@dabu Well making an idol of anything worldly is basically Paganism, making it as impossible to avoid as any of the other stuff I'm supposed to. As to Christmas and Easter being Pagan celebrations, that depends on what you're celebrating on those days: the ACTUAL events those days are meant to represent, or the commercial ones. I personally find both holidays rather dull and don't really celebrate either one. Christmas is good for having an arbitrary reason to ask for money though.
@purplecowadoom Now about this DLC: lousy, terribly short gameplay, and if Gabriel would've called for help from the God whom he supposedly believed in at any point in the main game or in this he'd have never had a need to go vampire on anybody. This is why Christianity makes a bad backbone for most plots. Done correctly, it's a thriller killer. Done incorrectly, it's not Christianity. Still usually love Castlevania games, but this one ridiculous point is always present.
@purplecowadoom [spoilers] It makes sense though that Gabriel goes vampire. He did it all to get his wife back, and, oops, didn't you get the memo? You can't do that. I figured it was his inward bitterness at that fact that turned him into Dracula. Also, the plot of this game doesn't accurately measure Christianity. There isn't a "balance" to tip in God's favor, nor is God's influence ever "thin and threadbare". God is to Satan as a human to an ant, and read Psalm 119 for the second part.
@purplecowadoom If this wasn't a video game, I wouldn't have even been able to tell that it didn't fit in the bible. Gabriel is one of the best modern day Christ-figures I've seen. He becomes a vampire in order to restore communion between God and man. It's a reformulation of the Christus Victor theory. Take another look at this and see if you agree.
@gambleor There are a number of instances throughout the game and its dlc that aren't Christian. The obvious bit is something that's relatively small and has been a staple of the series from the get go (so I usually ignore it). That is that you can't fight demons with human-made/"purified" weapons, in spirit form they're intangible and when they possess something they exhibit superhuman abilities unmatched by anyone save for God or his angels.
@purplecowadoom Another point is that in the game, the Lords of Shadow leave their evil sides on Earth while their good sides go to Heaven. I don't claim to how going to Heaven is really supposed to work, but that ain't it. Then there's the bit about pagan gods being around first and God kicking them out of power, which I'd say explains it's own anti-Christian ideas. Then there's the part were Gabriel has to fight what appears to be the sum total of Hell without any help from God at all...
@purplecowadoom As far as the dlc goes, at that point Gabriel has cut all ties with God he was capable of cutting without flat-out selling his soul, but he still could've turned it around. Unfortunately, he decides to go the stupid route and let Laura convince him that he can only kill "the ultimate evil" (wasn't that reserved for Satan?) by...wait for it...becoming a being of evil himself. Huh. Explain to me how that is more effective than a holy being defeating evil.
@purplecowadoom Though you're right about this, and really any game, not being a comprehensive guide to Christianity, I think that you're allowing yourself to be moved against that approach because you're not looking at the larger picture. Gabriel, whether he becomes evil or not, only enters into that state in self-forgetting service to God and man - a heavily Christian value. What happens to him is really no different than what we see happening to any of the Kings of Israel in the Bible.
@gambleor Yes, Gabriel never seems to do things he's supposed to, just like the Kings of Israel a lot of the time, but my points are still valid. My viewpoint is that any form of media that denies or twists Christianity to validate its plot is anti-Christian. This game does the latter, which (to me) is actually worse than just denying it. Anyway, the point is that I enjoyed the gameplay, I just wish it wasn't tagged to a story I have so many problems with. I guess I'm done now.
@purplecowadoom You're right to an extent, but it's not meant to construe the Christian faith. It's primarily meant to entertain its targeted consumer base. The fact that the central figure is a Christian struggling with a pagan environment enveloped by a twisted Christianity is no different whatsoever than what we see in the stories of the Israelite Kings and their struggles with their own idolatries. This game is def not anti-Christian. Just the opp. Properly used, it can be very Christian.
Gabriel Belmont's story is one of the saddest and messed up stories i've ever seen, i actually got pissed at all the other fairy tales and movies that somehow have a happy ending but i like that this story shows you the reality that no matter how good anyone's intentions are, some people will always get the short end of the stick, things don't always end up neatly wrapped in a bow and good always triumphs with no casualties, the only things i saw that are similar is Angel The Series & Batman
@bahl82 its called Belmonts Theme, you can get it if you buy the special edition of the game on PS3 or Xbox 360, depends on the one you get but you still get the same soundtrack.
@TheSavageOne89 i dunno, capcom charges far more for content like costumes, thats locked on the disc! where as this DLC was made AFTER the game was released, and the game was already at a very decent length and well worth the money.
personally im happy to pay it cause i love to support this games continuation.
@galti111 but he becomes an angel to do it, hes in that circle thing thats a gate way to god, it says you become an angel hense the infinite trigger thing forgot what its called.
@randomer1432 True. Satans description in the enemies list does say that he wasn't strong enough to defeat Gods vassal (Gabe) while still attached to the earthly plane...
Still haven't played this add-on yet! It was supposed to come out on the European and British PS stores today (30/03) but it never materialized. Pfft!
"God Doesn't love you! He let your beloved DIE!" fkin epic game...
Can't believe I get to play with Gabriel again in some fresh new story. And so soon. I'm thinking this will be the last time. I seriously doubt you will play as Gabriel again in the sequel.
Hello guys i want to tell anyone about the destiny of Gabriel , he will become the Dracula he will chose the dark side influenced by Lord of Necromancer and will be transformed by Laura and after he will get the name of vampire from LOI from play station 2 and then he will become Dracula...
@MrTheguywithalife Play the game for the 3d classicvania goodness it's meant to be, but never for a second go trying to tell people ANY of these games embrace Christianity or even some form of religion in general. If there's one thing the Castlevania series has done consistently besides excellent gameplay, it's that it's served as one of the highest forms of blasphemy for Christianity and any other religion it's ever "represented." The only "religion" it does "justice" is Paganism.
So it was Laura who turned Gabriel into a vampire... I've always replayed the battle with Carmilla and looked at every possibility where she could have "infected" Gabriel but...this explains a lot xD
I find it funny that my theory was debunked in the opening cutscene of the DLC. >_>
New theory! There's another force behind the Forgotten One. Perhaps a more human-sized boss battle after the inevitable titan battle with the Forgotten One?
I don't think so. I think the forgotten one is what we get. I guess Resurrection focuses more on Gabriels struggle with the darkness within him and his final act as a human before he turns into Dracula.
@shadowthehedgehog181 Da vinci will probably give you 2 hours of missions (maybe less) and some useless multiplayer skins. I bet this DLC will give you 5 hours of gameplay + an awesome story.
i love the history of this game
GABOXR1 2 months ago
The Final Battle will be drawn between the last of the Belmont's against The Forgotten One.
Azieru82 3 months ago
how do we get the dlc ??
Emiliouus 8 months ago
bought both of them, loved it! bring on the sequal konami!
randomer1432 8 months ago
@dabu Well making an idol of anything worldly is basically Paganism, making it as impossible to avoid as any of the other stuff I'm supposed to. As to Christmas and Easter being Pagan celebrations, that depends on what you're celebrating on those days: the ACTUAL events those days are meant to represent, or the commercial ones. I personally find both holidays rather dull and don't really celebrate either one. Christmas is good for having an arbitrary reason to ask for money though.
purplecowadoom 9 months ago
Not that I should desire money...
purplecowadoom 9 months ago
@dabu Not sure which book you've been reading but it isn't the Bible. Paganism is only ever condemned in Christianity.
purplecowadoom 9 months ago
@purplecowadoom Now about this DLC: lousy, terribly short gameplay, and if Gabriel would've called for help from the God whom he supposedly believed in at any point in the main game or in this he'd have never had a need to go vampire on anybody. This is why Christianity makes a bad backbone for most plots. Done correctly, it's a thriller killer. Done incorrectly, it's not Christianity. Still usually love Castlevania games, but this one ridiculous point is always present.
purplecowadoom 9 months ago 2
@purplecowadoom [spoilers] It makes sense though that Gabriel goes vampire. He did it all to get his wife back, and, oops, didn't you get the memo? You can't do that. I figured it was his inward bitterness at that fact that turned him into Dracula. Also, the plot of this game doesn't accurately measure Christianity. There isn't a "balance" to tip in God's favor, nor is God's influence ever "thin and threadbare". God is to Satan as a human to an ant, and read Psalm 119 for the second part.
ColeOfCentauri 9 months ago
@purplecowadoom If this wasn't a video game, I wouldn't have even been able to tell that it didn't fit in the bible. Gabriel is one of the best modern day Christ-figures I've seen. He becomes a vampire in order to restore communion between God and man. It's a reformulation of the Christus Victor theory. Take another look at this and see if you agree.
gambleor 8 months ago
@gambleor There are a number of instances throughout the game and its dlc that aren't Christian. The obvious bit is something that's relatively small and has been a staple of the series from the get go (so I usually ignore it). That is that you can't fight demons with human-made/"purified" weapons, in spirit form they're intangible and when they possess something they exhibit superhuman abilities unmatched by anyone save for God or his angels.
purplecowadoom 8 months ago
@purplecowadoom Another point is that in the game, the Lords of Shadow leave their evil sides on Earth while their good sides go to Heaven. I don't claim to how going to Heaven is really supposed to work, but that ain't it. Then there's the bit about pagan gods being around first and God kicking them out of power, which I'd say explains it's own anti-Christian ideas. Then there's the part were Gabriel has to fight what appears to be the sum total of Hell without any help from God at all...
purplecowadoom 8 months ago
@purplecowadoom As far as the dlc goes, at that point Gabriel has cut all ties with God he was capable of cutting without flat-out selling his soul, but he still could've turned it around. Unfortunately, he decides to go the stupid route and let Laura convince him that he can only kill "the ultimate evil" (wasn't that reserved for Satan?) by...wait for it...becoming a being of evil himself. Huh. Explain to me how that is more effective than a holy being defeating evil.
purplecowadoom 8 months ago
@purplecowadoom Though you're right about this, and really any game, not being a comprehensive guide to Christianity, I think that you're allowing yourself to be moved against that approach because you're not looking at the larger picture. Gabriel, whether he becomes evil or not, only enters into that state in self-forgetting service to God and man - a heavily Christian value. What happens to him is really no different than what we see happening to any of the Kings of Israel in the Bible.
gambleor 8 months ago
@gambleor Yes, Gabriel never seems to do things he's supposed to, just like the Kings of Israel a lot of the time, but my points are still valid. My viewpoint is that any form of media that denies or twists Christianity to validate its plot is anti-Christian. This game does the latter, which (to me) is actually worse than just denying it. Anyway, the point is that I enjoyed the gameplay, I just wish it wasn't tagged to a story I have so many problems with. I guess I'm done now.
purplecowadoom 8 months ago
@purplecowadoom You're right to an extent, but it's not meant to construe the Christian faith. It's primarily meant to entertain its targeted consumer base. The fact that the central figure is a Christian struggling with a pagan environment enveloped by a twisted Christianity is no different whatsoever than what we see in the stories of the Israelite Kings and their struggles with their own idolatries. This game is def not anti-Christian. Just the opp. Properly used, it can be very Christian.
gambleor 8 months ago
name music??
sierro100 10 months ago
@sierro100 Belmont's Theme
bleach655 9 months ago
anyone heard anything about resurrection? The wait is too long..
YourePrettyGoood 10 months ago
i wish they made 2d castlevania with 7 GB size of the game , i wonder how big castle with that size?
renefak 10 months ago
game is among the best in fantasy
TriforcePlayer2 10 months ago
I love this game
DavKellar 10 months ago
Gabriel Belmont's story is one of the saddest and messed up stories i've ever seen, i actually got pissed at all the other fairy tales and movies that somehow have a happy ending but i like that this story shows you the reality that no matter how good anyone's intentions are, some people will always get the short end of the stick, things don't always end up neatly wrapped in a bow and good always triumphs with no casualties, the only things i saw that are similar is Angel The Series & Batman
2Good2BeTrue45 10 months ago 3
can somebody please tel me the name of this song/track please i go crazy on it^^
bahl82 10 months ago
@bahl82 its called Belmonts Theme, you can get it if you buy the special edition of the game on PS3 or Xbox 360, depends on the one you get but you still get the same soundtrack.
HaseoX13 10 months ago
Ugh please come soon. I read its supposed to come out this week. The days are dragging buy though -.- Just beat it again so im ready to go.
khaddict7 10 months ago
We haven't got this fucking DLC yet due to an XBL problem that has nothing to do with PS3.
This DLC is cursed........
Bellamyfanboy 10 months ago
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nignogfrogdog 11 months ago
so that's how Gabriele became Dracu.....la
H770907 11 months ago
Sweet! At least a trailer! Ha im stoked!!
Kapo465 11 months ago
yo is it me or did they over price this DLC ??? i mean $10 bucks 4 a extra short chapter seems to much 4 me. $5 would have been a fare price.
TheSavageOne89 11 months ago
@TheSavageOne89 i dunno, capcom charges far more for content like costumes, thats locked on the disc! where as this DLC was made AFTER the game was released, and the game was already at a very decent length and well worth the money.
personally im happy to pay it cause i love to support this games continuation.
randomer1432 11 months ago
its legionnnnnnnnn
jk :P
Squeezitgirdle 11 months ago
is the dlc for ps3 too?
stevewins914 11 months ago
I finished the DLC pack, now I want Resurrection so bad!
DevilRebellion 11 months ago
Gabriel kicked Satans ass! What demon will stand against him?!
galti111 11 months ago
@galti111 but he becomes an angel to do it, hes in that circle thing thats a gate way to god, it says you become an angel hense the infinite trigger thing forgot what its called.
randomer1432 11 months ago
@randomer1432 True. Satans description in the enemies list does say that he wasn't strong enough to defeat Gods vassal (Gabe) while still attached to the earthly plane...
Still haven't played this add-on yet! It was supposed to come out on the European and British PS stores today (30/03) but it never materialized. Pfft!
galti111 11 months ago
RELIGION!
crimson340 11 months ago
"God Doesn't love you! He let your beloved DIE!" fkin epic game...
Can't believe I get to play with Gabriel again in some fresh new story. And so soon. I'm thinking this will be the last time. I seriously doubt you will play as Gabriel again in the sequel.
YourePrettyGoood 11 months ago
@YourePrettyGoood lets hope your wrong about that
xAfterDark 11 months ago
My god... this music gets me sooooo pumped!
xAfterDark 11 months ago
I fucking LOVE this game! ^.^
Xell9999 11 months ago
my bet is gabriel will do a faustian bargain
MrAu009 11 months ago
Hello guys i want to tell anyone about the destiny of Gabriel , he will become the Dracula he will chose the dark side influenced by Lord of Necromancer and will be transformed by Laura and after he will get the name of vampire from LOI from play station 2 and then he will become Dracula...
claudiuboy83 11 months ago
I want it!
MrNightie 11 months ago
When will game developers realize people only want to see the gameplay...
helgenx 11 months ago
@helgenx Really? Cause I rather enjoyed this trailer actually.
mattismen 11 months ago
@helgenx Wrong, just as much people play for the story, and enjoy these little previews as a build-up to when the gameplay comes out
MurakamiTenshi 11 months ago
I cannot wait anymore
marksouzacosta 11 months ago
fucking amazing dlc for a fucking amazing game!!!
DarthRoy1292 11 months ago
Is Gabriel holding a flower on his right hand at 0:42?
tjjavier 11 months ago
"You've unleashed a greater evil...". An evil, greater than 3 Lords of shadow???? What could it be??? Death???
poppydoc 11 months ago
@poppydoc Zobek = Death
marksouzacosta 11 months ago
why are people talking about assassins creed? its the exact opposite of this game, this game EMBRACES religion!!!
MrTheguywithalife 11 months ago
@MrTheguywithalife Play the game for the 3d classicvania goodness it's meant to be, but never for a second go trying to tell people ANY of these games embrace Christianity or even some form of religion in general. If there's one thing the Castlevania series has done consistently besides excellent gameplay, it's that it's served as one of the highest forms of blasphemy for Christianity and any other religion it's ever "represented." The only "religion" it does "justice" is Paganism.
purplecowadoom 11 months ago
So it was Laura who turned Gabriel into a vampire... I've always replayed the battle with Carmilla and looked at every possibility where she could have "infected" Gabriel but...this explains a lot xD
genparksnooze 11 months ago
the music gave me goosebumps. EPIC all around!
xAfterDark 11 months ago
was hoping for some gameplay footage but hell anything is better then nothing,I have never been so excited about DLC before until this was announced
OniKitsuneX4 11 months ago
A demon worse than the Lords of Shadow?
I'm tempted to think something like Galamoth.
Cypher0120 11 months ago 17
@Cypher0120 Uh why you didn't think about the REAL Dracula? lol
HARDCOREBuLL117Onix 11 months ago
@HARDCOREBuLL117Onix
Because Gabriel isn't Dracula yet.
Cypher0120 11 months ago
@Cypher0120 I agree. He's huge, extremely powerful and controls time, which may or may not have to do with the time machine in Reverie.
REmaster96 11 months ago
@Cypher0120 Its the Forgotten One
NWii 10 months ago
@NWii
I find it funny that my theory was debunked in the opening cutscene of the DLC. >_>
New theory! There's another force behind the Forgotten One. Perhaps a more human-sized boss battle after the inevitable titan battle with the Forgotten One?
Cypher0120 10 months ago
@Cypher0120
I don't think so. I think the forgotten one is what we get. I guess Resurrection focuses more on Gabriels struggle with the darkness within him and his final act as a human before he turns into Dracula.
NWii 10 months ago
A demon worse than the Lords of Shadow...?
I'm tempted to think something like Galamoth...
Cypher0120 11 months ago
I guess Da Vinci's disappearance is going to have to wait...
shadowthehedgehog181 11 months ago
@shadowthehedgehog181 Da vinci will probably give you 2 hours of missions (maybe less) and some useless multiplayer skins. I bet this DLC will give you 5 hours of gameplay + an awesome story.
ingroepa 11 months ago 7