My Canadian grandfather E. G. had fought in the second world war in Ortona...Now I know why he was so sad and never wanted to talk about the war when I was a little girl when our rememberance day and in school we were to find stories out from grandparents...he would never talk about the war and I remember him only saying men could not keep up, they were so exhusted, God rest his soul he passed away over 12 years ago.
Who the fuck Dislikes this?? WTF is wrong with you!! i outta beat the shit out of you ppl for Disliking this Video SOBS! our Grand Fathers fought and some died for our freedom! and freedom for others!
My great-uncle fought at Ortona, 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment. He died a few years ago, and I only heard him talk about it once. All he told me was that it was like "Canada's Stalingrad." now I know why.
it's an easy answer that's been known since they decided to attack ortona (which is why they did). it was a key port city on the east of italy. one of the few that had access to deep water. If the allies had Ortona they would be able to land allied ships there and bring supplies. That's the easy answer.. hah. not mysterious at all.
The Russians used mouse-holing at stalingrad, to move around without being seen by the germans, but they were using it more defensively, than offensively, as the Canadians at Ortona. After stalingrad it was a common tactic used by both russians and germans in urban warfare.
The standard technique was to go from top to bottom, once in a set of connecting houses, clearing each house as you went. Very, very dangerous work and casualties were always extreme to both sides.
the Canadians were the first western allies to use 'mouse-holing' (ie going through walls to enter a building or room, rather than using a door or window) but they didn't invent the technique, as is often told.
Mouse-holing dates back over 100 years and had been used in various conflicts where urban warfare took place. The Canadians may have re-invented it, as it really isn't all that hard to come up with...sort of common sense.
Served with the Seaforth Highlanders in the 80's, use to help the original Quartermaster from Ortona to organize the annual dinner in the Officers Mess, sat and ate with Veterans from Ortona, the bell from the church of Ortona is in the mess....
I believe it was this battle where the Canadian infantry invented the tactic called Rat holing, One German prisoner was later heard to have said it caused them the town and he had wished they thought of it in Stalingrad.
Yes it is. Indeed Ortona is where the western Allies learned how to fight in an urban environment. Canadian veterans of the battle were sent to battle schools in England following the battle where they instructed pupils from all the Allied units that would take part in the invasion of Normandy. Trial and error - many costly mistakes but initiative once again won the day for the Canadians.
The Famous 1st Fallschirmjager Divison fought as brave as the Canadian Divisons fighting in Ortona many soldiers lied about there age to get in the Army cause they thought war was an adventure
many of them 16, 17
I wonder if they teach this in there history class in Italy? the battle of Ortona
cause they don't teach it in mine and I saw this Movie and now I can see why
these soldiers on both sides fought and gave everything for each other.. .
Fallschirmjager, the famous green berets? He means green devils, they never wore berets. I'm very interested in watching this, as I'm very interested in finding out more about the battle of ortona. Still, little mistakes like that make me wonder as to the accuracy of the information.
The historical research has been extremely accurate. 35mm footage has been restored in full HD. This documentary has been nominated at 2009 Banff World Television Awards in the category "History and Biography programs".
@manfred898 They did. Like the Panzers for a time wore pink piping on their berets, the German paras wore Green. After a few years, berets were informally discontinued.
Those bagpipes give me chills and that tombstone made me tear up. Sleep on dear son They battle has been won "Until We Meet Again" My Great Uncle drove tank here. He had his fingers shot off after he was exited his immobilized tank. He got them patched up and carried on the rest of the battle. Just amazing the struggles that both sides went through. R.I.P Dave and to those fallen Canadians and Germans.
Actually the Canadians blew the Church tower because the Germans were using it as an observation post for Artillery (I know this because I have seen the official report). The Loyal Edmonton Regiment blew up two houses on the 26th of Dec burying over 50 Germans in retaliation for the Germans setting charges in a house a burying Canadian Soldiers that day(one of the soldiers survived and was buried for 3 days) Its all in the war diaries at the Library and Archives of Canada.
damn i am Canadian and it just pisses me off that theirs like no video or movies about the Canadians in ww2 and they don't even talk about it on TV too, that sucks my uncle fight in France and we did some pretty good stuff in the war!!!
My grandpa was also in Three Rivers...I have all his 'letters home. Seems the boys really missed their 'maple syrup'...that was a big request around the time of Ortono. He said that most Italian towns were evacuated before the tanks rolled in and there was little interaction with the Italians until they reached Italy.
Does anyone no where I can find this documentary. I am an M.A Student doing my thesis on the Interactions between Canadian and Italians during and after the Battle of Ortona and would love to check it out
what a fucking christmas my dear old grandpa.the scars these old canuckers have on there old beaten bodies and inside there deepest dreams. THE MAPLE LEAF FOREVER.
Grazie, in realtà si tratta di un documentario ad alto budget che andrà in onda su Rete 4 prossimamente, prodotto da SD Cinematografica, per la regia di Fabio Toncelli.
La rete ci ha informato che probabilmente andrà in onda questo autunno, ma non disponiamo ancora della data di messa in onda ufficiale... Spero di averla presto...
Buongiorno. Con molto piacere le comunico che il documentario "Ortona 1943: un Natale di sangue" andrà in onda au RETE 4 il 20 dicembre 2009 alle ore 14:00.
You will be able to buy the DVD in English or Italian, but it will be also aired on some of the most important broadcasters all around the world. Please let us know your country of origin to send you further details.
You will find the answers to this question i our documentary "Ortona 1943: a bloody Christmas". We are selling this documentary to the most important broadcasters all around the world. Please let us know you country of origin to receive further information about the channel in which it will be aired.
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My Canadian grandfather E. G. had fought in the second world war in Ortona...Now I know why he was so sad and never wanted to talk about the war when I was a little girl when our rememberance day and in school we were to find stories out from grandparents...he would never talk about the war and I remember him only saying men could not keep up, they were so exhusted, God rest his soul he passed away over 12 years ago.
asherahmetisladysk 1 week ago
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asherahmetisladysk 1 week ago
How can we buy it in Canada ?
The11Mat 1 month ago
Who the fuck Dislikes this?? WTF is wrong with you!! i outta beat the shit out of you ppl for Disliking this Video SOBS! our Grand Fathers fought and some died for our freedom! and freedom for others!
Vestolord 3 months ago
Si, è disponibile in dvd distribuito da Medusa oppure acquistabile sul nostro sito sdcinematografica.it
sdcinematografica 3 months ago
C'e' una versione in italiano di questo documentario?
EMYMAXIMUS 3 months ago
My great-uncle fought at Ortona, 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment. He died a few years ago, and I only heard him talk about it once. All he told me was that it was like "Canada's Stalingrad." now I know why.
Litterboxer529 8 months ago
where do i find the whole video?
kamokid36 9 months ago
The documentary has been produced with the help of the Historical consultant Marco Patricelli that wrote a book on this battle published by UTET.
We strongly suggest to screen the whole documentary to understand better the "mystery" behind the battle.
Roberto Dall'Angelo - producer of the documentary
sdcinematografica 11 months ago
and did that german soldier just do a british salute?
raedenjay 11 months ago
the "information" in this video is so very very wrong.
raedenjay 11 months ago
it's an easy answer that's been known since they decided to attack ortona (which is why they did). it was a key port city on the east of italy. one of the few that had access to deep water. If the allies had Ortona they would be able to land allied ships there and bring supplies. That's the easy answer.. hah. not mysterious at all.
raedenjay 11 months ago
The Russians used mouse-holing at stalingrad, to move around without being seen by the germans, but they were using it more defensively, than offensively, as the Canadians at Ortona. After stalingrad it was a common tactic used by both russians and germans in urban warfare.
The standard technique was to go from top to bottom, once in a set of connecting houses, clearing each house as you went. Very, very dangerous work and casualties were always extreme to both sides.
aferguson1960 1 year ago
the Canadians were the first western allies to use 'mouse-holing' (ie going through walls to enter a building or room, rather than using a door or window) but they didn't invent the technique, as is often told.
Mouse-holing dates back over 100 years and had been used in various conflicts where urban warfare took place. The Canadians may have re-invented it, as it really isn't all that hard to come up with...sort of common sense.
aferguson1960 1 year ago
Served with the Seaforth Highlanders in the 80's, use to help the original Quartermaster from Ortona to organize the annual dinner in the Officers Mess, sat and ate with Veterans from Ortona, the bell from the church of Ortona is in the mess....
devcelt 1 year ago
does anyone have the link to this movie cuz i can not get that site to work
tenyardrambo 1 year ago
I believe it was this battle where the Canadian infantry invented the tactic called Rat holing, One German prisoner was later heard to have said it caused them the town and he had wished they thought of it in Stalingrad.
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
@MegaWolfgang
Yes it is. Indeed Ortona is where the western Allies learned how to fight in an urban environment. Canadian veterans of the battle were sent to battle schools in England following the battle where they instructed pupils from all the Allied units that would take part in the invasion of Normandy. Trial and error - many costly mistakes but initiative once again won the day for the Canadians.
Number7smokesForEver 1 year ago
@MegaWolfgang
Close my friend,
It was called "mouse holing".
KyoNingyo 1 year ago
Hey I've been trying to find out how to join so I can watch this but I still don't know how. Can you help please?
paladin12122 1 year ago
I would like to view the documentary online but I need a log in? How do I get one?
Waycool1 2 years ago
The Famous 1st Fallschirmjager Divison fought as brave as the Canadian Divisons fighting in Ortona many soldiers lied about there age to get in the Army cause they thought war was an adventure
many of them 16, 17
I wonder if they teach this in there history class in Italy? the battle of Ortona
cause they don't teach it in mine and I saw this Movie and now I can see why
these soldiers on both sides fought and gave everything for each other.. .
but for what cause?
RazorCell7 2 years ago
I was born in Ortona Aug.19/1946. At the age
of 22 I came to Canada. Every time I see this
movie I cry. Among the 1300 civilian that lost
their life none of my family got hurt. Not the same for many others. As young boys we played among the ruins. I will never forget. Cellini
tonycellini 2 years ago
feb. 1 1999 german and canadian vets from the battle of ortona reconciled in the town of ortona
17PEI17 2 years ago
a big greeting from Ortona to all family members of soldiers dead in our town because that absurd war.
can their rest in peace
tribe76 2 years ago
Fallschirmjager, the famous green berets? He means green devils, they never wore berets. I'm very interested in watching this, as I'm very interested in finding out more about the battle of ortona. Still, little mistakes like that make me wonder as to the accuracy of the information.
manfred898 2 years ago
The historical research has been extremely accurate. 35mm footage has been restored in full HD. This documentary has been nominated at 2009 Banff World Television Awards in the category "History and Biography programs".
sdcinematografica 2 years ago
@manfred898 They did. Like the Panzers for a time wore pink piping on their berets, the German paras wore Green. After a few years, berets were informally discontinued.
LongliveSnak2e 10 months ago
12TH Canadian armoured regiment..
EnglishMut 2 years ago
Those bagpipes give me chills and that tombstone made me tear up. Sleep on dear son They battle has been won "Until We Meet Again" My Great Uncle drove tank here. He had his fingers shot off after he was exited his immobilized tank. He got them patched up and carried on the rest of the battle. Just amazing the struggles that both sides went through. R.I.P Dave and to those fallen Canadians and Germans.
elmntx32 3 years ago 4
yes those headstones are still in Ortona 3km from the city centre in an area called San Donato
zdc70 3 years ago
Actually the Canadians blew the Church tower because the Germans were using it as an observation post for Artillery (I know this because I have seen the official report). The Loyal Edmonton Regiment blew up two houses on the 26th of Dec burying over 50 Germans in retaliation for the Germans setting charges in a house a burying Canadian Soldiers that day(one of the soldiers survived and was buried for 3 days) Its all in the war diaries at the Library and Archives of Canada.
zdc70 3 years ago
are those canadian headstones still in ortona?
CanadaRocker11 3 years ago 3
@CanadaRocker11 yes on the outskirts
tenyardrambo 1 year ago
@CanadaRocker11 Yes
russfromdodge 6 months ago
according to wikipedia, the canadians blew the tower in retaliaton for the germans blowing up a house with a bunch of canadians in it
CanadaRocker11 3 years ago 2
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damn right man!!
Vestolord 3 years ago
that is true. Those bastard blew up a house full of canadian Loyal Edmonton Regiment soldiers.
rumrich 3 years ago
damn i am Canadian and it just pisses me off that theirs like no video or movies about the Canadians in ww2 and they don't even talk about it on TV too, that sucks my uncle fight in France and we did some pretty good stuff in the war!!!
Vestolord 3 years ago
i no, we liberated holland and made a shit load of tanks for britain
CanadaRocker11 3 years ago
yeah man we made the m1 rifle for the amercains!!
Vestolord 3 years ago
This movie was aired on TLC.
My grandpa was also in Three Rivers...I have all his 'letters home. Seems the boys really missed their 'maple syrup'...that was a big request around the time of Ortono. He said that most Italian towns were evacuated before the tanks rolled in and there was little interaction with the Italians until they reached Italy.
transfattyacid13 3 years ago
Woops...until they reached Rome.
transfattyacid13 3 years ago
Does anyone no where I can find this documentary. I am an M.A Student doing my thesis on the Interactions between Canadian and Italians during and after the Battle of Ortona and would love to check it out
zdc70 3 years ago
sweet stuff dude
Vestolord 3 years ago
trois riviers 12th Canadian Armoured Regiment
what a fucking christmas my dear old grandpa.the scars these old canuckers have on there old beaten bodies and inside there deepest dreams. THE MAPLE LEAF FOREVER.
EnglishMut 3 years ago
bello suggestivo, rievocazione storica!
birretta85 3 years ago
Grazie, in realtà si tratta di un documentario ad alto budget che andrà in onda su Rete 4 prossimamente, prodotto da SD Cinematografica, per la regia di Fabio Toncelli.
astertrip 3 years ago
lo seguirò con molto interesse! grazie
birretta85 3 years ago
ma poi è andato in onda il programma
birretta85 3 years ago
fammi sapere però quando sarà in onda! :'D
birretta85 3 years ago
La rete ci ha informato che probabilmente andrà in onda questo autunno, ma non disponiamo ancora della data di messa in onda ufficiale... Spero di averla presto...
sdcinematografica 2 years ago
appena sapete qualcosa potreste dirlo? grazie
efsmc 2 years ago
Buongiorno. Con molto piacere le comunico che il documentario "Ortona 1943: un Natale di sangue" andrà in onda au RETE 4 il 20 dicembre 2009 alle ore 14:00.
sdcinematografica 2 years ago
Where would I be able to find this program?
Number7smokesForEver 3 years ago
i want to know to so damn hard to find any thing on ortona on here
newfiekingpin 3 years ago
You will be able to buy the DVD in English or Italian, but it will be also aired on some of the most important broadcasters all around the world. Please let us know your country of origin to send you further details.
astertrip 3 years ago
I am from Canada.
Number7smokesForEver 3 years ago
why? it was a case of national pretige Canadians and germans on ground owned by neither competed for the title
Ronneh117 3 years ago
You will find the answers to this question i our documentary "Ortona 1943: a bloody Christmas". We are selling this documentary to the most important broadcasters all around the world. Please let us know you country of origin to receive further information about the channel in which it will be aired.
astertrip 3 years ago
bellissimo questo video!
antisbarbine 3 years ago
Grazie. Si tratta solo di un trailer di un nostro documentario che andrà in onda su Mediaset (rete 4) prossimamente.
astertrip 3 years ago