If you live in the Los Angeles area and want to learn these processes, contact Trry Price at Cerritos College. He teaches Composite Fabrication, along with several other classes that have to do with composites.
and they are actually siphoning in the resin making a resin rich part. This part may call for that but usually in my experience (which isn't much just a college student) you allow the vacuum to do the work pulling the resin in.
I don't know much about Soric, but it obviously is very strong. If their vacuum is 29.7" Hg (mercury) which is equal to 14.7" pressure per square inch. With at 30" by 50" panel that makes for 22050 lbs of pressure on that panel.
A good estimate of resin is, weigh your material let say 400g then get 20% more than 400g of resin + your hardener. The laminate should only let in around a 60-65% fiber to 40-35% resin ratio.
The video says you guys are in Vancouver. B.C. I'm a prosthetic technician doing some research on materials and systems for laminating and would love to chat and visit you facility. Thanks for responding. Daryl.
How did you set up your inlet port to not stick to your panel and allow good resin flow to the center of the panel. Did you use perforated peel ply. I'm going to do a panel that is infused from the center out and I've only done infusion a couple times with a steering wheel mold where I pulled the resin across the part. Any tips/info would be great.
i guess you figured out after pooring the first batch of resin that ALL those fiber layers were thick and they sucked up all your fluid... FAST!!!! good job on the video
is okay to add resin within that time frame? just curious
New to carbon too, and I have a question regarding this.
If you used this resin infusion method, are the 7 layers stuck together with resin or glue before they are bagged? Also, if this was used in a plug, with curves etc, would you use glue/resin, then infuse it via the vacuum pump?
No glue was used on this pannel. For tricky curves and odd shapes a small amount of spray adhesive can be used being carful not to get it on the mold surface.
We use a CNC ruter table and a 1/4 inch carbide cutter. A fine toothed blade on a jigsaw will also work and the the fur strand can be sanded smooth after.
There are far better ways of infusion than this, materials look fine but very half arsed approach to resin flow, also pouring resin into the infusion bucket is madness running the risk of porosity in the panel, Also having the bucket higher than the laminate you also run the risk of syphoning the resin into the part resultig in a higher fibre to resin ratio.
@Nickigoe Im new to all of this but i dont get how he is risking syphoning the resin.. isnt the point to suck the resin into the part at a certain vacuum. and he has sides that lets a little bit of excess resin flow to? so can u explain to me please. thanks
Very cool video. Bill, how do you join the bulkhead part that you have produced, and say, the side of the fuselage?? With some type of adhesive?? I am starting a large aircraft project, and am interested in the Vacuum Infusion method. This will be a very long project. I have started on the plug, and would like to know the methods that you are using. Thanks, Don
@blueberrybill --Awful long time since this was posted (btw- thank you), but I was wondering how the soric isn't crushed by the vacuum pressure. Also, how do you calculate the amount of resin needed? TY!
I don't know much about Soric, but it obviously is very strong. If their vacuum is 29.7" Hg (mercury) which is equal to 14.7" pressure per square inch. With at 30" by 50" panel that makes for 22050 lbs of pressure on that panel.
A good estimate of resin is, weigh your material let say 400g then get 20% more than 400g of resin + your hardener. The laminate should only let in around a 60-65% fiber to 40-35% resin ratio.
If you live in the Los Angeles area and want to learn these processes, contact Trry Price at Cerritos College. He teaches Composite Fabrication, along with several other classes that have to do with composites.
SirDoomTheGreat 1 week ago
isn't it more easy to put the vacuuminsert in the middle and injection the resin in the tube laying around the carbon fibre?
matthieutje65 2 months ago
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thdelporte 8 months ago
and they are actually siphoning in the resin making a resin rich part. This part may call for that but usually in my experience (which isn't much just a college student) you allow the vacuum to do the work pulling the resin in.
I hope this answers your questions.
ritter188 10 months ago
I don't know much about Soric, but it obviously is very strong. If their vacuum is 29.7" Hg (mercury) which is equal to 14.7" pressure per square inch. With at 30" by 50" panel that makes for 22050 lbs of pressure on that panel.
A good estimate of resin is, weigh your material let say 400g then get 20% more than 400g of resin + your hardener. The laminate should only let in around a 60-65% fiber to 40-35% resin ratio.
ritter188 10 months ago
I can do all this and make it super strong first time, its way to flopppy
hypobaric1 1 year ago
looks a bit floppy. at 4 liters of resin, should it be stronger at that weight? I imagine that a thicker honeycomb sandwich plate is much stiffer.
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
The video says you guys are in Vancouver. B.C. I'm a prosthetic technician doing some research on materials and systems for laminating and would love to chat and visit you facility. Thanks for responding. Daryl.
newarm 1 year ago
How did you set up your inlet port to not stick to your panel and allow good resin flow to the center of the panel. Did you use perforated peel ply. I'm going to do a panel that is infused from the center out and I've only done infusion a couple times with a steering wheel mold where I pulled the resin across the part. Any tips/info would be great.
dudesweetpro 1 year ago
i guess you figured out after pooring the first batch of resin that ALL those fiber layers were thick and they sucked up all your fluid... FAST!!!! good job on the video
is okay to add resin within that time frame? just curious
240SSONLY 1 year ago
4liter of resin seems like a lot for such a small thin panel. how much did the fiber weigh? and how much for the final panel?
DanFrederiksen 1 year ago
hi, i need a help!
i made some composite structure by resin infusion and it work well but after i have a problem ,,
when i spray 1-2 hands of clearcoat but i have the famous problem of pin hole in the surface!!
i try to degass the resin before to infuse. please, have you a solution for my problem? thank you very much
shkssj88 2 years ago
hi, i need a help!
i made some composite structure by resin infusion and it work well but after i have a problem ,,
when i spray 1-2 hands of clearcoat but i have the famous problem of pin hole in the surface!!
i try to degass the resin before to infuse. please, have you a solution for my problem? thank you very much
shkssj88 2 years ago
EINDHOVEN DE GEKSTEE
thempaulus 2 years ago
New to carbon too, and I have a question regarding this.
If you used this resin infusion method, are the 7 layers stuck together with resin or glue before they are bagged? Also, if this was used in a plug, with curves etc, would you use glue/resin, then infuse it via the vacuum pump?
Thanks, Andrew
atrampus 2 years ago
No glue was used on this pannel. For tricky curves and odd shapes a small amount of spray adhesive can be used being carful not to get it on the mold surface.
blueberrybill 2 years ago 2
We use a CNC ruter table and a 1/4 inch carbide cutter. A fine toothed blade on a jigsaw will also work and the the fur strand can be sanded smooth after.
blueberrybill 2 years ago
What would you use to cut that sheet? Sorry, new to carbon.
beaman220 2 years ago
There are far better ways of infusion than this, materials look fine but very half arsed approach to resin flow, also pouring resin into the infusion bucket is madness running the risk of porosity in the panel, Also having the bucket higher than the laminate you also run the risk of syphoning the resin into the part resultig in a higher fibre to resin ratio.
Nickigoe 2 years ago 2
@Nickigoe
"resultig in a higher fibre to resin ratio. "
Didn't you mean high resin to fibre ratio?
KombiPode 2 years ago
@Nickigoe Im new to all of this but i dont get how he is risking syphoning the resin.. isnt the point to suck the resin into the part at a certain vacuum. and he has sides that lets a little bit of excess resin flow to? so can u explain to me please. thanks
rps13sr 2 years ago
For me Composites are a very exciting science.
mjok2004 3 years ago
Very cool video. Bill, how do you join the bulkhead part that you have produced, and say, the side of the fuselage?? With some type of adhesive?? I am starting a large aircraft project, and am interested in the Vacuum Infusion method. This will be a very long project. I have started on the plug, and would like to know the methods that you are using. Thanks, Don
lincolnfixer 3 years ago
bleed release B is available from Air-tech.
It is used between your part and your felt.
blueberrybill 3 years ago
what material is the peel ply, i plan on using just felt for my first project.
zebinheimer 3 years ago
Thats cool is all peal ply that hard to pull off!
hewbolt 3 years ago
what exactly is sorq (im sure thats spelled wrong)?
superart01 3 years ago
Soric is a honeycomb core material for infusion. The honeycomb pattern is open with the hexagon blocks keeping the resin to a minimum.
blueberrybill 3 years ago
cool.
Is it possible to use traditional kevlar or aluminum honeycomb with infusion, or will the larger voids get filled with resin?
superart01 3 years ago
@blueberrybill question about soric what is the lightweight material in it that doesnt get wetted out ? the filler made of?
datzfast 1 year ago
@blueberrybill --Awful long time since this was posted (btw- thank you), but I was wondering how the soric isn't crushed by the vacuum pressure. Also, how do you calculate the amount of resin needed? TY!
CineGolem 11 months ago
@CineGolem
I don't know much about Soric, but it obviously is very strong. If their vacuum is 29.7" Hg (mercury) which is equal to 14.7" pressure per square inch. With at 30" by 50" panel that makes for 22050 lbs of pressure on that panel.
A good estimate of resin is, weigh your material let say 400g then get 20% more than 400g of resin + your hardener. The laminate should only let in around a 60-65% fiber to 40-35% resin ratio.
ritter188 10 months ago
SORIC is a flexible core for vacuum infusion and RTM-lite (producer: Lantor, The Netherlands)
Soric is a flexible core and resin flow medium in one. Sor the need for an external (disposable) flow medium is no longer there.
Infuse from the inside-out for a save and fast infusion.
deonno 3 years ago
I'd love to do this for a job. could make so much cool stuff :D
adamsonlinedirector 4 years ago
I have to pinch my self every day to make sure that I am not dreaming!
Haveing all the carbon and Kevlar to just peel off the roll, drums of resin, every kind of core material , It's is not work at all.
Thank you for your response.
Bill
blueberrybill 4 years ago
Wow. Pretty cool. HOw much force would be required to break this thing? :)
TrueSoreThumb 4 years ago