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  • how the hell did he die on first life....?

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR and TILINwho..

    first of all, its a game. suposed to be fun

    sec, A combo is any sequence of attacks that keeps the opponent in hitstun. he was able to dodge and block these hits. being able to know marth's his movement makes him easier. read the openents mind, or mindgame him =D

  • Def old version: i see wavedashe

  • I'm guessing this is a really early version of B+, there was hit-lag on Marth's tipper.

  • what happend in the begining?

  • this isn't Brawl+ change the title and stop giving Brawl+ a bad name with your codes.

    you wouldnt beleive how many ppl are driven away from trying the REAL Brawl+ because they see these videos.

  • Wow, learn to read that it's a video that's almost a year old.

    What's the point of hacking a game to make it better anyway.

  • WOW, lern2logic what difference does it make if its almost a year old, and the point of hacking a game to make it better, IS to make it better/more enjoyable/ect.

  • People learn how to utilize different codes as time goes on to make Brawl resemble Melee. The codes in this video are most likely older codes that don't work as well. I'm sure nowadays there are better codes to make Brawl+ better.

    If people enjoy Brawl+, that's cool. I don't. Sure it's fun, it's like Melee, but I'd rather just play Melee in that case. I'll play Brawl because it's Brawl, not Melee. If I want to play a game like Melee, then heck, I'll play Melee instead.

    kthx.

  • you fail to realize that most of the things in Brawl+ were in every smash game except brawl

    i'd say its more like Smash64

    the codes in this video were NEVER featured in an official codeset

    oh no! its begining to look like a competative game!!! the horror!!!

    it plays nothing like Melee does and still feels jsut like Brawl but better.

  • I guess it's like how Z-canceling was in SB64. I never played SB64 long enough to use Z-canceling much.

    I never said it was in an official code list. So you're saying the newer codes are? I never bothered to hack/mod my Wii so I don't know. Nor do I keep tabs on the Brawl+ community.

    If Brawl+ replaces Brawl completely in terms of competitive/tournament play, then I have no comment on that.

    I haven't played Brawl+ much, only once and that was more than a year ago. So things probably changed.

  • because brawl was made to stop people who were insanely good at melee to not be able to rape in brawl. In brawl you can air dodge right after being hit so its impossible to truly combo someone. Some stages would have been amazing if they didnt change like warios stage and pokemon stadium 2, brawl+ is what brawl should have been and its amazing.

  • Sure, Brawl+ might be amazing. but if it replaces Brawl in terms of competitive (tournament) play, then I'll lose faith in the Brawl community. I'm not saying Brawl+ isn't fun.

    Combos in Melee & Brawl consist of tech-reading/chasing, so of course there are still "combos" in Brawl. Look at all those "combo" videos out there.

    But yeah, Brawl+ this, Brawl+ that.

  • There are combo videos yes, but there arent any real combos, if your good yo ucan get out of any combo by air dodging, the hitlag doesnt last long enough in brawl, brawl+ is what they should have done the first time.

  • if by "any combo" you mean some combos then good post... if not, then i guess you haven't tried air dodging marth's Fthrow to Fsmash as link.... or his grab release combos on MK and wario....etc.

  • chaingrabbing is not a combo, and a combo has to be be 3 or more hits that you cant break out of, brawl has no true combos

  • since when did chain grabbing not count as a combo, since when does a combo need to be more then three hits, and as the even more obvious response, but equally as intelligent as your rebuttal... dancing blades combos up to 6 times depending on percentage.

  • chaingrabbing is simple! and pressing marths side b over and over and hitting someone that manytimes is automatic those are standard moves, they are not COMBOS. A combo is up-tilting someone to an up-air to a f-air, f-air d-air, or many different variations, these simple chaingrabbing bullshit and such arent combos!

  • so how many characters can you CG with IC's... how about the buffered F-throw CG. And with your Utilt combo, pikachu has a similar combo, u tilt>utilt> uair. And the marth combo wasn't supposed to be an "actual" combo but sense your reading comprehension is limited i'll just tell you that it was just an analogy for the inteligence of your argument.

  • dude just stop, there are no combo's in brawl end of story. ask any pro

  • There are some, key word some, combos in brawl. At least under the rest of the worlds definition, not your obscured definition. All I know is that when i grab a falco as marth at 0%, a am guaranteed 2 Fthrows to down air. Or when I air release MK I am guaranteed to get an F fair, or up smash a wario out of grab release, or u tilt to utilt fast fallers above me... not to mention FFFair combos into every one of marths moves at some percent on some characters. where u get this 3 hit BS is beyond me

  • A combo is any sequence of attacks that keeps the opponent in hitstun, the "combos" you named can be broken by air dodging at the right frame, try your combo on a level 9

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR wowowwowowow....CG is not a combo...FAIL

  • it most certainly is a combo, a combo is a series of unavoidable consecutive attacks. a CG is just that. And if you don't like chain grabs then fine... just use marth's FF up air to up air combo as an example.

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR coming from someone that dosnt play the game....I have never heard of ANYONE that plays smash call CG a combo....so again....FAIL

  • If you don't play the game just stfu your comments are nullified and your validity is eradicated. And he said himself that a combo is a sequence of attacks that keeps the opponent in hitstun. Name one moment during a chain grab where you come out of hitstun. The answer is never. As far as CG's being simple YOU fail. IC's chain grabs are WAY harder then doing a combo ESPECIALLY in brawl+. And in melee all you needed to know is how to hit R before hitting the ground. if you can't combo you fail

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR

    Like I said before...you obviously don't play the game or have played in any tournaments because if you have, NOBODY has ever said do the chaingrab combo....theres ones like ken combo which can be called that but wtf CG combo.....sorry...BIG FAIL.....for the 3rd time

  • dude i played for a while competitively in new york... venue was kings games. Granted I never placed high but thats because that was my first few tourneys I only went to bi-weeklies and i was up against playeers like Ninja link, ally, and I think one of them was NEO but im not sure (you can ask them i was the meh IC's who just learned how to CG the cast). and there are some combos in brawl... go to smashboards and figure it out for yourself. also, ken combo doesn't exist in brawl. so you FAIL

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR like i said...KEN COMBO was just an example i gave you as to what a combo might be...consecutive HITS not grabs.....so u FAIL at reading as well...dang....u just got comboed with FAILS....PWND!

  • now you fail even more for referring to a combo as consecutive hits, it just shows that you never actuallyplayed brawl to any degree of difficulty you poor lost melee fan boy. smashboards(.)com educate yourself before making another comment. also your l33t is feeble.

  • @TH3Z3R0H0UR

    there you are again...making assumptions without no evidence...I play brawl competitively still at local tournies and what not...I was never a big fan of melee...but brawl has no real good combos because there is no stun time and brawl plus does....I just keep comboing you with your FAILS...your gonna get KOed any minute now....0 to death combo son

  • @TILINwho Old comment, I know. But I couldn't stop from commenting on how stupid this argument was. lol

  • I'm glad someone else also agrees that trying to "fix" a game should not come at the expense of taking out its strategy. The way they turned Ganondorf into a Meta-knight without wings is atrocious. Most of the characters(especially the slow ones) have been made atrociously faster.

  • Ugh. I wish this guy would remove the Brawl+ tags from the video and title.

  • Why do that?

  • Because it's nothing like Brawl+ at all, and considering it's an old old video and people don't know how to look at the latest videos, people who don't know better think this is a recent version.

    They barely look at the date as well.

  • Thats where annotations come in ^^

  • Some people turns those off LOL.

  • erm... why?

  • Why not?

    I find them annoying really.

  • I wasn't referring to the annotations, I was referring to the Brawl+ tags. But you already answered that.

  • LOL they walk funny

  • the hell..you can wave dash?!?! O_O

  • you mean roll? or dash dance?

  • wave dash..don't you know what wave dash is?!? a person did it in the video..

  • lol blue marth was fail

  • Kizzu you are not realy good

    you need practice

    ryota you are exelent go ahead

  • Judging skill on 8-9 month old vids?

  • What Meta Said, look at the date boli.

  • wait wats going on??? how is there wave dashing and ken combos?!

  • the swimming parts were hilarious

  • Wooow.... I really need Brawl+.

    The website is a little confusing.

  • ok its bugging me now how the hell do you do the ken combo and that thing where youre still on the wall yet you can still spike

  • what the hell...do brawlers know this little nowadays? If you didn't know, Ken was the best smasher in his day at melee. I think he quit in 2007, but he attended a Brawl tournament in 2008 just for fun. Ken has never played Brawl except for that one tourney. He is now inactive.

    Why the hell do you think Kizzu did a Ken combo? Because it seemed like a good choice at the time and its a damn good combo.

  • 1. anyone can do the ken combo...theres no rule against it

    2. i dont think ken plays brawl+ o.o

    let alone brawl...

  • So glad you could see this was...oh, hey look how old this version is.

    Oh wait, this was one of the FIRST Brawl+ sets ever.

  • This is a 8-9 month old video when Brawl+ first released. Hitstun is less then Melee now.

    And I like a game with DI dependent combos and character balance instead of some BS camping game co-starring Meta Knight.

  • what u talking bout co-starring metaknight is the star.

  • The first kill was so WTF

  • Lol, wavedashing, outdated codelist

  • what is different than brawl?

    And how to install brawl+?

  • without brawl is brawl+ not possible!!! xDDDD

  • why are brawl+ fights always with marth -_-

  • They're not LOL

  • yes of course, this is better than brawl......

    THIS IS BRAWL PLUSSERY.....

  • not This video.

    it's 6 months ago, man.

  • please re-read your senseless comment

  • Its not senseless, its an opinion, no need to get defensive. I was simply stating a fact. I wasnt saying "Brawl+ is for Fags" or "this is gay" like other moronic youtubers do. i would appreciate your input on my comment not some defensive retort.

  • It's funny how you would say that actually. I understand what it is you're trying to convey, but you must understand too, that there are people out there who like some aspects of brawl that melee doesn't have. You seem the intellectual type no? The reason Brawl+ exists is because there is in fact some things about brawl that people appreciate that melee may not have but at the same time, with all those things that may be great, they want the competitive aspects that's also involved in melee.

  • and 64. why does everyone forget 64?

  • Many people agree that Smash 64 is a terrific game. I personally enjoy playing Smash 64 and there is a very large crowd of people all throughout the smash community who still play this gae competitively. I'm not really sure where smash 64 fits into this conversation though, as the conversation was about melee and brawl.

  • see thats a comment that I do not mind responding too. Even I do have to admit, the competitive aspect of Brawl is lower in some respects to that of Melee. Thanks for taking the time to give me a little more then "re-read your senseless comment". Despite my argument, I too have seen the pros and cons of both games and if hacking is what it takes to bring the best of both, then i guess so be it.

  • Brawl is a better game then melee. By a competitive aspect however melee wins. But Brawl+ gave brawl all of the competitive add ons they needed to make it amazing. They kept some great things like being able to multiple air dodge though.

  • although the discussion seems to be over, i'd like to give my reasoning behind mentioning 64.

    the strangest thing i see when people mention brawl+ is that it's always compared to melee. and that's fine, it does take Some things from it. But at the same time, everyone forgets the original, and that b+ would prefer to take from that as well(the non'broken' stuff). when b+ is discussed, it's best description is never used. Smash.

    64, melee, brawl.

    phew, i feel better.

  • LOL, i miss the hit sounds of 64 XD

  • uploaded in november, eh?

    Brawl+ has come a long way since then, you know. look into it if you're so inclined, good sir

  • its not melee and its not brawl either... youd have to play it

  • What a fucking first kill xD

  • i don´t understand the first kill lol

  • There was an official forum of this. Not in smashboards another site...but I can't find it. Anybody knows?

  • It's on smashboards.

    Simply google Smash Workshop.

  • what the hell D:

    i will have to say. this was pretty cool to watch.

  • Kizzu update ur HTS and WD codes u will be pleased ^_^

  • is this hacked?

  • yes. it's brawl+, not brawl.

  • lol junk thing..in melee only way t get out of a combo is to DI unpredictably... now u cant airdodge or DI out

  • 0:07

    Too much hitstun lol

  • btw if u play wifi can we exchange friend codes?

  • DAM! u sure know how to spike!

  • Kizzu RAPED like in his SSBM COMBO video with Marth; MELEE is still better.

  • OMG did you mention these in any of the threads? These are great :D

  • :(

    :(

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  • What's HTS stand for?

    How do you WD so well? I have trouble with it on Brawl+. D:

  • HTS = Hitstun

    Easier way to WD in Brawl+:

    (left/right) X/Y Z

  • the thing at 0:51 looked like a forward micheal jackson slide moon walk with a reverse aerial switch calculated with the exact root of force of the hypotenuse.

    In english (cause most of that talk is flibble flab) that means it looked like a wavedash:)

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  • Hey, at least Sakurai made the game easy to mod.

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  • hey kizzu did u change the gravity or did u leave it normal?

  • Normal

  • As awesome as it looks, I do have to say hacked Brawl seems much too broken...

  • Wavedash to dancing blade seems really good

  • Yeah, it's a feasible and effective move. Now that Marth's dancing blade not only easier but more effective to use, of course the WD to DB would come up on first intuition.

  • It becomes viable as killing option too since all the other attacks become way more viable to racking up damage.

  • Soooo...will people start replacing normal brawl tourney styles with Brawl + or will it separate into its own division? I still don't see it happening for the fact that a cheating device is being used. It can easily glitch up the rest of the game especially knowing it's AR.

  • Notice how much faster games are in Brawl+? Much faster gameplay + hitstun, so fun to watch, might need to go back to 4 or 5 stock matches. Gettin my SD card tommorow, cant wait to play like this. I just hope they add jump cancel on fox reflector

  • How do you do the Wavedash cheat? AR?

  • Yeah. Kinda AR.

    Homebrew Channel + Gecko OS

  • aww damn xD

  • wow crazy, so that WD was a code?

  • Yeah.

  • I think Brawl+ means they added WD and L-canceling, since you see Kizzu WD pretty often and at 1:00 that's an L-cancel, which will explain why they don't dodge as often since you're only able to do it once and you free fall after that, like Melee XP

  • Yeah.

    Brawl+ (WD/S-C/HTS1.2) = Wavedash + Shield Cancel + Hitstun 1.2

  • many people say wavedashing in here was harder than melee, to me it seemed easy, what about you? i believe brawlee's WD is easier ;)

  • Kizzu, your in-between stock show-offs make me regret the fact that I never really played Melee. <_<

    You're next for the banhammer boy.

  • Kyon nooo, not the banhammer! lol

    Seriously, I'm unsure about playing Brawl+ in future, Steel just asked for videos and I'm here providing. I'm focused in Melty Blood btw.

  • Melty Blood, you are my hero. I quit Brawl for this game and haven't regretted it at all. Who do you use?

  • Blockstring bastard`s Nanaya

  • I assume you are still playing MBAC? I've been using Warc and V sion mostly. V akiha is fun too, just difficult to use.

  • Yeah, MBAA is about U$ 2000 to import =A=

  • That is insane. You should upload some videos of your Nanaya. It is always cool to see gamers talented at more than one game.

  • WHAT THE

    howd u do that?

  • theres wavedashing in it and shit. a dur

  • whats brawl+? i dont get it

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