There are bigger fish to fry than license plates. What about the father that lost custody of his children for not believing in god? The judge took his agnosticism into consideration.
@A4AgnstcFndmntlst Are you an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist? Agnosticism does not answer the question if you "believe" in a god or not, only if you "know" if there is one. Don't hide from being an atheist simply because of the stigma created by the religious.
I don't think anyone will try to kill you for saying this stuff. Most people are atheists these days and Christians don't care about stuff like this. I am an atheist and I don't care if people spend money on stupid plates we have some over here with horny toads on them. just don't buy it. I think American society is going in our direction anyway. But really no need for the mask unless you are going after Scientology those are the ones that will stalk you thisisnot unconst bcause I donthave tobuy
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..so it would be unconstitutional only if they refuse to let others have plates as well and when they turn down the Satan worshipers then I'll go protest the DMV or whoever but until then let the babies have their bottles.
Hahaha....Jesus (no pun intended). I'm not going to argue over the validity of what you're saying, since I essentially agree with you, but take that fucking mask off. You look like a little kid who tied his mothers apron around his neck so he could look like Superman. V for Vendetta was a hamfisted, over simplified bundle of cliches and plot holes anyway and I really hope you don't expect people to take you seriously. You're not part of a revolution, you're part of a fad. A "phase". Fuck you.
I'm not sure if it actually violates anything though. From what I've heard of the seperation of church and state law, it doesn't say that the government may not support religion, rather it bars it from mandating a religion. However, I definitely think it is *wrong* for religion to have any place in government...good luck getting that law passed though :(
That is a common "argument" from the religious right.
The 1st amendment prevents the sanctioning of one religion over another - which the plate does. It prohibits US government from supporting any religion - which the plate does. Google for the Lemon Test or Lemon v. Kurtzman
The Court's decision in this case established the "Lemon test", which details the requirements for legislation concerning religion. It consists of three prongs: 1. The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose; 2. The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion; 3. The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.
If any of these 3 prongs is violated, the government's action is deemed unconstitutional under the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
I hope I don't sound too defensive (or like a nut job). But if you are concerned about religion invading your life. It can't get much worse than coming from the government. This one plate in and of itself really is not a big deal. But it is another step in a systematic attempt to infiltrate the government with religion.
Lookup House Resolution 888 - see talk2action[dot]org[slash]story[slash]2008[slash]2[slash]14[slash]32153[slash]7264
One last thing. The 14th amendment ensures that a state cannot violate any rights that are protected by the federal government. So the argument cannot be made that this issue should be left to the states.
Good topic. Indiana must not have heard of the first amendment and the wall of separation. It disturbs me to witness public displays of faith like that - it is almost as if they are trumpeting the fact that they accept things without evidence. Very weird.
The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, which is one of the most famous attempts to establish scientific truth by legislative fiat. Despite its popular name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, rather than the establishment of the value of π. Nevertheless, the bill does contain text which appears to dictate various incorrect values of π, such as 3.2
Now that is just frightening. Science is not democratic. Right is right and wrong is wrong in sciences - math included. It is awe inspiring to imagine someone trying to dictate a truth in science that is other than reality. The earth is flat, and only 6,000 years old, Pi is 3.2, and water falls up. Great idea.
There are bigger fish to fry than license plates. What about the father that lost custody of his children for not believing in god? The judge took his agnosticism into consideration.
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@A4AgnstcFndmntlst Are you an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist? Agnosticism does not answer the question if you "believe" in a god or not, only if you "know" if there is one. Don't hide from being an atheist simply because of the stigma created by the religious.
chadbowman0 1 year ago
I don't think anyone will try to kill you for saying this stuff. Most people are atheists these days and Christians don't care about stuff like this. I am an atheist and I don't care if people spend money on stupid plates we have some over here with horny toads on them. just don't buy it. I think American society is going in our direction anyway. But really no need for the mask unless you are going after Scientology those are the ones that will stalk you thisisnot unconst bcause I donthave tobuy
freddytk421 3 years ago
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..so it would be unconstitutional only if they refuse to let others have plates as well and when they turn down the Satan worshipers then I'll go protest the DMV or whoever but until then let the babies have their bottles.
freddytk421 3 years ago
Hahaha....Jesus (no pun intended). I'm not going to argue over the validity of what you're saying, since I essentially agree with you, but take that fucking mask off. You look like a little kid who tied his mothers apron around his neck so he could look like Superman. V for Vendetta was a hamfisted, over simplified bundle of cliches and plot holes anyway and I really hope you don't expect people to take you seriously. You're not part of a revolution, you're part of a fad. A "phase". Fuck you.
MBArkestra 3 years ago
That is some really scary and eye opening stuff! Licence plates with "In God We Trust"?
Theocracy is right around the corner folks! Atheists, if you're out there, better come out of your comfy little closets and get fucking busy!
We may not be a theocracy. Yet. But we might just be a "pre-theocracy".
Well c'mon, isn't it soooo fucking obvious???
nogogma 3 years ago
You are correct in you're statements, but you lose creditable by trying to ride on "anonymous". coat tails. Get a new avatar
nogodscanuck 3 years ago
I picked this avatar because I liked the movie, before I had even heard of anonymous.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
I'm not sure if it actually violates anything though. From what I've heard of the seperation of church and state law, it doesn't say that the government may not support religion, rather it bars it from mandating a religion. However, I definitely think it is *wrong* for religion to have any place in government...good luck getting that law passed though :(
Adnara 3 years ago
That is a common "argument" from the religious right.
The 1st amendment prevents the sanctioning of one religion over another - which the plate does. It prohibits US government from supporting any religion - which the plate does. Google for the Lemon Test or Lemon v. Kurtzman
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
The Court's decision in this case established the "Lemon test", which details the requirements for legislation concerning religion. It consists of three prongs: 1. The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose; 2. The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion; 3. The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
If any of these 3 prongs is violated, the government's action is deemed unconstitutional under the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
I hope I don't sound too defensive (or like a nut job). But if you are concerned about religion invading your life. It can't get much worse than coming from the government. This one plate in and of itself really is not a big deal. But it is another step in a systematic attempt to infiltrate the government with religion.
Lookup House Resolution 888 - see talk2action[dot]org[slash]story[slash]2008[slash]2[slash]14[slash]32153[slash]7264
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A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
One last thing. The 14th amendment ensures that a state cannot violate any rights that are protected by the federal government. So the argument cannot be made that this issue should be left to the states.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
I really try to be accepting and respectful to all but to those who wish to destroy the liberty of this nation, I say, they can put it in their ass.
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
Good topic. Indiana must not have heard of the first amendment and the wall of separation. It disturbs me to witness public displays of faith like that - it is almost as if they are trumpeting the fact that they accept things without evidence. Very weird.
AzmodanKijur 3 years ago
Sorry to say but it wasn't the first time.
The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, which is one of the most famous attempts to establish scientific truth by legislative fiat. Despite its popular name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, rather than the establishment of the value of π. Nevertheless, the bill does contain text which appears to dictate various incorrect values of π, such as 3.2
A4AgnstcFndmntlst 3 years ago
Now that is just frightening. Science is not democratic. Right is right and wrong is wrong in sciences - math included. It is awe inspiring to imagine someone trying to dictate a truth in science that is other than reality. The earth is flat, and only 6,000 years old, Pi is 3.2, and water falls up. Great idea.
AzmodanKijur 3 years ago
At least they put it on the ass of the car.
NEWSTOGOD 3 years ago
Agreed!
AzmodanKijur 3 years ago