ArmA mods: ACE vs ECS vs XAM infantry fighting

[jamoy1993]

1st ACE Here is garbage, 2nd is quite cool 3rd is quite cool too, "SHO YO SELF MOTHA F**KA" :D, Its dissapointing that the sound sucks in ACE For Arma1 but ACE2 Sound kicks so much ass compared to all of these mods!

[18sharkkiller]

laggy really laggy even my laptop can do better anyway the mods are good

[KateandHumphrey97]

i am watching vids o arma cause i am waiting for it to download and im happy i did it looks epic

[PolicemaN115]

how to have crosshairs with SLX ?

[9cloudersprofile]

I like arma 1 sooo much better then 2

[wenqiweiabcd]

none of other two mods can change the way the game is played as much as the ACE mod. they're just not for comparison. ECS and XAM might be better than ACE in some ways, but altogether they're not even close.

[xiirudeboyzz]

bit laggy and your graphics are only on normal get a better graphics card

[Dethmeister]

@xiirudeboyzz Get a better graphics card you say? What a great suggestion haha. This video is from January of 2009. I've built a completely new rig since then. It would probably run ArmA and Fraps really great but instead I've moved on to ArmA 2. So be sure to check out my new laggy videos of ArmA 2. My hardware never keeps up with the new software unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

[MolonLabe84]

XAM and Evolution has proven to be alot of fun, but somtimes you may get a surrendering Opfor that you have to track down or you can't move on.

[MolonLabe84]

XAM best mod, ACE is too glitchy especially with the blackouts while running w/o being injured! However ACE has by far the best arsenal.

[fubufooluk]

@MolonLabe84 the black outs while runing are because ur to tired carry less stuff and walk real soldiers cant run forever carrying all the guns in creation on there back ace is the best mod i have seen so realistic

[MolonLabe84]

@fubufooluk haha go run with a weighted vest, if you see black then something is wrong, they should just have a reduced player speed nothing more.

[handgunner09]

arma rocks cod 6 sucks thumbs up if u agree

[Raptorgangtsa]

ACE is the best.

[yeahskateyeah]

I am currently using XAM. The problem I have with it is that the good guys start yelling shit out randomly. You can also hear the Opfor talking from 500 meters away.

[SpadeMF]

i got question about XAM, i really enjoy this mod but there is one annoying thing about it. is it possible to turn off "bleeding to death" feature and "burning in tank" feature? and how to do it?

[PeterGriffinSkate]

omg i HATE fraps. i tried to make an arma2 video at 30 fps...and everything was ok....pretty smooth and all that. but then i tried to do the same with mw2. at 30 fps, its IMPOSSILE to play..

[ukpilot92]

whats the game called!?

[DJsharp707]

are u really that fucking stupid dude it says it in the fucking title u dumbass go back to 3rd grade damn.

[FredrikEastling]

ArmA. This is the original. The sequel "ArmA 2" has been released.

[lemassaa]

look at the tittle

[KillerDinoz]

XAM has bad guys that can put there hands up if they surrender@#$@!

[EdmasterXXX]

Is it posible to use ECS and ACE at the same time?

[isfwarchief]

No, both have many configs that are not compatible, like sounds, and Im not a mod maker or something like that, but I know the basics of the Game config, let me tell it to you by the easy "THINK IT" way: Both mods have sound replacements, the game is not intelligent, wont run 2 sound replacementes at the same time, or wont choose for you any of them. That makes trouble to the game. And probably, wont run. :)

[sgtsn1per]

where do i DOWNLOAD ACE MOD cant download anywhere

[isfwarchief]

Go to w w w (dot) armedassault (dot) info , scroll down the website, look for a search var, and write ACE mod full ... Why full? Its the base of the mod, you need that to play it. The other files you might find are extensions and/or patches of the mod. :)

[scottyrune123]

I Really Wanted To Know Whats The Loud Pishh Sound Sometimes when ppl shoot

[Raptor13270]

Sonic crack (bullet breaks the sound barrier)

[HyperU2]

ECS is my favorite, always has been. I'd love to see it for ARMA2 now that I can't go back to ARMA.

[freikinnoob123]

Do enemys surrender in ace mod?

[Hauler24]

All 3 mods should join forces to create the motherload of all mods. Could you even imagine how great it would be.

[Dethmeister]

ECS is the only one that I experienced the ai coming into a building and up stairs to find me. The other 2 mods the ai would run around the outside of the building.

[uzpisox]

It would be sweet if someone would put all the good thing for these 3 mods into a single mod.

[SxXxoXOXoxXxS]

the civilians didnt even move a muscle when u started firing...

[Dethmeister]

hmm yeah I wonder why. I've seen them run for cover and even scream and cuss with some of those mods. I might have set them to safe mode or whatever.

[Gargantou]

What's the best ARMA1 mod for improved AI, and not just enemy AI, but improved friendly AI as well!

SLX seems to only really improve the enemy AI so.

[Dethmeister]

All of these mods seem to effect freindly as well as enemy ai.

[ROFLGOATS]

ECS, hands down.

For ArmA 2 AI, get SLX. It's probably better than most professional AIs.

[Davidw59]

5:45 hardcore fatality lol.

[AntiWaffle]

Drpepper...

this is ArmA 1.

I just noticed that the AI is a LOT less aware in Arma than in Arma II, do the mods have anything to do with that?

[Stig573]

That's mainly due to improved coding and procedural AI. The mods in general improved the AI, and gave them more options in any given situation.

Hopefully the modding community will continue to do such great work for ArmA2. Best community in any game I've ever played.

[Drpepper687]

Which mod do you guys recommend the most? And are they easy to install?

I hate how I saw a video on YouTube of an A-10 attacking something in the game, meanwhile the A-10 in my game doesn't sound anything like it. Plus, why are there only 2 islands in my mission editor?

Overall, my AMRA2 doesn't look anything like all of the badass ARMA2 videos I see on YouTube. That, and I can't update to the newest patch, and I have the same copy as a friend so we can't play eachother on multiplayer.

[watevatube]

"show yourself Mutha Fucker"

Lololololol !!

4:06

[tokishreds]

i really love the XAM, but you cant use other mods with it... thats the only reason i wont use it!! arghh but i love it!

[warmachine778]

ACE MODS THE BEST!!!

[Partizanas86]

i like your owerview do some more

[BlackPhosphorus]

we need all of these realism mods to come together and create a megamod.

[xmackattack45x]

you can some what do that with the mod launcher

[reallytightpants]

i think ECS has got it , it really puts ya into it with the yelling of soldiers smarter AI heavy breathing in battle situations but the sound effects go to XAM

[MoskvaPeterburg]

So just overwrite the sound folders of XAM into the ECS mod. Very simply done.

[Andrismilitary]

XAM mod is looks MUTAFUCKING AWESOME!!!

[grandtheftauto4IV]

in the game can u have the ACE and XAM at the same time

[magicdude44]

I was just wondering which mods you suggest I download? I just bought the game on Ebay, and it hasn't arrived yet but I hear there are problems with the innitial game. Any help is much appreciated.

[Dethmeister]

There's no big problems with the standard game. Just be sure to do all the official patches. ECS is quite good and it's not as huge of a download as ACE or XAM. ECS is an enhancement of the effects and doesn't come with a ton of new units so it's the most compatible. Missions made with ECS installed can still be played by people without the mod I think. ACE and XAM are like total conversions but are great if that's what you want. I've heard XAM isn't multiplayer compatible but that may be false.

[LotBountyHunter]

5:39 hey u just killed a prisoner of war.

that's breaking the Geneva convention.lol

[AdamKofron47]

lol 4:06

[pfcsusczynski]

in which one do guys surrender to u

[Dethmeister]

XAM has the surrendering AI. The video starts out with ACE then goes to ECS and ends with XAM.

[yesiam2113]

Hey dethmeister what Graphics card u using and what are these settings?

[Dethmeister]

nVidia 8800GT. I think the resolution is 1280x800 ws, most everything set to normal except Postprocess effects, Blood and Shadow Detail are all the way up. I've since learned that Shadow Detail looks better in most ways if set just to normal. My cpu is weak AMD 3700+ but I'm upgrading to a Phenom quad core.

[jonnyfilmboy]

I've only played ACE and I've been pretty impressed with everything except the sounds. To me the sounds aren't that great on my Logitech THX system. But the tracers and inclusion of a bunch of other mods is nice. Dragging, the whole injury system should have been in vanilla Arma, the laser designator is better. AI seems better, but still pretty damn dumb.

[demonikreaper]

Get the VOP sound mod on ArmaHolic, he has a specially designed released for ACE version and it sounds MUCH better.

[jonnyfilmboy]

I wasn't sure how to install it because there aren't any clear instructions. I'll have to take another look at it. Not sure which addon folder I should activate.

[demonikreaper]

Well... I'm pretty sure XAM comes with a self-installer. ACE as well. ECS you might just have to do the addon folder method for. ArmaHolic has a pretty good guide on how to do the modfolder method; you should be able to find it on any mod's download page.

[jonnyfilmboy]

No, I was talking about the VOP sound mod, not ACE. I know how to install ACE, as yes, you're right it has an exe. But the VOP sound mod gives you some strange collection of folders that aren't intuitively named. And the readme is outdated as there was some config fix that was released after it was written which doesn't have an accurate readme either. Maybe I should just let the config fix overwrite the earlier VOP sound mod.

[demonikreaper]

There's no config' fix. There's a config' file for ACE and there's a config' file if you want to use the soundmod without ACE. All you do is you find your ACE folder and extract all the sounds files over to that, replace the existing ones (it's a good idea to make a backup, of course), and then use the appropriate config' file.

[Sellos23]

xam is the winner lol

[Scheintoter]

The AI in ACE is very very bad. The Russian are good of 50 Meters... but when a fight exist with 100, 200 or 500 meter of distance, then you see the "real" AI - loser, like in the normal Arma without a mod!

[Dethmeister]

Is it? I really haven't played them much to know which is best. I did a test once where I was in a Stryker armored vehicle and had the ai driving down the road towards me in a UAZ. In ECS and XAM they just drove right up to me to die but in ACE they stopped quite a distance away climbed out and scattered and the anti armor guy fired at me. But in other instances the ai in ECS seems better cause they will enter buildings to find me. The ai in the other mods just circled the building.

[modernflyboy]

yea they are bad if you takes the difficulty on bad your idiot!

[Dethmeister]

We want an AI that works in a realistic fashion, like using cover and suppressing fire. If the AI is set to high difficulty they still behave in a fake manner that is then compounded by them being incredibly perfect shots.

[modernflyboy]

And in ACE they are team working, 3 goes forward and stops then 3 others goes forward and it goes on like that!

[Dethmeister]

Hmm ok fair enough. I will have to check it out more. I did notice on my other ACE video where I drag the injured guy they seemed to be really laying down a lot of suppressing fire.

[modernflyboy]

yea its not so easy too see the team working and ACE are not known as a good AI updater or someting like that i didnt see before i did play online when they flanked me and just estrem team working(the difficulty was on the other than regular i dont remeber the name on it sorry)

later

[undyingmercy]

Anyone else hear that guy? I'M BLEEDING!!! I like ACE mod the best.

[Dethmeister]

Yeah, ECS and XAM have the AI that say semi-relevant things. ACE doesn't have that though. I ran ACE and ECS at the same time before and ArmA was using ECS sounds but with ACE everything else I think, so the AI did have speech.

[blindguardian805]

haha 2:06 someone took there life for there friend

or you know bad timing hahaa

[Marcus4president]

which one would you recommend more for realism and sence of distance

and non analog sound

[tokishreds]

personally, i dont think A.I in any of the mods act realistically, they dont grab cover or ever act as a squad.

If they could mix the charater animations for call of duty 4 and the tactics of full spectrum warrior

that would be perfect

[garciamgo]

HEY, i have ACE 1.00, what's the next update I need to do?

[Dethmeister]

I have ACE 1.00. I don't know if there is a newer version out. I hear zGuba's Compact Fix Pack enhances effects for air units and is compatible with ACE. I've seen a video where someone is using it for the FLIR effect from the Compact Fix Pack with ACE. XAM mod has FLIR too but the AH tracers aren't as good as ACE mod's.

[siddern]

just use the sixarmaupdater, and it will update it to version 1.02 ;)

[TwistedAcid]

The XAM mod looks and sounds the best. I hope it's compatible with ArmA 1.15.

[Dethmeister]

I have a little review of my first impressions with these 3 mods in the info box.