Message to Ralph Nader

[Ravensmist7]

Bush stole the election and it was Ralphs fault??? What is Gore doing for this country??? Oh! At least he is not selling off the national forests to the timber industry like he did as VP. Through some cold water on your face! Your notion is tired put it to bed and try to wake your supine ass up!

[BabylonsKing]

Who is this Stupid Looking PRICK? Do your INBREDED MOTHER AND YOURSELF AND BIG FUCKING FAVOR and don't make another VIDEO cause you don't understand shit of what you're saying...

[East2ndst]

Apparently this guy has a degree in being an asshole. A very vain jerk that does not know anything about politics nor reality. The media blamed Ralgh for Gore's loss. That is the biggest bullshit story since "you can't change presidents in the middle of a war." people, don't listen to guys like this that just want to show their faces on line so they can find a boyfriend.

[Fergit3]

Why does McKinney have a better chance at winning than Nader? Nader only got 0.6% of the vote this year and that was still more than McKinney.

Furthermore, why do you go on this assumption that all of Nader's voters would have voted for Gore in 2000? All research done on the election says that only 38% of Nader's voters would have voted for Gore. Which was not enough to sway the election.

It is a ridiculous assumption because Nader ran a very anti-Gore campaign in 2000.

[wsohigian]

I'd give zero stars if I could. Horrible.

[nevermindykyr14]

So... now that the election is over, do you still think that Ralph Nader has less of a chance of winning than McKinney? Seeing as Nader received nearly double the votes?

Nader for President '12

[countumga]

People tend to tell Ralph Nader to "get his head out of his ass", but if you'd just get your own head out of your own ass, you'd see that he's trying to make things better. Now they're ignorant enough to call him the scapegoat of our turmoil with Bush because he "swung" the vote. Please... Blame that on the legislators in Florida who thought it was their duty to choose the president for us, and their dilemma with hanging chads. It was all a load of bullshit. Don't believe me? Watch 'Recount'.

[maurbucks]

It may be true that the people that voted for Nader would have voted for Gore otherwise..but the people who voted for Nader voted for him because they liked him better. I thought that was the point of an election.

[SeriouslyPPL]

Please guy- don't put 2 1/2 minute videos of only your face and totally ridiculous comments online. please, please...please. I now blame you for every problem there has ever been in this world. You have spoiled my dinner.

[UnkownRiot]

People voted Nader to imply to the country they want a REAL CHANGE! So if you wanna play these bitch ass games, blame the people that voted Nader. Shit if I could vote, I would of happily voted Nader.

[apefistdynamic]

some copy pasta from the last video like this. most of the people who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 were republicans...if anything Nader was helping democrats, and they still managed to lose.

Educate yourself a little bit better on what happened in 2000.

[myxomata]

If the people who voted for Nader had voted for Al Gore we still would have had a corporate candidate, pandering to corporate interests, dependent on corporate money.

REALLY - what real difference would it have made? The root cause behind our problems (healthcare, foreign policy, drug war, economy, civil liberties, etc) is corporate power trumping public interest - and the Democrats and Republicans alike are beholden to the corporations, not the people

DOWN WITH THE TWO PARTIES! Vote Nader!

[BrandonSeattle]

Hey Nader you fucker. Look to be brutaly honest, I wouldn't mind NADER being President but this ain't Canada or England. Theres only 2 major partys Democrats and Republicans. Nader you mess things up for us democrats, go away and let Barack win in peace. I'm tired of you. But with Bob Barr, he's a republican, so he''ll take votes away from McCain. which is a good thing. Look FOOL, Just run again in 2012 against Romney and Palin.

[AssilemakaMelissa]

You are extremely ignorant! When do we start to fight back for our freedom from Government rule? There is proof everywhere, you are just repeating propanganda that has been drilled into your head by the media that is ran by the same corporations that own the 2 Parties..they all work together for their own agendas..and our wellfare is not their first agenda. Controlling the masses is, through The Patriot Act. The election was stolen from Gore by The Supreme Court, they made Bush President.

[HughieGphiladelphia]

He did not "screw thingd up". My god man, your helping to spread the "spolier" propaganda. The Democrats are Republicans are the SAME!

[yrrmom]

About half the eligible voters voted in 2004 too. That wasn't Nader's fault either. It's really extremely contemptuous of democracy to suggest that an honest candidate's legitimately winning votes is "bad" for democracy.

[yrrmom]

You do realize that about half the eligible voters actually voted in 2000? That was just as much a "cause" of Bush winning as anything else was. Also, you do remember that the Supreme Court handed the victory to Bush, don't you? Nader didn't do that. Also you must acknowledge that Kerry failed to win an overwhelming majority of the votes? Is that Nader's fault, or Kerry's? If Kerry had gotten more votes than he did, maybe this all wouldn't have happened? Therefore, Kerry's to blame, idiot.

[greglawrence]

What is it about democracy that this "person" doesn't understand?

Why would anybody want to limit themselves to just a two-party system?

Has he forgotten that we elected the democrats with a landslide election 2 years ago mandating they stop the war and corporate madness but they haven't done a GOD DAMN thing!

I say to all... two years ago WE threw away our votes, didn't we?

[serfdomthwart]

I'm voting Nader/Gonzalez regardless of what this cock-muncher says. His message is pretty much: the odds are against you, so don't even try; just don't try. This is a great message. This would accomplish wonders in our world. Should democrats be allowed to run unopposed? Would that make you happy? Democrats should earn votes. If they loose some to a third party, that third party rightfully earned those votes. Fucking drone

[LiberalMormonMusings]

If you think that I believe that Democrats should run unopposed, then you missed my point completely. Personally, I think the Obama/Clinton matchup was good for the Democrats in that each of them had to earn votes, and now Obama will have to again. But if I thought people should just vote Democrat automatically, I wouldn't have even brought up Cynthia McKinney. She is working to earn votes. Nader is not.

[serfdomthwart]

You complain of Nader causing 'trouble'. Then you say he shouldn't run because he'll cause more. You're well on your way to favoring no opposition. Plus, Nader has a right to run. If he does and 'takes' votes from democrats (in any way), it's entirely legal. So what's the problem?

[LiberalMormonMusings]

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding here. I am not endorsing no opposition. Please remember I have spoken very highly of Cynthia McKinney's campaign. But there is quite the difference between what Cynthia McKinney is doing and what Ralph Nader is doing.

[serfdomthwart]

Irrespective of what you believe Nader isn't doing, you are endorsing some "no opposition" by urging Nader not to run. This is a supposed democracy. Until we know it differently, Nader should run with troubles or without.

[countumga]

Agreed, good sir.

[niakitty]

"she has a lot better chance of winning than you do"????????????!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH, ....THAT'S a good reason to vote for someone.Not because they'll right the wrongs being commited daily against the American public like Ralph Nader will. Get some logic and make a thoughtful comment next time. I'm even more for Nader after seeing this.Nader-Gonzalez 2008!

[biscoito1r]

you're right, maybe you should run instead of him

[flashoot]

Nader vote here.

If he werent running, no vote at all.

[relgstorm]

hear hear!!

[ryanshaunkelly]

Gravel Kucinich Paul Nader;

dare speak truth,

demand peace.

Honesty compassion intelligence guts -

[digitalcurry]

Don't Blame Ralph ...

Blame Gore, Blame the Supreme Court and most of all blame Bush.

If you don't blame the ones responsible, you are never gonna fix it. Blaming Ralph is like blaming the victim. Why not just blame children for child molestation. Or blame clean lakes for pollution?

[digitalcurry]

Don't blame Ralph for the faults of Republicrats and Democans. If there was a difference between the two parties he wouldn't be running. PS I have never voted for Ralph.

[doejohn50]

The democrats gave us: Hard core anti-impeachment. The "PATRIOT" Act. Wiretapping with immunity for Bush and the telecom industry. A decade long illegal war. John Negroponte as ambassador to Iraq. The Thought Crimes bill. There weremore democrats who voted for the Thought Crimes Bill than there were republicans. 419 members of congress voted for it, 6 voted against it.

You got it wrong. We didn't win. We lost and we lost big. So who is the real threat here? Ralph Nader? Get bent!

[johnlepo]

Indeed, support McKinney. Nader is there as a protest vote, not to build anything. McKinney will build a viable third party, we need to get her over 5%. With Nader on the ballot she might not get there. Though nader didn't get Bush elected, take a look at the figures.

[breaks0]

Agreed. I concur w/80-90% of what you said liberalmormon (are you really a mormon considering mckinney?! if so, that pops my bubble of political stereotypes! :P). Though you did take 2 mins to get to your punchline, but ended up being worth the wait. The only thing I disagree w/you on is that as a Green I can assure you Nader and us didn't cost the 00 or 04 election, as you already seem to know (I think?). While hurting the dems in vote total he did help the greens (while using them).

[breaks0]

However paradoxical that may seem. As you correctly said (or at least implied), Greg Palast's, Mike Fitrakis' and Harvey Wasserman's work and "Blackout" (which I guess you've seen), among other sources, document in fairly great detail how 00 and 04 were stolen. Hurting mainly latinos, african and native american voters in the process. Meanwhile Nader's 3 million votes helped the Greens, at least in that election. But you are right, the gig of GOP support for him was up by 04 and we're wiser now.

[johnlepo]

Indeed, support McKinney. Nader is there as a protest vote, not to build anything. McKinney will build a viable third party, we need to get her over 5%. With Nader on the ballot she might not get there. Though nader didn't get Bush elected, take a look at the figures.

[qipengart]

GO GO NADER :)! He is a man of principle and the man who can stand up to the corporations. And he is no Hilary Clinton...

[fuckutubaz]

if i didn't vote for ralph nader, i would've vote for a republican. the democrats brought their loss upon themselves. what's so great about cynthia mcckinney. she doesn't have the amount of qualifications ralph nader has on the tip of his finger. do your research boy.

[wentrikin]

Anyone who states that Nader should not run for president is basically saying that they do not support democracy. Personally, I support Gravel but I applaud Nader for throwing his name in the mix and everything he has done for our country. More voices and more choices is what we all need...and one quick question for you, if you blame Nader for Bush winning in 2000(which we all should know is false), why would you consider voting for any 3rd party candidate? You are contradicting yourself!

[truthout911]

In 2000 250000 dems in FL voted for Bush, Gore didnt carry either TN or AR. 90000 plus black & latino voters were thrown off the voter roles illegally by choicepoint and criminals, Bush received more votes in certain counties in FL than registered voters. P. Buchanan reported problems in one county as receiving 8000 latino votes who he knew werent his constiuents. Plus all Senators stood silent when the black caucus protested the count in FL. Why are these amongst you talk points, DEMAPUSSY?

[truthout911]

If Cynthia doesnt have a problem with Ralph running, they why should you.

[LiberalMormonMusings]

Explain to me why, by the 2004 election, the Green Party had dropped Nader like a bad habit.

[truthout911]

The green held their primary too late for the two party process, again Nader has spent a lifetime working to make the environment safe even for faggot like yourself. You may not want to vote for him, but dont be disrespectful towards him.

[indigotay]

there's something really annoying about you.

love,

one fag to another

[clevfutbol23]

You are without a spine my friend. You said you agree with all of Ralph's opinions, and you don't support him? Perhaps you should re-evaluate your political decision making process, or maybe you love only having two choices for President every election (sarcasm)

Additionally, that "spoiler" wrap is bogus; FLA was not lost because of Nader, as there were many small party candidates in that state. Each of these small parties got more votes than the difference between Gore and Bush.

[LiberalMormonMusings]

If you oppose the two major parties so much, why not just support Cynthia McKinney? She is a much more credible candidate who has actually held office, whereas Ralph Nader has done nothing but make a mess of the last two elections. Explain to me why Cynthia McKinney could not have your vote. Why does it _have_ to be Nader?

[clevfutbol23]

I dont have a problem with Cynthia, but if you are going to compare them I think it may be wise to look at Naders record; he is more experienced in change than Cynthia ever has. He was the major player in the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act, and was also responsible for a number of consumer issues that have saved thousands upon thousands of lives. Nader is one of the most influencial figures of modern US history. I would not oppose your rejection of Nader, but your reasons arent valid.

[truthout911]

Hey demapussy, explain to us how he screwed things up in 2000, even Cynthia will tell you that is a lie.

[LiberalMormonMusings]

In the 2000 election, Nader made a specific campaign strategy to campaign in states where the Democrats were weak. He didn't do so in states where the Republicans were weak. The result? Bush carried many of those states.

When he wanted to repeat this strategy in 2004, the Green Party said no, saying they didn't want the same backlash of 2000. When Nader insisted, the Green Party refused to nominate him. He insisted on running anyway as an independent, and got no support.

[truthout911]

In 2004 the green party primary was held to late in the year before the Dem convention, that is why he ran an independent. Why is it that DEMAPUSSIES think we automatically owe you our votes? So Demapussies what is your defense to all of the facts that I laid out for you?

[hypnometal]

I'm not disputing your facts. I simply don't believe that Ralph Nader is a credible candidate. And actually, your behavior is demonstrating the most disturbing part about Ralph Nader, which is that he's developing a personality cult. Otherwise, he wouldn't be so quick to insist that he's the only one who can defend these issues, he wouldn't insist that he has to punish the Democrats to do so, and he certainly would have no problem endorsing McKinney.

[truthout911]

Im supporting Gravel, I voted for Nader in 2000. My whole point is how phony ass liberals, progressives, and dems cry about the war ending, how they want health care, new social progragms and any kind of progressive legislation they can think and the exscorate a candidate who has the record of fighting for those things and run behind candidates like Obama, Clinton, & Edwards who didnt and are paid for by corporate america. My attitude is one of someone who is sick of liberal hypocrisy.

[hypnometal]

Good for you. I supported Kucinich. I believe Clinton and Edwards are DLC corporate lackeys and have no faith in them. I have a little faith in Obama, but I believe Kucinich really would have been the best choice for this country. People ask Kucinich why he stays in the Democratic party when he keeps getting the treatment he does, and he keeps saying he's doing missionary work, to pull the party back in the right direction.

[truthout911]

Plus Ralph's running now and then is not about punishing Dems, its about providing voters with more choices and the platform that Dems claim to have but do not perform by their actions.