Now those who are cognitively impaired live in the community with assistance if they have the funding, but in my state the funding for new development has stopped, so those young people turning 18 have nothing. They and their families are put on a waiting list, hoping for funding. We have young consumers who need 24/7 staffing and there is nothing we can do. There are some who face homelessness because of a lack of funding, and no one cares.
this was in 1981 and i am deaf and i stayed in place called willowbrook in the usa what pisse sme off is there was deaf school's then and me and him where stuck in a hospital. if your deaf and u have no way to comunacate then u are going to act out.
People with cognitive impairments have always had the short end of the stick when it comes to public funding. In the past it was large, underfunded institutions, now it is small, underfunded agencies trying to care for people in the community. And every year funding gets cut more and more. Why? Because they don't vote and most people only think of keeping their money in their own pocket, rather then helping those less fortunate.
the program shows the failurs of the pst and present health system , the very fact that the child , the person , is alowed to sit and distroy their mental health is a sad and true fact , the words human injustes apply here and i hope , and hope that everyone watching will join me in saying , these people should not be left like this and the people like around the world should get the care they need for them , not for us or staff , the mental people need help , not left in a room to rot.
Well, since a lot of us are here from Panorama, and have now just watched that, do a search for "The Strangest Village in Britain" to see a different approach; housing a large number of disturbed people in a gated community.
@NathanF11989 Most of them were moved into the community in the late 70's and 80's, mainly due to a large shift in society's perspective on people with learning dis/mental health problems, I think partially affected by these types of programs.
Many of them live in smaller 4-6 bed houses, usually with people of similar levels of ability, and with dedicated staff teams. Very similar in effect to the spastics society home shown here. JUst updated and modernised. We try our best as staff. x
I work with mentally disordered offenders in a ward that us often understaffed with a huge workload.
Daily staff go without breaks to get things done. Nurses are demoralised as mistakes do happen and it's automatically the staffs fault- not the system.
I've been complaining to MPs for years.. If your outraged at this programme and panorama.. Then YOU complain too.
Yeah there is a recession and money has to be saved... But targeting the vulnerable is not the answer.
The general public are up in arms at the thought of how disabled groups are forced to live... I've worked in these old institutions and the scary thing is.. They could have worked with better nurse patient ratios, better equipment, training and facilities.. But each and every government since this broadcast has cut NHS budgets with no thought of how diminished staff numbers will cope w
Unfortunately, in all the time that has passed since this programme was first aired in 1981, there still is no answers.
Wards are still short staffed, governments put more and more restraints on the NHS and the first group that THIS government targeted was nurses!
An initial 2 year wage freeze, pension reforms all create disharmony and low morale among nurses..... Yet who else would got to work daily to be assaulted? Who else would go into a place to have every ounce of humanity sucked from the
Thanks for uploading this documentary - I'm another after watching the disturbing Panorama undercover doc wanted to watch this. Makes me think has societies view on the mentally ill and disabled really changed? I hope we can learn
An invaluable insight into the way in which the caring of people has changed for the better, and unfortunately, the way in which it hasn`t. Hard to watch? definately. Valid to better your understanding and ability to do right? ESSENTIAL. Care in homes and the community has to be a loop of continuity of communication and ever changing needs, how far would you go to relieve yourself of life encompassed with nothing more than four walls and a regime of drugs, where no 1 seems able to care
I am always shocked by this video, and have seen it many times, thank you for making it easier for me to access.
We still see insitiutionalised behaviours today, and we must remain aware of this as cuts are made which will, no doubt, affect the quality and amount of care which people who have the label of learning difficulties recieve. Thanks Again for raising the profile.
This is harrowing and eye-opening. How far we have come! I feel awful for the residents and staff in those horrific instututions and thought that the young man speaking in part 4 was spot on.
I used to live near Borocourt Hospital,my friends parents worked there. It was always a place of mystery and fear. We used to cycle down there as kids and ridicule these poor souls as they wandered around the grounds of the Hospital. It's closed now and is being turned into a large housing scheme (surprise). Just glad Medicine has helped the understanding of mental illness.
Surprised at how few people finished the whole documentary. I am a principal at an elementary school with a high population of students with autism. I can see many of the attention seeking and stimulatory behaviors our students exhibit before they come to us. To see our ability to throw away divinely created brothers and sisters is shocking. This is really heartbreaking to watch. We have come a long way since this time but we still have a long way to go.
Thank you for such a thought provoking post. It's terrible to watch. But at the same time it is heartening to see someone cared enough to film this and others found a better solution with the group home. We spend so much time worrying about the horrors in other countries when we do the same to our own children, family and friends.
in a nurseing home you are lucky to have a nurse and 2 aids takeing care of at least 23 residents. they dont think of how hard it is to take care of these people according to state we should be ok with that ratio but when most of those people need lotes of help it doesnt matter. all to save money it is never about the residents and the quility of care.
Realistically you are never going to get a good ratio of staff to patient are you?,you get a good idea of the "esteem" the nurses were held in by the psychologists glib talk of "better staff",its easy to criticise isnt it?,i would imagine a 12 hour shift looking after poor souls like these would be extremely harrowing,until one inevitably got "hardened" to it.
I still happens. Nut not to the same extent. Houses like the house for these children are commonplace but there are still the old stly "asylums" that exist and are basically glorified prisons.
Thank you so much for posting this. Even if only a small number of paople watch it they will be made aware of the plight of people with an intellectual disability that still happens today.
Sad, disturbing and outstanding. No political will to spend money on these poor people. This is unfortunately evidenced by the very low view count. Let's face it, population at large is content to turn a blind eye to the warehousing of our fellow humans.
Now those who are cognitively impaired live in the community with assistance if they have the funding, but in my state the funding for new development has stopped, so those young people turning 18 have nothing. They and their families are put on a waiting list, hoping for funding. We have young consumers who need 24/7 staffing and there is nothing we can do. There are some who face homelessness because of a lack of funding, and no one cares.
Miss65boo 1 month ago
this was in 1981 and i am deaf and i stayed in place called willowbrook in the usa what pisse sme off is there was deaf school's then and me and him where stuck in a hospital. if your deaf and u have no way to comunacate then u are going to act out.
jb55101 2 months ago
People with cognitive impairments have always had the short end of the stick when it comes to public funding. In the past it was large, underfunded institutions, now it is small, underfunded agencies trying to care for people in the community. And every year funding gets cut more and more. Why? Because they don't vote and most people only think of keeping their money in their own pocket, rather then helping those less fortunate.
Miss65boo 4 months ago
the program shows the failurs of the pst and present health system , the very fact that the child , the person , is alowed to sit and distroy their mental health is a sad and true fact , the words human injustes apply here and i hope , and hope that everyone watching will join me in saying , these people should not be left like this and the people like around the world should get the care they need for them , not for us or staff , the mental people need help , not left in a room to rot.
theotherstuffguys 5 months ago
Well, since a lot of us are here from Panorama, and have now just watched that, do a search for "The Strangest Village in Britain" to see a different approach; housing a large number of disturbed people in a gated community.
lexichronicle2 7 months ago
probably dead. some of them anyway. god bless them all.
stuartpatto1976 9 months ago
I wonder how these children are doing now.
NathanF11989 9 months ago
@NathanF11989 Most of them were moved into the community in the late 70's and 80's, mainly due to a large shift in society's perspective on people with learning dis/mental health problems, I think partially affected by these types of programs.
Many of them live in smaller 4-6 bed houses, usually with people of similar levels of ability, and with dedicated staff teams. Very similar in effect to the spastics society home shown here. JUst updated and modernised. We try our best as staff. x
silverjunky 8 months ago
- with the extra worn load.
I work with mentally disordered offenders in a ward that us often understaffed with a huge workload.
Daily staff go without breaks to get things done. Nurses are demoralised as mistakes do happen and it's automatically the staffs fault- not the system.
I've been complaining to MPs for years.. If your outraged at this programme and panorama.. Then YOU complain too.
But I guarantee.... Nothing will change.
elderpark 9 months ago
- them.
Yeah there is a recession and money has to be saved... But targeting the vulnerable is not the answer.
The general public are up in arms at the thought of how disabled groups are forced to live... I've worked in these old institutions and the scary thing is.. They could have worked with better nurse patient ratios, better equipment, training and facilities.. But each and every government since this broadcast has cut NHS budgets with no thought of how diminished staff numbers will cope w
elderpark 9 months ago
Unfortunately, in all the time that has passed since this programme was first aired in 1981, there still is no answers.
Wards are still short staffed, governments put more and more restraints on the NHS and the first group that THIS government targeted was nurses!
An initial 2 year wage freeze, pension reforms all create disharmony and low morale among nurses..... Yet who else would got to work daily to be assaulted? Who else would go into a place to have every ounce of humanity sucked from the
elderpark 9 months ago
Thanks for uploading this documentary - I'm another after watching the disturbing Panorama undercover doc wanted to watch this. Makes me think has societies view on the mentally ill and disabled really changed? I hope we can learn
zakariyasaeed 9 months ago
An invaluable insight into the way in which the caring of people has changed for the better, and unfortunately, the way in which it hasn`t. Hard to watch? definately. Valid to better your understanding and ability to do right? ESSENTIAL. Care in homes and the community has to be a loop of continuity of communication and ever changing needs, how far would you go to relieve yourself of life encompassed with nothing more than four walls and a regime of drugs, where no 1 seems able to care
sherigreig 9 months ago
That was the best thing i've seen in a long time! Thank you so much for uploading it. Helped me with my revision.
This documentary was the most influential turning point in institutional care.
steadyhandsunny 10 months ago
I am always shocked by this video, and have seen it many times, thank you for making it easier for me to access.
We still see insitiutionalised behaviours today, and we must remain aware of this as cuts are made which will, no doubt, affect the quality and amount of care which people who have the label of learning difficulties recieve. Thanks Again for raising the profile.
chloeBC1983 11 months ago
This is harrowing and eye-opening. How far we have come! I feel awful for the residents and staff in those horrific instututions and thought that the young man speaking in part 4 was spot on.
Ruthyphro 1 year ago
This was quite the eye opening documentary. It sure does remind me to be thankful for what life has granted me and my family.
hollyhandshakes 1 year ago
I used to live near Borocourt Hospital,my friends parents worked there. It was always a place of mystery and fear. We used to cycle down there as kids and ridicule these poor souls as they wandered around the grounds of the Hospital. It's closed now and is being turned into a large housing scheme (surprise). Just glad Medicine has helped the understanding of mental illness.
ucla4eva 1 year ago
I wonder if Borocourt Hospital is any better today? I hope it is! {:( Thank god they made that Beech Tree School!
watchensee 1 year ago
Surprised at how few people finished the whole documentary. I am a principal at an elementary school with a high population of students with autism. I can see many of the attention seeking and stimulatory behaviors our students exhibit before they come to us. To see our ability to throw away divinely created brothers and sisters is shocking. This is really heartbreaking to watch. We have come a long way since this time but we still have a long way to go.
pcknopf 1 year ago
Thank you for such a thought provoking post. It's terrible to watch. But at the same time it is heartening to see someone cared enough to film this and others found a better solution with the group home. We spend so much time worrying about the horrors in other countries when we do the same to our own children, family and friends.
sirensealight 2 years ago
in a nurseing home you are lucky to have a nurse and 2 aids takeing care of at least 23 residents. they dont think of how hard it is to take care of these people according to state we should be ok with that ratio but when most of those people need lotes of help it doesnt matter. all to save money it is never about the residents and the quility of care.
smileykisses420 2 years ago
Realistically you are never going to get a good ratio of staff to patient are you?,you get a good idea of the "esteem" the nurses were held in by the psychologists glib talk of "better staff",its easy to criticise isnt it?,i would imagine a 12 hour shift looking after poor souls like these would be extremely harrowing,until one inevitably got "hardened" to it.
spd47 2 years ago
I wonder if it is still the same now?
ImageSlayer 2 years ago
I still happens. Nut not to the same extent. Houses like the house for these children are commonplace but there are still the old stly "asylums" that exist and are basically glorified prisons.
ozisalegend 2 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Even if only a small number of paople watch it they will be made aware of the plight of people with an intellectual disability that still happens today.
ozisalegend 2 years ago 9
Sad, disturbing and outstanding. No political will to spend money on these poor people. This is unfortunately evidenced by the very low view count. Let's face it, population at large is content to turn a blind eye to the warehousing of our fellow humans.
oilpatchgirl 2 years ago 16