When this video started, the first thing I thought of was how saddlebreds are tortured by "soring" to get them to lift their feet high. But I see from another post that this is a natural movement of the hackney. I've never seen anything like it.
@earlymusicus I'm sorry but saddlebreds aren't sored.. i think they used to do that but not anymore because it doesn't lead to a nice even trot.. and a horse in pain isn't alert and doesn't use its ears properly.. they have to be born with it.I hear stories about it TWH trainers doing it everywhere. :( But no stories about the saddlebreds getting sored. I've recently done a lot of research about this stuff. Don't worry its natural. :)
@irise235 You don't hear about it because nobody is out looking for it because they're focusing all of their energy on TWHs. The fact thgat they're finding violators means that their inspections are working. Signed, somebody who has worked with both breeds for 15 years.
@SuperJuicebox89 oh :S i hope my old barn i used to ride at didn't do it. I don't they they did it but like its not like i was there everyday all day. Thats really sad though. I'm planning to become a trainer and start my own barn and I'm never gonna let anyone sore the horses! This kind of stuff makes me so angry. They should check all the horses at shows.
Hello, I remember riding Baron who was a famous hackney in his region, 16 years ago, and felt just one difference with other horses I rode: his suppleness. He was very easy to ride, and comfortable. Wouldn't it be possible to let some hackney's be ridden to stop the decline of the breed? Just wondering.
@tannamara Of course Hackney's could be ridden instead of driven. I said they were uncomfortable from a past expierience and honestly, I wasn't being fair to the Hackney breed. A friend of mine owns a horse, Cherry (Hackney) who can be ridden and driven and she has a gorgeous canter.
I think they are just beautiful. To whomever said that they thought these horses were sored, you don't know what you are talking about. A sored horse has a very distinctive movement. Check out some Big Lick TWH and look at the way they move. Hackneys are natural hugh steppers, it is something that is bred into them. I bet the foals move like this with little to no training.
@Simbabe54 Actually it takes years of training to get then to lift their feet... trust me i have trained Hackney ponies since i cant remember. by show standards best one in this video is at 0:51 !!! Amazing head set, ears forward, but down and beautiful high steps.
@Simbabe54 Walking horses are also natural high steppers. They, like Saddlebreds and Hackeys, are subjected to enhancement training. Also, you're completely ignorant if you think there aren't people in the Hackney and Saddlebred scene who are soring their horses because personal experiences tells me otherwise. The world is unfairly focused exclusively on TWHs when the same crap is going on in every other discilpine and probably in the same frequency.
@Simbabe54 Also, no the foals do NOT move like this naturally. Refining the trot takes years of training that involves the use of hock hobbles and stretchers. It isn't abusive but could appear that way to an outsider so don't try to point fingers at Walking Horses for doing the same things you're doing.
I like the horse, but despise that gneaghur music.
It appears to be a lot of lost motion in their showy stride. Don't they get tired if they go long distances? The Hackney used to be know for endurance, and ability to go 100 miles in ten hours. I can't imagine one of these going that far. Can they?
There like marmite you either love them or hate them I love them I own 4 and they are showey naturaly as we don't do any boots etc and the mule thing is a proper insult to the breed they are a very inteligent equine and people what think there highly strung just ain't good enough horseman they are bred especially for cairrage driving and a lovely animal!
@Pikapi02 Dont talk about stuff you dont know. Only TWHs are sored (and its illiagal). Hackneys, arabs, NHS, and saddlebreds are NEVER sored. They are breed to have great knee and hock action. They werent tripping either sooo.... ya
@dappledbaybeauty You dont, you breed it into them. You can inforce the natural movement by puttign a weighted chain or stretchies on during pratice to build muscle to maintain the great leg action, but It cannot be trained
Actually, this horse, at least in the last half century or so is bred particularly for carriage driving. That is their purpose, to be a high stepping, flashy horse to drive the carriages.
I agree tho...they would be beautiful ridden...I like their conformation better than that of the Saddlebreds I have seen.
I'm not surprised this is such an unpopular breed. It was meant for the saddle not for harness, and is not temperamentally suited to driving. I'd love to see these horses being ridden - and for producing mules - then maybe they'd be more popular.
@ZoeRPM They are of extreme quality and are acutaully used as show driving equines. Saying they should be bred to make mules is almost an insult to this amazing breed
Some rubbish being talked here about abuse. Hackneys have a natural high step and are bred to it, they are the projeny of the now extinct norfolk roadster.
In England 2 bits are used for driving a wilson snaffle (rare) or more commonly a reversible liverpool bit as seen here. They are sensible and gentle bits and excellent for driving in the hands of an experienced driver.
Indeed very beautiful, and a lovely video. This is what the crowd see, but not the methods used to get this spectacular trot. I looked at the remark about the hoofs touching the shoulder. There are not enough words allowed to be able to put it in this post. if anyone is interested I will write and explain. An afternoon with a friend who thought about using a Hackney as a stallion for his mare 4 hours I will never forget.
That's not always true. Use a sharp bit and no matter what hands controls it, it's still abuse. These horses are being forced into high stepping, keeping their heads and tail high. There's nothing natural about these animals.
Partly true; a really thin bit is severe, but a really thick bit won't fit in most horses mouths. Best is a fairly thin bit that will fit in the narrow mouth - and soft hands.
and in reply to comment about what giant bits horses have in mouths they dont cause pain , the bar that runs through horses mouth is the same as a riding bit !the bars are bigger on outside to be able to put reins through .
not everyone uses boots and chains to train hackneys , i show them myself and never use these methods of training , if you get a good horse it will have the action from start naturally ! i can always tell a hackney who has been booted !
@tweaknipps Good for you! Most use boots, chains, overly long hooves with clipped shoes, improperly adjusted side and overchecks, etc.etc,etc.I drive ADS-and none of this abuse is allowed. My cobs and morgans are shown completely naturally and they have beautiful, natural action, balance, and carriage
oh and another point too add to someones comment below the hirses head needs to be this way to increase shoulder movement if they didnt do this the movement would look awful
my grandads stallion is in this video hes the bay with the white splodge on his belly and white socks, his name is brookeborough flashjack..and yes they are naturally high stepping horses with some training to make the gait stronger and increase hock and fore hand action
I have a question. Is this gait a natural movement for the horse or are mechanical means used to manufacture it like so many Big Lick TWH and Saddlebreds? I am not trying to start a fight, I am asking because I honestly don't know. Thx
I don't do TWH; I do Saddlebreds. And the movements aren't manufactured. Have you ever seen a Saddlebred at liberty? Does the same thing... But training for the Hackney is similar. Chains for training, boots, and padded shoes; rarely stretchies and running W's because the Hackney just has that extreme movement as part of their conformation.
They're muscles are exercised from a young age to make sure they develop in a way that it makes it painless for the horse to keep it's headset like that. So despite what you may have heard from the mouths of individuals that dislike this style of equine performance, no it is not painful for the horse as long as they are trained in the correct manner.
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Kettil301 4 hours ago
what bit do they use?
Horseloversrox 2 weeks ago
Wow, I hadn't seen one in years! Thank you, fantastic! Amazing horses, they can do it all, look good doing it, and it's all natural. Lovely:)
AnimalLeftist 3 weeks ago
hey are nice but how they walk.. no, i dont like how they walk.. it looks like scare,d legs of my cat o.o
Cytjuh 1 month ago
When this video started, the first thing I thought of was how saddlebreds are tortured by "soring" to get them to lift their feet high. But I see from another post that this is a natural movement of the hackney. I've never seen anything like it.
earlymusicus 1 month ago
@earlymusicus Hackneys really do move like this, even in the field with the herd, a friend has one and she moves like it when she fancies it.
xXeMokiDXxMCRXx 1 month ago
@earlymusicus I'm sorry but saddlebreds aren't sored.. i think they used to do that but not anymore because it doesn't lead to a nice even trot.. and a horse in pain isn't alert and doesn't use its ears properly.. they have to be born with it.I hear stories about it TWH trainers doing it everywhere. :( But no stories about the saddlebreds getting sored. I've recently done a lot of research about this stuff. Don't worry its natural. :)
irise235 3 weeks ago
@irise235 You don't hear about it because nobody is out looking for it because they're focusing all of their energy on TWHs. The fact thgat they're finding violators means that their inspections are working. Signed, somebody who has worked with both breeds for 15 years.
SuperJuicebox89 1 week ago
@SuperJuicebox89 oh :S i hope my old barn i used to ride at didn't do it. I don't they they did it but like its not like i was there everyday all day. Thats really sad though. I'm planning to become a trainer and start my own barn and I'm never gonna let anyone sore the horses! This kind of stuff makes me so angry. They should check all the horses at shows.
irise235 6 days ago
Beautiful horses but very uncomfortable to ride.
TheJinxx100 5 months ago
@TheJinxx100
i always wanted to ride one... ;P
LOL12HORSELOVER12LOL 5 months ago
@TheJinxx100, @twizzinav
Hello, I remember riding Baron who was a famous hackney in his region, 16 years ago, and felt just one difference with other horses I rode: his suppleness. He was very easy to ride, and comfortable. Wouldn't it be possible to let some hackney's be ridden to stop the decline of the breed? Just wondering.
tannamara 2 months ago
@tannamara Of course Hackney's could be ridden instead of driven. I said they were uncomfortable from a past expierience and honestly, I wasn't being fair to the Hackney breed. A friend of mine owns a horse, Cherry (Hackney) who can be ridden and driven and she has a gorgeous canter.
TheJinxx100 2 months ago
Gorgeous
34Pippy 5 months ago
I think they are just beautiful. To whomever said that they thought these horses were sored, you don't know what you are talking about. A sored horse has a very distinctive movement. Check out some Big Lick TWH and look at the way they move. Hackneys are natural hugh steppers, it is something that is bred into them. I bet the foals move like this with little to no training.
Simbabe54 6 months ago 2
@Simbabe54 Actually it takes years of training to get then to lift their feet... trust me i have trained Hackney ponies since i cant remember. by show standards best one in this video is at 0:51 !!! Amazing head set, ears forward, but down and beautiful high steps.
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SuperJuicebox89 1 week ago
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@Simbabe54 Walking horses are also natural high steppers. They, like Saddlebreds and Hackeys, are subjected to enhancement training. Also, you're completely ignorant if you think there aren't people in the Hackney and Saddlebred scene who are soring their horses because personal experiences tells me otherwise. The world is unfairly focused exclusively on TWHs when the same crap is going on in every other discilpine and probably in the same frequency.
SuperJuicebox89 1 week ago
@Simbabe54 Also, no the foals do NOT move like this naturally. Refining the trot takes years of training that involves the use of hock hobbles and stretchers. It isn't abusive but could appear that way to an outsider so don't try to point fingers at Walking Horses for doing the same things you're doing.
SuperJuicebox89 1 week ago
Saddlebreds are supposed to have a natural way of moving, shoes and pads enhance movement but they can't put motion where none was before.
aurora103ful 6 months ago
Very very beautiful horses. I hate riding hackneys though. :p
bearbearbethany 6 months ago
Nice looking horses. This is the first video I've ever seen of Hackneys in their stride. Very impressive.
medicinelady20 7 months ago
Absolutely spectacular!! =]
TheEgyptianArabian 7 months ago
I like the horse, but despise that gneaghur music.
It appears to be a lot of lost motion in their showy stride. Don't they get tired if they go long distances? The Hackney used to be know for endurance, and ability to go 100 miles in ten hours. I can't imagine one of these going that far. Can they?
FirstClassSkeptic 8 months ago
There like marmite you either love them or hate them I love them I own 4 and they are showey naturaly as we don't do any boots etc and the mule thing is a proper insult to the breed they are a very inteligent equine and people what think there highly strung just ain't good enough horseman they are bred especially for cairrage driving and a lovely animal!
Simplygoodhorses 9 months ago
These horses appear to have been sored. A couple quite badly, they're nearly tripping over themselves. Shame, they are lovely.
Pikapi02 11 months ago
@Pikapi02 Dont talk about stuff you dont know. Only TWHs are sored (and its illiagal). Hackneys, arabs, NHS, and saddlebreds are NEVER sored. They are breed to have great knee and hock action. They werent tripping either sooo.... ya
herewefly 10 months ago
hey um beautifull movement how do you train this?
dappledbaybeauty 1 year ago
@dappledbaybeauty You dont, you breed it into them. You can inforce the natural movement by puttign a weighted chain or stretchies on during pratice to build muscle to maintain the great leg action, but It cannot be trained
herewefly 10 months ago
@herewefly thank you heaps
dappledbaybeauty 10 months ago
@frankie1159 no it is not it makes more saliva production and makes stomack trouble due to stomach acid
dappledbaybeauty 1 year ago
Actually, this horse, at least in the last half century or so is bred particularly for carriage driving. That is their purpose, to be a high stepping, flashy horse to drive the carriages.
I agree tho...they would be beautiful ridden...I like their conformation better than that of the Saddlebreds I have seen.
Calicat1994 1 year ago
I'm not surprised this is such an unpopular breed. It was meant for the saddle not for harness, and is not temperamentally suited to driving. I'd love to see these horses being ridden - and for producing mules - then maybe they'd be more popular.
ZoeRPM 1 year ago
@ZoeRPM DUH !
nags2bitches 11 months ago
@ZoeRPM They are of extreme quality and are acutaully used as show driving equines. Saying they should be bred to make mules is almost an insult to this amazing breed
herewefly 10 months ago
gorgeous horses!
rubyfruit17 1 year ago
They arnt trained like TWH they r trained just like the american saddlebred except there always behind a cart
mrsjernigan17 1 year ago
i see nothing natural or beautiful about this. you'd stab your eyes out if you knew how these horses were trained to get like this.
KoiaKiss 1 year ago
@KoiaKiss those horses arent trained thats their nature of the breed
MySamisbest 7 months ago
the dislikers suck and I love your video and those horses
Sims3fan2000 1 year ago
Some rubbish being talked here about abuse. Hackneys have a natural high step and are bred to it, they are the projeny of the now extinct norfolk roadster.
In England 2 bits are used for driving a wilson snaffle (rare) or more commonly a reversible liverpool bit as seen here. They are sensible and gentle bits and excellent for driving in the hands of an experienced driver.
NidStang 1 year ago
Cool vid! That one has a belly spot--hackeys can be splash white?
bladeofbattousai 1 year ago
super horses!!!
vassiladi 1 year ago
super horse
vassiladi 1 year ago
Indeed very beautiful, and a lovely video. This is what the crowd see, but not the methods used to get this spectacular trot. I looked at the remark about the hoofs touching the shoulder. There are not enough words allowed to be able to put it in this post. if anyone is interested I will write and explain. An afternoon with a friend who thought about using a Hackney as a stallion for his mare 4 hours I will never forget.
2baSelkie 1 year ago
Wow their hooves touch their elbows, the action is just great, always liked hackneys!
109367 1 year ago
I love hacknies-they are amazing
stokes885 1 year ago
@frankie1159
That's not always true. Use a sharp bit and no matter what hands controls it, it's still abuse. These horses are being forced into high stepping, keeping their heads and tail high. There's nothing natural about these animals.
Saartje05 1 year ago
Animal abuse.
Saartje05 1 year ago
Some people don't know that the bigger the bar on a bitt the softer it is on the mouth.
Thin bitts are far more severe. Yes you are so right frankie 1159, its how you use it that counts.
cancarum 2 years ago
Partly true; a really thin bit is severe, but a really thick bit won't fit in most horses mouths. Best is a fairly thin bit that will fit in the narrow mouth - and soft hands.
nanakla 2 years ago
WOW !!
StopLiesSeeTruth 2 years ago
and in reply to comment about what giant bits horses have in mouths they dont cause pain , the bar that runs through horses mouth is the same as a riding bit !the bars are bigger on outside to be able to put reins through .
tweaknipps 2 years ago
not everyone uses boots and chains to train hackneys , i show them myself and never use these methods of training , if you get a good horse it will have the action from start naturally ! i can always tell a hackney who has been booted !
tweaknipps 2 years ago
@tweaknipps Good for you! Most use boots, chains, overly long hooves with clipped shoes, improperly adjusted side and overchecks, etc.etc,etc.I drive ADS-and none of this abuse is allowed. My cobs and morgans are shown completely naturally and they have beautiful, natural action, balance, and carriage
srgodwin1962 2 years ago
oh and another point too add to someones comment below the hirses head needs to be this way to increase shoulder movement if they didnt do this the movement would look awful
MsDubsteppa 2 years ago
my grandads stallion is in this video hes the bay with the white splodge on his belly and white socks, his name is brookeborough flashjack..and yes they are naturally high stepping horses with some training to make the gait stronger and increase hock and fore hand action
MsDubsteppa 2 years ago
@MsDubsteppa Really?? Cool! I have seen his video on hackenysaregreat's channel!! Just type in his name in his uploads! :D
spiritgirl2796 1 year ago
beautiful gate
laila911 2 years ago
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these poor horses have geant bits in their mouths ...... pain , horrible pain
ottopasquier 2 years ago
I have a question. Is this gait a natural movement for the horse or are mechanical means used to manufacture it like so many Big Lick TWH and Saddlebreds? I am not trying to start a fight, I am asking because I honestly don't know. Thx
Smrobs84 2 years ago
I don't do TWH; I do Saddlebreds. And the movements aren't manufactured. Have you ever seen a Saddlebred at liberty? Does the same thing... But training for the Hackney is similar. Chains for training, boots, and padded shoes; rarely stretchies and running W's because the Hackney just has that extreme movement as part of their conformation.
marl0001 2 years ago
i love their movement one of my fave breeds x :Dx great video :)x
xoxnatsxox 2 years ago
First time ive seen this breed and i love them, they look so comfortabel and so relaxed...... do it so easy.
001jay100 2 years ago
I would like to see how these horses are trimmed/shod to enhance their gaits.
hippitor 2 years ago
can I just point out that if the horses were not comfortable they simply wouldn't perform to this standard...
InkyFairy 2 years ago
You don't know what your looking at, so assume the worst !!!
The horse is completly comfortable. The head is held this way to achive the high stepping style, hackneys have a natural ability for this gate.
Proper training perfects the motion that they have been bred for.
StopLiesSeeTruth 2 years ago
They're muscles are exercised from a young age to make sure they develop in a way that it makes it painless for the horse to keep it's headset like that. So despite what you may have heard from the mouths of individuals that dislike this style of equine performance, no it is not painful for the horse as long as they are trained in the correct manner.
XIXDeadGirlXIX666 2 years ago
none better!! surperb trotting horses
ladypage1024 2 years ago
Gorgeous!
Italianiceisnice 3 years ago
Great vid, what's the name of the song?
HendrewenPrince 3 years ago
thanks, the song is
"ain't no other man"
by christina Aguilera
twizzinav 3 years ago
Really exellent video, but don't like the music. (Sorry)
hackneysaregreat 3 years ago