Bullshit my amiga 1200 with an 1230/28MHZ Turbocard and 8 MByte Ram was playing MP3 without problems in a god sound Quality,Playing mp3 was never a problem for the 030's
I managed to play MP3's on A1200 with 030 50Mhz Blizzard accelerator card. I had to set all settings to LQ for it to smoothly decode in realtime. Previously without Blizzard card I used to decode MP3's to WAV in HQ using mpdecode utility. It took around 20-30 minutes but after it was finished I could listen to WAV's (with Play16) with almost zero CPU usage.
how much i HATED this interlace flickering on the amigas >_< commodore did SO much mistakes ^^ even the flickerfixer was not really able to fix the problem ... lock grainy/muddy all over the place... but: AMIGAS rock!
Are they sampled at 8 bit? The standard Amiga sound system is only 8 bit. Is the sound just down sampled or will it refuse to play 16 bit mp3s. 80kbs is pretty low, what is the sound quality like? I have an amiga 030/50mhz with fpu, does it use the fpu if available?
@rdv27 you might put that in libs: :) usually this resides in your System partition. Make sure you have the correct one for your CPU. Get the latest one from Aminet.
Workbench 3.1 supports 24 bit colour - over 16 million colours with an rtg gfx card.
It supports 256 colours in aga, even old ecs/ocs supports 32, depending on the screenmode.
This is all standard in 3.1. Of course, then you have the hacks that let you use Ham6 (4096 colours) and Ham8 (262144 colours) on ecs/ocs and aga without a gfx card.
What made you think wb 3.1 only supported 4 colours?! Even Windoze can handle more than that! :)
@rvounik quality is so wonderfull if you have good speakers and an earlie atari falcon revision with crystal codec onboard ... sounds better then my pc ... so i always listen mp3 on my 16 mhz atari ... soon 90mhz 060 speeder and 512mb
Too bad the ST's sound chip sounds like it was pulled out of an old 1979 Atari 800. Okay, okay it's better than that, but still very poor quality overall.
I prefer Amiga's sound. Also Amiga had the graphics blitter, and the 4096-color screen for viewing the pron.... er, I mean beautiful pictures. Very realistic-looking skin tones.
Agreed. The sound was pretty poor on the ATARI ST for models pre-dating the STe. However, from the STe onwards including the TT and Falcon it was much better.
What I really miss in nowadays is the thrill of the wonder lying inside the machine, really strong when using Amiga. My first computer was an Amstrad 6128 and for me it was something alive back then :) Now I am an embedded engineer but I still love them. Computers are still something of ourselves.
No No my old 486 dx can read mp3 and my old pentium 60 mhz i dont need a 75 mhz to do that i swear, and i know that the amiga os and hardware is awesome and good for multitasking but this is not the pupose for doing that just run a shit version of Win 95 seconde edition and it's work fine.
My Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 16MB RAM (no FPU) can play 80kbit 22kHz mono MP3s :) Use SongPlayer v1.53 and tick the "Force to mono" option on each MPEG-II option in the settings.
... and yes, that is without *any* delay/lag. If I do higher than 80kbps, it will lag. 96kbit works, but it lag/skips if the harddrive is working or if I move the mouse.
Hehe nice, although if you do get an 060 or 040 one day everything becomes much easier... although then you have the associated heat issues if you want to keep the A1200 in the standard case. Cool though, have you ever considered towering it with a mediator + other add-ons? Sometimes I really want to do it but then i'm not sure whether its actually worth it.
Yeah, thought about it.. Would be awesome :) Well, Amiga parts are heavily expensive. So I guess that won't happen to me... Maybe if I get myself a job some day (My education is quite low, so I'm stuck atm, hehe)...
An amiga 1200 with 4GB CF, scandoubler/flickerfix, 060 PPC, 128-256MB RAM, mediator + a neat gfx card would be cool! I dream about running OS 3.9-4.1 in high-res :)
This looks like amiga forever.... It`s a self boot linux cd that you can start with any 32/64 bit pc and run linux that completely emulates amiga machine and operating system.... It can work under Windows too....
Nope, this is Workbench 3.1 running on a real Amiga 1200 with 030 and 16MB, the machine now has Workbench 3.9, A 68060 CPU @ 50mhz and 64MB RAM, a WiFi card and 5-In-1 card reader :) I do own Amiga Forever though and its very good, although using WinUAE and starting from scratch can be much more interesting. Thanks for watching!
Can it? Hmm, probably, its not really about the architecture, its just more than its running a full multitasking OS, a GUI on top of that and playing MP3's all on a 50mhz CPU (that isn't even the fastest in its class -- I now have an 060 which far outperforms the 030) But if you can show me proof then that would be cool, i'd like to see it! :) (I was under the impression only pentium class 75MHZ or higher CPU's could play MP3's)
To show that its running on a real amiga 1200... never mind, yeah you're right the video is quite poor quality, I should have put that in the video description.
Well, my Atari FALCON 030/50Mhz can easily play STEREO mp3's - TRUE 44Khz/16bit sound. And with 640x480 VGA 16 BIT COLOR resolution, also i can still do easily other things with MULTITASKING.
Ok, but first i need to do some configurations. Hack Falcon to add S-VIDEO connector and then build PC for grabbing video from Falcon. I hope i could do this really soon. Falcon has 030/50Mhz and FastRam and running with multitasking environment. Prepare.
Well.. yes it was a big improvement and he doesn't have to upload a video as there is already one here in youtube: watch?v=9OZpn5BHwGo I also have seen an unmodified Falcon playing mp3s at high quality so yes he's telling the truth, still I don't like the stupid Atari vs. Amiga fights, its so brainless, both machines are amazing the Amiga shines in some things while the Atari computers do much better in others, both are amazing systems and its quite sad we don't have either around nowadays.
Finally! A person who makes complete sense! Despite always being an ATARI ST fan myself. I am now discovering the AMIGA OS and machines albiet through emulation, just to see what it was like on the other (dark) side. ;-)
WOW, and to think that even a 486 PC would have problems running MP3s... I think that for playing MP3s in a PC the very least you got to have is a pentium.
In retrospect a bad song choice, not one of Oasis's finest songs hehe... I chose it because it was small (I could only transfer files using 720KB PC-Formatted floppy disks at that point!)
my 030 @ 40 mhz can do it, too! it even runs mp3 up to 192 khz. but it sounds like the music is coming from a small radio. i was really fascinated by that, because all over the internet it was said that you would need a 060 for playing mp3 on a classic amiga without a sound card...
Yes, its a myth, although an 060 is much nicer (and you don't have to modify as many settings to get the damn things to play :) ) Thanks for watching! :)
When I got this far getting my 030/50 to run MP3's I had to upgrad my mig. It became a stonking towered 060/50 mother. Added a Z4 board, Picasso II GFX card, scsi CD drive, 100meg zipdrive, IO Blix card ect... She does MP3's @ 128kbps 44kHz and can also run .AVI's or .MOV's movie files in a window on the workbench screen at the same using MooVid.
Maybe? Try it, the 030 is an old processor (from 1989 originally) so its amazing that it can do things like this. At one point before I upgraded I could run an IRC client, a web browser with multiple tabs/sites and an IM client... quite impressive for a 50mhz machine with only 16mb of RAM... well IMHO anyway! :-D
The Amiga always supported long (32 character file names), you'd only need short 8 character names if you were running CrossDOS to ready DOS/Windows disks.
Actually you can play 128kb/s 44,1khz mp3:s on PC 486. It just have to be 486DX4 100mhz or 486DX4 120mhz. I have seen 486 doing that. In fact, one of my friends used to do some beat mixing on 486, with two sound cards and two WinAmps running simultaneous.
I used to have A1200/BlizzardIV030/50mhz too. Loved the machine. I regret the day I sold it. :(
yeah too bad but the quality wasn't put down here in the vid. thats the whole thing behind the mas player. it is a hardware decoder. it actually has nothing to do with the amiga hardware itself. just a parallel port extension. the amiga just sends the mp3 data to the parallelport and thats it.
the quality you could get without a mas player on a 030/50MHz machine ist mono sound with medium quality a 11khz...
and i should mention, that the mas player slows down the 030 system remarkably
Also theres no MASPlayer, this is the standard amiga audio!" - I made the video because 99% of people told me playing MP3's was impossible on an 030... I showed that it is possible albeit slowly... The best way to play them is directly from the shell... :-)
I still have my A1200 with a Blizzard 1230 MkIV. I did try to install AmigaAmp on it some years back, but I always got some error message. I'll have to give it a whirl again, just for the heck of it.
yeah.. sad.. hard to accept reality but reality is the machines are useless. Lovely to touch and boot.. play a few games but not much else. Now I just emulate everything... amiga,vic,c64,etc. Yeah but I miss the clicky floppy.
Oh I forgot about the clicky floppy *mists of nostalga roll in* I remember there was a patch or something you could get that would stop the drive from doing that. I'd love to have an amiga emulator upp and running, but getting hold of the kickstart images has proven impossible for me. For me the machine that has replaced the amiga in spirit is the ps3. I use linux on the desktop now, Window's just reminds me of all the crap that lead to the amiga's demise, or at least a part of it.
There were some titles which kept me longer on than on C64. Maybe thats about taste... About the mass of games, you probably are from the wrong continent to judge a system mostly designed in germany. (Except for the original lorraine concept) The C64 alone outsold the whole Amiga family at least by the factor 2.5. Even the Amstrad CPC outsold the Amiga 1200, 4000 and CD32 together. New C64 games are made still while nobody really does anything except demos and related stuff for the amiga.
Heh, I have a mac mini... Wish that could run Amiga OS 4... life sucks... :)... Amiga Inc is too bothered about its intellectual property instead of giving the fans what they want...! oh well.
If I could code, I'd make a program that could let you run AOS4 on your mac by tricking OS4 into thinking it's running on the Amiga ROM like those mac emulators for Amiga and ST. Ever thought about doing such a thing?
It would not be possible as Apple computers (And any x86 manufacturer by the way) run on a completely different platform, the Atari ST Macintosh cards ran very well on this machines because both systems had the same processor same thing for the Amiga hardware.
What is such a shame is that the X68000 line of processers didn't continue development. I recall that a x86 system running at the same speed of a x68000 system would run 25% slower. Infact, Leo Laporte said a while back that he misses programming on the X68000 because they were so efficient in comparison. Funny how things turn out.
Correct. I had been reading an article on the Sharp X68000 also known as an x68k which actually used a MC68000. So that is probably why I kept using the term x68000 cos it wason my mind. You know what though? I don't care! lol.
Since we are talking about the humble Motorola 68000, did you know that it is being made and used even now as an embedded chip being used for other purposes. I believe it it out sells most major cpus on the consumer market cos it is mostly used by industry.
I played mp3 on my blizzard 50MHZ 030 and i could play it at 22khz stereo. I tried full cd quality 44khz stereo but she was not quite up to the task, kept cutting out every few seconds. But i was really pleased to be able to play it on my trusty amiga. This rulez. Keep it up. :)
Heh, Thanks a lot... Hopefully wanna make some more miggy videos soon, need a better camera desperately... and some more kit... Im thinking of doing an A600 project soon, hopefully gonna try and network it possibly with a PCMCIA wireless lan card.
If you can do that with 50MHz and few floppies, just imagine what the Amiga could have done with a few GHz. The OS is still being supported, on other platforms.
Yeah, its supported by the PPC AmigaOne... Search youtube for Amiga OS 4 too see the power of the new amiga... its just as good as the old ones just with modern features. Hopefully new hardware that runs OS4 should be available soon, check websites like amigaworld (dot) net for more info...!
Thanks, dbalexamiga. I'd be interested in that. Ever since I started using Windows on a 286 I've totally hated this platform, it's been nothing but problems from day one. Bring back the fun in computing that's what I say :)
Anyone remember how you had to bend the 1200's casing to fit these little super-du per chips? The bulge in the case was a bit off-putting, but that was short-lived when you fired the thing up and watched it fly..40MHz was a heck of a lot back them ;-)
I remember having to bulge the case to fit a larger hard disk in, (I think the 1200's used to use laptop size HD's normaly) until some clever sod managed to get it to fit properly. Not sure how he managed it.
Yup, youd remove the 2.5 inch Hard drive cable, cut away at some of the metal shielding, then use an IDE cable converter and draw some extra power from the floppy drive. It worked really well, though some of the cheaper A1200 power supplies used to give up the goat if you had a nice 060 in there also. So just use a beefier A500 one and all good. The 3.5 inch drives were much cheaper and faster so it was always worth doing it. Failing that, I towered my A1200 so had a CD Writer in there too :)
if ur gunna go to the lengths of making your amiga play an mp3 , put something decent on!
thestrid82 3 months ago
Oasis, am I right :) ?
Super4Cod 6 months ago
lol you guys whip that amiga too hard, let it play Rick Dangerous and that is fine ^_^
tenkikun 7 months ago
Bullshit my amiga 1200 with an 1230/28MHZ Turbocard and 8 MByte Ram was playing MP3 without problems in a god sound Quality,Playing mp3 was never a problem for the 030's
rayluv77 7 months ago
Sounds like Digsy's Dinner. Oasis.
djdavedoc 10 months ago
I managed to play MP3's on A1200 with 030 50Mhz Blizzard accelerator card. I had to set all settings to LQ for it to smoothly decode in realtime. Previously without Blizzard card I used to decode MP3's to WAV in HQ using mpdecode utility. It took around 20-30 minutes but after it was finished I could listen to WAV's (with Play16) with almost zero CPU usage.
Those were the days! :D
videowatcheracc 11 months ago
Prayer 2.0 on a 68030 is a faster than AmigaAMP . For me works on ACA 1230/42 but with crappy bitrate. :(
sandlbn 1 year ago
how much i HATED this interlace flickering on the amigas >_< commodore did SO much mistakes ^^ even the flickerfixer was not really able to fix the problem ... lock grainy/muddy all over the place... but: AMIGAS rock!
sonicfire1980 1 year ago
Are they sampled at 8 bit? The standard Amiga sound system is only 8 bit. Is the sound just down sampled or will it refuse to play 16 bit mp3s. 80kbs is pretty low, what is the sound quality like? I have an amiga 030/50mhz with fpu, does it use the fpu if available?
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 It doesn't refuse to play it, it just automatically downgrades.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
hi,where do I put the mpega.library? sorry for being a noob.
rdv27 1 year ago
@rdv27 you might put that in libs: :) usually this resides in your System partition. Make sure you have the correct one for your CPU. Get the latest one from Aminet.
rvounik 1 year ago
Haha, you picked a song so bad it actually lowered the system requirements!
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
Motorola lost long time ago against intel,
BLOODYCLQ 1 year ago
@BLOODYCLQ Really? :)
rvounik 1 year ago
Falcon 030 is better
mynameisleeyesitis 2 years ago
@mynameisleeyesitis Amiga 4000 tower is better
janmansde3dede 1 year ago
@mynameisleeyesitis Sure, man.
rvounik 1 year ago
How did you get more than 4 colors on Workbench 3.1 ?
Snowwie888 2 years ago
?!?! Huh?
Workbench 3.1 supports 24 bit colour - over 16 million colours with an rtg gfx card.
It supports 256 colours in aga, even old ecs/ocs supports 32, depending on the screenmode.
This is all standard in 3.1. Of course, then you have the hacks that let you use Ham6 (4096 colours) and Ham8 (262144 colours) on ecs/ocs and aga without a gfx card.
What made you think wb 3.1 only supported 4 colours?! Even Windoze can handle more than that! :)
JasperAbraxxious 2 years ago
my 16 mhz atari falcon 030 plays also mp3s
atariteki 2 years ago 4
@atariteki I bet that sounds amazing.
rvounik 1 year ago
@rvounik quality is so wonderfull if you have good speakers and an earlie atari falcon revision with crystal codec onboard ... sounds better then my pc ... so i always listen mp3 on my 16 mhz atari ... soon 90mhz 060 speeder and 512mb
ram
atariteki 1 year ago
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my old pentium 90 mhz did also play mp3.... :)
baldriansfres 2 years ago
Look how far we came!
ibpointless2 2 years ago
I know !! :O !! I shot Mine 20 feet ! lol
wingnut4427 2 years ago
I used to browse the internet on my 1200 with 2mb of ram.
etuber21 2 years ago
My Escom A1200/030+CoPro playes MP3 too with 27Mhz (8MB ram) :P
The 1200 was a real good piece of Hardware (like the C64), but a little bit to late...
And macwhoelse: Nothing like a good old " My ST's better than your Amiga" debate...
I actually have both systems here: Amiga 500plus/020,14Mhz + 6MB(Turbo Version) and an Atari 1040STF...
If I have to choose one of these both systems (500 or 1040)... I would prefer the 1040 ;)
Don't ask me why... xD
Pizzaservice363 2 years ago
because of the leet function keys . that's why
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
Too bad the ST's sound chip sounds like it was pulled out of an old 1979 Atari 800. Okay, okay it's better than that, but still very poor quality overall.
I prefer Amiga's sound. Also Amiga had the graphics blitter, and the 4096-color screen for viewing the pron.... er, I mean beautiful pictures. Very realistic-looking skin tones.
harleykman 2 years ago
I don't like the Sound of an Atari too, but the MiDi-Port, "HDD"-Controler and some other things are really nice.
But that was only a comparison between A500 and Atari ST (!) :)
I love my A1200 thats a real good System, you can go to the Web, hear MP3, use Cinema4D... so on xDD
Pizzaservice363 2 years ago
Agreed. The sound was pretty poor on the ATARI ST for models pre-dating the STe. However, from the STe onwards including the TT and Falcon it was much better.
deepblue69uk 2 years ago
was the sound chip atari used, the same as was used in the ZX Spectrum?
m134mr 2 years ago
@m134mr No not even close. The Atari consoles and 8-bit computers used a self-made version by Jay Miner
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He then quit the company and created the sound chip for the Commodore Amiga
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harleykman 1 year ago
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Pizzaservice363 2 years ago
What I really miss in nowadays is the thrill of the wonder lying inside the machine, really strong when using Amiga. My first computer was an Amstrad 6128 and for me it was something alive back then :) Now I am an embedded engineer but I still love them. Computers are still something of ourselves.
dkaikas 3 years ago 3
By the way, are there PPC accelerators for the Atari Falcon available?
ballebanan 3 years ago 3
Sell AT and buy A1200
OldCaesar1 3 years ago 12
Yes, there are, and they are better from these from Amiga, but more rare.
CircusLem 3 years ago
@ballebanan No.
rvounik 1 year ago
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rvounik 1 year ago
No No my old 486 dx can read mp3 and my old pentium 60 mhz i dont need a 75 mhz to do that i swear, and i know that the amiga os and hardware is awesome and good for multitasking but this is not the pupose for doing that just run a shit version of Win 95 seconde edition and it's work fine.
Meteotrance 3 years ago
My Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 16MB RAM (no FPU) can play 80kbit 22kHz mono MP3s :) Use SongPlayer v1.53 and tick the "Force to mono" option on each MPEG-II option in the settings.
THROBiX 3 years ago
... and yes, that is without *any* delay/lag. If I do higher than 80kbps, it will lag. 96kbit works, but it lag/skips if the harddrive is working or if I move the mouse.
THROBiX 3 years ago
Hehe nice, although if you do get an 060 or 040 one day everything becomes much easier... although then you have the associated heat issues if you want to keep the A1200 in the standard case. Cool though, have you ever considered towering it with a mediator + other add-ons? Sometimes I really want to do it but then i'm not sure whether its actually worth it.
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
Yeah, thought about it.. Would be awesome :) Well, Amiga parts are heavily expensive. So I guess that won't happen to me... Maybe if I get myself a job some day (My education is quite low, so I'm stuck atm, hehe)...
An amiga 1200 with 4GB CF, scandoubler/flickerfix, 060 PPC, 128-256MB RAM, mediator + a neat gfx card would be cool! I dream about running OS 3.9-4.1 in high-res :)
THROBiX 3 years ago
@dbalexamiga I was sure I read that the 060 runs cooler than an 030. Isn't this true then?
nicholasthetaylor 1 year ago
This looks like amiga forever.... It`s a self boot linux cd that you can start with any 32/64 bit pc and run linux that completely emulates amiga machine and operating system.... It can work under Windows too....
misjahnner 3 years ago
Nope, this is Workbench 3.1 running on a real Amiga 1200 with 030 and 16MB, the machine now has Workbench 3.9, A 68060 CPU @ 50mhz and 64MB RAM, a WiFi card and 5-In-1 card reader :) I do own Amiga Forever though and its very good, although using WinUAE and starting from scratch can be much more interesting. Thanks for watching!
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
lol a x86 33 mhz processor can run a mp3 ^^ it's not surprised me ^^
Meteotrance 3 years ago
Can it? Hmm, probably, its not really about the architecture, its just more than its running a full multitasking OS, a GUI on top of that and playing MP3's all on a 50mhz CPU (that isn't even the fastest in its class -- I now have an 060 which far outperforms the 030) But if you can show me proof then that would be cool, i'd like to see it! :) (I was under the impression only pentium class 75MHZ or higher CPU's could play MP3's)
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
LAME VIDEO! Microphone does not show off sound quality, and whatever you keep ducking down from the screen to show... well, doesn't show.
Foebane72 3 years ago
To show that its running on a real amiga 1200... never mind, yeah you're right the video is quite poor quality, I should have put that in the video description.
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
030 was just about a fast 386, iirc, and the 040 was abotu evenly matched with a 486, so it's still impressive.
neglesaks 3 years ago
Well, it's 32kbit and 32kHz, and the acc even have an FPU. This is not jawdropping, but it's still a nice "proof of concept". =)
THROBiX 3 years ago 4
Yup, It does really struggle to play... its not "amazing" but quite cool :-D Thanks for watching!
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
Nice vid, but I have to say contrary to some of the comments here a 486 could easily play MP3's.
So could an Atari Falcon (1992), without *any* acellerators
tosgem 3 years ago
But the falcon has an 060 anyway IIRC? I replaced the card in the video with an 060, that can easily play MP3's, an 030 struggles though.
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
No, the Falcon had an 030 @ 16mhz standard. The replay routines I'm aware of played MP3's with the DSP chip, the CPU left free for other things
tosgem 3 years ago
Well, my Atari FALCON 030/50Mhz can easily play STEREO mp3's - TRUE 44Khz/16bit sound. And with 640x480 VGA 16 BIT COLOR resolution, also i can still do easily other things with MULTITASKING.
vlgtube 3 years ago
Can you post a video showing this? The Falcon would have to be a huge improvement over the ST to pull this off.
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago 2
Ok, but first i need to do some configurations. Hack Falcon to add S-VIDEO connector and then build PC for grabbing video from Falcon. I hope i could do this really soon. Falcon has 030/50Mhz and FastRam and running with multitasking environment. Prepare.
vlgtube 3 years ago
Well.. yes it was a big improvement and he doesn't have to upload a video as there is already one here in youtube: watch?v=9OZpn5BHwGo I also have seen an unmodified Falcon playing mp3s at high quality so yes he's telling the truth, still I don't like the stupid Atari vs. Amiga fights, its so brainless, both machines are amazing the Amiga shines in some things while the Atari computers do much better in others, both are amazing systems and its quite sad we don't have either around nowadays.
Ryoga2K 2 years ago 2
Finally! A person who makes complete sense! Despite always being an ATARI ST fan myself. I am now discovering the AMIGA OS and machines albiet through emulation, just to see what it was like on the other (dark) side. ;-)
deepblue69uk 2 years ago 2
Could you explain me please, how some IDIOT could give me a thumb down because my Falcon can do better than this?
I'm really impressed about some people.
vlgtube 3 years ago
Nothing like a good old " My ST's better than your Amiga" debate.............How I miss those days ! :)
macwhoelse 3 years ago 15
Nice Amiga setup by the way :)
macwhoelse 3 years ago 2
Yeah I miss having atari owners to laugh at!
hididdlyho82 3 years ago 2
So bad, i still have plenty of amiga owners that i laught instantly.
And my Amiga lauging with me.
vlgtube 3 years ago
@macwhoelse The debate is over since Atari finally turned out to be better and everyone agreed.
krbosak 7 months ago
@krbosak Nope.
doritostheking 7 months ago
WOW, and to think that even a 486 PC would have problems running MP3s... I think that for playing MP3s in a PC the very least you got to have is a pentium.
GR8TM4N 3 years ago
Thats not true. I ran MP3's on my 486DX40 just fine. :P
AmstradExin 3 years ago
Yeh, 486 can handle mp3s fine with the right software
PowerPcTricks 3 years ago
Just amazing...
ps. What's name of the song?
Newkiller 3 years ago
Digsy's Dinner by Oasis
honda1979 3 years ago
In retrospect a bad song choice, not one of Oasis's finest songs hehe... I chose it because it was small (I could only transfer files using 720KB PC-Formatted floppy disks at that point!)
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
my 030 @ 40 mhz can do it, too! it even runs mp3 up to 192 khz. but it sounds like the music is coming from a small radio. i was really fascinated by that, because all over the internet it was said that you would need a 060 for playing mp3 on a classic amiga without a sound card...
rocker11281 3 years ago
Yes, its a myth, although an 060 is much nicer (and you don't have to modify as many settings to get the damn things to play :) ) Thanks for watching! :)
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
When I got this far getting my 030/50 to run MP3's I had to upgrad my mig. It became a stonking towered 060/50 mother. Added a Z4 board, Picasso II GFX card, scsi CD drive, 100meg zipdrive, IO Blix card ect... She does MP3's @ 128kbps 44kHz and can also run .AVI's or .MOV's movie files in a window on the workbench screen at the same using MooVid.
AVIT!!! ;-)
F4O 3 years ago
Hehe cool, i'm running an 060 in this thing now... Hope to get a tower/mediator soon, its too hard to resist once you have an 060! :-D
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
I wonder if my old Mac IIfx can do that too.
Membrane556 3 years ago
Maybe? Try it, the 030 is an old processor (from 1989 originally) so its amazing that it can do things like this. At one point before I upgraded I could run an IRC client, a web browser with multiple tabs/sites and an IM client... quite impressive for a 50mhz machine with only 16mb of RAM... well IMHO anyway! :-D
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
it could. But you need to know deep inside knowledge ho to use the special features of the 2fx ;-)
AmstradExin 3 years ago
Amiga 4 life.
sugateddy 3 years ago
Mod's are much cooler
burnit2000 3 years ago 5
Damn right! :-)...
Makes me laugh that if I want mods on my iPod I have to convert them to a 3MB MP3 file... :-P
Alex.
dbalexamiga 3 years ago
Amen. MOD is the greatest sound format in the history of the universe.
TheNilvarg 3 years ago 3
With the classic "double height" problem of having an uninterlaced screenmode on a TV. Nice!
I also remember having to have very short filenames on my Amiga (for mp3s anyway).
oodatoodat 3 years ago
The Amiga always supported long (32 character file names), you'd only need short 8 character names if you were running CrossDOS to ready DOS/Windows disks.
techguruuk 2 years ago
32 characters really isn't that long. Remember that classic song "red hot chili peppers - unde.mp3" ?
oodatoodat 2 years ago
... it was a hell of a lot longer then what DOS could offer at the time though..
LoveDoctorNL 2 years ago 2
Thats old ffs, ofs. The newer file system support 199+ - sfs, pfs3.
JasperAbraxxious 2 years ago
Actually you can play 128kb/s 44,1khz mp3:s on PC 486. It just have to be 486DX4 100mhz or 486DX4 120mhz. I have seen 486 doing that. In fact, one of my friends used to do some beat mixing on 486, with two sound cards and two WinAmps running simultaneous.
I used to have A1200/BlizzardIV030/50mhz too. Loved the machine. I regret the day I sold it. :(
Arauhosi 3 years ago
Great song from the best band in the world! Mad fer it!!
fandelfinger 3 years ago
Great to see the Amiga alive and kicking but who needs mp3s when you have tons of brilliant modules!
Social8th 4 years ago 3
i thought the amiga 1200 ran at 14 MHz, is it using a different processor car or something?
mikeeb1984 4 years ago
Your answer is in the "About this video" section. Here it is again - Amiga 1200 with Blizzard Mark III 030 @ 50mhz.
gapenisbruzas 4 years ago
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I think i'll stick to the pc for my mp3's. The amiga is dead, but its ok to look at it for old times sakes.
chunder123 4 years ago
You can play MP3's on 486 and DOS to, you just have to drop down the quality a lot, like in this example.
cv643d 4 years ago
yeah too bad but the quality wasn't put down here in the vid. thats the whole thing behind the mas player. it is a hardware decoder. it actually has nothing to do with the amiga hardware itself. just a parallel port extension. the amiga just sends the mp3 data to the parallelport and thats it.
the quality you could get without a mas player on a 030/50MHz machine ist mono sound with medium quality a 11khz...
and i should mention, that the mas player slows down the 030 system remarkably
DefCEM87 4 years ago
Hey, I wasn't using a masplayer - "
Also theres no MASPlayer, this is the standard amiga audio!" - I made the video because 99% of people told me playing MP3's was impossible on an 030... I showed that it is possible albeit slowly... The best way to play them is directly from the shell... :-)
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
I still have my A1200 with a Blizzard 1230 MkIV. I did try to install AmigaAmp on it some years back, but I always got some error message. I'll have to give it a whirl again, just for the heck of it.
ballebanan 4 years ago
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new amiga... right u are a dreamer. Amiga 1 is dead, and the new Amigas are PCs.
helipilot727 4 years ago
Shut up.
R33Racer 4 years ago
You sound like a lame ass Windows user.
Schnitz1 4 years ago
Nope, just woke up and sold off my Amigas last year.
helipilot727 4 years ago
Isn't that waking up a little late??? I wish I still had my 1200 :(
maybeilltrythisone 3 years ago 2
yeah.. sad.. hard to accept reality but reality is the machines are useless. Lovely to touch and boot.. play a few games but not much else. Now I just emulate everything... amiga,vic,c64,etc. Yeah but I miss the clicky floppy.
helipilot727 3 years ago
Oh I forgot about the clicky floppy *mists of nostalga roll in* I remember there was a patch or something you could get that would stop the drive from doing that. I'd love to have an amiga emulator upp and running, but getting hold of the kickstart images has proven impossible for me. For me the machine that has replaced the amiga in spirit is the ps3. I use linux on the desktop now, Window's just reminds me of all the crap that lead to the amiga's demise, or at least a part of it.
maybeilltrythisone 3 years ago
Hi, i know you posted this a couple of months ago but if you still want the kickstart files for Amiga emulation, i can send them to you.
lastv8interceptor 3 years ago
Totally forgot about the NoClick Fix. I remember that now.
TheNilvarg 3 years ago
Play lots of amazing games, you mean... no computer (including consoles) has ever had a greater library of games than the 1200.
Although I could never get Creatures to run on anything but my 500.
TheNilvarg 3 years ago
You forgot about the C64.
helipilot727 3 years ago 4
Nope, the 1200's game library surpassed that by a longshot.
TheNilvarg 3 years ago
...by how many games? -3000 or what? :P
AmstradExin 3 years ago
What are you talking about? I didn't say a "bigger library of games". I said a "greater library of games" - as in "better".
However, more games were released for the Amiga than the C64 regardless.
TheNilvarg 3 years ago
There were some titles which kept me longer on than on C64. Maybe thats about taste... About the mass of games, you probably are from the wrong continent to judge a system mostly designed in germany. (Except for the original lorraine concept) The C64 alone outsold the whole Amiga family at least by the factor 2.5. Even the Amstrad CPC outsold the Amiga 1200, 4000 and CD32 together. New C64 games are made still while nobody really does anything except demos and related stuff for the amiga.
AmstradExin 3 years ago
had a 40mhz 030 do it before my miggy disintegrated.
jamithemad 4 years ago
Hey, Thanks for all your replies...!
Hopefully should be towering that setup & adding CD-Rom & possibly graphics card soon...
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
cool to hear Oasis - Digsy's Dinner on Amiga :)
JoeyJrShabadoo 4 years ago
Hehe, yeah, Oasis is (one of) my favourite bands ever.
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
I really wish my mac classic II could run AmigaOS T-T
RABBIDGamfan 5 years ago
Heh, I have a mac mini... Wish that could run Amiga OS 4... life sucks... :)... Amiga Inc is too bothered about its intellectual property instead of giving the fans what they want...! oh well.
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
If I could code, I'd make a program that could let you run AOS4 on your mac by tricking OS4 into thinking it's running on the Amiga ROM like those mac emulators for Amiga and ST. Ever thought about doing such a thing?
RABBIDGamfan 4 years ago
I'm not sure how feasible that would be..and this is a shot in the dark: how about running AOS4 inside a Virtual Machine?
JiggaJagga 4 years ago
Well, I kinda wanted to be able to use the full power of the machine, but I guess you could do that. *sighs*
RABBIDGamfan 4 years ago
It would not be possible as Apple computers (And any x86 manufacturer by the way) run on a completely different platform, the Atari ST Macintosh cards ran very well on this machines because both systems had the same processor same thing for the Amiga hardware.
Ryoga2K 2 years ago
I meant PPC macs.
RABBIDGamfan 2 years ago
What is such a shame is that the X68000 line of processers didn't continue development. I recall that a x86 system running at the same speed of a x68000 system would run 25% slower. Infact, Leo Laporte said a while back that he misses programming on the X68000 because they were so efficient in comparison. Funny how things turn out.
deepblue69uk 2 years ago 4
where is the X coming from? I think you mean MC68000
richardmaudsley77 2 years ago
Correct. I had been reading an article on the Sharp X68000 also known as an x68k which actually used a MC68000. So that is probably why I kept using the term x68000 cos it wason my mind. You know what though? I don't care! lol.
Since we are talking about the humble Motorola 68000, did you know that it is being made and used even now as an embedded chip being used for other purposes. I believe it it out sells most major cpus on the consumer market cos it is mostly used by industry.
deepblue69uk 2 years ago
yeah, they still make the 68060 at 100mhz I think. If only they would crank out some more accelerators...
Could you imagine what could be done with them? natami project is making a new amiga, sure, but think:
SEGA MEGADRIVE HD. That would be so awesome.
richardmaudsley77 2 years ago
I played mp3 on my blizzard 50MHZ 030 and i could play it at 22khz stereo. I tried full cd quality 44khz stereo but she was not quite up to the task, kept cutting out every few seconds. But i was really pleased to be able to play it on my trusty amiga. This rulez. Keep it up. :)
jimmystewart1974 5 years ago
Heh, Thanks a lot... Hopefully wanna make some more miggy videos soon, need a better camera desperately... and some more kit... Im thinking of doing an A600 project soon, hopefully gonna try and network it possibly with a PCMCIA wireless lan card.
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
If you can do that with 50MHz and few floppies, just imagine what the Amiga could have done with a few GHz. The OS is still being supported, on other platforms.
JiggaJagga 5 years ago
Yeah, its supported by the PPC AmigaOne... Search youtube for Amiga OS 4 too see the power of the new amiga... its just as good as the old ones just with modern features. Hopefully new hardware that runs OS4 should be available soon, check websites like amigaworld (dot) net for more info...!
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
Thanks, dbalexamiga. I'd be interested in that. Ever since I started using Windows on a 286 I've totally hated this platform, it's been nothing but problems from day one. Bring back the fun in computing that's what I say :)
JiggaJagga 4 years ago
I remember buying an 040 card (40MHz) and the PSU wasn't upto the task of running it, so I lent it someone who never bought it back. Worst day ever!
JiggaJagga 5 years ago
Anyone remember how you had to bend the 1200's casing to fit these little super-du per chips? The bulge in the case was a bit off-putting, but that was short-lived when you fired the thing up and watched it fly..40MHz was a heck of a lot back them ;-)
JiggaJagga 4 years ago
I remember having to bulge the case to fit a larger hard disk in, (I think the 1200's used to use laptop size HD's normaly) until some clever sod managed to get it to fit properly. Not sure how he managed it.
maybeilltrythisone 3 years ago
Yup, youd remove the 2.5 inch Hard drive cable, cut away at some of the metal shielding, then use an IDE cable converter and draw some extra power from the floppy drive. It worked really well, though some of the cheaper A1200 power supplies used to give up the goat if you had a nice 060 in there also. So just use a beefier A500 one and all good. The 3.5 inch drives were much cheaper and faster so it was always worth doing it. Failing that, I towered my A1200 so had a CD Writer in there too :)
onlineamiga 3 years ago
Amiga rulez!
ovsing 5 years ago
blizzard 030 50 mhz?oder apollo???
TaRaS1986 5 years ago
yeah its a blizzard not an apollo. The apollo cards tend to run a bit hot.
dbalexamiga 4 years ago
thats awesome! 50mhz music!
Kbiscu1t 5 years ago
Hehe, thanks, try doing that on a 50mhz x86 cpu... ;)
dbalexamiga 4 years ago