15 minutes out in the movie it starts to hear like New Age mumbo jumbo feel good shit. I mean seeeeriously. Be serious. I find it shameful that my fellow norwegians buy this crap.
Likewise you Johnnies out there might be concerned about your mere sanity. You might beware of deceptive messages created sophisticatedly by conspiratorial human fellows ? I laugh out louder.
Question is less What they particularly are but what they do to us. Mathmatics postulate eleven physical dimensions in the universe.What an extraterrestrial mind or intelligence could do to us we might not be capable to vision.So question rather would be what they do to us. What the.. do the signs mean ? Why where and when is a brave question then, laid on the wrong party, I guess.
Now I'm still skeptical of this mind you, but there still is convincing evidence. I see people saying "why would they travel light years to draw on our fields?" Well one, evidence suggests that they have been around for a while, and have been doing other things throughout human history. Two, they probably chose it because its the least threatening way, knowing how warlike and violent we are but thats just speculation. Look at all the evidence yourself.
Its funny how all the keyboard "debunkers" ideas of how the circles are made have less evidence than this video. Portable blowtorches? There would be obvious burn marks get real. Walking in a circle? A perfect circle every time? And managing to bend every stalk you step on 10cm from the ground uniformly? And I suppose they sprinkled radioactive material that they carried in their pocket on the circles too.
There is something going on here, its time to stop screaming PHONY at everything.
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Ey Jonny ! Man, finally somebody who knows everything. One thing was never really clear to me when they talk about modern physics. Do you have any clue what a potential electron is ? I´m so excited ! For sure you have some answers on that, no ? Let the ratio rule buddy !
I came across material before where people have made some of these, is that true? Are some of them man made? Regardless of what they are, they're incredibly beautiful and amazing!
@kahnival I appreciate that sentiment. Trust me, I would love to believe that this stuff is real and that there's more to life than the mundane world that generally greets us every morning!
@kahnival I know - but if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that man has always been creative - be it cave wall paintings, chalk hill drawings, lines on the...
@kahnival plains of Nazca, etc. Crop Circles are just another way of artistic self expression. I think we'll all have to agree to disagree. I've seen nothing concrete to sway me, unfortunately.
Um Johnny, so your saying that humans are gullible and will believe anything put to them without thinking rationally and an alien race couldn't be bothered with all their advanced technology, to visit another galaxy, because it's to far away.... yet this movie explains the rationality of humans and the processes that scientists have gone through to get to our current conclusion that crop circles are Impossible to make, even replicate, at such a massive scale and complexity in which we see in t
@kahnival I'm saying it's extremely unlikely Aliens are trekking 100 of light years just to make pictures in our fields. I'm sure they'd want to leave more convincing evidence of their existence.
@kahnival Human beings can be extremely gullible - just look around you in every day life. Most people do not rationalise or think about what they are spoon fed. Religion is a GREAT example of that.
@kahnival I'm not saying Aliens are not bothered to come here cuz of the distances involved, I am saying BECAUSE of the distances involved, it is extremely non-pragmatic to do so....
Aliens are here making savred geometry in crops and in ice and in the tops of tre cannopys. And aliens made us. Sumday you will awaken and see that you have lived ur life as a brainwashed sheep. Sumday soon the bubble you sceptics live in will pop. Loose the ego.
@4477waz I'm assuming this comment is directed at me.
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I'm merely pointing out how utterly unlikely it is, that aliens are flying here and making 'works of art' in the fields - a little far fetched, to say the least.
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When you apply logic and rationality to problems, you can 'usually' see the real 'picture' - no pun intended.
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I don't mean to rain on your fantasy parades, I'm only trying to point out the obvious flaws and highlight the erroneous 'leaps of faith' people seem to be making here
Let me ask you this Johnny... What do you think would be the best way to make contact if your goal is to very slowly open our minds first, before you actually show yourself if you were an alien visiting Earth?
Isn't it better to first draw the attention of a small group of people and then step by step have this group of people grow larger in order to open the mind of humankind as a whole? Using cropcircles is actually a very smart way to do this in my opinion.
I see your point and you put it across well and make a lot of sense... but somehow I just don't find it plausible that Aliens would venture all this way just to make art.
@NLPCPNL ...form, our location in our star system, a simple hydrogen and oxygen atom and logical, boolean maths. I would expect other intelligent life to do something similar, rather than...
@NLPCPNL been here, I will remain skeptical, as any rational-minded person would. Don't take what I am saying personally - everyone is free to believe in whatever they want. But crop circles are...
The UFO phenomenon is far larger than just cropcirlces. I didn't become a "believer" because of cropcircles. For me it started with the Disclosure Project, then the docu's
Out of the Blue, I know what I saw, The day before Disclosure, Black box recordings, Westall 1966, Zimbabwe School UFO 1994, Trumbull Ohio, lectures by Stanton Friedman..
... and please also watch the Black Vault John Greenewald Jr. lecture. It clearly shows the government is lying to us about UFO's. Also visit Richard Dolans website...
@NLPCPNL I, like you, enjoy watching UFO docus and I really do want to believe that UFOs are coming here... but unfortunately I have never seen anything concrete that can not be explained through...
@NLPCPNL I'm not familiar with that. I will look it up. However, I believe that people see what they want to see - show me some concrete visual proof, that can not be hoaxed or explained rationally...
I find it odd that you are so outspoken on the subject and you don't even know of these cases. The first part of science is doing as much research as you can and you clearly haven't been doing that. And Dr. Roger Leir has found alien implants he says that have been researched by prominent laboratories. These implants contain materials not found on this Earth, but serious scientists don't want to do any research into these supposed implants because they're afraid...
@NLPCPNL I've seen and read a lot of stuff over the years. Facts and figures are often cajoled and manipulated to justify the claims made. I lost interest in researching every single claim made, as it was the same old thing, just recycled in a slightly different guise. I came on this thread to highlight the fact that crop circles are clearly man-made and that people are having their legs pulled.
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People should exercise reasoning before excitedly jumping to rash conclusions. That is all.
If they are clearly man-made, how do you explain the lengtenth and exploded nodes of the crops? How do you explain the iron spheres found in the dirt of the circles? How do you explain bend crops that are upright for the first 10cms of their stems and then bent from there? How do humans make cropcircles that have a characteristic like that? How do you bent crop 10cms from the ground? With boards and ropes??
@NLPCPNL It's been planted by the perpetrators. All part of the elaborate hoax. Ask yourself this question: Why are all the crops radially flattened? Answer - by people walking around in a...
@NLPCPNL concentric circle, flattening as they walk. If they were made by 'aliens, then why aren't they flattened down vertically, as one might expect from a 'futuristic ray' or whatever it...
Ok so explain how the humans fool us by lengthening the nodes and having them explode and what technique do they use to bend the crops 10cms from the ground?
@NLPCPNL How about a portable blow torch or something and something to beat down the crops with - use your imagination. You'll find there is a logical answer for everything in this world. The problem is that one's own emotions tend to blind the zealous believers.
A portable blowtorch! Haha! Do you have an idea how big some of the cropcircles are? And how do you apply a portable blowtorch over a large surface area, without stepping on the crops and in that way destroying what you're trying to achieve with the blowtorch? I guess the hoaxers build scaffolds over the circle to prevent them from stepping on the crop that has been bend 10cm from the ground. And no cropfires when using a blowtorch???
And as always the skeptic leaves when the discussion moves to the part where I am zooming in on the details. Most skeptic explanations seem very likely, until you zoom in on the details.
@NLPCPNL As I said, you are free to believe what you want - you're having your leg pulled - both of them. But if it makes you happy, then what's the harm? You blindly refuse to look at facts logically; spurred on and fueled by your irrational emotions and blinded by the very same.
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The crops are flattened RADIALLY (by concentric movements) and not VERTICALLY from above, as one might expect. Hey, who knows, maybe the pixies are doing it and pulling all our legs.
Why do you say I'm refusing to look at the facts logically? I'm giving you the facts and you keep on ignoring them and keep coming back to the radial laydown of the crop. And you present aliens, if they would make a cropcircle, as having to beam a light down from above as a fact. Let's get back to fact of the bend crops 10cm from the ground. Explain that fact to me and don't just make something up that doesn't make sense like a blowtorch.
@NLPCPNL The crops were clearly flattened in a directional vectoring manner - nearly always radially - i.e. they were trampled down in a clearly defined vectoring manner. No 'spaceships' hovered over and flattened them - they were clearly trampled down. Maybe your little green men hopped out of their ship with rope and boards and did the flattening!
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I can't waste anymore of my time here. I'm a busy guy with a lot of work to do.
@NLPCPNL If you focus on the fact that there was 'scorching', then I put to you that a heat source was used by the hoaxers - nothing more, nothing less. A practical means of applying scorching, would be by way of a portable heat source - blow torch. More than plausible, I would say
Blablabla.... You obviously haven't even watched the documentary or you haven't been paying proper attention. Please keep your mouth closed and don't talk about facts when you're not even willing to research the facts presented in this documentary. You only like the facts that support your view and then you ridicule me by using terms like fairies and pixies. How scientific. Now stop wasting people's time and don't show up here again until you've grown up.
@NLPCPNL You are becoming tiresome and mildly juvenile. READ all my responses and you will find I have answered all your points - more than plausibly.
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You could spend the rest of the year scraping around , throwing silly 'questionable facts' at me, all of which could be simply explained away with ease.
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You dismiss my explanations in a true half-witted manner.
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You maintain that my simplistic explanations of this crop circle nonsense requires too much of a leap of faith...
@NLPCPNL ...on your part, yet you would have me believe that a group of Aliens, living 100s of light years away, power up their space crafts, blast into orbit, bend space and time (in order to 'cheat' the trillions of miles they would ordinarily need to journey to get here), with their super hi-tec gravity/space warping drives. Upon arriving here, the uber-intelligent Aliens then make pretty pictures in our fields, then fly away again. You make me laugh!
You've informed us a few times already that you are a busy man and that you have spent too much time already on this nonsense. So... when are you leaving?....
.. Or is your big ego preventing you from leaving? Someone needs to set us idiots straight right? I envy your supreme intelligence an logic. Eventhough you haven't...
.. explained anything and you keep sidestepping arguments made or even ignoring them. Then you say you do not ignore them, which makes you a liar. Please leave.
Hey dickface, this is tinfoil hat territory. So don't tell me to fuck off, you fuck off. I'm the idiot who thinks it's likely aliens are visiting us. You are the smart one so get out of our little corner on the internet asshole...
... it might damage their carreers. I wouldn't enter the UFO subject either if I was a scientist because of the ridicule. But to me it sounds you are hiding behind science. But please remind yourself science is a tool to help us understand the world. You are still allowed to also look at the softer evidence in the form of human testimony.
@NLPCPNL It is interesting talking to you but this thread structure is limiting by the number of character we can type. Also our threads are overlapping...
@NLPCPNL ...other logical, rational means. I will take a look at the docus you have mentioned. When I was younger, I jumped at believing this kind of stuff... But it wasn't until I listened to...
@NLPCPNL ...to hard-core logic and reasoning that I was swayed away from my driving emotions, which are human beings greatest assets and also their biggest enemies.
People were forced to dismiss and forget the fact, that we, our hearts share vibration with earth, and that earth shares vibration with the sun which shares vibration with galaxy and thus entire universe. THIS, our lives are just an experience, our bodies, are a vessel, like when you recieve info on your PC, you need PC to recieve info, that's sort of how our bodies work with the energy. It is an experience. Spirituality was replaced by materialism. Bigest mistake ever made!
ya and you know in 1647 no one was thinking of anything like this,so when they seen it,i bet they really didnt have a clue what the meaning was,i can watch things like this allday so cool,knowing something else,i think they send pure energy that like can shape anything around it material wise,or of any matter,don't know just makes you think and use our small brains.
it's the Arcturians who are making them and they can do it from their living room just like we control drones world-wide from the U.S.
One guy was in a field at night and suddenly couldn't move. He heard a voice say, "Don't move. You're standing in the middle of our ship." And then a crop circle was formed.
@infinitewobdrahpa I kept watching it, thinking it was a bird, but the figure is too bright to be a bird. I was in England (Mostly London, and east of it), in February of 2011. But I'd really like to go back, and drive around the southern part of the country.
@Pr3lude9 That looks more like a road in the distance, and what you refer to as a ball of light, looks more like a car passing down the road, so what you're seing is the top of the car!
@DooZooZe That's true, it could be. England does use a lot of compact cars, and that's one small car on that road. I can see it on his right side too, before it appears on his left. If you time it, it seems to be moving at a pretty steady rate as well.
i heard the footage that was given by this(maybe not his real name) john whaley was a hoax,look it up on internet.they talk about john whaley at about 0:54:00 .
People should use their braincells to analyze the data. Everything else is just prancing around the mass media - provided opinion. To "believe" in alien contact is really 19th century... Watch out !
It is funny that the argument "It must be alien beeings from another world." has more supporters than "It must be humans who have great skill in doing something like this stealthily." or "It must be an unexplained natural phenomena." ....
I was not much of a believer in the crop circles, I do believe in E.T's but after seeing this it has made me some what a believer. That alien head which actually had a code was amazing so was the alien code they sent back in response to ours 20 odd years before.
The only way for it to be 'man-made', I think, would be for it to be a computer program on a satellite, and beamed radiation from a laser, or with microwaves...Sort of like a laser Etch-a-Sketch, or Spyrograph. But the radiation is obviously in the circles, may be the reason that lady's tumor was shrunk.
We as the People could have a much more lively discussion if we would be more free to just easily Persume that we are not necessarily the top of the pops of the universe. Just persuming that there is intelligence out there who wants to tell us something, opening the eyes and see that something is wrong with us.. What we should do with dignity is to try to read the symbols in times like these for our society, Try to get something positive out. Science is the answer !
Where those mysterious signs come from, or who or what invested how much time in actually bowing the crop to the ground shouldn`t be the crucial question.
Would be more worth to try to find out or at least try to couch some of the ideas that the signs might represent.
The whole discussion seems to belong to a car magazine where people speculate how this particular car speeds up so fast. I think it doesn`t really matter.
Much more should be the question: What are these structures actually supposed to mean ?
First: in case they are man-made (try to find answers for each particular case of course)
Second: in case they are made by extraterrestrial intelligence (as well try to find to see any message in the symbols)
What could they tell us ???
Use your brain ! To my mind it`s rather ridiculus to waste ones time fighting about the big question weather or not is any advanced intelligence out there...
I think it must have to do with some kind of temporary manipulation of our planet's magnetic field, acutely altering the field (no pun intended) in a certain pattern, causing a mutation in the grass at a microscopic, possibly as micro as DNA level, causing them to grow an unatural direction at an incredible rate.
No doubt this is a result of some force with incredible energy, and an incredibly sophisticated manner of using it.
If there was intelligent life 'visiting us', I'd like to think if it was intelligernt enough to say 'hi' and introduce themsleves and not just make pretty pictures in the fields and then fly hundreds of light years back to where it came from.
A rather pointless and costly exercise, don't you think?
Have any of you 'believers' in Aliens visiting out planet ever stopped to think just how LONG it would them to get here?
Light, travelling from our nearest star, Proxima Centauri, takes about 3.5 years to reach us and that's travelling at light speed
I certainly believe that life exists elsewhere in the Universe. And I believe that there is likely other intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe... However, the distances involved would be immense, to reach us.
In this world, there is a logical and rational and often simple expanation to everything....
Crop Circles 'suddenly' appeared only in the last few decades... it was a hoax - nothing more... I am astounded at just how many people have been taken in by this nonsense
@ednagrimshaw And only in the last few decades have these 'phenomena' sprung to light. It's a fad which will eventually die out. Sorry to disappoint any believers.
@DangerousDan77777 It's not a case of my having to disprove this, it's more a case of you having to prove it. Subtle difference, I think you'll find. I think you'll also find that what you are saying to me is tantamount to my believing in a 'tooth fairy' and then asking you to disprove the existence of a tooth fairy. Let's be rational and polite here.
It always amazes me how and why people can get so offended and become so rude and obnoxious over beliefs which are solely fuelled by emotions
@jonnyridge3d I find your tooth fairy analogy to be laughable.
Maybe if we had a pile of teeth....and the teeth were not from a dentists waste disposal, and the teeth had signs of fairy dust on it. It would make yer analogy a lil more fitting. You have crop circles made with precision, that hasnt been duplicated by a human. If you can duplicate it, or anyone for that matter, ill say its not the planet, or something extraterrestial. Until then, its up to ANYONE to theorise as they see fit.
There was a documentary made, either for National Geographic or Discovery Channel, whereby a group of MIT students were filmed making crop circles under the cover of darkness.
The documentary does not appear to be available on YouTube for copyright reasons. You should purchase it online and watch it. You might see how easily you all have been taken in by these hoaxes
@jon Are you saying, that you believe that MIT students, are traveling all over the world, during school, during break, and making crop circles.lol....XD Making crop circles then never taking credit...accept in the ONE instance they did it for that TV special.
Yea, I have seen the show you speak of. They are addressed in this video. I guess you never bothered to watch it huh? I submit to you, that the only one being suckered here by hoaxes...is you. MIT students in 1697...XD thats a good one
@FreedumbFighter28 I am TRYING to show people here that CROP CIRCLES are NOTHING more than a hoax, as EXEMPLIFIED by a documentary featuring (AS AN EXAMPLE) some MIT students. It is an EASY hoax to PERPETRATE. All you need is some mathematical grid drawings and a plank of wodd and some rope - surely it's not beyond your comprehension?
For the LAST time.... ALIENS are not VISITING this planet. The DISTANCES involved are FAR TOO VAST.
@jonnyridge3d I never said aliens did it....but your MIT students travelling the globe during school, during break, and camping out and playing commando in the corn fields isnt a real good explanation. Besides, yer using a sock account....how can ANYONE take you seriously?
You wanna be rational....but choose to throw rational thought out the window when it comes to yer explanation. As in....MIT students travelled back in time to make crop circles....LOL. I mean really.....XD
@FreedumbFighter28 I am NOT saying MIT students are responsible for ALL the crop circles - I was citing, by example. Crop Circles are CLEARLY man (or woman) made.
Human beings have a history of playing pranks on each other and also expressing themselves visually, in the forms of wall or cave paintings, etc. or by creating 'pretty pictures' in fields.
Look at the Plains of Nazca - same thing, only no fields of wheat.
@jonnyridge3d So....Crop Circles have been made for hahas for hundreds of yrs....I suppose the OLD crop circles that the indians catalogued were made by students from cambridge who traveled the ocean for 3 months to..uh....make crop circles. Amazing they had the time to do that considering most people were to busy avoiding wolves, and just trying to survive past 30. But hey....why not.
Cave paintings were made as a prank? Not to convey a message?...and shaving mountains....mmmhhh...wow
@FreedumbFighter28 Read what I said. Why are you still mentioning MIT students going all over the world or back in time? Are you taking the piss, or are you serious?
Read and understand what I have written - this is a joke...
And at no point did I imply that cave drawings were done as a prank. Re-read.
You are FREE to believe that 'magical forces' are responsible for Crop Circles. Crop Circles are human made EITHER as a means of self expression, or done as a prank.
@jonnyridge3d No...I think you should read what I said....I said CAMBRIDGE...as MIT was not around yet. Why would INDIANS, who have zero connection to england, where crop circles were happening, make crop circles of there own? Maybe students from cambidge took a 3 month long boat trip,then decided to make crop circles in america? Im just trying to follow yer logic here.Or perhaps..INDIANS went to ENGLAND?0-o?? And if this is all true,why would the military care at all?? Wasted tax dollars huh
@jonnyridge3d This video addresses the people who make crop circles. Its not as though they keep them secret or pretend they do not exist. You want people to stop believing in aliens, Or physics not yet understood? Fact is,when presented with your own theory,you bail and call it ridiculous. lol...thats very telling. Im all for saying ITS ALL HUMANS,but why would humans from different cultures, make the same circles but not look for cred? You just dont have the answers...so stop pretending you do
@jonnyridge3d So the pyramids werent built by humans cause we cant build them now? Now i know thats a straw man....but hear me out. You say MAN made crop circles, All over the world, in different cultures for Hundreds of years and rather than saying they did it,they said elves,ufos, earth ect ect did it....UNTIL,some students from MIT made a crop circle...and now the mystery is solved? Well,when are we gonna build a pyramid to shut those guys up as well..for Pyramids cant be built by us...XD
@jonnyridge3d So you watched a documentary that shows it was a hoax? How about that documentary is a hoax it self to throw closedminded imbeciles like you in dark, which is obviously working. Get the fuck out, just because you didn't see anything doesn't mean it isn't there.
@DooZooZe Listen carefully fuck-wit... Aliens are NOT visiting this planet and making pretty pictures in our fields - use your fucking diminutive brain and you might figure out why...
Have you ANY idea of the DISTANCES involved to travel here from another star??? It would take about 3 years to get here from the NEAREST star, travelling at the speed of light - if there is intelligent life capable of interstellar travel, it is most likely hundreds of light years away.
@jonnyridge3d You got nothing to say to me you closedminded fucking bitch. Go back living in a science ''BOX'' and blindly following popular thought like a good sheep you are. YOU fucking dick, and the rest of your crawlers aren't going any fucking place. Exacly because of the reason, you described in that last pile of shit you call a post. It's as usual a '*WASTE'' of time replying to a brainwashed retards like you, who TRUELY live in imprisoned dream world! Retard!
If you bury your head in the sand and turn a blind eye to mathematics and physics, (the 'mechanics' that shape, define, dictate and control the physical world and universe that we live in), then you are an even larger fuck-wit than I had initially given you credit for being.
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You ridicule science and physics, the very mechanisms which enables you to log on to the internet and air your limited 'intellect' - do you see the irony here?
Come on man... We already know warpdrives and wormholes are possible theoretically. We just need a power source that enables us to use the technology necessary to make these things a reality.
@NLPCPNL I agree 100% with you. However, theory is one thing; practice is another. But, if there is an alien race with the intelligence to build such a technology to enable them to travel 'faster' than light speed, do you really think that they would make such an arduous journey to our planet, just to draw pictures in our fields?
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I would like to think that if they have the intelligence to make it to Earth, that they would also have the intelligence to 'call in' and and say hi, here we are.
Who are we to say a journey like that would be arduous? 50 years ago travelling to Australia from Europe was arduous, now it's a relative breeze.
And making themselves known to us to openly could cause major panic amongst humans. WE are the top predator in the universe, WE run things, WE are boss. And when suddenly a superior technological race stands on our doorstep, we will be confronted with fear. This fear is actually healthy because any animal that doesn't..
@NLPCPNL Bending space and time surely has to be quite a feat in itself, not to mention blasting off into space. I think there are better ways for intelligent life to make itself know to us than..
.. have fear for a stronger animal, will not be very successful. When confronted with a superior intelligence from another world, we will have feelings similar to wild animals that are confronted with a bigger animal. We will not be "tame" to these aliens from the get go, that's just build into our DNA. We will be very cautious and intelligent aliens will know this and keep this in mind. Very slowly opening our minds is the best strategy for contact.
A 'failing' of human-beings is that they generally are FAR too emotional and gullible. In the case of Crop Cirlcles and 'other phenomina', people believe simply what they want to believe becuase it's 'mysterious' and 'wondrous' and 'exciting'.
When people blindly believe or follow something, without ever exercising and real hard-core logic or reasoning, it is a very irresponsible practice, as we see with the likes of religion and ALL the problems that has created over the millenia.
A problem in this world is that FAR too many people jump to illogical, irrational, emotional conclusions, WITHOUT really stopping to give any real thought to what it is they desperately want to believe in...
@DangerousDan77777 The onus is not on me to disprove this. Detach yourself from your emotions and apply some rationality and reasoning to matters in future. You'll find you'll go further in life. Good luck.
@DangerousDan77777 A wonderfully insightful, intelligent, pragmatic and erudite response. Well done. Your responses certainly have blown away my reasoning and my approach. I bow to your greater wisdom... (Sarcasm, in case you haven't twigged it)
Marvellous ! Astonished !! Unbelievable !!! There are Three Words about the Existence of our knowledge : 01) Unknown 02) Known 03) Unknowable Something we don't know is Unknown One day or other it will be Known . There is the time factor only , Which decides Between Unknown and Known But Something we don't know , And will never know This is Unknowable. Please decide where we are ?
Awesome video! There are many aspects of the genuine crop circles that absolutely could not be done by human pranksters overnight in the dark,or even at all,like expulsion cavities throughout at nodes partially up the stalks..like ground water disturbances under the crop circles..like residual, detectible energies.With the number of stars with planets we're finding now, and vast number of galaxies we've found..it would be totally arrogant for us to assume we're the only life,or intelligent life.
I saw something when the in one of the tsunami videos. The guy who filmed it noted a very fast moving object moving unperturbed by the current. It's movement was much similar to the ball of lights energy of movement. Would be nice for someone to look at this.
The light burning in the bush, doesn't that sound a lot like 'the burning bush' in the bible as well. I think that all of this, to me anyway, is encouraging!
As nobody has got even close to making one of the more complex ones, even in full daylight for days on end it seems there is a lot to this,
For closed minded people it is very easy to dismiss, just hear some hippy type talk or new age mumbo jumbo ,,,,,and stop listening.
Heaven forbid you actually think about it for yourself, never mind who else is thinking about it.
Anybody who is not intrigued is just a little bit dull, and anybody who thinks they are all hoaxes simply can't think very well.
MrRobtwothirds 2 days ago
15 minutes out in the movie it starts to hear like New Age mumbo jumbo feel good shit. I mean seeeeriously. Be serious. I find it shameful that my fellow norwegians buy this crap.
Faerlon123 2 days ago
No wonder why they all in England. Brits are the greatest trolls in history.
Faerlon123 2 days ago
I love crop circles they look awesome. But it's ridiculous to jump to conclusions. Uphold belief untill there's enough evidence.
Faerlon123 2 days ago
@Faerlon123 Go back to sleep..
MrPoohey78 2 days ago
@MrPoohey78 What a tremendously useful statement.
Faerlon123 2 days ago
we have look at it square in the face(circle)
ayanimeya 3 days ago
Likewise you Johnnies out there might be concerned about your mere sanity. You might beware of deceptive messages created sophisticatedly by conspiratorial human fellows ? I laugh out louder.
Scopeidium 4 days ago
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Question is less What they particularly are but what they do to us. Mathmatics postulate eleven physical dimensions in the universe.What an extraterrestrial mind or intelligence could do to us we might not be capable to vision.So question rather would be what they do to us. What the.. do the signs mean ? Why where and when is a brave question then, laid on the wrong party, I guess.
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Now I'm still skeptical of this mind you, but there still is convincing evidence. I see people saying "why would they travel light years to draw on our fields?" Well one, evidence suggests that they have been around for a while, and have been doing other things throughout human history. Two, they probably chose it because its the least threatening way, knowing how warlike and violent we are but thats just speculation. Look at all the evidence yourself.
oXGenesisXo 5 days ago
Its funny how all the keyboard "debunkers" ideas of how the circles are made have less evidence than this video. Portable blowtorches? There would be obvious burn marks get real. Walking in a circle? A perfect circle every time? And managing to bend every stalk you step on 10cm from the ground uniformly? And I suppose they sprinkled radioactive material that they carried in their pocket on the circles too.
There is something going on here, its time to stop screaming PHONY at everything.
oXGenesisXo 5 days ago 2
@oXGenesisXo why do they only appear in uk? and only in recent years?
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mouse5752 6 days ago
Ey Jonny ! Man, finally somebody who knows everything. One thing was never really clear to me when they talk about modern physics. Do you have any clue what a potential electron is ? I´m so excited ! For sure you have some answers on that, no ? Let the ratio rule buddy !
Scopeidium 1 week ago
blowin my mind!
wtfidk22 1 week ago
Thumbs up who loves Michael Glickman!
benthejrporter 1 week ago
What a fantastic documentary! Thanks. Let's hope we get some good crop circles this year.
benthejrporter 1 week ago
I came across material before where people have made some of these, is that true? Are some of them man made? Regardless of what they are, they're incredibly beautiful and amazing!
axolotlmafia 1 week ago
well johnny, i have to give you credit for standing up for what you believe in, whether its right or wrong....
kahnival 1 week ago
@kahnival I appreciate that sentiment. Trust me, I would love to believe that this stuff is real and that there's more to life than the mundane world that generally greets us every morning!
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
Johnny there has been other evidence over thousands of years, just watch ancient aliens...
kahnival 1 week ago
@kahnival I know - but if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that man has always been creative - be it cave wall paintings, chalk hill drawings, lines on the...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@kahnival plains of Nazca, etc. Crop Circles are just another way of artistic self expression. I think we'll all have to agree to disagree. I've seen nothing concrete to sway me, unfortunately.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
Um Johnny, so your saying that humans are gullible and will believe anything put to them without thinking rationally and an alien race couldn't be bothered with all their advanced technology, to visit another galaxy, because it's to far away.... yet this movie explains the rationality of humans and the processes that scientists have gone through to get to our current conclusion that crop circles are Impossible to make, even replicate, at such a massive scale and complexity in which we see in t
kahnival 1 week ago
@kahnival I'm saying it's extremely unlikely Aliens are trekking 100 of light years just to make pictures in our fields. I'm sure they'd want to leave more convincing evidence of their existence.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@kahnival Look, crop circles are quite easy to make and make without leaving any traces. It's not rocket science.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@kahnival Human beings can be extremely gullible - just look around you in every day life. Most people do not rationalise or think about what they are spoon fed. Religion is a GREAT example of that.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@kahnival I'm not saying Aliens are not bothered to come here cuz of the distances involved, I am saying BECAUSE of the distances involved, it is extremely non-pragmatic to do so....
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@kahnival ...especially if their sole purpose is MERELY to make pictures in crops. The term 'overkill' seems to spring to mind here.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
What the hell is that thing in the sky at 26:26???
kahnival 1 week ago
Aliens are here making savred geometry in crops and in ice and in the tops of tre cannopys. And aliens made us. Sumday you will awaken and see that you have lived ur life as a brainwashed sheep. Sumday soon the bubble you sceptics live in will pop. Loose the ego.
4477waz 1 week ago
@4477waz I'm assuming this comment is directed at me.
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I'm merely pointing out how utterly unlikely it is, that aliens are flying here and making 'works of art' in the fields - a little far fetched, to say the least.
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When you apply logic and rationality to problems, you can 'usually' see the real 'picture' - no pun intended.
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I don't mean to rain on your fantasy parades, I'm only trying to point out the obvious flaws and highlight the erroneous 'leaps of faith' people seem to be making here
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Let me ask you this Johnny... What do you think would be the best way to make contact if your goal is to very slowly open our minds first, before you actually show yourself if you were an alien visiting Earth?
Isn't it better to first draw the attention of a small group of people and then step by step have this group of people grow larger in order to open the mind of humankind as a whole? Using cropcircles is actually a very smart way to do this in my opinion.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
I see your point and you put it across well and make a lot of sense... but somehow I just don't find it plausible that Aliens would venture all this way just to make art.
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Why not leave concrete...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...evidence of their actual existence, rather than leaving marks in crops which can easily be hoaxed by humans.
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When we launched Voyager 1, we sent with it a plaque showing the human...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...form, our location in our star system, a simple hydrogen and oxygen atom and logical, boolean maths. I would expect other intelligent life to do something similar, rather than...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...making crop circles, which prove absolutely nothing, whatsoever.
As I said, believing in this kind of stuff is harmless, but until I see definitive evidence of intelligent life having...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL been here, I will remain skeptical, as any rational-minded person would. Don't take what I am saying personally - everyone is free to believe in whatever they want. But crop circles are...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...not proof at all that Aliens are visiting us.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
The UFO phenomenon is far larger than just cropcirlces. I didn't become a "believer" because of cropcircles. For me it started with the Disclosure Project, then the docu's
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Out of the Blue, I know what I saw, The day before Disclosure, Black box recordings, Westall 1966, Zimbabwe School UFO 1994, Trumbull Ohio, lectures by Stanton Friedman..
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
... and please also watch the Black Vault John Greenewald Jr. lecture. It clearly shows the government is lying to us about UFO's. Also visit Richard Dolans website...
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
... to see 10 of the most important government documents on UFO's. Everything taken together makes a strong case for ET's visiting Earth.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I, like you, enjoy watching UFO docus and I really do want to believe that UFOs are coming here... but unfortunately I have never seen anything concrete that can not be explained through...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
What is your explanation then for the Trumbull Ohio and for Zimbabwe Ariel school sightings?
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I'm not familiar with that. I will look it up. However, I believe that people see what they want to see - show me some concrete visual proof, that can not be hoaxed or explained rationally...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
I find it odd that you are so outspoken on the subject and you don't even know of these cases. The first part of science is doing as much research as you can and you clearly haven't been doing that. And Dr. Roger Leir has found alien implants he says that have been researched by prominent laboratories. These implants contain materials not found on this Earth, but serious scientists don't want to do any research into these supposed implants because they're afraid...
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I've seen and read a lot of stuff over the years. Facts and figures are often cajoled and manipulated to justify the claims made. I lost interest in researching every single claim made, as it was the same old thing, just recycled in a slightly different guise. I came on this thread to highlight the fact that crop circles are clearly man-made and that people are having their legs pulled.
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People should exercise reasoning before excitedly jumping to rash conclusions. That is all.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
If they are clearly man-made, how do you explain the lengtenth and exploded nodes of the crops? How do you explain the iron spheres found in the dirt of the circles? How do you explain bend crops that are upright for the first 10cms of their stems and then bent from there? How do humans make cropcircles that have a characteristic like that? How do you bent crop 10cms from the ground? With boards and ropes??
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL It's been planted by the perpetrators. All part of the elaborate hoax. Ask yourself this question: Why are all the crops radially flattened? Answer - by people walking around in a...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL concentric circle, flattening as they walk. If they were made by 'aliens, then why aren't they flattened down vertically, as one might expect from a 'futuristic ray' or whatever it...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Ok so explain how the humans fool us by lengthening the nodes and having them explode and what technique do they use to bend the crops 10cms from the ground?
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL How about a portable blow torch or something and something to beat down the crops with - use your imagination. You'll find there is a logical answer for everything in this world. The problem is that one's own emotions tend to blind the zealous believers.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
A portable blowtorch! Haha! Do you have an idea how big some of the cropcircles are? And how do you apply a portable blowtorch over a large surface area, without stepping on the crops and in that way destroying what you're trying to achieve with the blowtorch? I guess the hoaxers build scaffolds over the circle to prevent them from stepping on the crop that has been bend 10cm from the ground. And no cropfires when using a blowtorch???
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I've already given far too much of my time to this thread. Good luck in life and I hope you find what you're looking for.
Jonny
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
And as always the skeptic leaves when the discussion moves to the part where I am zooming in on the details. Most skeptic explanations seem very likely, until you zoom in on the details.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL As I said, you are free to believe what you want - you're having your leg pulled - both of them. But if it makes you happy, then what's the harm? You blindly refuse to look at facts logically; spurred on and fueled by your irrational emotions and blinded by the very same.
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The crops are flattened RADIALLY (by concentric movements) and not VERTICALLY from above, as one might expect. Hey, who knows, maybe the pixies are doing it and pulling all our legs.
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jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Why do you say I'm refusing to look at the facts logically? I'm giving you the facts and you keep on ignoring them and keep coming back to the radial laydown of the crop. And you present aliens, if they would make a cropcircle, as having to beam a light down from above as a fact. Let's get back to fact of the bend crops 10cm from the ground. Explain that fact to me and don't just make something up that doesn't make sense like a blowtorch.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I'm bored.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL The crops were clearly flattened in a directional vectoring manner - nearly always radially - i.e. they were trampled down in a clearly defined vectoring manner. No 'spaceships' hovered over and flattened them - they were clearly trampled down. Maybe your little green men hopped out of their ship with rope and boards and did the flattening!
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I can't waste anymore of my time here. I'm a busy guy with a lot of work to do.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL If you focus on the fact that there was 'scorching', then I put to you that a heat source was used by the hoaxers - nothing more, nothing less. A practical means of applying scorching, would be by way of a portable heat source - blow torch. More than plausible, I would say
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Blablabla.... You obviously haven't even watched the documentary or you haven't been paying proper attention. Please keep your mouth closed and don't talk about facts when you're not even willing to research the facts presented in this documentary. You only like the facts that support your view and then you ridicule me by using terms like fairies and pixies. How scientific. Now stop wasting people's time and don't show up here again until you've grown up.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL You are becoming tiresome and mildly juvenile. READ all my responses and you will find I have answered all your points - more than plausibly.
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You could spend the rest of the year scraping around , throwing silly 'questionable facts' at me, all of which could be simply explained away with ease.
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You dismiss my explanations in a true half-witted manner.
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You maintain that my simplistic explanations of this crop circle nonsense requires too much of a leap of faith...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...on your part, yet you would have me believe that a group of Aliens, living 100s of light years away, power up their space crafts, blast into orbit, bend space and time (in order to 'cheat' the trillions of miles they would ordinarily need to journey to get here), with their super hi-tec gravity/space warping drives. Upon arriving here, the uber-intelligent Aliens then make pretty pictures in our fields, then fly away again. You make me laugh!
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
You've informed us a few times already that you are a busy man and that you have spent too much time already on this nonsense. So... when are you leaving?....
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
.. Or is your big ego preventing you from leaving? Someone needs to set us idiots straight right? I envy your supreme intelligence an logic. Eventhough you haven't...
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
.. explained anything and you keep sidestepping arguments made or even ignoring them. Then you say you do not ignore them, which makes you a liar. Please leave.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL Will you fuck off and take your fucking one sided mind with you!!
MelinDeSilva000 5 days ago
@MelinDeSilva000
Hey dickface, this is tinfoil hat territory. So don't tell me to fuck off, you fuck off. I'm the idiot who thinks it's likely aliens are visiting us. You are the smart one so get out of our little corner on the internet asshole...
NLPCPNL 4 days ago
@NLPCPNL ... is you people claim it is...
There is a lot of pseudo-science nonsense here and honestly, this is starting to bore me now.
Believe what you will.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I am aware of the cases you speak of, just not aware of what they are known as, or referred to as.
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@jonnyridge3d
... it might damage their carreers. I wouldn't enter the UFO subject either if I was a scientist because of the ridicule. But to me it sounds you are hiding behind science. But please remind yourself science is a tool to help us understand the world. You are still allowed to also look at the softer evidence in the form of human testimony.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL It is interesting talking to you but this thread structure is limiting by the number of character we can type. Also our threads are overlapping...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL You seem very informative and interesting to talk to. Is there a way to contact you? We can continue to moot this subject elsewhere?
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...other logical, rational means. I will take a look at the docus you have mentioned. When I was younger, I jumped at believing this kind of stuff... But it wasn't until I listened to...
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ...to hard-core logic and reasoning that I was swayed away from my driving emotions, which are human beings greatest assets and also their biggest enemies.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
it's done by stupid college kids.
nigletgook 1 week ago
People were forced to dismiss and forget the fact, that we, our hearts share vibration with earth, and that earth shares vibration with the sun which shares vibration with galaxy and thus entire universe. THIS, our lives are just an experience, our bodies, are a vessel, like when you recieve info on your PC, you need PC to recieve info, that's sort of how our bodies work with the energy. It is an experience. Spirituality was replaced by materialism. Bigest mistake ever made!
DooZooZe 1 week ago
i might respond with augmenting the crop circles as a response? i dont know......
xssuplado 1 week ago
ya and you know in 1647 no one was thinking of anything like this,so when they seen it,i bet they really didnt have a clue what the meaning was,i can watch things like this allday so cool,knowing something else,i think they send pure energy that like can shape anything around it material wise,or of any matter,don't know just makes you think and use our small brains.
seventhsinn 2 weeks ago
Great Video
SuperGamesLegend 2 weeks ago
it's the Arcturians who are making them and they can do it from their living room just like we control drones world-wide from the U.S.
One guy was in a field at night and suddenly couldn't move. He heard a voice say, "Don't move. You're standing in the middle of our ship." And then a crop circle was formed.
What kind of questions do you have?
Quick2000 3 weeks ago
how this vid gets 1.3k likes with only 100k views????
daruu01 3 weeks ago
New info from Kryon on these Circles! If you send me a message here I will forward the info to you.
Quick2000 3 weeks ago
52:25 watch the dirt path behind him talking, to the left of him. A ball of light appears, and begins moving down the path.
Pr3lude9 3 weeks ago
@Pr3lude9 good eyes!
infinitewobdrahpa 2 weeks ago
@infinitewobdrahpa I kept watching it, thinking it was a bird, but the figure is too bright to be a bird. I was in England (Mostly London, and east of it), in February of 2011. But I'd really like to go back, and drive around the southern part of the country.
Pr3lude9 2 weeks ago
@Pr3lude9 That looks more like a road in the distance, and what you refer to as a ball of light, looks more like a car passing down the road, so what you're seing is the top of the car!
DooZooZe 1 week ago
@DooZooZe That's true, it could be. England does use a lot of compact cars, and that's one small car on that road. I can see it on his right side too, before it appears on his left. If you time it, it seems to be moving at a pretty steady rate as well.
Pr3lude9 1 week ago
I'm going back to England.
Pr3lude9 3 weeks ago
i heard the footage that was given by this(maybe not his real name) john whaley was a hoax,look it up on internet.they talk about john whaley at about 0:54:00 .
uriel4377 3 weeks ago
People should use their braincells to analyze the data. Everything else is just prancing around the mass media - provided opinion. To "believe" in alien contact is really 19th century... Watch out !
Scopeidium 4 weeks ago
It is funny that the argument "It must be alien beeings from another world." has more supporters than "It must be humans who have great skill in doing something like this stealthily." or "It must be an unexplained natural phenomena." ....
netbookeater 1 month ago
I was not much of a believer in the crop circles, I do believe in E.T's but after seeing this it has made me some what a believer. That alien head which actually had a code was amazing so was the alien code they sent back in response to ours 20 odd years before.
RunWhilstYouCan 1 month ago
Thrive - the movie.
Scopeidium 1 month ago
Humanoids.
Scopeidium 1 month ago
This is really amazing. I don't see how humans could make the super complex ones without A LOT of help/noise/time/lights.
lockedine 1 month ago
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Umm, wow. Has anyone noticed that ball, when he was taking about it?
Go to 52:29
wow! Its on the brownish path, to the left of his shoulder. Above his hands, it lasts until it changes to the artists perception.
stormseeker442 1 month ago
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stormseeker442 1 month ago
The only way for it to be 'man-made', I think, would be for it to be a computer program on a satellite, and beamed radiation from a laser, or with microwaves...Sort of like a laser Etch-a-Sketch, or Spyrograph. But the radiation is obviously in the circles, may be the reason that lady's tumor was shrunk.
IwishIwasnot 1 month ago
We as the People could have a much more lively discussion if we would be more free to just easily Persume that we are not necessarily the top of the pops of the universe. Just persuming that there is intelligence out there who wants to tell us something, opening the eyes and see that something is wrong with us.. What we should do with dignity is to try to read the symbols in times like these for our society, Try to get something positive out. Science is the answer !
Scopeidium 1 month ago
Where those mysterious signs come from, or who or what invested how much time in actually bowing the crop to the ground shouldn`t be the crucial question.
Would be more worth to try to find out or at least try to couch some of the ideas that the signs might represent.
The whole discussion seems to belong to a car magazine where people speculate how this particular car speeds up so fast. I think it doesn`t really matter.
Scopeidium 1 month ago
Much more should be the question: What are these structures actually supposed to mean ?
First: in case they are man-made (try to find answers for each particular case of course)
Second: in case they are made by extraterrestrial intelligence (as well try to find to see any message in the symbols)
What could they tell us ???
Use your brain ! To my mind it`s rather ridiculus to waste ones time fighting about the big question weather or not is any advanced intelligence out there...
Scopeidium 1 month ago
I think it must have to do with some kind of temporary manipulation of our planet's magnetic field, acutely altering the field (no pun intended) in a certain pattern, causing a mutation in the grass at a microscopic, possibly as micro as DNA level, causing them to grow an unatural direction at an incredible rate.
No doubt this is a result of some force with incredible energy, and an incredibly sophisticated manner of using it.
nomaladeez 1 month ago
If there was intelligent life 'visiting us', I'd like to think if it was intelligernt enough to say 'hi' and introduce themsleves and not just make pretty pictures in the fields and then fly hundreds of light years back to where it came from.
A rather pointless and costly exercise, don't you think?
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
Have any of you 'believers' in Aliens visiting out planet ever stopped to think just how LONG it would them to get here?
Light, travelling from our nearest star, Proxima Centauri, takes about 3.5 years to reach us and that's travelling at light speed
I certainly believe that life exists elsewhere in the Universe. And I believe that there is likely other intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe... However, the distances involved would be immense, to reach us.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
brilliant documentary.
AngelWarriorSpeaks 1 month ago
In this world, there is a logical and rational and often simple expanation to everything....
Crop Circles 'suddenly' appeared only in the last few decades... it was a hoax - nothing more... I am astounded at just how many people have been taken in by this nonsense
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d The first recorded crop circle was in 1647...
ednagrimshaw 1 month ago 3
@ednagrimshaw Haha I love it when people try to dismiss these things and don't even do any research... "OMG it's a hoax".... Umm a 400 year old hoax?
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@ednagrimshaw And only in the last few decades have these 'phenomena' sprung to light. It's a fad which will eventually die out. Sorry to disappoint any believers.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d Prove it.
DangerousDan77777 1 month ago
@DangerousDan77777 It's not a case of my having to disprove this, it's more a case of you having to prove it. Subtle difference, I think you'll find. I think you'll also find that what you are saying to me is tantamount to my believing in a 'tooth fairy' and then asking you to disprove the existence of a tooth fairy. Let's be rational and polite here.
It always amazes me how and why people can get so offended and become so rude and obnoxious over beliefs which are solely fuelled by emotions
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d I find your tooth fairy analogy to be laughable.
Maybe if we had a pile of teeth....and the teeth were not from a dentists waste disposal, and the teeth had signs of fairy dust on it. It would make yer analogy a lil more fitting. You have crop circles made with precision, that hasnt been duplicated by a human. If you can duplicate it, or anyone for that matter, ill say its not the planet, or something extraterrestial. Until then, its up to ANYONE to theorise as they see fit.
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There was a documentary made, either for National Geographic or Discovery Channel, whereby a group of MIT students were filmed making crop circles under the cover of darkness.
The documentary does not appear to be available on YouTube for copyright reasons. You should purchase it online and watch it. You might see how easily you all have been taken in by these hoaxes
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jon Are you saying, that you believe that MIT students, are traveling all over the world, during school, during break, and making crop circles.lol....XD Making crop circles then never taking credit...accept in the ONE instance they did it for that TV special.
Yea, I have seen the show you speak of. They are addressed in this video. I guess you never bothered to watch it huh? I submit to you, that the only one being suckered here by hoaxes...is you. MIT students in 1697...XD thats a good one
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@FreedumbFighter28 I am TRYING to show people here that CROP CIRCLES are NOTHING more than a hoax, as EXEMPLIFIED by a documentary featuring (AS AN EXAMPLE) some MIT students. It is an EASY hoax to PERPETRATE. All you need is some mathematical grid drawings and a plank of wodd and some rope - surely it's not beyond your comprehension?
For the LAST time.... ALIENS are not VISITING this planet. The DISTANCES involved are FAR TOO VAST.
Go educate yourself in science and astronomy.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d I never said aliens did it....but your MIT students travelling the globe during school, during break, and camping out and playing commando in the corn fields isnt a real good explanation. Besides, yer using a sock account....how can ANYONE take you seriously?
You wanna be rational....but choose to throw rational thought out the window when it comes to yer explanation. As in....MIT students travelled back in time to make crop circles....LOL. I mean really.....XD
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@FreedumbFighter28 I am NOT saying MIT students are responsible for ALL the crop circles - I was citing, by example. Crop Circles are CLEARLY man (or woman) made.
Human beings have a history of playing pranks on each other and also expressing themselves visually, in the forms of wall or cave paintings, etc. or by creating 'pretty pictures' in fields.
Look at the Plains of Nazca - same thing, only no fields of wheat.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d So....Crop Circles have been made for hahas for hundreds of yrs....I suppose the OLD crop circles that the indians catalogued were made by students from cambridge who traveled the ocean for 3 months to..uh....make crop circles. Amazing they had the time to do that considering most people were to busy avoiding wolves, and just trying to survive past 30. But hey....why not.
Cave paintings were made as a prank? Not to convey a message?...and shaving mountains....mmmhhh...wow
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Read what I said. Why are you still mentioning MIT students going all over the world or back in time? Are you taking the piss, or are you serious?
Read and understand what I have written - this is a joke...
And at no point did I imply that cave drawings were done as a prank. Re-read.
You are FREE to believe that 'magical forces' are responsible for Crop Circles. Crop Circles are human made EITHER as a means of self expression, or done as a prank.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d No...I think you should read what I said....I said CAMBRIDGE...as MIT was not around yet. Why would INDIANS, who have zero connection to england, where crop circles were happening, make crop circles of there own? Maybe students from cambidge took a 3 month long boat trip,then decided to make crop circles in america? Im just trying to follow yer logic here.Or perhaps..INDIANS went to ENGLAND?0-o?? And if this is all true,why would the military care at all?? Wasted tax dollars huh
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@FreedumbFighter28 This thread has to end now. You are coming across as asinine.
You are free to believe in magical forces - I grew out of that before the age of 10.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d This video addresses the people who make crop circles. Its not as though they keep them secret or pretend they do not exist. You want people to stop believing in aliens, Or physics not yet understood? Fact is,when presented with your own theory,you bail and call it ridiculous. lol...thats very telling. Im all for saying ITS ALL HUMANS,but why would humans from different cultures, make the same circles but not look for cred? You just dont have the answers...so stop pretending you do
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Exercise a little rationality and logic with matters of this nature.
Crop Circles are human-made - nothing more, nothing less.
The only time I ever give anything serious creditability is if I see hard core irrefutable evidence which can be backed up, empirically.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d So the pyramids werent built by humans cause we cant build them now? Now i know thats a straw man....but hear me out. You say MAN made crop circles, All over the world, in different cultures for Hundreds of years and rather than saying they did it,they said elves,ufos, earth ect ect did it....UNTIL,some students from MIT made a crop circle...and now the mystery is solved? Well,when are we gonna build a pyramid to shut those guys up as well..for Pyramids cant be built by us...XD
FreedumbFighter28 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d So you watched a documentary that shows it was a hoax? How about that documentary is a hoax it self to throw closedminded imbeciles like you in dark, which is obviously working. Get the fuck out, just because you didn't see anything doesn't mean it isn't there.
DooZooZe 1 week ago
@DooZooZe Listen carefully fuck-wit... Aliens are NOT visiting this planet and making pretty pictures in our fields - use your fucking diminutive brain and you might figure out why...
Have you ANY idea of the DISTANCES involved to travel here from another star??? It would take about 3 years to get here from the NEAREST star, travelling at the speed of light - if there is intelligent life capable of interstellar travel, it is most likely hundreds of light years away.
Work out the figures.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d You got nothing to say to me you closedminded fucking bitch. Go back living in a science ''BOX'' and blindly following popular thought like a good sheep you are. YOU fucking dick, and the rest of your crawlers aren't going any fucking place. Exacly because of the reason, you described in that last pile of shit you call a post. It's as usual a '*WASTE'' of time replying to a brainwashed retards like you, who TRUELY live in imprisoned dream world! Retard!
DooZooZe 1 week ago
@DooZooZe Infantile and asinine.
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If you bury your head in the sand and turn a blind eye to mathematics and physics, (the 'mechanics' that shape, define, dictate and control the physical world and universe that we live in), then you are an even larger fuck-wit than I had initially given you credit for being.
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You ridicule science and physics, the very mechanisms which enables you to log on to the internet and air your limited 'intellect' - do you see the irony here?
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
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jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
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@DooZooZe In case you don't know the meaning of irony... it's like goldy and bronzey, except it's made of iron!
Go and get and education... And tell Santa Claus I said hi!
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
Come on man... We already know warpdrives and wormholes are possible theoretically. We just need a power source that enables us to use the technology necessary to make these things a reality.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL I agree 100% with you. However, theory is one thing; practice is another. But, if there is an alien race with the intelligence to build such a technology to enable them to travel 'faster' than light speed, do you really think that they would make such an arduous journey to our planet, just to draw pictures in our fields?
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I would like to think that if they have the intelligence to make it to Earth, that they would also have the intelligence to 'call in' and and say hi, here we are.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
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Who are we to say a journey like that would be arduous? 50 years ago travelling to Australia from Europe was arduous, now it's a relative breeze.
And making themselves known to us to openly could cause major panic amongst humans. WE are the top predator in the universe, WE run things, WE are boss. And when suddenly a superior technological race stands on our doorstep, we will be confronted with fear. This fear is actually healthy because any animal that doesn't..
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL Bending space and time surely has to be quite a feat in itself, not to mention blasting off into space. I think there are better ways for intelligent life to make itself know to us than..
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@NLPCPNL ... by drawing pictures in our fields.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
@jonnyridge3d
.. have fear for a stronger animal, will not be very successful. When confronted with a superior intelligence from another world, we will have feelings similar to wild animals that are confronted with a bigger animal. We will not be "tame" to these aliens from the get go, that's just build into our DNA. We will be very cautious and intelligent aliens will know this and keep this in mind. Very slowly opening our minds is the best strategy for contact.
NLPCPNL 1 week ago
@DooZooZe Feel free to believe in fairies, pixies, crop circles, etc... It's a free world.
jonnyridge3d 1 week ago
A 'failing' of human-beings is that they generally are FAR too emotional and gullible. In the case of Crop Cirlcles and 'other phenomina', people believe simply what they want to believe becuase it's 'mysterious' and 'wondrous' and 'exciting'.
When people blindly believe or follow something, without ever exercising and real hard-core logic or reasoning, it is a very irresponsible practice, as we see with the likes of religion and ALL the problems that has created over the millenia.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
A problem in this world is that FAR too many people jump to illogical, irrational, emotional conclusions, WITHOUT really stopping to give any real thought to what it is they desperately want to believe in...
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d I have thousands of hours of research, not just on this subject, please explain your logic and reasoning.
DangerousDan77777 1 month ago
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jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@DangerousDan77777 The onus is not on me to disprove this. Detach yourself from your emotions and apply some rationality and reasoning to matters in future. You'll find you'll go further in life. Good luck.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
People.... Wake up.... Crop cirlcles are man/woman-made. Just TRY to apply some logic instead of letting your emotions get the run of you.
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
@jonnyridge3d I looked at your channel, you are just a pos shill, cointel, liar, garbage, kiss my ass asshole!
DangerousDan77777 1 month ago
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@DangerousDan77777 A wonderfully insightful, intelligent, pragmatic and erudite response. Well done. Your responses certainly have blown away my reasoning and my approach. I bow to your greater wisdom... (Sarcasm, in case you haven't twigged it)
jonnyridge3d 1 month ago
the video filming the forming of the crop circles is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!
ralu4mike 1 month ago 5
wow does anyone see the small ball of light beside the road in 52.28 to 52.35
byestify 1 month ago
hahaha the music sometimes is pink floyd, nice touch! :)
ob1moreno 1 month ago
The greatest thing I fear, lack of knowledge.
BaxterXenon 1 month ago
Sexy ass thing...
gforce4all 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
spcosho 1 month ago
you Know in LOTR Bilbo says
"1296 a very good year, almost old as i am"
Eliandor100 2 months ago 3
Awesome video! There are many aspects of the genuine crop circles that absolutely could not be done by human pranksters overnight in the dark,or even at all,like expulsion cavities throughout at nodes partially up the stalks..like ground water disturbances under the crop circles..like residual, detectible energies.With the number of stars with planets we're finding now, and vast number of galaxies we've found..it would be totally arrogant for us to assume we're the only life,or intelligent life.
MrPeace2u 2 months ago in playlist Crop Circles And Appono Astos..
I saw something when the in one of the tsunami videos. The guy who filmed it noted a very fast moving object moving unperturbed by the current. It's movement was much similar to the ball of lights energy of movement. Would be nice for someone to look at this.
The light burning in the bush, doesn't that sound a lot like 'the burning bush' in the bible as well. I think that all of this, to me anyway, is encouraging!
tosca990 2 months ago in playlist Season 1
If humans can make colossal buildings, figure out the speed of light and find cures for virus then i'm pretty sure crop circles are do-able.
yellowman88 2 months ago
@yellowman88 You fucking idiot. Shut the fuck up and get off youtube, you mindless bitch
trevorerwin202 1 month ago
@yellowman88 All of those things are do-able by many human-hours of work. Pop a skyscraper up overnight and you'll have made a good point.
chikkenvoicesinmyhed 1 month ago
@chikkenvoicesinmyhed Have never seen a skyscraper "popped up overnight". Are you and drugs?
DangerousDan77777 1 month ago