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  • I'm Roman Catholic, my deepest beliefs r summed up w/ Nicene Creed.Also love history-am not oblivious to were many church stories/customs originate, yur image of gabriel reminds me of alien/S.American/Egyptian contact theories.The church/s can be false to extremes but i still feel a greater power in it.All said,i've had/seen moments that cant be explained & I feel it's not for me to ever know-only that it was divine in all respects.cool vid/music. In Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti..

  • the bible says the jews are gods chosen people. the bible was written by jews. the whole concept of the bible is a lie. duh!

  • Mary was like us. We've all experienced amazing miracles, yet we behave as if we haven't. Some people have deified Mary, the Vatican has, and thats wrong. She was like us.

  • Didn't want to be stoned to death so invented a bogus story.

    Angels don't exist.

  • sorry but.. NO!

  • Even more damning, Muslims beleive that Gabriel was sent by Allah to introduce Islam to the Arabs through the Prophet Muhammad. Maybe Muhammad was lying too? Why would an angel of God be involved in TWO rival religions?

  • @DaleHusband It indicates there are no gods or there are at least 2 who are have different goals or are working together to confuse us or the 1 god is confusing us. IF god(s) exist, there is no reason to assume it/they would be rational, benevolent or trustworthy.

  • Dude - Angels have no earthly form. Never have. (Humans can't become angels, btb) They also have no gender. Why would you need it? Angels are ambiguous.

  • It is evident you do not know the bible. There are no female angels. Remember the bible god only like males.

  • @Escapadefan (I know this is an old post) In the Bible, angels came down and mated with human women and begat giants like Goliath. So they WERE males.

  • Well his eyes I never saw as he was wearing a veil and had just way too much light around him that you couldn't exactly see him straight, maybe that's why they say he has a face of lightning.

    Anyways, just having him there was and is still beyond belief to me yet I know it happened. I must have been a very pure child at the time. Maybe he wore that veil to not scare a child.

  • All I can say is that he does exist and he does not look like that at all.

    From someone who saw him too.

  • Gabriel has a fiery eyes and is similar to angel in daniel's vision

  • Why did Mary worry that Jesus was insane? Remember, this took place 30 years after Jesus' birth. Yes, Mary knew that Jesus was the Messiah, but that does not preclude Mary from worrying about Jesus, especially in the fact that the nation of Israel was not, for the most part, recognizing Him as the Messiah and the fact that there were surely all kinds of rumors about Jesus being demon-possessed and/or insane. Even a person who was visiting by an angel can, 30 years later, have worry and doubt.

  • Again, only the folks in the bible have memory problems about angels visiting them or the ocean opening up, or seeing someone raised from the dead. What a group of loons the bible tells us about.

  • It is ridiculous to say that Mary "forgot" about the meeting with Gabriel. You are reading way too much into the accounts. Why did Mary not understand what Jesus said in the temple at age 12 (Luke 2)? Joseph and Mary had been frantically searching for Jesus for several days. It would be understandable, then, for Mary to be stressed and confused upon finding Jesus in the temple. A few days with little or no sleep and lots of worry will leave anyone with a diminished mindset.

  • My son is 30 years old and I remember every detail of the weeks leading up to his birth. Only in the bible do folks fail to believe when a miracle is presented to them or a visit from an angel. lol

  • Again, Mary was to stressed and confused after searching for Jesus. Having little to no sleep will leave anyone with a diminished mindset. If you don't accept that, then to bad.

  • What verses of the bible claim that Mary had little to no sleep and had a diminished mindset? You might want to read Rev 22:18 before adding to what the bible states. Why would Mary and Joseph worry, even a little bit, about the well being of the supposed son of god reported to them by a green angel? The whole story is ridiculous or false. Time to grow up and leave the childish things behind Jose.

  • I never said it was in the bible, I just claimed that it is UNDERSTANDABLE that Mary was to be stressed and confused when finding Jesus at the temple, since probably, they had little to no sleep at all during their search.

    Mary worried of Jesus because she is her mother, and women tend to have that instinct of worrying about things. Ofcourse that Jesus was okay, but Mary had that motherly feeling of always being on Jesus--and now that he was gone for a bit, she was stressed.

  • Alright I see you have given up on God. You will be sorry when u face the fire of hell.

  • Only lies need threats to get people to believe in them. The truth stands on its own. What proof do you have that there is such a place as hell other than an old book of superstition? How might you feel at the end of your life to find out you wasted it on the wrong god?

  • There is no definitive link between these two events; both can co-exist truthfully. Also, generally fables persist because of some degree of common truth which generations of people understand.

  • In the big picture, what matters is not the details, but the message. We each have our own reality, bible writers too.

    Isn't the message that Jesus taught us one of unconditional love? Our ego is what caused our fall away from God. Putting our ego aside is our way back to oneness with God. We were all created from one Spirit. In learning to see ourselves in each other is how we learn see what we need to change in ourselves so we can see God in all.

    Love, light, and blessings to you!

  • Unconditional love? Does your god love me in such a way that even if I don't believe in him he will still take me to heaven? If not, then it is not unconditional love. You need to watch my video "Christianity Causes Brain Damage".

    "To claim that the god of the bible is loving is like claiming a rattle snake is affectionate or a porcupine is cuddly." - Gali Yonvadis

  • Writers of the bible were human; they wrote from their own perception. If they knew God as unloving it was a reflection of what was in their own hearts - their ego clouded their perception.

    Yes, my God loves U as I love U. My God will take U to the heaven U create through your experience. There are many paths 2 God. We can never force another's heart. Open our hearts & go within 2 find our own path 2 peace; we reflect 2 others our personal relationship with God. Much love & many blessings 2 U!

  • I feel sorry for you: when you loose your faith in something bigger than you, you lost a big part of what makes us human.

    As for Jomina1 I would like to know EXACTLY in what part of the bible claims that angels "mate"

    with women?

  • I feel sorry for you when you loose your faith.

    I feel sorry that people actually buy into this WITHOUT researching facts! If you accept the holy bible, it's teachings, principals, and history of christianity you just accepted the worst atrocities that have ever happened to mankind in all human history. Your ideology is far worse than Hitler's, that is pretty subhuman to me, and I identify religious dogma as a threat to my safety and freedom, which people of faith are a threat.

  • Moreliana77, have you ever read the emperors new clothes? it was a child who realized he wasn't wearing any clothes, but he wanted to feel like he had not been tricked.

  • Netwriter, PLEASE dont give up on christianity! My church has a fun contemporary service where you sing and dance and have fun, and still praise God! Im sure you can find one too. Ask a pastor about all this.

  • Have fun??? I would rather have truth.

  • I find it funny that that person tried to pull you in with fun. :l

  • Netwriter,

    I've watched your video, read your comments and have one question for you. If everyone has the right to believe what they wish, why create a video that attacks the beliefs of others? Is this also apart of your beliefs or is this you just being a jack-ass?

  • Hey Gabe, I wasted 40 years of my life, my energy and my money on the superstition of christianity. Once I did the hard research into the origins of christianity and the bible I learned the truth. I do this to help other escape the death cult of christianity. I also do this because of christians trying to make this country into a christian version of Saudi Arabia. When they quit trying to force their beliefs on everyone else, I will leave them to believe as they wish, unchallenged.

  • gabexavier,

    people attack xianity because 1, we have a right to poke fun at retarded beliefs,

    and 2, you jackasses make laws that affect me, even though you jackasses fail to prove your beliefs. I mean laws like prostitution, same sex marriage, etc. you refuse to prove your retarded ideas, then like jackasses attack others legally. go fuck yourself

  • Yep either Mary didn't exist at all, or, she was a loose woman who was REALLY able to stick to her story...

    Too bad that story to cover up her "gettin round" has been the death and detriment of so many poor people for the past 2000 years :(

  • actually whoever made this video is a complete and utter arse beacause firstly angels dont have a gender, they are neither male nor female, and just because u dont have a belief doesnt give you the right to try and disporve someone elses when to be quite honest you have fuck all evidence

  • Where do you get that they have no gender? In the bible it talks about angels mating with human women and giving rise to the horrors known as the nephilim. Whenever an angel is mentioned, it says HE, not IT, and just because it says that they neither marry nor give in marriage does NOT mean they are sexless, only don't marry

    as to whether I have the right to prove or disprove someone else, I have the right to believe anything I wish, just as they do, just as you do

  • Good video. Makes sense to me.

  • Looks like an alien :D

  • In Luke 2:49-50 you missed the part where his mother had told him that they had been worried and looking around for him everywhere. it is not that they did not understand that God was Jesus' Heavenly father. Nor did Mary forget about seeing Gabriel. What they didnt understand is why Jesus was what he ment by being IN his fathers house. For the passage in Mark teachers of religious laws had the power to kill people. His family was thinking they needed to save him they didnt think he was crazy.

  • Gabriel told Mary she was going to have the son of god. She was then confused when Jesus referred to god as his father and the temple as his father's house. That is the point of this video. There should have been zero confusion about this had Gabriel really met with mary before the birth. Your apology is gibberish.

  • Daniel 10:6 says that his body looked like a dazzling Gem..that does not mean that is what color it is. just means that his body gave off light. just like a gem would if it was pure and clean and was held up to the sun. (a part that you misunderstood)

  • Yes, no one would forget a meeting with such a being, but Mary did.

  • George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, founding fathers of the USA.since 'Give me liberty or give me death' Patrick Henry said, our country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We eleminated God from the equation of American life, thus eleminating the reason this Nation first began. And the word of God IS the Bible. Nor Luke or Mark Lied. You have just very badly miss read, missunderstood, and missed judged what it is that you have read....

  • SuperDaisy222, there is not way to say this politely, you are a blatant liar, or you are totally ignorant of american history. The vast majority of the founding fathers were Deists, not xians.

    I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature. - Thomas Jefferson

  • Netwriter, first off. Do not insault me. what you believe is diffrent from what I and other Christians believe. And that is fine. But even if someone was to show you that what you think is not true, you would not believe it anyways.the fact that you think someone is lying is your own understanding of what your reading. But it's not at all what the Bible is saying. And I was not insaulting the founding fathers. Do some history work. it's all in there. And if you do not want to believe it dont.

  • Sorry SuperDaisy, but I have a degree in history from a major university and I have to tell you that your understanding of the founding fathers is anything but accurate. You might want to read a real history book. You have been mislead.

    "The founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected [Washington; Adams; Jefferson; Madison; Monroe; Adams; Jackson] not a one had professed a belief in Christianity" -

    Reverend Bird Wilson

  • SuperDaisy222, what does your comment have to do with the thesis of this video? This is nothing but a red herring. It is evident that you have no answer for the thesis of this video that someone in the bible is lying. The writers of Mark, or Luke are lying or the whole virgin birth story is a hoax. You can't deal with this reality so you try to change the subject by lying about the founding fathers. This is pitiful on your part.

  • WOOT!, WOOT!!!

  • netwriter you are incorrect superman is DC comics but good job making yourself look like a tard

  • My bad, sorry. I should have said that jesus is the Marvel Comic Super Hero. Thanks for the correction.

  • lol! Excuse me for being nosy, but I couldn't help noticing that you are 100% right. These people are totally attacking you about useless subjects, like what comic made Superman. They are trying to divert the attention, like you said in the Muslim Christian Debate video. I apoligize on behalf of myself and of all of the Christians who are giving you a hard time.

  • Gabriel does have wings. In fact he destroyed the city of Sodom with the only the tip of his wing. I invite you to learn more about Islam, the true message from the Lord of Gabriel and all of Creation.

  • According to my Marvel Comic Book, MuslimGhost, Superman wears a cape and he destroyed Sodom with a mighty fart. I invite you to learn more about Superman, from the true source of knowledge, my Marvel Comic book.

  • Well I guess that makes the comic book more truthful than the bible.

  • Either way they're both manmade pieces of fiction. The Quran is the only TRUE word of God. And Islam is the only religion acceptable to the One and only God.

  • Bzzzzzzzzzt! Nope, the quran is just as much baloney as is the bible or a marvel comic book. Your god is as bogus as the rest of the gods men have invented. There is not a nickels worth of difference between the bible, the quran, allah and yaweh, all inventions of superstitious bronze age savages. All four turn normal folks into irrational fanatics.

  • Peace be upon you, I seek not to argue with the ignorant. Maybe one day Allah will guide you and you will be saved from the fires of hell that have been prepared for those who die rejecting faith and transgressing all limits.

  • There it is, like the second shoe hitting the floor, the threat of hell fire. Thanks MuslimGhost, you just proved that what you believe is a lie. Only a lie needs threats to scare people into believing it. You might want to watch my video "Debate 101 for Christians and Muslims" If you do you will know why you just lost this exchange, your credibility and showed the bankruptcy of Islam.  It is called argumentum ad baculum.

  • MuslimGhost slapped in the face, he hasn't got anything left to say, good work Netwriter!!

  • Beryl can be green, blue, yellow, red, and white. I know I'm out-classed in biblical knowledge by you, but are you sure they meant green?

  • Maybe he was the color of the rainbow. :o) Beryl is a gemstone and does come in several colors, but mostly green and sea blue.

  • LOL brilliant!!

  • i honestly thought gab would turn out to be a alien. all he was missing was antena.

  • Wow.

    I think that if a being like that appeared to me, I CERTAINLY wouldn't forget it.

    Green skin...I've never heard that one.

  • This is obvious. Angels can change their appearance. When Gabriel visited Mary, he was in the guise of the Geico Gecko. Nice enough to look at, but forgettable.

    Contradiction? No, sir! Once again Christian apologetics wins!

  • would you like to save 15% of humanity by giving birth to jesus?

  • Haha. I see what you did there.

  • I like your videos Netwriter. I especially like the music!

  • Look at all the fuckin' illiteracy in the comments (and the video, too). Jesus H. Christ. Archangel is one word. Atrocities (not 2 t's near the beginning). Electrocuted. Too (meaning also), not to. Drivel, not dribble. Don't you twits LEARN what you're taught in school?

  • so wuts ur point

  • Spelling aside, the points remain.

  • Wow you gotsabe be purfect

    Yous is mine new jeebus

  • SUMMARY: The bible is inconsistent dribble. Read it only if you intend to laugh at silly words taken seriously by millions and billions of zombies.

    *sigh* I wonder if other realities are nicer this time of year...?

  • Golden loincloth? Green skin? Bronze hands and feet? Burning eyes and a face like lightning? Is it just me or does he sound like a deranged supervillian?

  • No, but if you were as high as the writers of the Bible were, you'd see that kinda shit to... all the time lol

  • Actually, it sounds a lot like the original costume of electro (from the spiderman comics)

  • Do you think if you slap Gabriel in the face you'll get electricuted?

  • Wait...I thought Gabriel looked like Christopher Walken???

  • Now that is scary. Mary wouldn't forget that meeting either.

  • who knew, angels are actually the little green men and here we were thinking they're aliens. dont we just feel stupid now.

  • I always picture Gabriel as a woman myself. I dont know why that is...

  • I believe the quran describes Gabriel as having 600 wings.

  • Or....Mary was fooling around behind Joseph's back.

  • Isn't that just *so* much more plausible?

  • It's the ultimate religious contradiction, if god is infallible, and he's responsible for 'inspiring' the contradictory, evil, poorly written bible, then he's pretty fallible. This 'message to us all from god' is particularly poorly written, contains apparently justified unspeakable attrocities, and contradicts itself many many times.

    Either at least some of the writers are lying, or they're very very mistaken on these 'facts to live by'.

    Great vid... 5/5

  • Alli can remember is during primary school nativity plays Gabriel was always played by the tallest girl, wore a white sheet and had a bit of gold tinsel around her head! Great vid.

  • This is an angle on the fable that I had not seen before. And I had quite forgotten the incident in Mark 3, something that Catholic Christians would certainly not like to look too closely at. Good video - have 5*

  • Excellent video as always, Netwriter.

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