I personally feel much safer on good old 747 with 50 yrs of jumbo jet best safety record in aviation history. {A380 got cracks issue on wing span so too soon. And what's next?!]
It sounded to me like the pilot was not sure exactly what the problem was at that stage. He had opted to turn round and shut No3 down and, as already explained by smeary10 it was necessary to reduce the fuel load before landing.
These planes can land safely on 3 engines and such a landing would have been completely routine. However, it is my guess he would have increased his margin by lightening the fuel load still further in case he lost power in a second engine.
They are indeed and I am not just saying that because I live here.
I think the problem with many pilots throughout the world is that they learn to fly the big jets but never had to fly by the seat of their pants in a basic aircraft without computers doing much of the work. When things go wrong they are unable to improvise solutions.
I remember one crash where the rudder broke off an airliner ... ''dooming the plane''
In the hands of a skilled pilot why would this doom the aircraft? In WW2 and later Vietnam there were many cases of aircraft landing with massive damage, in one case a B52 with tail fin and left elevator completely gone.
These flying skills seen to be totally missing in todays world of commercial flying.
@TheSpiritof1969 If you're referring to the 747 crash in Japan, when they lost the tail and rudder, it also took out all hydraulic systems. Big jets require hydraulic assist and there is no way the pilots can move the controls without it. Also swept wing design is a lot more unstable without a tail than old WWII aircraft. They did a fantastic job keeping it up with asymmetric power and changing power but sadly couldn't avoid the high terrain in the end.
You are correct, I did not know about the hydraulics on that flight. They made a huge effort to save the plane but they had no pitch control.
There was a case where a DC10 door blew out (Sometime before the Paris disaster) and all hydraulics to the tail was lost. The pilot used differential thrust between the wings and high tail engine to control pitch.
He actaully landed it in one peice although fit the the scrap yard, incredible flying.
The crash I was referring to originaly happened in the US. The pilot experienced problems and was too heavy on the pedals, he did not realise the plane was yawing badly in phase with his own inputs and in trying harder to correct it he was actually making it worse.
In the end the rudder broke away. I beleive if he had better skills and experience he could have saved the plane or not got into that situation in the first place.
@TheSpiritof1969 From what I understand, at this time they only knew that they had trouble, and got a lot of warning messages they had to deal with. It were one of the complaints they had actually, too many messages at the same time.
That said;kudos to the pilots for landing the plane, the damage were far more severe than they knew at the time, and rumour has it that only the A380 could have survived that due to it's third, non-hydraulic backup system. Even then just barely.
Since the plane flew to the relatively short time, Dump fuel is mandatory for the propose of reducind weight from T/O Weight to a much less and safe Max. Landing Weight =MLW or less
This is a "bait video" by the way. The misleading title brings you here and then the link "for further details" take you to a site that has nothing to with this.
Australian airline Qantas Airbus A380 blew out an engine, making a safe emergency landing in Singapore with 459 people aboard, all survived.
The next announcement was: 'For those of you that can swim please locate the life jackets under the seat and fasten them for those of you that can't swim thank you for flying with Qantas.'
@JACgaming69 Too true. If I had a pilot saying that, I would just kick back and relax. I'll bet the cabin crew where still serving drinks too LOL. Yeah Aussie!
Typical, professional, Aussie pilot. Bloody good effort. One of the main issues they had was that they were losing fuel through the hole in the wing. This had the potential to inbalance the aircraft as the tank to tank fuel pumps couldn't keep up withthe loss of fuel rate.
@smeary10 lol, if they were already losing fuel,,, they wouldn't dump fuel... They were losing fuel, but that wasn't the main problem.. they could cross feed the tanks to balance up the plane..
@dAnB1892 exactly my point,,, if they had excess of fuel.. then they didn't have to worry about fuel... some people say their main problem was losing fuel :S
@afgrocks123 - the problems were many. The biggest issue was an inbalance of fuel weight. They couldn't pump fuel into the damaged wing, which was losing fuel through the hole punched into it. Therefore, the A380 was becoming increasingly off balance. Regardless of where you want to pump fuel.
The unbalanced aircraft would have been stabilised using the trim. the lighter left wing would cause the aircraft to bank right but it could be trimmed out with no problem so the aircraft will fly balanced without pilot input to constantly correct it.
The shutting down of the engine would have caused an imbalance also which is also easilly overcome by using trim.
@ChuckMamuck Im sorry but trim will only do so much, do not forget about the United Airlines DC-10 that cartwheeled on touchdown in the states due to the number 2 engine failing which destroyed the aircraft's hydraulic systems, that plane needed the skill of three pilots to even get it back to the runway.
Thats a hydraulic failure not an imbalance,destroyed hydraulics affect the operation of the control surfaces, if they fail you have serious problems. An imbalance is far less serious, if both engines fell from a wing then you'll struggle trimming that out but not a fuel imbalance. You can lose power in both same wing engines and still trim the aircraft to fly safely. It caused damage to surfaces, flaps and hydraulics but not failures, the AC was still under full control.
@ChuckMamuck Ahh yes I see what you mean, there is quite a big difference between the two! But yeah its basically Thrust Asymmetry Compensation which deals with the trimming of an aircraft if there is an engine failure on one wing. Without it you may have to be hulk hogan to keep the plane straight lol
LoL, yeah it wouldn't be an enjoyable flight experience, you would need a massage afterwards.
Trims really simple, it uses the control surfaces like the ailerons and just lifts or lowers them so they remain in that position when not in use. If the AC is flying stable with trim and you alter airspeed then the airflow over the surface changes so you have to re adjust the trim again, without it the pilot would constantly fight the controls. This pilot was cool under pressure
@smeary10 typical pilot in general. Pilots are extremely well trained, skillful, professional and calm under pressure no matter where they're from...also the reason why most pilots are male too.
@RJSyeah You should insert the word "appear" before the word "calm" in your statement. There have been a number of times in my career where I have been feeling outright terror in the air. Any experienced airline pilot will have had the odd nightmare moment. It's training that gets you through. And by the way, some of the best and most capable pilots I have flown with were women.
That's correct mate. I couldn't be fucked getting into the details of the multiple issues the pilot was facing in regards to fuel loadings and transfer across the aircraft to some of the muppets on this page who don't know a) the situation of this case & b) aerodynamics. But you're spot on. There was also a fore & aft fuel balance issue which was his biggest concern for approach (AoA). Obviously getting the fuel down to a landing weight, balanced, with the damage was a nightmare.
part of the check list was to formulate a means to stop the air craft on the runway..... they don't like to use brakes too hard, and is a bit dangerous to use them a lot because it really stresses all the landing gear .. so they took a while to formulate the safest landing, which included a lot of tyre braking...
very professional. hats off!
jooyoonchung 1 hour ago
Hey! This anchor is the same woman who was on Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory"
EquipaPatriot 5 days ago
@EquipaPatriot no it isnt lol
BunnaMan49 1 day ago
"We're having some technical issues" Well, no shit Sherlock, there's a fucking hole in the wing ._.
MoustachesAreEpic 6 days ago
I love Aussie pilots, their so calm.
NxJW 1 week ago
@NxJW THEY'RE, you fucking tard
overlandpark6me 3 days ago
I personally feel much safer on good old 747 with 50 yrs of jumbo jet best safety record in aviation history. {A380 got cracks issue on wing span so too soon. And what's next?!]
gregsunson 1 week ago
good job by the pilots
kissklassics 1 week ago
What the fuck do you mean last message?????????? You mean the plane crashed??????? Your a fucking tosser., Last message by pilot, fuck you
boggo58 1 week ago
@boggo58 relax man..when was the last time you got laid?
MrOzwinner 6 days ago
"at THIS stage?"
In other words... "at any minute things could completely unravel and we're all totally fukt!"
BiggerThinking1 2 weeks ago
@BiggerThinking1
Exactly what i was thinking!!
TheIvanov4 1 week ago
Love her accent
bluetires12 2 weeks ago
Great Pilot!! In Japan they say! Fuck it!
Donbass777 2 weeks ago
It sounded to me like the pilot was not sure exactly what the problem was at that stage. He had opted to turn round and shut No3 down and, as already explained by smeary10 it was necessary to reduce the fuel load before landing.
These planes can land safely on 3 engines and such a landing would have been completely routine. However, it is my guess he would have increased his margin by lightening the fuel load still further in case he lost power in a second engine.
Quantas pilots are brilliant.
TheSpiritof1969 3 weeks ago
@TheSpiritof1969 QANTAS pilots are great, and the engineers, and the admin staff, and the attendants. Just wish Alan Joyce realised this
TheLastOutpost 2 weeks ago
@TheLastOutpost
They are indeed and I am not just saying that because I live here.
I think the problem with many pilots throughout the world is that they learn to fly the big jets but never had to fly by the seat of their pants in a basic aircraft without computers doing much of the work. When things go wrong they are unable to improvise solutions.
TheSpiritof1969 2 weeks ago
@TheLastOutpost
I remember one crash where the rudder broke off an airliner ... ''dooming the plane''
In the hands of a skilled pilot why would this doom the aircraft? In WW2 and later Vietnam there were many cases of aircraft landing with massive damage, in one case a B52 with tail fin and left elevator completely gone.
These flying skills seen to be totally missing in todays world of commercial flying.
TheSpiritof1969 2 weeks ago
@TheSpiritof1969 If you're referring to the 747 crash in Japan, when they lost the tail and rudder, it also took out all hydraulic systems. Big jets require hydraulic assist and there is no way the pilots can move the controls without it. Also swept wing design is a lot more unstable without a tail than old WWII aircraft. They did a fantastic job keeping it up with asymmetric power and changing power but sadly couldn't avoid the high terrain in the end.
wbwadd 1 week ago
@wbwadd
You are correct, I did not know about the hydraulics on that flight. They made a huge effort to save the plane but they had no pitch control.
There was a case where a DC10 door blew out (Sometime before the Paris disaster) and all hydraulics to the tail was lost. The pilot used differential thrust between the wings and high tail engine to control pitch.
He actaully landed it in one peice although fit the the scrap yard, incredible flying.
TheSpiritof1969 1 week ago
@wbwadd
The crash I was referring to originaly happened in the US. The pilot experienced problems and was too heavy on the pedals, he did not realise the plane was yawing badly in phase with his own inputs and in trying harder to correct it he was actually making it worse.
In the end the rudder broke away. I beleive if he had better skills and experience he could have saved the plane or not got into that situation in the first place.
TheSpiritof1969 1 week ago
@TheSpiritof1969 From what I understand, at this time they only knew that they had trouble, and got a lot of warning messages they had to deal with. It were one of the complaints they had actually, too many messages at the same time.
That said;kudos to the pilots for landing the plane, the damage were far more severe than they knew at the time, and rumour has it that only the A380 could have survived that due to it's third, non-hydraulic backup system. Even then just barely.
AGrandt 2 weeks ago
Since the plane flew to the relatively short time, Dump fuel is mandatory for the propose of reducind weight from T/O Weight to a much less and safe Max. Landing Weight =MLW or less
luiskrohn 3 weeks ago
Stupid title makes it sound like they died.
squirttle92 4 weeks ago 8
Don't worry about using the brace position. You can lean forward all you want but we're still going to hit the ground at 500km/h.
swatdiver1 1 month ago
At least he landed
4W4YYY 1 month ago
"Thank you for your patience" I have to admit, the pilot stayed cool as shit the whole time.
gmcg923 1 month ago
This is a "bait video" by the way. The misleading title brings you here and then the link "for further details" take you to a site that has nothing to with this.
Australian airline Qantas Airbus A380 blew out an engine, making a safe emergency landing in Singapore with 459 people aboard, all survived.
5uspended4nimation 1 month ago
The next announcement was: 'For those of you that can swim please locate the life jackets under the seat and fasten them for those of you that can't swim thank you for flying with Qantas.'
kanga1234567 1 month ago 12
like if u WAS ON THIS FLIGHT
Aaron2009baby 1 month ago
Turns off mic: Damn, wish we were on the 777 right now
rcvideoshooter 1 month ago 2
its so true as you know,,,,,,,,, like the virgin staff use the word obvisly when really you had no idea
rootsgomer 2 months ago
@rootsgomer obvisly? No such word. I think you mean OBVIOUSLY.
whatwouldjudydo 1 month ago
@whatwouldjudydo Obvisly; it's a perfectly cromulent word
TheLastOutpost 3 days ago
Thank you for your patience .... epic lol
samueldavs 2 months ago
@samueldavs ...passenger to flight attendant: "C'mon! We're not on the ground YET??"
jwmmath 15 hours ago
*turns off mic* We're fucked man.....
JACgaming69 2 months ago 68
@JACgaming69
Not a laughing matter.
IMnotSAS 2 months ago
@IMnotSAS ok? it's not like anybody died, or even got hurt in the accident. It's a joke dude
JACgaming69 2 months ago
@JACgaming69 Too true. If I had a pilot saying that, I would just kick back and relax. I'll bet the cabin crew where still serving drinks too LOL. Yeah Aussie!
SupercellKid 2 weeks ago
Typical, professional, Aussie pilot. Bloody good effort. One of the main issues they had was that they were losing fuel through the hole in the wing. This had the potential to inbalance the aircraft as the tank to tank fuel pumps couldn't keep up withthe loss of fuel rate.
smeary10 2 months ago 42
@smeary10 lol, if they were already losing fuel,,, they wouldn't dump fuel... They were losing fuel, but that wasn't the main problem.. they could cross feed the tanks to balance up the plane..
afgrocks123 2 months ago
@afgrocks123 they needed to lighten the load to reach maximum landing weight.
wowzer12347 1 month ago
@wowzer12347 so that means losing fuel was not a problem...
afgrocks123 1 month ago
@wowzer12347 they were tons above the maximum landing weight.
Fisch269 1 month ago
@afgrocks123 umm no buddy, they still had to dump fuel to get down to there maximum landing weight
dAnB1892 1 month ago
@dAnB1892 exactly my point,,, if they had excess of fuel.. then they didn't have to worry about fuel... some people say their main problem was losing fuel :S
afgrocks123 1 month ago
@afgrocks123 - the problems were many. The biggest issue was an inbalance of fuel weight. They couldn't pump fuel into the damaged wing, which was losing fuel through the hole punched into it. Therefore, the A380 was becoming increasingly off balance. Regardless of where you want to pump fuel.
smeary10 1 month ago
@smeary10
The unbalanced aircraft would have been stabilised using the trim. the lighter left wing would cause the aircraft to bank right but it could be trimmed out with no problem so the aircraft will fly balanced without pilot input to constantly correct it.
The shutting down of the engine would have caused an imbalance also which is also easilly overcome by using trim.
ChuckMamuck 1 month ago
@ChuckMamuck Im sorry but trim will only do so much, do not forget about the United Airlines DC-10 that cartwheeled on touchdown in the states due to the number 2 engine failing which destroyed the aircraft's hydraulic systems, that plane needed the skill of three pilots to even get it back to the runway.
negamatt1 1 month ago
@negamatt1
Thats a hydraulic failure not an imbalance,destroyed hydraulics affect the operation of the control surfaces, if they fail you have serious problems. An imbalance is far less serious, if both engines fell from a wing then you'll struggle trimming that out but not a fuel imbalance. You can lose power in both same wing engines and still trim the aircraft to fly safely. It caused damage to surfaces, flaps and hydraulics but not failures, the AC was still under full control.
ChuckMamuck 1 month ago
@ChuckMamuck Ahh yes I see what you mean, there is quite a big difference between the two! But yeah its basically Thrust Asymmetry Compensation which deals with the trimming of an aircraft if there is an engine failure on one wing. Without it you may have to be hulk hogan to keep the plane straight lol
negamatt1 1 month ago
@negamatt1
LoL, yeah it wouldn't be an enjoyable flight experience, you would need a massage afterwards.
Trims really simple, it uses the control surfaces like the ailerons and just lifts or lowers them so they remain in that position when not in use. If the AC is flying stable with trim and you alter airspeed then the airflow over the surface changes so you have to re adjust the trim again, without it the pilot would constantly fight the controls. This pilot was cool under pressure
ChuckMamuck 1 month ago
@ChuckMamuck haha yes he was indeed! very pro :)
negamatt1 1 month ago
@negamatt1 That was United Airlines flight 232.....i remember the crash well.
4tb02gro 4 weeks ago
@smeary10 typical pilot in general. Pilots are extremely well trained, skillful, professional and calm under pressure no matter where they're from...also the reason why most pilots are male too.
RJSyeah 1 month ago
@RJSyeah You should insert the word "appear" before the word "calm" in your statement. There have been a number of times in my career where I have been feeling outright terror in the air. Any experienced airline pilot will have had the odd nightmare moment. It's training that gets you through. And by the way, some of the best and most capable pilots I have flown with were women.
Stangelycoloured 1 month ago
@Stangelycoloured hi, just curiopus as to what scary moments u had as a pilot?
thanks
mutedspy 2 weeks ago
@smeary10 The pilot appeared on tv later and said the tank transfer was not working.
johnnyfarnham 1 week ago
That's correct mate. I couldn't be fucked getting into the details of the multiple issues the pilot was facing in regards to fuel loadings and transfer across the aircraft to some of the muppets on this page who don't know a) the situation of this case & b) aerodynamics. But you're spot on. There was also a fore & aft fuel balance issue which was his biggest concern for approach (AoA). Obviously getting the fuel down to a landing weight, balanced, with the damage was a nightmare.
smeary10 1 week ago
@smeary10 but being an Aussie, he said "No wukkas" and got on with it :)
johnnyfarnham 1 week ago
yeah, everything´s just fine...
skazhiprivet 2 months ago
who's the newscaster ..she is beautiful!
CaliforniaJazzy 2 months ago
@CaliforniaJazzy I think her name is Isha Sesay
JayTray16 2 months ago
Yep your take off weight far exceeds your landing weight! This issue was handled according to proper procedure.
armigerlives 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
About ten major problems in mid-air flight with A380 airliners worldwide so far
(quite a bit scary)!;
MisterSunson 4 months ago
part of the check list was to formulate a means to stop the air craft on the runway..... they don't like to use brakes too hard, and is a bit dangerous to use them a lot because it really stresses all the landing gear .. so they took a while to formulate the safest landing, which included a lot of tyre braking...
isilder 4 months ago