started playing this game yesterday. Not so great, but it's great to be picking my way through postwar LA. If it were up to me, I would have written it like S.T.A.L.K.E.R, where the desolation and loneliness is punctuated by raw terror.
Seriously, you incompetant hick, just leave before you make more of a fool of yourself. Nobody cares how many copies sell, because unlike you, some people like things that AREN'T mainstream. It's posers like you that are ruining the gaming industy with your manstream views, and dictating ideals. You're pathetic, so just leave. You'll be doing yourself, and the rest of the world, a HUGE favor.
I totally agree with you man, this snake guy is nothing but an asshole who seemingly doesn't allow anyone to have their own opinion. or think it's bad to support a game that wasn't popular. So what, games get bad reviews. I LIKE many of these games that get horrible reviews because critics are dumbasses. They praise the horrible shit like Halo 3 and Modern Warfare 2 and all that popular but horrible shit, and bash what really has potential for those who can stand the minuses.
This song is simply amazing. The atmosphere is just great.
It really gives you a feeling of hopelessness, but at the same time it's "inspirational" in a way that sends a message across like... if you keep going no matter how hard it gets, you'll accomplish anything.
I absolutely loved the game, although I was kinda sad about how short it was.
I'm sure there's people out there that didn't like the game at all, but it was great in my opinion.
@snake2006 and you're entitled to that opinion, but just because you "think" the game was "crap", doesn't mean everyone else has to. Like you just did, I was simply expressing an opinion about how I feel about this particular song, and the game it was composed for. If you don't like either of them, then why are you wasting your time commenting on it?
@snake2006 Well isn't that just too bad for you then.
Because I support things I enjoy. I'm not saying I enjoyed the film, and I've never seen the TV series because it doesn't interest me, but I DO enjoy the game, as well as the soundtrack that goes with it. So calm down, and if you don't like it.... leave. It's as simple as that.
Oh... by the way... it would appear that by you commenting on this video... that's a form of support, because it's attention. So I guess it's prison for you then.
@snake2006 Did it ever occur to you that the number of copies sold (I don't care what for what game) are irrelevant to the fact that people are allowed to enjoy it?
Because regardless of what you say, I liked it, and there's nothing you can do about that. And I really could care less if you, or anyone else liked it. I already mentioned how short it was, and I could care less about "scores" and "sales". The fact remains that I like it. And if you can't handle that, then leave.
@snake2006 hahaha no. However, it DID occur to me that oppressive idiots like you are just pathetic excuses for human beings, and are a blight of the face of the earth. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with you. Maybe if you were a little less incompetant you would realize that. Like I said before... if you can't handle the fact that some people actually enjoy this, then LEAVE. Obviously there's more people than you think that like this; it got 41k views.
How can people say that this is better than the film OST ? This, although very beautiful, is another remix of the original T1 theme. Is this how close minded you all are ? Let's remix one song forever cause that's all we can do. I bet you didn't even give a chance to T4 theme. It's very beautiful. It's original. Appreciate that more than a remix.
And yes, it doesn't matter how good the remix is, it's the same song.
the terminator game should of been like Call of Duty only set in a future war with plasma guns and shit like the scenes from the first and second film of the future
I didn't find this game anywhere near as bad as people made it out to be (though I fully understand the frustration with the enemy models and loading times). The soundtrack is the best thing about it though
terminator salvation was meant to be a free roam stuiped they should have not been able to relase. it i say and they really want to bring back arnold he was the best terminator.
not to rai on anyones parade...... yes the game was horribly short, the graphics werent up to par, but u have to respect the people who tried to do this...... its better then letting the terminator games die..... i thought it was half decent it needed improvment but it wasnt that bad what killed it is that its too short and u cant play online....
i agree i thought this was be like the movie but this game is a piec of shit they should destroy this game its an isult to games and the terminater series
This game had bad visuals, like 5 different weapons and 5 different enemies. The story and voice acting sucked too.
The music was actually very good though, yet repetitive, and the cover system worked well.
There are miles better games out there these days that actually are longer than 2 half hours on hardest difficulty. My game time on this game is 4 hours yet I have 80 hours on Fallout 3. Do the math.
in 2 hours its inposible maybe 4 hours cause its not a game where you just can rush and its not only about the game time but to about the game play and all and its a good story and the gameplay they should use for more games
Im a huge terminator fan but i agree the game sucked ass, The only thing that even game it a chance was that they had a bit of the movie theme in it , the game was just duck and shoot , duck and shoot
terminator salvation the movie was awesome but got really bad criticism but everybody has their own opinions :) and the movie theme was hands down better than the game soundtrack
the game was awesome. just not enough replay value. my dad and i beat it on the hardest difficulty in 2 hours. yes we are nerds. 1000/1000 points on a single run on hard. and there was nothing to do after that.. i loved it because it was terminator.
I don't see why people think this is a bad game. It's fun and challenging on harder difficulties. Espacially when your being attacked by Spiders, Harvester's, HK's, T600's, T800's and Skinjobs.
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even this theme is better than the movie, i fucking hate the music maker of T4 movie, it should be the orginal theme but a bit diffrent, t4 didint even make enough money, like terminator 2 did.
true enough =D i heard the lil kiddo dun even liked to play it but his mum get him on it or who and from that tie he collected alot grammy prizes or wtf btw he looks ugly now =/ -.-
Anyone know where / how i can get the OST for the Game .. played the game.. kinda short and bit easy .. But the Music on the game was well worth playing thru..
now i just cant find any Music to download from the game :( help would be Great cheers in advance
Um, when Connor called for air support... it would have been perfect to stay on the resistance outside a little more and actually show them fighting off and holding a perimeter. :-) That's what i'm saying.
anyone else think this song is sort of sad? It gives you the feeling of one that is in the resistance, the seemingly hopeless war they are fighting. The war that they know they can't ever win, that the enemy will stop at nothing to destroy us all. But this song also gives a feeling that you must fight, no matter the hopelessness that is this war.
@Castletubevania What the F*** your talking about just joking your right actully just like when japanese people wanted to surrender the emperior told them to sucide instead for them i think life is shit right captured sucide captured sucide
captured + sucide = why the heck would they do that
Jesus, calm down. I'm just saying something and you have to comment and be a smartass know it all about everything? What I said has nothing to do with anything about it just what it makes you feel like. You don't have to go all know it all on me.
@Castletubevania I like that. It would've worked with the movie McG was pushing for; instead of the popcorn movie score Danny Elfman ended up scoring. Elfman did the soft guitar themes pretty well, though.
The music in the game is just incredible. I think the music in the movie is pretty good but the music in the game is just.........amazing. I mean at the end of levels they give you a pump up feel for Terminator, as a matter of fact the whole game does sorta suck but at least the music and the fact that you play John Connor gave you HOLY CRAP IM IN TERMINATOR FEEL
Saddly that's what happened. Saw T4 and believe me, it's like an ant when compared 2 T3, T3 was like LIGHT YEARS better, as bas as it was. The theme isn't even there so it SUX!! MCG IS A FUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
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Dude......the movie sucked, it was FAR worse than T3, it had a pathetic plot and countless plot holes contradicting Cameron's work. So STFU!! Lacking the theme makes it even worse. So the bitch here is u.
nice game but to easy and to short they did not to much work in to it that sad
MrBorymass 4 months ago
started playing this game yesterday. Not so great, but it's great to be picking my way through postwar LA. If it were up to me, I would have written it like S.T.A.L.K.E.R, where the desolation and loneliness is punctuated by raw terror.
stevecav1138 5 months ago
@stevecav1138 Couldn't agree more. Stalker was the bees knees of a desolate world.
rawrcalumx 4 months ago
esta de putamdre el tono, a decir verdad terminator es una de la mejores peliculas
thespidey1995 5 months ago
This music was the best thing in this entire game.
Video gama 0,5/10
Theme song - 9/10
dslmarvel 6 months ago
Ummmmm 9 dislikes ? Are you serious ? I think Skynet made 9 accounts and disliked this song!
JulianJuicebox86 7 months ago
poop
ms723 8 months ago
Such beautiful music...so sad that it's in a shitty game
snakelam26 8 months ago
Terminator will always be my favourite film..... always....
The1979Warriors 9 months ago
9 people were killed by skynet
OqEh123 9 months ago 5
@OqEh123 millions were killed by skynet
actor109 1 month ago
@actor109 i'm talking about the 9 dislikes
OqEh123 1 month ago
can i get a mediafire link for the game soundtrack, or filesonic or something. i cant find it anywhere thanks.
iiimadmaniii 10 months ago
@iiimadmaniii google and search: "download youtube video mp3"
Link this video there and its done :D
MrBombTube 10 months ago
a littel bit better than the REAL MOVIE THEME SONG!!!, if only it had a louder base and was more stable!
StuartTheGamerNerd 1 year ago
Seriously, you incompetant hick, just leave before you make more of a fool of yourself. Nobody cares how many copies sell, because unlike you, some people like things that AREN'T mainstream. It's posers like you that are ruining the gaming industy with your manstream views, and dictating ideals. You're pathetic, so just leave. You'll be doing yourself, and the rest of the world, a HUGE favor.
TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
@TheDefiler1989
I totally agree with you man, this snake guy is nothing but an asshole who seemingly doesn't allow anyone to have their own opinion. or think it's bad to support a game that wasn't popular. So what, games get bad reviews. I LIKE many of these games that get horrible reviews because critics are dumbasses. They praise the horrible shit like Halo 3 and Modern Warfare 2 and all that popular but horrible shit, and bash what really has potential for those who can stand the minuses.
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snake2006 1 year ago
This song is simply amazing. The atmosphere is just great.
It really gives you a feeling of hopelessness, but at the same time it's "inspirational" in a way that sends a message across like... if you keep going no matter how hard it gets, you'll accomplish anything.
I absolutely loved the game, although I was kinda sad about how short it was.
I'm sure there's people out there that didn't like the game at all, but it was great in my opinion.
TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
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snake2006 1 year ago
@snake2006 and you're entitled to that opinion, but just because you "think" the game was "crap", doesn't mean everyone else has to. Like you just did, I was simply expressing an opinion about how I feel about this particular song, and the game it was composed for. If you don't like either of them, then why are you wasting your time commenting on it?
TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
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snake2006 1 year ago
@snake2006 Well isn't that just too bad for you then.
Because I support things I enjoy. I'm not saying I enjoyed the film, and I've never seen the TV series because it doesn't interest me, but I DO enjoy the game, as well as the soundtrack that goes with it. So calm down, and if you don't like it.... leave. It's as simple as that.
Oh... by the way... it would appear that by you commenting on this video... that's a form of support, because it's attention. So I guess it's prison for you then.
TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
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snake2006 1 year ago
@snake2006 Did it ever occur to you that the number of copies sold (I don't care what for what game) are irrelevant to the fact that people are allowed to enjoy it?
Because regardless of what you say, I liked it, and there's nothing you can do about that. And I really could care less if you, or anyone else liked it. I already mentioned how short it was, and I could care less about "scores" and "sales". The fact remains that I like it. And if you can't handle that, then leave.
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snake2006 1 year ago
@snake2006 hahaha no. However, it DID occur to me that oppressive idiots like you are just pathetic excuses for human beings, and are a blight of the face of the earth. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with you. Maybe if you were a little less incompetant you would realize that. Like I said before... if you can't handle the fact that some people actually enjoy this, then LEAVE. Obviously there's more people than you think that like this; it got 41k views.
TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
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TheDefiler1989 1 year ago
i thinks it's sad... but a great piece of music...
MediaReview 1 year ago
How can people say that this is better than the film OST ? This, although very beautiful, is another remix of the original T1 theme. Is this how close minded you all are ? Let's remix one song forever cause that's all we can do. I bet you didn't even give a chance to T4 theme. It's very beautiful. It's original. Appreciate that more than a remix.
And yes, it doesn't matter how good the remix is, it's the same song.
TemplarOfNight 1 year ago
Oh, yea... I found it :)
gtavckillerkip 1 year ago
you suck
ShanaCupcake 1 year ago
man i love this music. it gives a good felling:D
nikki4562 1 year ago
i love this working of the terminator theme
ravenbez 1 year ago
if you have a save file on your ps3 (dunno if it works for xbox too) hover over it and this song plays and loops :) its quite nice
ravenbez 1 year ago
this song is very sad and also gives power to fight. that kind of future can be true. no one knows how will be look like the judgment day.
arturro1990 1 year ago
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Loved the movie...hated the game....only rented the game for 360 and ps3 for achievements/trophies
OstyStudios 1 year ago
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OstyStudios 1 year ago
this is actually superior to Elfman's lame ass theme.
xNikaXteeNx 1 year ago
@xNikaXteeNx So true.
heathbass 1 year ago
This was my favorite song, it was great in the game.
KnightChatX 1 year ago
beautiful
ivaerak 1 year ago
the terminator game should of been like Call of Duty only set in a future war with plasma guns and shit like the scenes from the first and second film of the future
punkrockmonk07 1 year ago
@punkrockmonk07
...Yeah, this movie had bullet guns, the others had purple blasts...ah well, I suppose that was the future that "coulda, shoulda, woulda".
DeltaSquad451 1 year ago
I didn't find this game anywhere near as bad as people made it out to be (though I fully understand the frustration with the enemy models and loading times). The soundtrack is the best thing about it though
Shindai 2 years ago 5
terminator salvation was meant to be a free roam stuiped they should have not been able to relase. it i say and they really want to bring back arnold he was the best terminator.
SpareyClan 2 years ago
not to rai on anyones parade...... yes the game was horribly short, the graphics werent up to par, but u have to respect the people who tried to do this...... its better then letting the terminator games die..... i thought it was half decent it needed improvment but it wasnt that bad what killed it is that its too short and u cant play online....
kaosknight123 2 years ago 2
@kaosknight123 I'm sorry but all this game was made to do was cash in on gamers who liked Terminator too. Sadly it worked on me =P
ihatealderney 2 years ago 2
i agree i thought this was be like the movie but this game is a piec of shit they should destroy this game its an isult to games and the terminater series
RAHIMI101 2 years ago
Come on =/ Calling this game good is an insult.
This game had bad visuals, like 5 different weapons and 5 different enemies. The story and voice acting sucked too.
The music was actually very good though, yet repetitive, and the cover system worked well.
There are miles better games out there these days that actually are longer than 2 half hours on hardest difficulty. My game time on this game is 4 hours yet I have 80 hours on Fallout 3. Do the math.
ihatealderney 2 years ago
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I'm sorry but fallout 3 is BORRRRING!!
how bout not comparing crap with crap of bigger quantities
why not compare crap with quality (like MW2)
yes mw2 is short but the quality and production value of the action rapes fallout3.
GridlokShock 2 years ago
well i liked it
m14g 2 years ago
and fallout 3 is a sandbox game
m14g 2 years ago
Fallout 3 is an RPG not a sandbox.
GTA and Saints Row are sandbox games.
ihatealderney 2 years ago
Fallout 3 is a sandbox too. Sandbox means free roam with no linear story path since you can take side stuff too.
C43oo5e 2 years ago
Actually, I now agree. Forgot how much of an open world it was - I guess I had a retard moment... XD
ihatealderney 2 years ago
@m14g Fallout 3 is kinda like Terminator.
Replace the super mutants with T-800s and the president (enclave computer) with Skynet.
123nitro 2 years ago
This should have been the main theme to the movie
d2eux 2 years ago 4
it sounds almost like an accompaniment, like theres no melody. which sucks cuz if it had that it would be amazing.
imbatman1995 2 years ago 4
The fact that you can complete a game u paid 45 pounds for in 2 hours on the hardest difficulty doesnt make it good lol its quite shocking
Davyleek 2 years ago
in 2 hours its inposible maybe 4 hours cause its not a game where you just can rush and its not only about the game time but to about the game play and all and its a good story and the gameplay they should use for more games
trunksxsx 2 years ago
great song! thanks for the download aswell :D
Vocarlb 2 years ago 2
i wish this song was longer with a little more something in it
804gdt 2 years ago
y din't they add this song too terminator salvation movie
Southman77 2 years ago 17
@Southman77 thats what i was saying ! They should of used this for the INTRO/Credits of the movie !
Julian1686 1 year ago
im glad somebody agrees lol this game cost me £45 and after playing it for an hour i would have gave it away
Davyleek 2 years ago
Im a huge terminator fan but i agree the game sucked ass, The only thing that even game it a chance was that they had a bit of the movie theme in it , the game was just duck and shoot , duck and shoot
terminator salvation the movie was awesome but got really bad criticism but everybody has their own opinions :) and the movie theme was hands down better than the game soundtrack
Davyleek 2 years ago
the game was awesome. just not enough replay value. my dad and i beat it on the hardest difficulty in 2 hours. yes we are nerds. 1000/1000 points on a single run on hard. and there was nothing to do after that.. i loved it because it was terminator.
elitefrontier2 2 years ago 2
I agree, and the trophies for ps3 for this game are so easy to get !!! Love the game, love the film, love the soundtrack, hell i love terminator!!!
seanyator 2 years ago
u got cool dad =) i dun have any phew =/ ...
MH20Zone 2 years ago
I don't see why people think this is a bad game. It's fun and challenging on harder difficulties. Espacially when your being attacked by Spiders, Harvester's, HK's, T600's, T800's and Skinjobs.
BBFalconShot 2 years ago
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even this theme is better than the movie, i fucking hate the music maker of T4 movie, it should be the orginal theme but a bit diffrent, t4 didint even make enough money, like terminator 2 did.
Meeltic 2 years ago
yep... this theme would have made a good movie theme for t4...
every review says how bad the game , but how insanely good the music ist. ^^
Xenitic 2 years ago
u knw why terminator 2 rocked? coz they showed the boy riding a dirt bike. that y it rocked
myronlee19 2 years ago
true enough =D i heard the lil kiddo dun even liked to play it but his mum get him on it or who and from that tie he collected alot grammy prizes or wtf btw he looks ugly now =/ -.-
MH20Zone 2 years ago
T 4 made 340 million dollars
trayu5 2 years ago
You hate Danny Elfman? The guy who made almost EVERY well known theme in movie history since the mid 80s?
lol. LOL.
The T4 theme WAS a variation of the orginal. People's heads were too far up their ass to notice.
masterpiraka 2 years ago
that game sucked!
mikeymike1960 2 years ago
The game is really baaad!
But the music's cool, though
Unit076 2 years ago 2
i like the sound of iron hits like darmms so any1 wanna tell me what musicis that
germackal 2 years ago
thank you, I love this version of the theme
myystars 2 years ago 2
i dont have it but i love this game
xboxboy312 2 years ago
Anyone know where / how i can get the OST for the Game .. played the game.. kinda short and bit easy .. But the Music on the game was well worth playing thru..
now i just cant find any Music to download from the game :( help would be Great cheers in advance
animus44 2 years ago
Get youtube downloader from the internet. some website. You can download any video!
lordpain007 2 years ago
YES! THANX FOR THE DOWNLOAD LINK!
jihaddante 2 years ago
You can hear the original theme in there if you listen.
mazim07 2 years ago
T1 is best because its the original
T2 is best because its just amazing
T3 fills in the story
T4 is good because we see the war
jackadrian2249 2 years ago 2
there is no real war... its just skirmish fighting
JLineProductions 2 years ago
It kind of has to be though... If it were all out fights, instead of guerrilla and skirmishes, the humans would lose.
masterofhobbiton 2 years ago
Um, when Connor called for air support... it would have been perfect to stay on the resistance outside a little more and actually show them fighting off and holding a perimeter. :-) That's what i'm saying.
JLineProductions 2 years ago
UR RIGHT, i been tryin to gett that out. fight whare t hurts most ya know. rather than go die
clyse88 2 years ago
anyone else think this song is sort of sad? It gives you the feeling of one that is in the resistance, the seemingly hopeless war they are fighting. The war that they know they can't ever win, that the enemy will stop at nothing to destroy us all. But this song also gives a feeling that you must fight, no matter the hopelessness that is this war.
Castletubevania 2 years ago 36
damn u took the words right outta my mouth i feel it in the song
livinferno 2 years ago
Amen.
Castletubevania 2 years ago
@Castletubevania What the F*** your talking about just joking your right actully just like when japanese people wanted to surrender the emperior told them to sucide instead for them i think life is shit right captured sucide captured sucide
captured + sucide = why the heck would they do that
TheUndeadSgtTv 1 year ago
@Castletubevania
1) The resistance is called Tech Com. Learn that already. It's mentioned in the first fucking film. God.
2) We already know that they won the war, Kyle said so.
3) T3 and Salvation are shit. T2 is the official ending.
snake2006 1 year ago
@snake2006
Jesus, calm down. I'm just saying something and you have to comment and be a smartass know it all about everything? What I said has nothing to do with anything about it just what it makes you feel like. You don't have to go all know it all on me.
Castletubevania 1 year ago
@Castletubevania
wow you said it all. your deep
airsoft6839 1 year ago
@Castletubevania *sniff*
That's beautiful man.
Mu91c14n 1 year ago
@Castletubevania I like that. It would've worked with the movie McG was pushing for; instead of the popcorn movie score Danny Elfman ended up scoring. Elfman did the soft guitar themes pretty well, though.
ThatGuyAdrianLF 11 months ago
@Castletubevania dude this song made my gf cry, so yes it is a morbid song
SSJ6shadowGoku 10 months ago
this is great. can you tell me please where did you find this game ost??
PLS PLS PLS PLS
MrRomiq 2 years ago
wat is the terminator feel
jokerisinme 2 years ago
i Love the Theme on the begining of the movie, anyone knows that theme or song?
DonChilenito 2 years ago
Its Danny Elfan "Opening" of Terminator Salvation i think. Youll find it here on YT.
darthjump 2 years ago 3
/watch?v=MlowZaVgPUM&feature=related
replace it with the one up. it has some strange pictures but you'll hear the song
legorocks3 2 years ago
search terminator slavation opening
hope this helps :)
jackadrian2249 2 years ago
yes it did thank you very mutch M8 ;)
DonChilenito 2 years ago
i really like that version it gives a different eeling towards the movie
lazanh 2 years ago
The theme in the game was pretty much the one from T2.
StoneColdWhat 2 years ago
but its a bit slowed down and doesn't have that searing fire sound.
evilmajikman 2 years ago
The music in the game is just incredible. I think the music in the movie is pretty good but the music in the game is just.........amazing. I mean at the end of levels they give you a pump up feel for Terminator, as a matter of fact the whole game does sorta suck but at least the music and the fact that you play John Connor gave you HOLY CRAP IM IN TERMINATOR FEEL
JJJuiceman1214 2 years ago 7
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do they use this theme at all in the movie if not to hell with it, iv given upm they fucked up t3 and now ther gna fuck it up again
gozlul786 2 years ago
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Saddly that's what happened. Saw T4 and believe me, it's like an ant when compared 2 T3, T3 was like LIGHT YEARS better, as bas as it was. The theme isn't even there so it SUX!! MCG IS A FUCKING SON OF A BITCH!
ganondorf59 2 years ago
T4 was much better than T3, stop being a bitch yous because of a single theme
LatinoBadass 2 years ago 4
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Dude......the movie sucked, it was FAR worse than T3, it had a pathetic plot and countless plot holes contradicting Cameron's work. So STFU!! Lacking the theme makes it even worse. So the bitch here is u.
ganondorf59 2 years ago
dude do you no where i can get the movie one ? thats good 2 and the film was fucking great :D
RobertLewisNeville 2 years ago
Its sad to say that this theme is better than the one they used in the movie . . .
ldl0021 2 years ago 9
FACT...
NavrasReaktor 2 years ago
I live in the Netherlands btw so I cant know
Gchaser7 2 years ago
is this Brad Fiedel melody gonna be in the movie to? I really hope so! It just makes terminator what it is.
Gchaser7 2 years ago 3
id like the one when u fight the HK, that is just epic:P
seanyator 2 years ago
yeah, ive got it and i love it, depends what ure into :P
seanyator 2 years ago 2
wheres the other theme? can u add it? its the at the last cutscene of the game.
randy7027 2 years ago 3
its nice
hows the game????
sidharthdj 2 years ago 9
its good just very short :(
johnlmao1 2 years ago 16
like bad company!!!
mikeyface1101 2 years ago
and they took out multiplayer.
xMikeyHardyx 2 years ago 3