the future walter created the machine specially for Peter and sent it to past,so that it will exist for the timeline wherein a crossover is done just like the future walter does and somehow the main goal is "healing" the past(present) to save present(future walter)..maybe the machine is not yet perfected it's only my guess
Alright I'm just going to talk myself through this. So peter apparently NEVER EXISTED after whatever he changed in this current timeline. As walter said the repercussions could be great if they made a different choice. Seeing as how walter and bell invented the alternate universe window anyways, they probably crossed over to get their tech but accidentally doomed the other universe. So their would still be motivation to cross over. But then how and why did they get there? Gah my brain hurts
This is maybe the best setup for the next season that Fringe has done yet! It leaves so much to be explored: the recovery of the memory of Peter in the minds of the characters (possibly via interacting with the Observers); the notion that both sets of characters (TWO BRANDONS!) will have to work together to fix both universes, jumping between them in each episode; the continual usage/existence of Alt-Charlie and the Lincoln Lees; possible time jumps to 2026 to discover the origin of time travel.
it always cracks me up when the baldy says "he never existed" ahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha it's the funniest thing that ever happen to me in a finale!! i've cried, i've been frightened, i've been surprised but i have never laughed so hard at a finale's final scene!! hahahaha WTF?? HE NEVER EXISTED?!?!?! ahahaha let's see how they're gonna explain this one!
chill people...the observer's said that of course they wouldn't remember peter because he never existed...BECAUSE they (or something else) removed him from that reality at that point, so he now no longer exists...but we the viewers know he did...
Great ending !! That was surpirsing... But if Peter never exist, why the machine exist, why Walter came to the other universe and why Walternate and others peoples are in our universe ?
How could everyone be standing in a room that has been turned into a bridge between universes by a machine built specifically for a man who never existed?
Yeah the producers said that baby Henry probably doesn't exit, and that even if Peter never existed, Walter and Bell were working on crossing over to the other side anyway, and would have eventually crossed over.
And we should have faith in the people behind the show. They've kept exceeding our expectations all these years, I'm sure we'll have a great story in Season 4.
@sourabhshetty but then how could the two universes be brought together in that room by a machine built for a man who never existed and yet was responsible for it being activated in the first place and sent back in time?
Add to that little ridiculous paradox, where did the broadcasts for the machine coordinates come from?
@Damon242 Oh I don't know. Let's see what explanation season 4 provides. Most shows claiming to be sci-fi actually qualify more as fantasy at times, and so I've found that overthinking them takes away from the awesomeness they can otherwise provide.
@Damon242 :) yeah i get what u'r saying but i think it's pointless bc it's a one way street ya know... i mean they throw the most insane things at us, real, unreal, possible or impossible!, they don't really care...as long as the characters believe it we're suppose to believe it too...they leave us to agonize with both questions and answers! it's JJ's AMO i guess... have u watched alias (fringe as a lot of it) or lost....
@SydAnneB I understand what you're saying too, and I did watch those shows. It's just when something this integral is brought up, a paradox in which a character doesn't exist, if it doesn't fit with everything we've seen in the show then it is a viewer's responsibility to argue it until it becomes one of either two things;
a brilliant twist, or a plot hole
I haven't minded them introducing past concepts because they made sense within the context of what we'd seen on the show, but this doesn't.
@Damon242 yeah i get it. i'm sure they're gonna make it fit...i have no idea how and frankly i dont wanna think about it but i'm sure an explanation is coming up...maybe what the observer said doesnt mean what we think or something...(oops i'm guessing :D damn it!)
The good thing about Fringe is it's always back within a few months after finishing a season, unlike other big shows that take a whole year to return.
Wait a minute... Peter DID exist! If not, then Walter never crossed to the other universe, the other side never collapsed, then Walternate wouldn't be at war with this side, Liv and Altliv never met, Henry never existed.. did the observer saved Peter's life in 2x15 so he could warn them now and then just "vanish"? He existed but no one remembers him.. now who thinks Altlivia is the father of her baby? :S
And now what? Are the two universes one? :\ I don't understand any of these, dammit..
@chipichop18 , The Fringe Producers talked about that William Bell and Walter Bishop were trying different means to cross to "over there", not just the vital point of Peter being the center of inter-universe predicament. In short, in Fringe-style fringe science, we can expect that Peter's existence is beyond science, more like inter-dimensional existence fail-safe, because Peter happened to cross from 2 universe, a human achievement and a focal point in a human standpoint.
So in the end, Peter was only an illusion created by the Observers, who brought the two sides to this current point in time. Would that mean that the real Peter over there died too? And what of Bolivia's son?
As great of an execution this was, I'm dismayed at the loss of Peter. Unless he's brought back (somehow) in Season 4, then his quips towards Walter shall be missed.
hahaha love it
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xxOFFICmadimooxx 3 days ago
so peter hold purpose was to bring the too universes together
3bowwow22 2 months ago
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This finale would have been great had peter completly been eraised. Having him return 4 episodes later just seems stupid.
bionicwfan 2 months ago
the future walter created the machine specially for Peter and sent it to past,so that it will exist for the timeline wherein a crossover is done just like the future walter does and somehow the main goal is "healing" the past(present) to save present(future walter)..maybe the machine is not yet perfected it's only my guess
browncoffee12 3 months ago
when i seen peter vanish i thought something was wrong with the tv
3bowwow22 4 months ago
I don't get it lol. Just saying but the writers better not leave the series ending as unfinished as they did for lost.
The ending for that series was retarded.
Alexplus20 5 months ago
if they vanish peter for real, they kill the show, just like it happened with The O.C. when Marissa was killed
raulpisko7 5 months ago
@raulpisko7 i know the o.c was never the same when she die
3bowwow22 3 months ago
OMG, I do not understand anything. First of all, there are many Universe, not just two of them! This is absurd!
If Peter does not exist, than the would not been in the same place and the same time. So the reason of Peter vanish is might be the third universe.
So his circle is not porposed I think.
JackKuros 8 months ago
Audience: Yay, almost all of our questions will be answered.
J.J. Abrams: Well, we can't have that now.
*Peter vanishes*
Audience: WTF?!?!?
J.J. Abrams: That'll keep 'em guessing.
TheWiseGuy784 8 months ago 9
@TheWiseGuy784 jj abrams hasnt wirtten for the show since the season 2 premiere.....
daspoon456 8 months ago
I can't believe they just pulled him out like that! Man, I hope he comes back in season 4.
Jk981206 8 months ago
hehe, fauxlivia seemed to agree with olivia ;) looking forward to seeing them both work together :D
Nozzebo 9 months ago
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Nozzebo 9 months ago
if there's no Peter, none of the last 3 seasons ever happened... so what the hell is Fringe going to be about now?
shaun3701 9 months ago
Wait. WHAT? J.J. HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME.
Eruaphadriel 9 months ago
Peter pulled a disappearing act! LOL!
TheHaloRed 9 months ago
Alright I'm just going to talk myself through this. So peter apparently NEVER EXISTED after whatever he changed in this current timeline. As walter said the repercussions could be great if they made a different choice. Seeing as how walter and bell invented the alternate universe window anyways, they probably crossed over to get their tech but accidentally doomed the other universe. So their would still be motivation to cross over. But then how and why did they get there? Gah my brain hurts
fanaticmoron 9 months ago
D:
aletmos 9 months ago
lol every time I see Walternate say "you shattered my universe", I immediately imagine him instead going;
"you sunk my battleship"
Damon242 9 months ago 5
This is maybe the best setup for the next season that Fringe has done yet! It leaves so much to be explored: the recovery of the memory of Peter in the minds of the characters (possibly via interacting with the Observers); the notion that both sets of characters (TWO BRANDONS!) will have to work together to fix both universes, jumping between them in each episode; the continual usage/existence of Alt-Charlie and the Lincoln Lees; possible time jumps to 2026 to discover the origin of time travel.
PaladinHero 9 months ago 2
Mind = blown.
SplashStarProduction 9 months ago
it always cracks me up when the baldy says "he never existed" ahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha it's the funniest thing that ever happen to me in a finale!! i've cried, i've been frightened, i've been surprised but i have never laughed so hard at a finale's final scene!! hahahaha WTF?? HE NEVER EXISTED?!?!?! ahahaha let's see how they're gonna explain this one!
SydAnneB 9 months ago
chill people...the observer's said that of course they wouldn't remember peter because he never existed...BECAUSE they (or something else) removed him from that reality at that point, so he now no longer exists...but we the viewers know he did...
shyisayoutbeaddict 9 months ago
Great ending !! That was surpirsing... But if Peter never exist, why the machine exist, why Walter came to the other universe and why Walternate and others peoples are in our universe ?
Very strange....
conol77 9 months ago
@conol77 lol try this;
How could everyone be standing in a room that has been turned into a bridge between universes by a machine built specifically for a man who never existed?
Damon242 9 months ago
everytime i watch fringe i get mindfucked in some way XD
animeghostgirl7 9 months ago
This was the most epic plot hole EVER!
Damon242 9 months ago
WTF what do all of this mean Peter never exits.Peter has to come back next season.
bigfan0071 10 months ago
D:
aletmos 10 months ago
Stop panicking. Peter is Obviously not gone for good.
Hells2TheYea 10 months ago
Yeah the producers said that baby Henry probably doesn't exit, and that even if Peter never existed, Walter and Bell were working on crossing over to the other side anyway, and would have eventually crossed over.
And we should have faith in the people behind the show. They've kept exceeding our expectations all these years, I'm sure we'll have a great story in Season 4.
sourabhshetty 10 months ago
@sourabhshetty but then how could the two universes be brought together in that room by a machine built for a man who never existed and yet was responsible for it being activated in the first place and sent back in time?
Add to that little ridiculous paradox, where did the broadcasts for the machine coordinates come from?
Damon242 9 months ago
@Damon242 Oh I don't know. Let's see what explanation season 4 provides. Most shows claiming to be sci-fi actually qualify more as fantasy at times, and so I've found that overthinking them takes away from the awesomeness they can otherwise provide.
I don't watch Fringe for the science.
sourabhshetty 9 months ago
@sourabhshetty Fingers crossed that they do justify the revelations and clarify on the apparently holes in season 4, and do so a.s.a.p.
I don't want to spend the whole season, likely to be the show's last, distracted from what's on screen by what happened in this finale.
Damon242 9 months ago
@Damon242 oh man, r u seriously trying to find a scientific explanation to anything that happens on this show? good luck with that ;)
SydAnneB 9 months ago
@SydAnneB Well, since they're discussing paradoxes within the show it's only fair that I too discuss the paradoxes they've introduced.
Damon242 9 months ago
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SydAnneB 9 months ago
@Damon242 :) yeah i get what u'r saying but i think it's pointless bc it's a one way street ya know... i mean they throw the most insane things at us, real, unreal, possible or impossible!, they don't really care...as long as the characters believe it we're suppose to believe it too...they leave us to agonize with both questions and answers! it's JJ's AMO i guess... have u watched alias (fringe as a lot of it) or lost....
SydAnneB 9 months ago
@SydAnneB I understand what you're saying too, and I did watch those shows. It's just when something this integral is brought up, a paradox in which a character doesn't exist, if it doesn't fit with everything we've seen in the show then it is a viewer's responsibility to argue it until it becomes one of either two things;
a brilliant twist, or a plot hole
I haven't minded them introducing past concepts because they made sense within the context of what we'd seen on the show, but this doesn't.
Damon242 9 months ago
@Damon242 yeah i get it. i'm sure they're gonna make it fit...i have no idea how and frankly i dont wanna think about it but i'm sure an explanation is coming up...maybe what the observer said doesnt mean what we think or something...(oops i'm guessing :D damn it!)
SydAnneB 9 months ago
@SydAnneB lol can't help it.
The good thing about Fringe is it's always back within a few months after finishing a season, unlike other big shows that take a whole year to return.
Damon242 9 months ago
@Damon242 yup, that's true although i hate the multiple interruptions through out the season :/
SydAnneB 9 months ago
@SydAnneB bah, yes. I hate those. First it's two weeks...then it's two months...then it comes back for three weeks and then goes on break again!
It is horrible. The real cost of being on Fox...
Damon242 9 months ago
Producer said "if Peter didn't exist, neither baby Henrry".
And he also say that "We love Peter as much as you do.He'll be back".
So don't panic people, i'm sure they will find a way.
Roy15x 10 months ago
Wait a minute... Peter DID exist! If not, then Walter never crossed to the other universe, the other side never collapsed, then Walternate wouldn't be at war with this side, Liv and Altliv never met, Henry never existed.. did the observer saved Peter's life in 2x15 so he could warn them now and then just "vanish"? He existed but no one remembers him.. now who thinks Altlivia is the father of her baby? :S
And now what? Are the two universes one? :\ I don't understand any of these, dammit..
chipichop18 10 months ago
@chipichop18 , The Fringe Producers talked about that William Bell and Walter Bishop were trying different means to cross to "over there", not just the vital point of Peter being the center of inter-universe predicament. In short, in Fringe-style fringe science, we can expect that Peter's existence is beyond science, more like inter-dimensional existence fail-safe, because Peter happened to cross from 2 universe, a human achievement and a focal point in a human standpoint.
flux717 9 months ago
So in the end, Peter was only an illusion created by the Observers, who brought the two sides to this current point in time. Would that mean that the real Peter over there died too? And what of Bolivia's son?
As great of an execution this was, I'm dismayed at the loss of Peter. Unless he's brought back (somehow) in Season 4, then his quips towards Walter shall be missed.
Cresticlesama 10 months ago
He'll be back, I'm sure ^^
aivenpro 10 months ago
We've lost Peter
keepingthetardis 10 months ago
This was a Epic and sick ending thanks for the Vid.
ThePrinceTrAg3dy118 10 months ago