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  • The two witnesses are the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT!!!!!!!read the bible.If you're all waiting for Moses And Elijah then you will see them on the very day Jesus Christ comes to this world.It will be too late to repent then.

  • wow i am speechless. It is impossible for me to help someone who is that far off

    from understanding the least little bit. Really sorry , but it takes a ton more than i can offer

    in a few written words. One of the reasons for what the 2 witnesses have to do.

  • @mbforex Are you talking about Me or him ?

  • Here are your 2 witnesses - OLD and New Testaments , Now hear the WORD of the LORD ! It is WRITTEN IN YOUR LAW ,what LAW ? The LAW that the Holy Spirit puts in your inward parts ! It is wriiten in your LAW that the testamony of two men is True. I AM one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of ME. Ye neither know ME , nor my Father,If ye would have known me [Witness} Ye should have known my Father also{Witness} Love your God with all your Heart,Mind , and Soul

  • In regards to that expression die once...you seem to forget that their will be those who will meet the LORD in the air at his return and are changed in a moment from corruptible to incorruptible.

    As you can see Elijah and Enoch are not the only ones. And if they would be the 2W that would me they attain the incorruptible body twice and that makes NO SENSE AT ALL.

  • that would be like saying that the incorruptible will be corruptible again. you are stuck with the sentence : it is appointed once to die...do you truly know what it means to go from corruptible to incorruptible like Enoch and Eliah did...do you think that any one would look at them lying in the street and celebrate....did you not notice that even future believers will celebrate their death. The overall actions alone in itself completely contradict that possibility.

  • THE TWO WITNESSES ARE ENOCH AND ELIJAH THEY ARE THE ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE WHO DID NOT PHYICALLY DIE. BOOK OF NICODEMUS

  • as you can see Moses and Elijah have already incorruptible body their for they are already beyond and the 2 witnesses will reach the same state once they are raised .

    Actually he did not say that Moses come. Also look at the events and better evaluate the possible mindsets of people with different options. 2 man holding a golden bowl between them. That probability is very remote. Think more like this: Adam/Eve and how are the covenants of salvation established.2 different wedding vows on earth

  • You people are still probably waiting for the locusts that have a king over them and hair like women and faces of men and stinging tails and smoke from a pit and for 5 months NO ONE CAN DIE????? Come on - wake up. These events are HIDDEN from you!!!!!!

  • And these 2 PERSONS are just going to stand around (I presume Jerusalem, but it says before the God of the earth) and they will just talk non-stop (about what-don't know-but it would only take about a week non-stop to read the bible out loud), while wearing a sack, for 1,260 days without taking a potty break or eating lunch, and when not talking (or during no sure here) or spewing fire from their mouth or turning water red. Then a beast will make war with 2 men and kill them. WAKE UP! Is. 43:10

  • Okay one of the witnesses is John Boyner but who is the other one?

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  • Jesus. Bound up the sins of your fathers and the spirit of truth. Wisdom. The other man has found the treasure. Wisdom. Vengence will be mine. The treasure and the feild have been paid for. The gift to be shared by ALL..God used the simple to confound the wise. Wisdom. You will not find a spirit in a book. Wisdom. BUT one can be mannafested. THERE ISNT BUT TWO WITNESS S TO THE TREASURE. WISDOM. JESUS WAS THE FIRST.????????????????????????­??????????????????????????????­??????????????????????? ROAR

  • Wisdom. Back to the story. ANOTHER man comes along and finds the treasure.And now the treasure is gaint pearls. Wisdom. Ask What are the gates of heaven.?Wisdom. ask what did Jesus bind up and put in the dark.?Book of James. For he is the light that dwells in the darkness. And not EVEN the world knows what this means. Wisdom ask. What is a treasure if not the truth of THE SPIRIT. Inthe begining there was darkness. God said let there be light.. The light is the treasure. The spirit of truth. ROAR

  • thetruthimpart 1. You say Jesus was with out sin. Wisdom. up into he was put on the cross. There he took away the sins of your fathers. BUT HE said for give them for they no not what they do. Wisdom. Jesus said you will pay for the sins of your fathers.

    Wisdom. Jesus tolld a story about a man who found a treasure. BUT he had to put the treasure back untill the feild could be paid for. Wisdom. Bfore Jesus was put on the cross. He said first I have to go into the dark to bind some THINGS up. ROAR

  • many will be called. Wisdom. To give false witness. What man knows the day of his birth on the day he is born. Or the first couple of years of his life or anything before this. Point A. The day he will die or anything after this. Point B. Nothing before nothing after. Wisdom, Jesus told you what you must do to become just like him. Wisdom ask. Why cant you walk on water.? Wisdom says your understanding of the works of Jesus is laking truth. False witness. Aint but two witness s ROAR

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  • THIS MUSIC IS EEEEE  VVVVV IIIIIII LLLLLLLLLLL

  • Hag 1:1 ¶ In the second year of Darius the king, in the sixth month, in the first day of the month, came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, saying, Dan 6:28 ¶ So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.

  • note plummet is in the hand Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel [with] those seven; they [are] the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

  • note the line and reed the reed is given to john in Rev 11:1 Eze 40:3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, [there was] a man, whose appearance [was] like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.

  • note heard and sealed but not written -Rev 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

  • @thetruthimpart I am God's witness. Nikola Tesla made earthquakes like a thief in the night and YOU are going to hell. So saith The Lord God. -Biblical Prophet

  • Bless you and I am my Lord Jesus' witness i confess my Lord Jesus is He who come the Flesh the Almighty all points as we are yet He is without sin and do testify He is Lord and Savior of the world and Jesus is My Lord God and my Father Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down [from above]:)

  • Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which (shall not taste of death, till) they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Jhn 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If (I will that he tarry till I come,) what [is that] to thee? follow thou me.21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If (I will that he tarry till I come,) what [is that] to thee?

  • note Go till the end -Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way (till the end [be]:) for thou shalt rest, and (stand in thy lot at the end of the days.)

  • the same with daniel heard but did not understand then told go until the end highlighted using parentheses -Dan 12:4 But thou, O (Daniel,) (shut up the words, and seal the book), [even] to the (time of the end:) many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Dan 12:8 And I (heard), but I (understood not:) then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] (the end of these [things]?)Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and (sealed till the time of the end.)

  • Note (the only place the little book could be is in John in which he ate and what he heard of the seventh angel he did not write but he heard then sealed up if John heard what was said and sealed them up then it can only be with John Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

  • there are two prophets that had there vision sealed to the time of the end one a prophet to babylon and the other to the churches one is told he must prophecy again the other told he would stand in his lot at the end of days which two are these.

  • spirit tells me ENOCH, Elijah, they'll show up beginning 7 year trib.Elijah has power to stop rain 31/2years 1kings,an Rev. temple will be built, if muslims protest, fire out of mouth will consume them, Then antichrist kills them,so it has to be PROPHETS who have never died,ENOCH, ELIJAH,3 1/2 years into trib. antichrist kills them and gos in temple and makes his self know as God, rules 3 1/2 years and then Jesus in all his Glory .THANK YOU JESUS

  • Any Prophet from God is a witness.

  • I recommend Richard Perry's publication "The Last Days" It is well written and well thought out and it is largely above Christian dogma and doctrine which is full of mistakes.--SERIOUS MISTAKES.

  • Richard Perry's work is brilliant All should be familiar with his work. The two "olive trees" and two "lamp stands" are two major Prophets. That is the "Return Chist" to establish the kingdom will be with two Prophets. Where the first one functions something like John the Babtist. They are not Elijah and Mose but similar in relationship, This is a great mystery

  • Great video!

    There's a very good possibility that these two prophets of God may be revealed to the world this year. The end is nigh!

  • Are there people left who believe this Shite still??

  • They will probably be killed around the time we celebrate Christmas since after their deaths the whole world will see them dead in Jerusalem and people will be so glad they're dead that they'll give presents to each other.Hum.

  • The two witnesses: Jewish-Christians & Gentile Christians !!! The martyrdom of the "Body of Christ" by Roman swords!!! Again,the Book of Revelation was meant for 70 AD - 140 AD !!! It has been fulfilled and actually it is simply a natural observation of events and nothing supernatural !!! I am telling you the truth !!! John was expecting a repeat of prophecy like Jeremiah's days before the babylonian captivity. I will soon explain this on my board and profile.

  • @cris750 Catholic view. Go read this book Gentile Witness

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  • Revelation 11 has already taken place. Stop with this Dispensational Futurism doctrine. Revelation is a book of code. They are not literal men. Think about it for a while.

  • Antichrist is the Papacy. Anti means "in place of" or "substitute". The Pope makes this claim.

  • Elijah is one of them. Malichi in the last chapter of the old testament mentions him. And jesus said in matthew that john the baptist was like the elijah to come. I know that elijah is one it doesnt mention the secound person in any book. It may be enoch, it may be moses. Moses died a natural death but he appeard at the transfiguration of jesus with elijah. And the secound whitness will have the same power moses did. Turning water into blood famines ect.

  • Wrong!!!!

  • I think that the two witnesses are the two Comforters spoke of in the Bible. Jesus was one, and he spoke of another, and I think he said, even greater Comforter. I believe they have already incarnated as 'Regular' Humans and are here to both be a part of Humanity at the end, while comforting 'Telepaths' via their thoughts, known already to them. That it is they, Jesus Incarnated and the 'Other' Comforter, both known, whom are both The Comforters & The Witnesses!!!! For those who have ears!

  • the two witnesses are `Enoch` and `Ellijah`as spoken in the bible and in the dead sea scrolls` for GOD took them up alive to heaven in their bodies` they will be sent by Jesus back to earth to resist the antichrist `and the beast was mortally wounded`and `the beast will slay them in the streets` of jerusalem think of mortal kombat fire procedth out of their moths so that any one wanting to harm them in this way they must be slain so the two are allowed to defend theselfs mortally against enemies

  • They are : Bab and Baha'ullah.  See my playlists.

  • shite

  • The 1st Witness of Revelation is HERE NOW...

    ...he is also the endtime Elijah...

    visit ZionMinistry dott comm

  • After 3.5 years of no rain, when the two witnesses are killed...many people (the unsaved) will be celebrating and giving gifts to each other. They will THEN say, "peace and safety" and destruction will come upon them from the beast system. I could easily be wrong about this but overall it makes more sense to me.

  • I request that you read my second post first.

  • The half way point (A of D) is at the 5th trumpet. This is because at the 5th trumpet, when Abbadon (Apollo of the space aliens-- we will be told-imho) comes out of the pit; he will immediately kill the 2 witnesses. If you were him why wait 3.5 years to do it at the end?

    Therefore the two witnesses will finish their testimony at the fifth trumpet- the half-way point of 7 years (imho).

    This has been my opinion for several years after some study.

  • @1stevah Satans days arnt numbered until after the two whitnesses are destroyed. Thats when the dragon fights michael. (so the 7 year theory of daniel is just a widely interpited verse that can apply to any time period.)

  • Now, for a change of scenery...I think that the two witnesses will come during the first half of the 7 years. My reasoning is as follows: Generally (with the exception of God's wrath) all the "biblical-Egyptian" type plagues are in the first half of the tribulation- no rain water to blood, etc. (first 3.5 years). The first half of the 7 years belongs to God, the second half to the anti-christ/beast system.

  • Matthew 17 shows the mountain of the Transfiguration to be a literal time porthole where Moses and Elijah appear with Jesus, as Jesus is revealed as Messiah. This adds the greatest weight to expect that in the mystery of time and space, the opening that opened there, is again to open for the second coming, and play a greater role, that the first appearance of Moses and Elijah into that future time

    of Matthew 17. Moses symbolizes the Law, Elijah symbolizes the Prophets.

    Law and Prophets

  • Beast from Abyss is Islam. Rev, 9;11 describes him as the ''destroyer'' Allah's name.

    It will be Islam that forces the mark of 666 in the forehead. Allah's # is 666. The coming Mahdi is the coming anti-Christ. 

  • Maitreya kills them?

  • If your right Hoover, then how can their dead bodies be lieing in the street? And this says "two witnesses". But then maybe one from each group. I don't know. But in Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. So could it be John? But I'm just quoting scripture and I don't understand alot of it. If moses was transfigured, could he actually be killed? Flesh and blood can't get into the kingdom of heaven, where is he?

  • @10wynne

    wrong on three counts.

    Enoch was taken into heaven bodily("he was and then was not.."),Moses was buried by God Himself, & Jesus shows Himself to Thomas, tells him to put his finger in His wounds & asks that they bring Him something to eat to show He wasn't a spirit or ghost.

    This is what happens when you learn about the Bible vicariously(or by osmosis)instead of actually reading it for yourself. ya wonder how many 'c' christians will accept the mark because they haven't been "raptured"

  • The lampstand is the Faithful in Christ. (that's one witness) The Olive Tree is Israel. (that's the other witness)

  • it does not say the two witnesses will be men. . however one will be elijah as was John the baptist who had the spirit of elijah. So this spirit will come again along with another .  Christ will return after they fulfill their ministry. However if the anti christ is in the world then these witnesses must also be. Wouldnt you think.

  • to delete all the babylon and negative energy the two witnesses are EliyYahuw(Elisha) and Chanowkh.

    Shalowm.

  • why cant god make all of us witnesses

  • Elijah and Moses are the two witnesses, proven by scriptures too.

  • Amen, I used to say God why am I hear before I even read Revelation 11...Then when I read it I said "oh". The bible is very arrcurate and ture. The words are turly inspired by God.

  • WRONG, Enoch is the second witness Not Moses

  • @MrRainbowbridge1 Wrong? Prove me wrong.

  • @MrRainbowbridge1 The Two Sackcloth Witnesses are called The Lamp Stands and The Olive Tree. The Bible says The Olive Tree is Israel. The Bible says the faithful in Christ are The Lamp Stand. Christians have been graphed onto the Olive tree. Both are lights in a dark world. The Faithful in Christ and The House of Israel are the Two Sackcloth Witnesses. We are "The Woman in the Wilderness."

  • Both are dead, Enoch lived 365 years then Yahweh took him in death, not to heaven. Elijah was transported to another place, just like Phillip was, not to heaven. Scriptures prove this.

  • Enoch and Elijah!

    Enoch pleased God and so God took him, and Elijah was taken by chariot of fire...They are the once who are'nt dead yet

  • Is are God a God of the living or the dead?

  • Are you saying they're not Moses and Elijah?

  • No.

  • Then what is your point?

  • what are you talking about?

  • "Is God a god of the dead or the living?" - What is your point? How is it related to the two witnesses?

  • Both are dead, Enoch lived 365 years then Yahweh took him in death, not to heaven. Elijah was transported to another place, just like Phillip was, not to heaven. Scriptures prove this.

  • Enoch and Esau are the witnesses

  • @kingofkings681 Prove it.

  • @zippcodey Read Genesis.

  • @kingofkings681 Like I said PROVE IT, I've read Genesis many times.

  • @zippcodey Enoch Never Died Dumb ass. just read Genesis

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  • Sure, there is some symbolism in the Bible but how do you explain the fact that they have bodies and die and lie in a street if they're not people?

  • @ghaduir I deleted my first comment because it seemed condescending the way I wrote the questions in it. I apologize for that. My personal opinion is that it is symbolism and I don't pretend to be an expert or have the correct answer. So I will leave the conversation as is.

  • you keep the faith, and let the word of God speak for itself. Do not listen to everyones opinions. They go after things that tengls there ears and not things that pleases God!

  • Amen to that.

  • And they aren't selected by God "when that time comes" like a lottery, as if the worst sinners got to punish the world.

  • If they were any of those past people, why aren't they called by names?

  • I think the two witnesses are Enoch and Elijah. Both ascended to heaven, without death, and God said all men must die once. Moses although great and wonderful, died. Just my thought

  • I thought you should know this, though The Lord has already said this let it be heard today, that you may understand "He is not the God of the dead but of the living." Amen

  • Moses did not appear before his time, yet he did come.

  • Enoch walked with god and was taken. the same with Elijah. moses is not the witness. and the AC does not even appear until after the Enoch and Elijah are killed by the one world government

  • Why does everyone need to believe that they are people of the past?

  • Continuation of 1st post...Every man according to the Word of God must physically die once (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 3:20, Hebrews 9:27), then this could suggest that since Enoch and Elijah never physically died then they very well could be the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation 11. They would physically die by the hand of the beast (antichrist and followers)-Rev. 11:7. Rev.11:10 mentions the phrase "these two prophets." There are two witnesses and they are prophets killed in Israel.

  • how sure are you?

  • This is a good point, but here is another to consider that hasn't been mentioned. All mankind are appointed to die once, God's word doesn't contradict itself.....Here is the scripture: Hebrews 9:27: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. There are two individuals in the entire Word of God who never received death. These two are Elijah (2 Kings 2:1, 2:11, Malachi 4:5). The other is Enoch (Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5). These two may be the two witnesses.

  • I do not know of anyone, especially Jews, who speak in "half days". I believe 3 1/2 days refers to half of the 70th week of Daniel. The two witnesses, I believe, are responsible for some of the plagues listed in the first four seals. They are killed "mid-trib" and the Great Tribulation begins because there is no longer any obstacles limiting the antichrist's actions. After 3 1/2 years they are resurrected at the second woe. God's wrath is about to be wrought.

  • I think they will be, two guys from place that no one expected them to be. There's possibility that no one from Christians will help them, they will not sees that they are. By the way, Kurt Cobain already performed in sackcloth. And yes they will appear in New York, 9/11 replacement. Probably very soon. One 'have' Elijah spirit in Him, second Moses.

  • the two lampstands are the old and new testaments folks.that which brought light etc...a witness is someone who lives thru it all or they arent a witness.one has to be from the old and one from the new testaments.a disciple is mentioned in one gospel of neber tasting death.hellooo..the other is harder to figure see proverbs 25-2 and consider the controversy surrounding the death of moses.they are john and moses.message me and illexplain to the devout only please-11000 study hrs here

  • my friend slow down. a witness is someone who seen something. Jesus said thorugh paul this would happen in the last days. " They will have a form of Godliness but deny its power." understand that these two "Men" will prophecy for 1290 days cloathed in sackcloath.

  • I'm here

  • who do u work for?

  • when you post a comment on youtube, they ask you to type an image of random letters for verification. The verification image I had to type was 'elijah'. That's strange idc who you are lol.

    gotta love those aliens...

  • Enoch elija and moses were part of the last saga. They are not coming back this time. elija isn't even human. Think about a 'jesus christ' sequel in contemporary context. Jesus Christ and his disciples (jesus christ and his best friends) were just hippies smoking pot and taking mushrooms. Think about these same people being alive again today in different bodies. Check out the southland tales prequel saga by Richard Kelly

  • i see perry removes another one of my comments

  • Elijah and Moses.....2 Witnesses....

  • Enoch And Elijah are the two witnesses

  • Rev 11, one witness turns water to blood (this was Moses againsat Pharoah)

    2nd witness ability to control rains (this is Elijah)

    Nust have atleast TWO witnesses to witness against Brethern. These 2 are called to witness against churches,false prophets,false teachers. If it is not of faith then it is of sin before God.

  • Brethren quit making this complicated.

    Moses and Elijah will be the 2 witnesses...

  • Yes to Moses and Elijah, two edged sword of god, one for deliverance and other judgement, starting against world church system that lifted law over grace.

    Law could not save them and song of Moses testfies against existing churches as does the Blood,water and Spirit., song of the lamb. Mystery babylon and her daughters are the flase prophet ,false teachers who lift another Way by law not that of grace attained by Faith. Man was callled to leave it all in Faith as Abraham and trust God leads

  • mystery babylon is america. the two witnesses are Elijah And Enoch

  • "The two witnesses mentioned (Rev.11) are the two Testaments...In that language of Latine, wherein they have bene used most, these 1200 yrs. & more, they are called 'Testamenta' from the word 'Testis', which is to say 'a Witnesse'...the 1260 prophetical days, 42 months, 3.5 times signify '1260 Julian years'." [John Napier, A Plaine Discovery of the Whole Revelation of St. John, p.32,24,25]

  • Precisely!

    I made a video concerning just this.

  • Matthieu Cottiere (Cotterius) (fl. 1625) in his "Manual or Brief Description of the Church of Rome", states that the Two Witnesses (Rev.11) are the Old and New Testaments (p.88), and that they extend over a period of 1,260 yrs.(p.89). This is the same 1,260 yrs. that the woman was nourished in the wilderness (Rev.12) and also the 'time, times, and dividing of time' , which means so many years (p.80). There is clearly a history of recognizing the day/year principle during the Reformation.

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  • read isaiah ch 51 vrs 18 those will be mortal men moses and elijah won't have to die again as they are glorified and can't die by some islamic or moslim pervert

  • It is important to recognize the day/year principle when attempting to examine the prophetic books of Daniel and Revelation. See my comments.

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  • Who here believes the two individuals are a interpretation of a heavenly body which will progressively change are outlook of visual

    colors under the sun.

  • Another false prophet misrepresenting the clear Word of God. First of all, there is nowhere intimated in the text of Scripture that the 'great tribulation' is a 7 year period; people get that from a misinterpretation of Dan.9:24-27 (the famous 70 weeks). Second, the 'two witnesses' are called 'the two olive trees' and 'the two candlesticks'. Obviously these are symbolic terms. The answer as to who these are is found in Zechariah chapter 4. Read it and you will have your answer!

  • rev 11.8 and their dead bodies will lie in the streets of that great city!!!

  • Again, if you don't know what the 1,260 days represents, you will not understand the 'two witnesses'(Rev.11) or the 'woman in the wilderness' (Rev.12), or the 'sea beast' (Rev.13:1-10). Many Protestants who were heavily involved in the study of eschatology saw the 1,260 days as literal YEARS. This is where dispensational/futurism falls apart. They fail to acknowledge the day/year principle, unless it fits their private interpretation.

  • No, I mean the rapture theory is false @ has nothiing to do with the resurection! 2 seperate events! The triblation is upon us - we are in a grace period while the 14000 r being sealed in the forehead with the knowledge of total truth that has been hidden in front of s in plain sight! We are here @ we need no prophecies 2 B fulfilled before all hell breaks loose! Everything is in place 2 b implemented soon at their designated rituals. People r weeping,wailing @ nashing of teeth! PEOPLE NOT HEAR?

  • Hi, SPLENOROUS,

    1 Thess 4:13-18 & 1 Cor 15:49-52 are on the rapture and resurrection. The 2 events are to happen at the sounding of the last trumpet. The resurrection of believers comes 1st, & after that the believers who remain will be caught up to be w/ Jesus forever. That "caught up" bit is the rapture. The rapture is a biblical concept. You don't believe in a rapture that happens before the tribulation, but you must believe in a rapture if you believe the bible. Peace, brother.

  • Rapture is a false! Tribulation is upon us! 2 witnesses are prophecing-14000 r witnessesing! They r the conspiracy theorist! They have unveiled the serpent @ it's seeed @ reveiling their plan for nwo @ antichrist! Antichrist is in power- when the 1 who restrains him (usa) is destroyed! The chip is the mark! We will be nuked soon! WILL WE LISTEN 2 THE 2 PROPHETS? WHAT IF THE MESSAGE IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR? IT WILL BE THE SAME MESSAGE AS THE 144000- WILL U RECONGIZE THEM? WILL U TURN? REALLY

  • You mean the "Pre-trib rapture" is false, SPLENOROUS. You believe in the rapture, if you believe in the resurrection, as I imagine you do. I have to say you are mistaken if you think we are in the tribulation right now. No prophecy about the tribulation has come to pass at this time.

  • The word rapture refers to a event of its timing and midway in the air carrying away something in a delightful event.

    For example like carrying on are wayward sun. When the sun makes its way midway north of the equator in between 3 days of December which are the passover days and or 3 days of darkness.

  • EightPointsKeyxII, you are right that the rapture will be delightful event. I apologize tho, I don't understand how the remaining part of your comment is relevent.  Please exand on it.

  • Anyone notice I used de->lightful?

    The belief system was designed to mimic the heavenly body by writing dates and events physically - visually to are self. Tho we lost the concept that at one time we looked outward for answers but found time itself.

  • EightPointsKeyXII, Thanks for the reply, but I'm afraid I'm still as confused as I was before.

  • We await for someone to take the physical role of being the image of light and reflection of the sun/star. The time and moment when the rapture occurs will mark the "squaring circle" changes by breaking down the physical foundation by the heavenly body of the father -> golden - age once again.

  • We've been waiting for are self's.

  • EightPointsKeyXII, thanks for another reply. Unfortunately I'm as confused by it as I was by the first one. Is the bible your only scripture, or do you have other texts or personal revelations that you esteem? What you say could be interpreted as biblical, but the terms you use are not common Christian references. You'd be easier to understand if you use words that are commonly used to convey Christian ideas.

  • We await for someone to take the physical role of being the image of light and reflection of the bright morning star. Through this moment in time when the physical foundation meets the elements of the heavenly body complete the key of squaring the circle. He's whom is relative to that of David holds 7 stars.

  • EightPointsKeyXII, again, no comprende. Since you refuse to give any statement of your overall beliefs & what scriptures you revere & you continue to speak in murky jargon, I'm going to have to write you off as another buffet line spititualist. Thats a person who reads the bible w/ 1 eye & reads astrology charts w/ the other. If mistaken, please explain what your saying in plain English & state the bible verses that support you. I'd love it if I were wrong & I'd be quick w/ an apology.

  • My research and collective visual thinking is off of the old concepts. We have to look at the oldest drawings and structures with meaning and cause. The art work is like a library of knowledge that connects both plans together. The bible is a collection of many concepts that have been past down. The dates such as days of the week, holidays and heavenly body's had physical representations of them. Tho the bible doesn't directly link deity gods but stats no singularity In Daniel 11.36.

  • no such rapture, false doctrine

  • Rev.7. Jewish Holocaust. Rev.8 Tru Noble in Russia /in English True Noble'see 3 mi Island. Rev 9. Desert Storm . We are in Rev. 10 NOW. It makes no difference if you believe my interpretation or not because when Rev 11 is fulfilled it will be displayed Worldwide. Christ doesn't appear but his voice will be heard Worldwide when he says COME UP HITHER. The 2nd verse says the Witnesese are GENTILES /They can't beJews. By saying it's Moses your denouncing the Word Of God.

  • They r not moses @ elijah-did they become christians? They r like unto them NOT them! They will be hated @ world parties when they die-144000 r witnessing to the same message! Most will absolutely bow @ their MUST be a faliing away from ALL present beliefs systems- before they can accept the total truth that the 2 @ 144000 r witnessing to! If christians r raptured then - the world would reconize this, realize they were wrong @ repent! YOU DO NOT DECIDE WHO THEY ARE-THEY WERE CHOSEN BY CREATOR!

  • Zech 5 :1thru 4 tell who the two witness are; they are the flying scroll, the curse that convits us all ; the word of God.

    The 42 months, 3 1/2 years, 1260 days are prophetic days all refering to the same period of 1260 years. That ended in 1798. Then the French Revolution burned the bible and banned it for 3 phrophetic days or 3 years. They slayed 50,000 Calvinists or Hugenos there in one day. Yahshua said what ever you do for these you do for me. So they killed Yahshua there in Paris.

  • There's a problem with the French revolution thing though: The whole world didn't rejoice about it did they? And the bible wasn't caught up into heaven never to be seen again was it? And what of the worldwide plagues that the true witness unleash? Does the bible do this as often as it desires to?

  • The world does rejoice the French Revolution .. Liberty was the god that they crowned, and in her hand were the Rigths of Man. The Bible was caught back up into to heaven through the ones who followed the Kingdom of Heaven. Which were the Puritans, Waldensias, and the Adventists and many more. The Plagues; were during the time of the reign of the 1260 years, and the Bubonic Plague hit Eurpoe to the tune of 1/3 of the whole population. Over 100 million died during the Plague of early 1300.

  • Tell me then... when did the 1260 years end? What year? Because it would then be a case of adding another 1260 years to add the final half of the great tribulation. This would then give us an approximate date on when the Lord is to return. Thanks.

  • All of the quotes in the bible that speak of the 1260 years, or 42 months, or 3 1/2 years of days; are talking about the same time period, that began in 528, when the Pope of Rome was given supremacy over the Western Roman Empire by decree of the Emperor in Constantinople. The Pope ruled Western Europe with an iron fist for 1260 years, until Napoleon's General Belisarius arrested the Pope, tore the empowering ring from his finger in the year 1798, So the Pope died in house arrest.

  • that is way off to say ..... the 2 prophets already did their time. We all will watch when this day happens, it has not happend yet....an no one knows who the 2 will be. Any answer is a guess thats all A GUESS........

  • Rev 11[4] These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

    Zech4[11] Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

    Chapter 5 shows it is the word of God. The old and new testament, or the Law and the Prophets. The symobl of Yahshua in heaven between Moses and Elijah is the same picture. With Yahshua as the light, and Moses the law, and Elijah the Prophet.

  • There are 3 primary viewpoints on the identity of the two witnesses in Rev. 11:3-12: 1. Moses and Elijah; 2.  Enoch and Elijah; 3. two unknown believers whom God calls to be His witnesses in the end

    times. Your theory of Moses and Elijah is plausible as the two witnesses have power to turn water into blood (Rev. 11:6), which Moses is known for (Exod. 7:20) and possess the power to destroy people with fire (Rev. 11:5) which Elijah is known for (2 Ki. 1:10-12). Good video!

  • John the Baptist was Elijah to come but he didn't even know it. The Lord did but didn't tell him. Therefore it is plausible that the two witnesses may not know who they are. Let alone other people! True, Elijah was to come again in the last days. Fire yes, but not from heaven. The false prophet of Rev. 13 will be doing that kind of thing. This fire is something else. Possibly the Word of God (Jer. 5:14).

    God chooses the weak and lowly so that no man can boast or glory in His presence.

  • Actually if you are going to post the Word, at least know what you are talking about. The correct translation does not say MEN,it refers to the prophets as these and they...never giving them a sex title. Go back and do your research.

  • So what are u sying?

  • The Lord said of Jezebel that she called herself a prophetess (Revelations 2:20). In the OT there were true prophetesses (Miriam, Deborah), and false ones (Jezebel, Noadiah). They were all women. The two witnesses are indeed two men.

  • the original individuals Enoch and EliYahs will return, and no one else, in their place, or in the spirit of them as Yahcanan/John came in the spirit of EliYahs. not this time, it is these men and no one else.

  • You are right about John but think about this, he did not even know he was Elijah to come. He was the greatest to be born among women - he didn't know that either. Think about this: the Lord knew these two things about John but didn't tell him, the greatest man ever to be born? Why?

    Therefore who told you the it is Enoch and Elijah who are the two witnesses? You're certainly not the greatest man to be born of a woman. Do you understand?

  • If you read the many sacred scripture, they plainly let you know that the 2 witnesses are Enoch and Elijahs. They are the 2 olive tree that stand before YHWH. These 2 never died, for YHWH took them, therefore, when they are killed and lie died for 3 days, this is the first time they would have died to be raised up from death and be again received into glory. It is not Moses, This is not an allegory,