Against All Authority - Bakunin

[TheGuinnessboys]

lol but fuck it! this song is still awesome!

[TheGuinnessboys]

anarchism is unrealistic and alot of people that get into it are pretentious. we can barely wipe our own asses sometimes what makes you think we can govern ourselves?

[anarcrustie]

@TheGuinnessboys is government better?

idunno, i guess i'm just a really pessimistic anarchist. i don't know if anarchy will ever happen, and it might even be shitty, but i'd rather question and fight the established order than bow to it. even when we lose (which is a lot) we often taste moments of freedom in the struggle, which is perhaps the best that's possible?

[adamla11]

Kropotkin's better.

[nosorog91]

bakunin was utopian pan-slavist who put his race above others especially germans

[just2pissyouoff]

@nosorog91

not another one!

[nirvana2295]

who the hell cares!!

[Vulturu]

bakunin was an anti-semite. all anarchists today kiss jew ass but still they say bakunin was a genius. i don't get it. he hated jews as much as hitler lol

[HeadHunteR1988]

@Vulturu this was prudhon.. not bakunin..

[Vulturu]

@HeadHunteR1988 bouth of them were anti-semites. and flaging my comment won't change that.

Bakunin:"This whole Jewish world, comprising a single exploiting sect, a kind of blood sucking people, a kind of organic destructive collective parasite, going beyond not only the frontiers of states, but of political opinion, this world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other.."

[HeadHunteR1988]

@Vulturu dude you have to consider that he speaks about zionists... not simple jews.. jews can be proletarians comrades.. zionists are capitalists bastards who need to be destroyed...

[Vulturu]

@HeadHunteR1988 he said "this WHOLE jewish world"... it looks pretty clear to me... second to that 99% of jews are/or support zionists...

[HeadHunteR1988]

@Vulturu nope..

[Vulturu]

@HeadHunteR1988 all jews supporting Israel or the idea of a jewish state can be considered zionists. read about zionism and it's goals before and after 1948...

[AtheistAnarchoRudi]

@Vulturu im a "jew", my family died in the holocaust, israel is bullshit, judaism is bullshit, the term is just another dividing line. read the bible, it says all homosexuals should be put to death on their own hands. this is immoral. a jew who actually follows this book of fairy tales deserves debate, as does any opinion regardless of its validity. not all jews like israel. a lot that i know hate it.

[Vulturu]

@AtheistAnarchoRudi I know that. that's why I said "99% are/or support zionists" and not that "all jews are zionists". There are some ortodox jews and some atheist ones that doesn't agree with israel. And read my first comment about Bakunin's oppinion regarding jews. Proudhon also had the same ideas. Irronicly you are a anarcho-jew... It's like a nazi-jew.

[AtheistAnarchoRudi]

@Vulturu the 99% is inaccurate as well, it is an irrational and hasty generalization. i would say 90% and that is pure estimate. being an anarcho jew makes sense(i was born into a cult, then i got out), being a nazi jew does not. i know this one jew who is religious and an anarchist, claiming that the garden of eden is what we should strive for in regards to political affairs.

[NewVinland]

@AtheistAnarchoRudi Welcome aboard. I always respect former Jews like yourself speaking out.

[NewVinland]

@Vulturu Most definitely he knew that the Jews were a capitalist class. He spoke specifically against the Rothschilds and even Marx.

[Vulturu]

@NewVinland he spoke against ALL jews. rothschild and marx were just examples. and it was not only Bakunin with those ideas. P.J. Proudhon said: "The Jew is the enemy of the human race. This race must be sent back to Asia, or exterminated. H. Heine, A. Weil, and others are simply secret spies. Rothschild, Crémieux, Marx, Fould, evil choleric, envious, bitter men etc., etc., who hate us.". anarchists today tend to forget that and they are pro-semite...

[NewVinland]

@Vulturu I'm not a fan of Jews, Vulturu. I'm with the National Anarchists. Some of us try to pretend it is just "Anti-Zionism" but it is a fact that it is hatred of Jews that is among us and I am proud to be a part of it.

[Vulturu]

@NewVinland me too

[howdyhoyo]

@NewVinland fuck anarchy

[howdyhoyo]

@NewVinland and you're talkin bout bein proud of the hatred of jews. fuck you too. what the hell are the "National Anarchists?" Wouldn't that be an organization? fuck you. even if you are a former jew, im intolerant to hatred. there was something wrong with that statement you just made. pissin me off.

[NewVinland]

@howdyhoyo I hold the same position that Bakunin did. That definitely doesn't make me non-anarchist. And no.. It is not an "organization". It is a loose federation. We all still keep our autonomy.

[minarchist43]

@NewVinland

fuck you nazi.

[NewVinland]

@minarchist43 Seriously? All you can do is engage in Argumentum Ad Hominem?

[aworldanonymous]

@NewVinland National Anarchism is just nationalism parading around with a veneer of anarchist ideals. Come back here when you can actually wrap your mind around the concept of free association without foaming at the mouth.

[welcometoskyvalley]

Theres a very interesting point there: Anarchism and Violence.

[punhada]

He was a freak of 19 century like the talibans freaks of today Harriba hombre!!

[mitchrix31]

Bakunin threw dynamite into cafes what are you people talking about, he was crazy!

[Solechnaya]

Anarchists don't do that, only idiots do that.

[ConservativePunkTV]

That wasnt Bakunin who threw dynamite into a cafe (and it was a bar), it was Emile Henry in 1894, long after Bakunin was dead.

[mitchrix31]

You were right, i apologize.

[rockerlrf]

bakunin was a very smart man!

[vikingrodrigo]

Bakunin forever!

[rock8yourself]

love u bakunin

[god0fmusic]

what a great title, lol

[Psychedelia1969]

what are the lyris

[matt000six]

Google 'em...

Great track... Used to love AAA...

"Whatever the form of government may be

A class restricted society

Will be the end result

NO REFORMATION WITHOUT REVOLT"