Radhanath swami's bogus Jesus, Kirtanananda (ISKCON #8)

[venky247365]

All nonsense

[tenthousandyearsgoon]

Tim, what is your feeling on Radhanatha Swami? I am still trying to formulate an intelligent opinion.  I hear some good, some bad.

[ramatirthadasa]

iskcon is just christianized hinduism

[tenthousandyearsgoon]

@ramatirthadasa well yeah, now it is.  Its been that was since about 77

[sadhubeast]

watch?v=q9gX06Zi1n0&feature=re­lated Srila BV Narayan Maharaj Performing Srila Prabhupada Funeral Ceremony. This was done at the request of Prabhupad himself. Love is always there. we only need to open our eyes.

[dswaroop1001]

@sadhubeast The ISCKON itself is a fraud organization. They perform vulgurous acts & pretend as if they r 3 yr olds . What to do? For old habits die hard. I went to Guwahati for Diwali vacations, & found some ISCKON Monks chatting with a call-girl, inside a private vehicle. So, it shows the company 1 keeps. JAI MA.

[sadhubeast]

Srila Narayana Maharaj, in the procession of Maha Bhagavatha Srila Bhaktivedanta Svami Prabhupad. watch?v=aMpht3K5fTw&feature=re­lated

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana Maharaja could not wait to put Prabhupada is the samadhi funeral so he could launch his homosexual guru program in ISKCON. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 May love and light be with you. Let the hate go, and love fill your heart. God bless

[sadhubeast]

"Srila BV Narayan Maharaj Performing Srila Prabhupada Funeral Ceremony". In this video, according to the right sof sanatana dharma, only the son can perform the fathers funeral rights. Here it goes to show how Srila Prabhupad regarded Srila Narayana Maharaj as his own son and thus the samadhi was performed. Prabhupad is not a conditioned soul to simply have anyone perform his samadhi. The person who puts Prabhupad into Samadhi must be of the same caliber.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast So its ok to support mass molesting and homosexual peodphile acharyas because, you attended a funeral? OK, this is what I thought you were saying. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 You have to ask Prabhupad. Too bad for you, you can never really make your claims as truth. Dont fake it man. It hurts to be rejected and treated like that but you did deserve it. I heard that even Prabhupad shuns you. Dont feel sorry and angry. Prabhupad's funeral as you say it, shows what understanding you have of the vedic tradition so you are an imporster at best. Go find another hobby white trash.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast I asked Prabhupada, he said amongst my God brothers no one is qualified to be acharya because they make homosexuals into acharyas. This was proven when Narayana Maharaja supported the 1977 GBC homosexual acharyas and he wrote a guru tattva booklet saying there is nothing wrong with the worhsip of homsexuals as acharyas. Even the gays I know living here in San Francisco, they are gay, but they do not worship gays? Narayana Maharaja worships gays, he is a worshipper of man to man sex.

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Yea right. I see him worshiping SP often. So in ur twisted mind you claim something on Prabhupad as well. What you need to do is get a job and live life instead of being frustrated. You are quite mental and have a terribly twisted mind. I am sorry for your state of hatefulness and always angry. His treatment of you was highly appropriate seeing the man you truly are. You expected ever fresh garden of roses when you joined Iskcon..you should have knows better. You threw your life away

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana maharaja supported worship of a homosexual pedophile guru cult, he got thousands of children molested. His hands are full of these children's blood. Here in America we had a foot ball coach fired and removed just for covering up molesting. Narayana Maharaja not only covered it up, he promoted worship of these molesters as gurus. Then he wrote a book saying there is nothing wrong with worship of deviants. You are all boot lickers of molester pooja, you are child exploiters.

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 LOL ! bullshit. Blame your self and god brothers like yourself. Dont blame someone outside the sanga. This is hwat frustration and hatefullness does to you, so go ahead and bask in it. Your failures are not somebody else's fault.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Srila Prabhupada said they are not fit for sannyasa, NM said they are fit for guru, the blame clearly goes to NM. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

"Srila Prabhupada Funeral Ceremony Kirtan with Srila Narayan Maharaja 1977". In this video, Srila Narayana Maharaj performs kirtan in seperation of Srila Prabhupad. So sweet and merciful are the divine pastimes of vaisnavas.

[sadhubeast]

Srila Narayana Maharaj reminds about his preaching to all devotees. "First remember him, then me". He instructs all devotees to first remember Prabhupad and then him. He also states that Nishta to prabhupad is the backbone of bhakti for all eastern and western devotees. See how much love he has for Prabhupad. So much we can learn from him. Sweetness and love for all of you. watch?NR=1&v=D9w8kIHOMAw

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana maharaja is the back bone of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile acharyas program that says "there is nothing wrong" with the worship of man to man sex messiahs. NM got thousands of children molested by working with Tamal and promoting homosexual peodphiles as acharyas. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 No. You're lying. :). Pathetic and a mental case. Seriously....are you in denial? It was your Prabhupad that selected thse GBC childmolesting Guru's and you blame someone else for it? You must have not been breast fed.

[sadhubeast]

Just take a look at this video....how Srila Prabhupad had to put up with White trash people that had no idea how to speak to and about a sadhu. watch?v=hcHbbGpN1Ug&feature=re­lated. Same thing with Srila Narayana Maharaj, many of you will never know how to talk about him or treat him. It is all about the level of consciousness.

[sadhubeast]

Srila Prabhupad also talks about Spontaneous love. One must work under the direction of Guru. Same things as preached by Gaudiya Vaisnavas. Srila Prabhupada in Australia Part 1

[sadhubeast]

Saptam Gosvami Sri Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur has told that a vaisnava can also be known by how many fallen souls he can inspire to take up holy names and become vaisnavas themselves. Prabhupad and Narayana Maharaj did that exactly. watch?NR=1&v=00-ft0CPxAI

[sadhubeast]

A Bhagavata Vaisnava, Never discriminates anyone just like ganga devi doesnt discriminate who baths in her waters, the brahman or sudra, Vaisnava or saiva, religous or sinful, who ever takes bath in her, she purifies. Likewise, Srila Narayana Maharaj, purifes everyone who ever comes to him and hears from him just like how Srila Prabhupad did for the fallen westerners all over the world. Truly, this is vaisnavism. watch?v=PeApdhh8j10&feature=re­lated

[sadhubeast]

For everyone, please copy paste "Srila BV Narayan Maharaj Performing Srila Prabhupada Funeral Ceremony" into your you tube search and you will find an amazing video of Narayana Maharaj performing the Samadhi of Srila Prabhupad. This is only done by the son or the closest person to you according to Vedic and also hindu traditions. Glorious are the sadhu's.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast After 1978 NM then became the rasika guru for the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile acharyas program. He was close with them, but Srila Prabhupada said his followers were not even fit for sannyasa in January 1977, NM thought, they are not fit for sannyasa, they must be acharyas. What! So NM supported the worship of illicit sex gurus, after Prabhupada had just said they are not fit for sannyasa even. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 The glory of the Pure devotees cannot be understood by a chronic and judgemental mind. Take a look at this video love, CXqhj70t7So. In it you will see how he protects Prabhupad's legacy and presents a grand thought that everyone is equal when it comes to serving Krishna. This is something we can all learn from.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Right, as soon as I said child molesters arent gurus, Narayana Maharaja said I did not understand his rasika GBC guru group that he was giving gopi rasika to, umm, giving gopi rasika to illicit sex with men, women and children? Why is Narayana Maharaja saying there is nothing wrong with man to man sex gurus? Why is he promoting molester guru programs? Why is he saying dissenters to his molester pooja are poison, so he can get dissenters killed? Why is a dog more advanced than this?

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 How grand that Narayana Maharaj sings his heart out in separation from Prabhupad. This is something you should be doing if you truly cared for Prabhupad. He would have never wanted you to hurt anyone by body, mind and speech. This is something we should do and I will start first. Radhe. watch?v=dOLtxdu-8XA&feature=re­lated

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana Maharaja was saying that there is nothing wrong with man to man sex posing as acharyas. Why is he saying the acharyas are degraded debauchees and there is nothing wrong with homosexuals posing as acharyas? Thousands of children were molested because of NM supporting molesters as acharyas, he did no harm? NM created mass anal reconstructive surgery, starving, beating and molesting of kids thanks to his support of this regime, and no one was harmed? You are proud of that?

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 See another video how the vaisnavas actually know how to revere the divine master. "Srila Prabhupada Samadhi Ceremony Kirtan with Srila Narayan Maharaja 1977" I am proud of the great heritage given by Prabhupad and re-established by Srila Narayana Maharaj. Prabhupad and SNM, preached the same thing. Same wine in different bottles. Let us concentrate on the nectar like cakora birds. I have no time for erroneous talks which is like crows eating neem seeds.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Right, and after the samadhi ceremony Narayana Maharaja said, ok Srila Prabhupada said they are not fit for sannyasa, lets make them rasika gurus, and NM was a huge enforcer of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile acharyas which molested thousands of children, and when I complained, NM said I was poison because he was not done getting more kids molested, he had to have more molested so he said us protestors are poison, he is a overt cause of all this. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Refer to this video what Guru actually is and how one should worship him. 2xUHP6DwZ2g&feature=related. Great souls never look down at anyone and never criticize anyone. The first quality of advancement is how one is tolerant and never hurts anyone even in retaliation. Let us all look and learn the pure qualities of Bhagavata Vaisnavas. My love for you.

[sadhubeast]

This is a video where Srila Prabhupad requested Srila Narayana Mahara to perform his Samadhi. This shows how much love Prabhupad had for him and so much faith.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast What does that have to do with saying there is nothing wrong with man to man sex acharyas? You are changing the topic. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 I dont know man, you should ask Prabhupad why he selected the man to man acaryas. It was him that formed GBC and ISKcon right? Or are you going to deny that and run behind same repetitive rhetoric's like you always do? I never claim to be advanced, just smarter than you....which then again, doesnt say every much.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast He said they are not fit for sannyasa in January of 1977? NM thought they were acharyas? People who are not fit for sannyasa are gurus? Why is NM such a dolt? Even dogs do not promote the worship of illicit sex, why are you and NM not as smart as a dog? ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@sadhubeast Srila BV Narayan Maharaj Performing Srila Prabhupada Funeral Ceremony

[sadhubeast]

Narayana Maharaj and Prabhupad are now dancing with Krishna in Goloka Vrndavan. One who focuses internally can feel this.

If not, then people like pada can be viewed with this aphorism, "Dogs will bark but the caravan will pass".

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana Maharaja said that we need to support the GBC gurus, ok illicit sex with men, women and children. Even dogs do not worship illicit sex with men, women and children, you are not as advanced as a dog. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 No! It was your Prabhupada that selected the GBC child molesting Gurus. I think we need to bring him to court and try him. He selected and then died and left crap in Iskcon. One of which is you.

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Well it was your Prabhupad that asked Iskcon to form the GBC and then follow them. It wasnt NM. So blame your prabhupad for making you behave like a dog. Follow your Guru's instructions. Dont add and dont minus. Prabhupad never asked for Ritvik. Dont do things cause you are frustrated.

[dswaroop1001]

Homosexual child molesting! Durga-Durga. It shows how hollow the organisation of ISKCON is.

[sadhubeast]

@dswaroop1001 O believe me man, after Prabhupad, the ISkcon in Malaysia to cite an example, is the most hallow org. They dont really know how to differentiate between a pure devotee and a white wash Guru pure devotee wannabe. The so called Indian descendants in malaysia are shallow and have even offended a few Maha Bgahavatas in their life span.

[michaelscandirito]

facepalm. Cointelpro operatives create these kinds of fake accounts, making a living dividing and conquering on behalf of corporatists. Don't do their job for them.

[NassimHarameinVedas]

This is really stupid, even if this was true, this is not representative of the ISKCON movement as a whole. Just as few negative entities falsely associating themselves with Islam are tainting the image of that wonderful faith so is the case here.

People will and can believe what they want, after all, it is irrelevant.

God Is. Love Is. Devotee Is.

It is not a secret that the elite powers of the world including the dark cabal (Illuminati) don't like people living without fear or hate . . .

[jajss]

How could they not know???

[108vasudeva]

Pada, hk,

I would suggest internal negotiations toward putting forth the best public image to attract newcomers to your wonderful faith and institute a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavor subject to legal action. but don't wave you dirty laudry out in public it REALLY scares away any potential new devotees. if the corruption is at the top tip off the police and press, anonymously. ys vasudeva

[pada1008]

@108vasudeva Problem is there are no internal discussions allowed, our devotees are always banned, beaten and sometimes assassinated. In India they are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars suing our devotees. They want a public confrontation, no internal discussion is allowed. Chatur Bahu told me to make it internal, he was killed -- police said "it was an inside job." Its not even safe to make internal discussion. ys pd

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Prabhu, I agree with Vasudev prabhu. This is no way to bring people to Krishna consciousness, to realizing God and that they are the soul and seeking out a genuine bonafide guru who can get them back home, back to Godhead. By putting up these nonsense videos about politics and crime and etc. you are only feeding mode of passion in yourself and disturbing everyone's minds. You distract from your own service and you prevent new people from being attracted to Krsna. Please stop. Please.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Ok, except so far, you have not told us who or what to to follow? Srila Prabhupada says anyone who says "all glories to guru" -- and they do not give the name of the guru, they are mayavadis. You have not given any name of guru, and to NOT give the name of guru, this is impersonalism. Since you are self evidently an impersonalist, why should anyone follow your idea? ys pd

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 I'm no impersonalist.We should follow Prabhupada. He says in Bhagavad-Gita As It Is how important guru is: tad viddhi pranipatena, 4.34. I think Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar + Srila Narayana Maharajas bonafide; they're unmanifest now. Your question is, who to follow that is now on earth + bonafide? Difficult. I think all we can do is follow Prabhupada's instructions and try to serve sincerely and listen to our hearts. Krsna will help us. Criticizing helps no one. Krsna wants our love.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Narayana supported the bogus GBC gurus, and he said our idea of worship of Srila Prabhupada is bogus posthumous ritviks. He also said we Prabhupadanugas are poison. By his support of the worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as acharyas, he got thousands of children molested. When BR Sridhara found out I was protesting, he too said, none should protest, so he created all this molesting. People who support molesters as acharyas are bogus, period. ys pd

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Narayana did not support the bogus gurus. He knew that some are poisonous and some not. Those whom he approved of are those such as Indradumnya Swami, who preaches for Srila Prabhupada worldwide. You are generalizing so much, it is foolish. Not all GBC are molestors, etc. Those who we/are offensive were not supported by Narayana or Sridhar. Please be careful. The Lord doesn't forgive offenders of His vaishnavas. There is a verse where it is said, those who criticize will be criticized.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Wrong, in 1978 Jayadvaita asked NM how the 11 are to be viewed and he said, as rati keli siddhas. He said those of us who saw the 11 only as ritvks were bogus poison. NM was giving rasika classes to these bogus gurus, NM defended them in 1990 in the ISKCON Journal. There's tons of tapes of NM giving rasika class to these gurus. The GBC has been promoting molesters as gurus and NM was supporting them. Indradyumna was voted in by the molesters messiahs project, swell. ys pd

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 You have 2 contradicting statements. 1 you say NM called 11 rati keli, 2 you say NM called SP-anugas poison. Aren't GBC + 11 also "prabhupadanuga"? This contradicting discredits you in the arena of logic. As for the sastric arena, already you are discredited, I am sorry to say, prabhu, bc you are not heeding verses about guru, about humble vaishnava behavior, about danger of criticizing, etc. These are all things Prabhupada has instructed on clearly. Please read + hear Prabhupada more.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Srila Prabhupada said they are not fit for sannyasa, suspend sannyasa. Narayana Maharaja said they are monkeys, they are not fit for sannyasa, they are blooping left, right and center, so they are rati keli acharyas. Not Prabhupadanuga at all? SP said they are not fit even for sannyasa, NM kicked that out and said, they are fit for acharya. Srila Prabhupada never said unfit people are acharyas? And then NM used the verses, none should criticize, to keep monkeys as his gurus.

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Your ideas that any of the 11 or GBC are NM's is silly. Yes, he preached to some, and yes, some of those he preached to fell down. But how is this his fault? It is theirs. Prabhupada told NM that his disciples are like monkeys and asked NM to help his disciples. NM only tried to fulfill this request. He attempted to have peaceful dealings, meeting w GBC a few times but nevertheless they slandered him. I've read/heard nothing supporting what you are saying.

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Prabhu, I have said statements about Prabhupada on importance of guru, where you seemed to think he thought it was unimportant. You did not disagree when I said that, b/c my statement was from BG; now you have simply chosen another thing to argue on. Sastra tells us, to be humble and only criticize if we are defending our guru and Krishna? How is insulting NM, etc. you defending Srila Prabhupada? How is it proer vaishnava behavior? Please be more careful and not so quick to criticize.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Where does shastra tell us about the importance of worshipping NM's illicit sex acharyas? Sorry, shastra says anyone who worships illicit sex is a fool, period. NM also said that the molested children are just getting their karma, so NM is saying he can cram molester acharyas down the throats of children, and its the children's fault? No, it is his fault, he is an adult, he crammed molester gurus down the children's throats, he is to blame, not the children's karma?

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 As for the children, again I've read/heard nothing supporting your statements. BG talks about karma + how all who suffer do so bc of past grievous sins and bad karma. It is just. Yes it is sad + yes the children were innocent in this life, but karma is dealing them suffering so evidently they have done something in past lives. It is beyond material understanding. Perhaps read BG again? Sastra does not say worship bogus gurus, of course not! It says seek out bonafide, like Prabhupada.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Where does shastra tell us about the importance of worshipping NM's illicit sex acharyas? Sorry, shastra says anyone who worships illicit sex is a fool, period. NM also said that the molested children are just getting their karma, so NM is saying he can cram molester acharyas down the throats of children, and its the children's fault? No, it is his fault, he is an adult, he crammed molester gurus down the children's throats, he is to blame, not the children's karma?

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 It was NM that crammed them down any child's throat. it was your prabhupad that selected these guys so he takes the blame. Sorry man. You are fooling no one. Your bullshit and hate will take you no where but hell. it was SP that was so hard-pressed for GBC and said that the Gaudiya Math failed because they didnt have a GBC. well I think now everyone is glad there wasnt a GBC. So guys, any of you reading this beware, cover your ass cause Ritcik, ISKCON GBC and Pada wants to use them.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast No, as soon as I said child molesters are not gurus, NM said I was ritvik poison and he was licking the boots of Tamal, Bhavananada and all of his favorite child molester messiah program leaders. He also wrote a guru tattva booklet which says there was nothing wrong witht the 1936 homosexual guru, so NM like to worship sex with men's behinds, and he even wrote that in his booklet (yes I have a copy). So I do not worship sex with men's behinds and that is why he did not speak to me.

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Yeap, his guru Tattva booklet has the same things written by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, guru of your Prabhupad and never is there a mention of a ritvik. You guys misinterpret what SP said and found a way to rape for kids and make more money in the Ritvik just GBC. Ritvik in Malaysia has reports of this going on and I know it happens every where else in the world. You want to cash in and NM stopped you idiots and goons. Poor you, making use of Sadhus will send you to hell like Tamal.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast As I said earlier, NM's guru tattva booklet says there was nothing wrong with the 1936 (homosexual) guru, so NM promotes the worship of men having sex with men's behinds, but even dogs are not as degraded that they worship that? First, Narayana Maharaja has to become as elevated as a dog and not promote the worship of illicit sex withe men, women and children. I am not making any money at all, this is foolish. Anyway, nothing wrong with men to men sex gurus? OK then, dog is better.

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Your statement that NM's support of so-and-so makes him responsible for bogus gurus' deeds is illogical + against sastra. Those who did the molesting are the molestors. The Gita speaks of how karma works. You are responsible for your actions; thus the pedophile etc gurus are responsible for their horrid deeds, and they will get the consequences for their actions. NM preached to them + others bc Prabhupada instructed him "help my disciples", and he considered Prabhupada his siksaguru.

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Narayana maharaja "just preached," ok he said the 11 are gurus, have to be seen as rati keli no less, and anyone who doesnt accept that they are gurus is ritviks poison, so he was trying to get us killed by calling us poison. NM knew that by calling us poison he could get some of us killed, and he did get some of us killed. And because he suppressed our complaints against them, the child molesting went on full tilt, no one was allowed to protest. This is his karma! ys pd

[theultimateotaku]

@pada1008 Prabhu, you repeat yourself. Obviously nothing I am saying is getting through. Your arguments are bogus. You can blame so many people for 11, but that is not how karma works. It is direct. They alone will reap their results. What it comes down to is, the bogus gurus are at fault, not NM or anyone else. Of course you are free to form your opinion, but that's all it is. Pls do not think your opinion is fact. haribol! Put this out of your mind, Prabhupada said "Chant and be happy"!

[pada1008]

@theultimateotaku Narayana Maharaja said the 11 should be worshipped as rati keli acharyas, so he empowered them to act as absolute authorities who could not be questioned. Moreover NM said anyone who challenged the 11 was "ritvik poison" so he was trying as hard as he could to get dissenters murdered, and he succeded. Sorry, the Vedas say that anyone who supports a deviation is as guilty as the perps, read the story of Draupadi, she said all the supporters are as guilty as the perp. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 And where is this stated? Where is the evidence that Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaj said that?? You are saying he said this and said that but never show the real evidence. I have met SNM many times and he never ever said anything like this baba. So Pada, you are lying. I think you are jealous that Bhavananda didnt share the young boys with you. Thats the problem

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Narayana Maharaja said that the GBC are gurus and he said we ritviks are bogus poison, and he said that repeatedly. He also said I was a bogus rascal when the poison issue came out, because he was licking Tamal's feet at the time, I had to push on NM for five years to wake him up. NM invited me to his ashram and then cancelled our meeting four different times, I waited there for TEN hours, and he would not see me for ten seconds. This is animal behavior, no courtesy and etiquette.

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 You guys ARE BOGUS POISON. What makes you think you are so important to meet him and talk with him when you actually didnt go there to hear him? It was your own master that picked the GBC you piece of shit. It wasnt anyone else. Why didnt you tell your Srila Prabhupad that having GBC was a bad idea? Was he busy licking Tamal's feet back then?? People like you should be put on trial for insanity and then locked uo for good because you have nothing nice in your heart.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Right, as soon as I said illicit sex with men, women and children means they are not messiahs, Narayana Maharaja said I was "ritvik poison" because he wanted to support the illicit sex acharyas. NM even admitted he knew these guys were falling down left, right and center and he still was Tamal's bucket boy for over a decade. Tamal said his favorite two people are NM and Bhavananada, yep Andy Warhol messiahs program ki jaya sir! Sorry, I do not think this is bona fide.

[pada1008]

Narayan Maharaja will be on trial for his supporting the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as acharyas, the Yamaduttas have him in their court. Agreed. ys pd

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Well as far as I can see it, it was Prabhupad's fault for putting them up as GBC and even recommending that system. Stop idol worshipping your guru and think with your head and cock for once. You definitely sound like a real paraya and I think alot of people here would agree to that. NM never supported them. Never! You have no proof and till now never bothered to prove anything. If at all, i see that your prabhupad was the real shit head for gbc up. 2 can play the same fuck game man.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Srila Prabhupada never said that we need to worship illicit sex with men, women and children. Narayana Maharaja never supported the GBC, look at my web site where I have all the gopi classes letters where the GBC were all taking about their "rasika guru" NM. He also said we are poison (because we do not worship pedophilles). NM was with Tamal and the GBC all the time for over ten years, where have you been dude? NM was their main "shiksah guru" and now, he never was? Sorry he was!

[sadhubeast]

@pada1008 Gee I wonder why. You keep barking like as though your prabhupad is the only guru in this world when he is not. Clearly there are others and all you can feel is jealousy. It was your SP that formed the GBC and it was him who knew children were getting molested and really did nothing about it. .....hmmmm...tough luck for you i guess.

[pada1008]

@sadhubeast Dogs know that worship of illicit sex with men, women and children is wrong, so you have to wait and take birth as a dog to make advancement. ys pd

[Siva3Enthroned]

@108vasudeva What you are talking about is lying and suppressing the truth like the Catholic church. Shame on you.

[108vasudeva]

this really great PR for your already controversial religious cult. is there a genuine vaishnava sect out where the focus is actually God and worship of and service to God? you guys don't across real well either casually referring to the position of initiating guru as in anyway comparable to Jesus Christ. Jesus is believed by Christians to be God. He is believed to have raised the dead, he gave sight to the blind, cured lepers and resurrected himself. You guys are a mess.

[pada1008]

@108vasudeva Ok, so what is your solution? ys pd

[spyk316]

I am yet to meet a ritvik with class. All the ritviks I have met or seen on the web are absolute jerks of the highest order. There is not one scholarly ritvik out there, all are jackasses. The only scholarly Ritvik was Rupa-Vilas who by the way has found the truth and given up ritvikism.

All the other ritviks can come and sniff my horse!

[pada1008]

@spyk316 The GBC says that their gurus are "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and chdilren." Sridhara and Narayana were the biggest cheer leaders of that regime. Are you saying these people are correct? What is your point exactly? thanks pd

[spyk316]

@pada1008

Ill tell you what my point exactly is, get that straight into your thick skull. The point is that

1.)Give a link that explicitly shows that GBC has said what you say they have.

2.)People who criticize and malign each and every guru bcoz of a few who strayed away are absolute morons.

3.)These gurus have served srila Prabhupada more than you or me cn even imagine doing in this lifetime.

4.)The guru issue is done and dusted, get on with some serious spiritual life.

[BillKiernan]

what a zoo. wake up, religion is poison. prabhupada was no better, he was the one who appointed these psychos to carry the torch for his religion. how enlightened could he have been?

[chamokc]

@BillKiernan LOL are you serious!!!! It wasn't religion or his religion he was spreading it was scientific realization passed down thorough millions of years, do you even know what religion means? it's fuck up Caucasian who are a disease to the world and misinterpret everything, when someone genuine comes along with truth or peace or whatever they get greedy envious, violent and nuts, Want proof just study world history! Whatever man, Prabhupada accomplished more than you ever will or have.

[BillKiernan]

@chamokc "scientific realization passed down through millions of years." yes, sounds very scientific. kind of like "a woman's brain is half the size of a man's, therefore she is less intelligent" -prabupada. and yeah, he accomplished a lot. he set up a cult that is the laughing stock of the world, that now has empty temples everywhere. congrats.

[chamokc]

@BillKiernan Your statement is absurd and not complete, do you work for FOX news?. A least Prabupada gave scientific evidence verified by logic, science, and medical profess about that statement when he said it. All you have to say is "yes, sounds very scientific" LOL As far as laughing stock of the world is consider, are you serious? Where do you live? Been to many temples they don't look empty to me. Stop talking out of your ass. What is your profession? You even missed Prabupadas point!

[BillKiernan]

@chamokc "evidence verified by logic, science, and medical profess about that statement when he said it" what? a woman's brain is half the size of a man's was verified by science and medicine when he said it in the 1960's? on what planet? "As far as laughing stock of the world is consider, are you serious?" um, yes. hare krishnas are not taken seriously, they are the brunt of jokes of comedians, movies, songs, etc.

[BillKiernan]

@chamokc "speaking out your ass" i was a devotee for 2 years, brahmachari, the whole 9, so how about you eat a big plate of shutthefuckup (offered to sri krishna of course)?

[BillKiernan]

@chamokc i live in the u.s, and have traveled around the entire country as a devotee, and the temples are empty. in most major cities, temples that used to house upwards of 2-300 devotees now have literally 8-15 living there, tops. even NYC has like 13 devotees living there full time now. the hare krishna movement is a collosal failure. and prabhubapada selected a large number of child molesters, criminals, and sociopaths to take over his movement.

[chamokc]

@BillKiernan Once again we have someone who has no knowledge about the physiological make up of a man and a woman putting statements SOUNDS very scientific. Have you studied anatomy or physiology, I have for 15 years studied at UPMC and received my MD. What proof or research work do you have to prove Praupadas statement incorrect. Plus you have missed the whole point, your looking on a material point of view that's why you have this hang up on this statement. Were all spirt soul! man or woman

[BillKiernan]

@chamokc "and received my MD" so in your studies to be an MD, it confirmed the truth that a woman's brain is half the size of a man's therefore she is LESS INTELLIGENT? the material point of view? so there's a spiritual aspect of citing how large someone's brain is in comparison to their intelligence? i would love for you to cite me the studies that show women are less intelligent due to their brain size.

[ServeTruth2u]

In VAISHNAVISM THE BOYS ALWAYS LIVE WITH THE GURU! STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE...GET RID OF THE PEDOPHILES BEING WORSHIPPED IN ISKCON NOW!...

[ServeTruth2u]

If you all condsider young boys adoring an older man and sitting by him [their Guru] and putting their hands on him perverted,,then you must be homo pervert sickos..what kind of jack ass comes to that conclusion?? I guess if your kids sit on your fathers lap and touch him,,your father is a PEDOPHILE! Funny none of you spoke up about these so called crimes until you were busted!

[pada1008]

@ServeTruth2u Ummm, some people were protesting, and some of them were assassinated, the protest did not start only after. I do not know of any father who sits around covered with the hands of fifty boys, which are fathers doing that in public? thanks pd

[chamokc]

@pada1008 First off I was one of those boys massaging Kirtananda, as a 8yo kid the though of anything sexual from massagin his shoulder or feet or hands NEVER CAME UP IN MY MIND, there was nothing sexual about this, only you perverted Adults look into this more because you have your own sexual hang ups on this. We were massaging Kirtananda because he was almost beaten to death. That's when we started massaging him, and there was no sexual contact of any sort. END OF STORY !

[pada1008]

@chamokc Dear chamokc, Out of 4,000 children, over 2,000 were molested, that is the highest levels probably ever recorded, over 50 percent. If you think there was nothing sexual going on with these people, you are smoking too much pcp. OK some children were not molested, but acording to many ex-kulis, over half were. And you are still covering and defending, just as people were when this was going on fll tilt. Not surprised. thanks pd

[chamokc]

First i don't smoke anything, your making shit up and talking out of your ass. I'm not defending anyone You did not experience what was going on! THere was nothing sexual about the massaging. We were doing out of love to our "so called" guru. Your taking this situation and turning it completely around, I'm talking about 1 particular case and your talking about all of ISKCON? Prabupada was massaged all the time, was that also sexual? Give me a break man. Who came up with 50% lol

[pada1008]

@chamokc Dear Chamokc, Kirtanananda was a pedophile, yes you did not know that when you were a kid, but the adults could see that he was because its not natural to have fifty boys hands on this guy, and he was molesting kids according to testimony in the Windle Turley lawsuit. Jane Wallace of CBS news filmed all the boys with their hands on Kirtanananda, and she told me, this man is in peodphile heaven. Yea, you did not know then, but you should know by now. ys pd

[ServeTruth2u]

The 'BOY' you all speak of was 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lastly,ISKCON still employs Bhavananda in MAYAPUR,,hes the BIGGEST PEDOPHILE OUT OF ALL THE gURUS..Is anyone saying that?? Lastly,Kirtananda was as this says,,the MAIN leader, or quickly becoming so,,until the criminals on the farm were BUSTED and then played victim 'blame it on the Guru' game to minimize their own crimes,,he did nt suddenly become'bad',,,Bhaktipada is the ISKCON SCAPEGOAT.

[gaurav8910]

All the current ISKCON Leadership is corrupted, they are homosexuals, pedophiles, child molesters and money mongers, control freaks. The organization is the seat of the devil.

[chamokc]

@gaurav8910 Before you make a statement like that are you yourself 100% sure that ALL ISKCON leaders are corrupt. HAve you met ALL of them , this is an absurd statement to say ALL, many maybe but not ALL.

[gaurav8910]

@chamokc Yeah i agree that not all are corrupted but yes most of them are corrupted. I stand corrected for sure but yes we cannot trust anyone these days

[ObaNarayanShivaji999]

Can't we all just get along?

May Kalki kick every rascal's ass, dammit!!!

[pada1008]

Kirtanananda is now in Hrsikesha, India, and he has a pack of dedicated worshippers there. YES! Some people still think he is another Jesus and YES he is STILL being worshipped over there. YES, there are still people who think he is another messiah in this world. Yikes pilgrims! thanks pd

[allembrace]

Don't interpret any malevolence ideas . First purify your heart, mind and soul. ISKCON is purity,sacredness, kindness,compassion,love,servi­ce,nonviolence, extreme discipline,self control, strict penance (TAPAS ) ,simplicity. SANATANA DHARMA , BHAGAVADGITA,VEDAS, RAMAYANA,MAHABHARATA are uniquely noble,great ,special and must not be compared with any other false theologies like ISLAM and christianity - which are fascist,intolerant,exclusivist­,totalitarian,dogmatic,violent­.,organized,

[lvit405775]

take out these pics of krishna plzz or ill have 2 find u and kick ur ass

[lvit405775]

white ppl sould be kicked out of india

[Mrgyn]

@lvit405775

Ignorant comments. Krishna is not racist you fool!

[lvit405775]

DID I SAY HE WAS YOU FOOL

[Mrgyn]

@lvit405775

Yes you did. You said white people should be kicked out of India and you said White people should not use pictures of Krishna. Krishna is India and Krishna is the white race. Krishna is everything. And Krishna is most certainly NOT a racist like you are. Stop being so negative and sing: "Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare!"

[shubhabratasom]

hey I am an Indian wh you write this . who give you the right to write this. India belongs to world world belongs to India.

[lvit405775]

@shubhabratasom wtf iam indian u fucktart get ur fact's first then talk shit

[vegeman78]

Iskcon doesn't use the jesus terminology this dude is a tool.

[pada1008]

ISKCON writes in their flagship BTG magazine that their homosexual and pedophile gurus are "like Jesus." They OFTEN say their gurus are getting sick / having illicit sex with men, women and children / taking drugs, because their gurus "absorbed too many sins, ummm -- like Jesus is absorbing sins

and so on and so forth. GBC leaders commonly use the name of Jesus in their lectures, we cite examples of their use of Jesus in our videos, where have you been dude? We have WRITTEN DOCUMENTED PROOF!

[phsyco348]

sorry prabhu but just because a homosexual is alone with boys DOES NOT mean that he is molesting them! IF heteorosexual men are alone with kids ,,,are they molesters..lastlyu,,this is a lie anyway.

[pada1008]

Kirtanananda was "molesting boys in his motorhome" according to reports. He always had boys in his cottage, sitting on his lap, 30 of them giving him "massages" while he sat on his guru seat etc. In the book "Monkey On A Stick" Mukunda mhj says that the GBC was investigating these allegations. I'm not targetting all homosexuals, some of them are trustworthy. Agreed. Some of them are not, that's all. By the way the GBC excommunicated him, ummm, they also agreed that there were many troubles.

[OneHeart57]

Thank the Lord Krsna for Devotees like Solocana Das Prabhu and many others!!! Hare Krsna!

[oneyedsleepinganimal]

also sivarama swami?