It is meant to be a joke, since the slant of the video is satrical in nature. It's not wrong to criticize socialized medicine, if that's what you're arguing. The rest of the world might look at America with awe, but when the talk of serious medical treatment is brought up, people come here to get it.
The government shouldn't be in the business of providing services that are not delineated in the constitution. The US healthcare system is socialized enough as it is.
Why should I pay for some fat fucks medical care that chooses not to exercise and eat healthy instead eats Mcdonalds for every meal. Or how about someone that smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and needs a lung transplant. Or some drunken idiot trying to jump off a roof into a pool and breaks his leg?
@whothaplaya Well seeing as you didn't put any other examples in there, which one are you? The "fat fuck", the "someone who smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day" or "some drunken idiot"?
@voidlam As of right now, yes insurance is a waste of money for me. You never know just because I am healthy now doesn't mean I will be a year from now. A completely open healthcare and insurance market will make the prices drop a lot and will be affordable for nearly everyone.
@whothaplaya My grandparents remember the year that the NHS was implemented. "An absolute jewel" were their words. People no longer suffering the humiliation of being unable to pay, or turning down treatment.
Today, we like to complain about the NHS. But we are British, and we complain about anything and everything. At the end of the day, I would never see the system go, and it makes me feel so lucky to have been born British. Maybe you would understand if you were:
@BasilFawlty4444 Mate, take a look at the tax bands. The basic rate for average income people (~£35,000) in the UK is 20%. In the US, families on a similar wage pay between 5% and 8% more or less; this hardly qualifies as an argument.
Granted, the UK has National Insurance, Council Tax and VAT, but the US has equivalents on a state level.
And no, the NHS is not FREE, just free at the point of use. The American govenment just spends the money on black projects and 5th generation fighters instead.
@BasilFawlty4444 Mate, take a look at the tax bands. The basic rate for average income people (~£35,000) in the UK is 20%. In the US, families on a similar wage pay between 5% and 8% more or less; this hardly qualifies as an argument.
Granted, the UK has National Insurance, Council Tax and VAT, but the US has equivalents on a state level.
And no, the NHS is not FREE, just free at the point of use. The American govenment just spends the money on black projects and 5th generation fighters instead.
@whothaplaya That's a very individualistic and right wing view of the world, very typical of America.
Remember, free healthcare also applies to you, your children, your parents and grandparents, etc etc.
Speakig from a country that has free healthcare, I have to say that the rest of the world looks at America in awe... as if you DON'T WANT a benevolent government system. What is with that? I honestly find it hard to understand why you listen to imberciles like Beck.
i went to the emergency room a few months ago with gash above my eye bleeding out. They gave me a few pieces of gauze and an ice pack and had to sit there for 20 min till i was able to get in. I am an American with some of the best health insurance, i can only imagine what it would be like for someone poor or middle class that doesn't have the same care
why do so many americans have such a problem with free health care...in the UK we have it, yeah it aint perfect but u can always go private if u want, and it means poor people dont die when they could be saved and have to struggle to fork up money for health insurance, it seems like a no brainer to me
lol I was waiting in the emergency room to get my arm fixed once. Took me all night just to get through a diagnosis..meanwhile some old lady was crying and every so often get dosed with drugs to keep her quiet.
it is so funny how glenn beck thinks he is now some kind of political intellectual and his viewers are smart reasoned thinkers amount of fallacies that this cunt spews
@GutpileCharlie you literally quote that fake tard/ fake redneck and think anyone is going to take you seriously? You are as fake as the person you quote.
this is fun,, it sow easy just get busted whit a kilo of marijuana and they will send you for 3 to six months in the federal jail sistem and you will recive free dentist .free cirug.cancer an sow many more and free food organs from china fast way 2 or jump the border no problems human rights are whit you
Strange how we consider the government taking half our income and spending it for us is "free" and good while a voluntary payment for service that comes no where near half your income even if you make minimum wage is evil...
Sad the poor schmucks end up waiting over a month for non life threatening conditions given the abhorrent amounts of money they are paying for their supposedly free services.
If healthcare is "free" then people will be more inclined to go to the doctor since they wont have to pay out of pocket. That means more taxes will be taken for healthcare, and hospitals will be stretched thin with all the extra work... Does any of that sound illogical?
Health care is never really free, it's just ten times cheaper here than in America so you avoid personal bankrupcy thank you.
If healthcare is NOT "free" then people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they WILL have to pay out of pocket. That means they will get worse and worse staying home instead of getting care, eventually being forced for REALLY expensive emergency care that someone has to pay for anyway. <_<
Health care is never really free, it's just ten times cheaper here than in America so you avoid personal bankrupcy thank you.
If healthcare is NOT "free" then people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they WILL have to pay out of pocket. That means they will get worse and worse staying home instead of getting care, eventually being forced for REALLY expensive emergency care that someone has to pay for anyway. <_<
if health care is not free, people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they will have to pay thousands of dollars, medicine is expensive, we all get that.
That means they will prefer tsay home, doing nothing or try cure it themselves, eventually getting worse.
At the end they will end up needing emergency care or succumb to their illness, and i tell you emergency care is WAY more expensive than if he/she would've gotten normal care in time. <__<
That's assuming you don't go to the hospital when sick. (We know people do with the current system.)
With the current system, ESSENTIAL healthcare is available at tax payer expense. If you go to the hospital, and you're dying of something, the doctors are required by law to treat you. (Even if it's a slow killer.) If all healthcare becomes free, then there will be a waiting list to get treatment unless you're dying on the spot .(Provided there's room in the hospital for you.)
Even if it's a slow killer? Well, I did not know that was included in the U.S. So, if I get cancer and got no covering insurance (Or maybe had a corporate sponsored but my employer moved to China and booted me) I get no thousand dollar bills for it afterwards?
@Nonphat1 That isn't entirely true. ESSENTIAL healthcare is NOT payed for by taxpayers. The doctors will treat you sure, but I assure you the bills all on you. This is why healthcare is such a concern, because poor people get sick too. And the waiting-list-is-going-to-kill-you bullshit is overplayed and completely exaggerated. In short: Glen Beck is an idiot, you're an idiot, and the healthcare bill is the best thing to happen to American medicine in a long time.
well many people in this nation do not have health care and there is no way they can afford it. glenn beck and many just like him don't care if you die, as long as they are well taken care of and their loved ones. they will not care about those with no insurance.
@crazyassblinddude Because they can afford to get all the care they want, whenever they want. You don't see Joe Everyman from Canada hopping the boarder to get our expensive health care, now do you?
@SUMD123 heatlh care free health care houses for every homeless person trillion dollar programs to feed the homeless, i mean all thats great, take it out of existing taxes, dont force me to buy into this, i think thats what some of us who oppose this think, thats fine you wanna feed the entire nation, give em free health care give the jobless and those who realy arnt that interested in working, give em healthcare thats cool, just dont come in with this "mandatory" deal ive been eharing
@crazyassblinddude Why do a lot of americans go to mexico or canada if yours is the best system. The current system is great if your rich but for everyone else who can't afford it or struggles to afford it or are denied coverage it's not so good.
i would love he won the GOP presidential canidate, Obama would win for sure, Glenn Beck is too insane, those undecieded would vote for Obama, and the the 25% of the population that likes Glenn Beck would vote for him.
@TheAmericanCanadian I was a huge Lou Dobbs fan until he left CNN, and then I found Glenn Beck. Sometimes he gets a little crazy, but the stuff he says about the current administration makes perfect sense. It took me a bit to get used to his craziness, but now I watch him religiously every night. I would vote for him any day over Obama. As for the undecided vote...that is me. Sure I don't agree with him on everything, but the main points he has spot on.
@TheAmericanCanadian I have seen the young turks before. I am not a fan. Nothing against them personally or anything, they just seem to be more about personal opinion and not about the facts themselves. Glenn Beck also has opinions, but the majority of his facts come from the people themselves saying it. He doesn't just say someone like Van Jones is a socialist, he shows video of Van Jones proclaiming himself as a socialist. Plus lower taxes and less spending is always a good thing.
@TheAmericanCanadian There are things I have in common with TYT, and also things I don't agree with Glenn Beck on, I am just not for big government. I like the private sector because you can vote with your money. If you don't like a business or its practices, don't shop there. If enough people don't shop there, they change their practices. I can't do that with government because I am legally required to pay taxes which they use however they want.
That makes sense, but youre basically neing selfish. There are millions of americans who are un insured, and thousands who die because of that. Supporting health care reform is supporting patriotism, and the american people.
@TheAmericanCanadian I am all for reform to lower health insurance costs and removes preexisting conditions, but that is it. I don't care if people are uninsured...if that is an issue for them maybe they should get off their lazy butt and get a job. I don't see how me helping pay their healthcare bills is patriotic? I make more than enough money to pay for my own healthcare, yet I am still uninsured and I don't see an issue, so why should I have to pay for someone else?
@RadarKat73080 the public option may not be completely free, but it has to be close. The idea of the public option is that the government supports the people that can't afford healthcare and the rest of us foot the bill. I am perfectly capable of paying for my own health insurance, yet I choose not to, so why should I be forced to pay for someone else's healthcare when I don't want to even pay to get my own healthcare?
@RadarKat73080 I am for small government, I want to support as few federal employees as possible. As for the soldiers, I cannot support them enough. Even if someone wanted to talk bad about the military, if you ask a soldier he may disagree with your view, but he or she will fight until their last dying breath so that you will be allowed to express that view. If I had my way, our soldiers would get paid as much as congress, and congress would get the current pay of the soldiers.
@v12tommy Then you are actually in the minority of Republicans. The bailout, the Patriot Act, both Republican "big gov" ideas! The GOP wants Laissez-faire Capitalism, where the free-market can run hog wild but wants government control over your and my life! The conservative hero; Ronald Reagan, grew the power of the government and the president by leaps and bounds.
@RadarKat73080 I don't see anything wrong with the patriot act, it is a tool to help hunt down terrorists...sounds good to me. The stimulus bill was voted down by all house republicans, all but 3 in the senate, and I don't agree with TARP one bit. Nobody is too big to fail. As for Reagan growing the size of government, I think you need to ask Ralph Nader on that one, cause Carter grew the size of government and Reagan reversed most of Carter's polices in his first weeks in office.
@v12tommy "Those willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security." Ben Franklin. Still like the Patriot Act? Hardly a "big government" guy myself. I just hate conservative hypocrisy. You don't recall Sarah Palin's ramblings about the bailout? People replay it to this day, to illustrate how dumb she is.
@RadarKat73080 I don't see how we give up any freedom with the patriot act. As for hypocrisy, I like the majority of Sarah Palin's views but she lacks the experience and knowledge to pull them off. Bush was a complete bumbling idiot. It is nice to see how low congress' and Obama's approval ratings are cause people are finally taking action. I don't want bailouts of any kind. I would really like to see a flat income tax, so everyone pays an equal percentage.
If you want to know how "free" health care works - just come to Europe, e.g. Poland. You have to wait sometimes even three years (!) for an appointment in clinic, hospitals are poor and underdeveloped, doctors have to work 80 hours a week (sic!) to earn their low payment, more than half of society chooses private clinics (but they stiil have to pay for public sector!) and health care 'eats' humongous percentage of GNP.
here in belgium you can go in a clinic instantly, hospitals are state of the art and being a doctor means: rich. We have 1 doctor per 222 residents (which is a lot :p)
You guys should focus more on the public sector! :p
@Blyfycyfyfyf YEAH? WELL I HAD A COLD WHEN I WAS VISITING MY FRIEND IN LONDON, WALKED INTO THE CLINIC, GOT ANTIBODIES, PAID NOTHING. AND IM NOT EVEN ENGLISH. UMAD?
@GodsTruth2008 I am happy to help the illegals come to the US, THIS IS REALLY MEXICAN LAND. 7 States, as the white populations continues toward extinction and Mexicans continue having more children coupled with the new settlers from Mexico reclaiming their land the end is near for the USA. My family has been NATIVE BORN ARIZONAN for 5 generations(120 years) and the Mexicans coming here are liberators. Caucasian people are dirty and use up all the welfare, health and education benefits.
17% of Americans live below the poverty line. with 300 million people in America, this comes to 51 million people in America living below the poverty line. Thats 51 million people without the health insurance they may need to save their life one day. would you really leave it up to chance that these people dont get hurt rather than paying a little extra in taxes? that greedy and selfish.
@TheSeantague Ok first of all it is not a little tax, also half of those people are illegals who shouldn't even be her (i'm not against immgrants i'm against people coming over here illegally when others wait so long to come here) also some of those people don't even want health care. You should look to Canada or Britain where waiting list for screenings and doctor appointments range from years to months. God us selfish this will only make our health care system more worse then it already is
@kaybbayyy2362 i'll bet you didnt know that the majority of those living below the poverty line are white and NOT your stereotypical hispanic illegal. according to the us cencus bureau, 12.4 percent of whites are 125 percent below the poverty level with 28.8 percent of hispanics, but this comes to 12,805,970 hispanics and 24,002,733 whites living below the line. So whites outnumber hispanics almost 2 : 1 for living under the poverity line.
@TheSeantague Ok i know that not just hispanic's live below the poverty level, half my family lives below the poverty level. And hate to say it but everybody's going to be rich or in middle class and government in there lives will always keep them poor & people will never have the motive to better themselves. Government doesn't solve problems. Also i never once said i was against hispanics i'm against any kind of Illegal immigration, plenty of people wait years to come to this country
Just so you simple people know, you don't wait anytime for a Docitor to treat critical injuries in Canada. If it's not life threatning you may wait a few months. I would rather do that then pay $300,000 for a procedure and move in with the kids after I declare bankruptcy! lol...and another thing you should know is we have just as good or better quality Doctors and facilities then the USA. Grow a brain and stop listening to US Republican BS.
@jdlr64 You may have that in Canada where they don't even have a real first amendment right but us America's don't want to be forced more then half of america was against this bill and yet congress still passed it
@deegan45 i didn't say that, so don't make like i did. and u still havent answered my question. is the steven crowder video representative of the canadian health care system?
@deegan45 do you mean the steven crowder video? because he went to a hospital in canada i believe quebec. so is his video misrepresenting canada's system
so me a hard working red blooded american nra member, who works 50hrs a week pays my taxes wait but whats this my appendix burst without warning. now Im in $24,000 in debt from my surgery & my insurance didn't cover it. True story happened to me. Tell you what I wish I had Obama care when that happened.
All Republicans are Neocons. At least Neocon PUPPETS.
HAHAHA!! You LOST asswipes! I'm happy to announce that YOU, the Republican taxpayer shall be paying for ALL OF MY HIV medications, extending my life so I may continue luring your kids into the growing Gay Community and promoting our agenda to convert your children into pro-queer participants as we take this country for ourselves.
It's our America now, it's our Queer Nation.
You had your chance for eight fucking years, now it's mop-up time.
I just adjusted my federal and state tax forms, not a single dime will be taken out in income tax to pay for your life style. You want health care? Pay for it your self.
@wg40504 so when your house catches on fire, the firemen won't come & save your shit & the cops won't catch me after setting the fire. FUCK you, you tax evading un patriotic fool.
@assfuckt How about instead of HIV medications, the taxes pay to have children injected with AIDS, I mean what's the point of treating HIV when you can just give everyone AIDS and let nature take its course. Then we could have the drug companies focus on breeding AIDS so we could finally legalize marijuana. AIDS will keep the illegal immigrants out too and the terrorists won't wanna get our AIDS.
This commercial is incredibly scewed. If his head injury was critical, wouldn't it be dealt with by emergency care, something which is already provided by the government at little or no cost? And if so, how would that be effected by healthcare reform? If the injury wasn't critical, how would healthcare reform make the process slower? There is only one conceivable way I can think of: because more people have healthcare which means more people need medicine. Am I missing something?
More people will flood the ER for every and any reason if they didn't have a bill. i can see people bringing kids in with low grade fever and things that can wait for a doctor visit. If something is free it's easy to take it as much of as as you can get, it's free. why would people refrain and wait a illness out. why buy tylol when they can get it at the hospital for free? people would abuse the system.
That's a good hypothetical point, but: 1) people don't exactly like to go to the doctor so I find it unlikely people would make a hobby out of it unless they were hypochondriacs; 2) Even if they get checked out more often that doesn't mean they'll get sick more often and use emergency equipment. 3) By getting checked out more often the system might prevent worse diseases and conceivably free up the system where it actually counts. 4) I'd rather have patients abuse the system than insurance co's.
Finally, your reason behind it is still at its heart cynical and anti-populist. You still fear that more people getting care more often would hurt your chances of getting better and you would rather neglect their health concerns and risk their lives than wait an hour or so more in the hospital - something which I believe to be selfish, un-egalitarian and, I hope, un-American. Some things just can't be cured by tylenol, chriscougar86.
no.... your NOT missing anything... its a bullshit comercial spewing bullshit rhetoric.
i loved the ending too: "offer applies after voting democrat and not listening to the glenn beck program"
how conceted :P
pretty much the only good thing i can say about this glenn beck fellow, is at least he doesnt go about erasing peoples negative comments on his videos like some posters do. god knows it would be a full time job for THIS guy though ^_^
No... i don't know where you live, but in America emergency care isn't free.
More people on healthcare with the same amount of doctors and providers does mean rationed healthcare or long waits.
Government run programs such as medicare are a pain in the ass bureaucracy and any billing in hospitals or family practices hate it at least 3:1 (and if its not covered, you can't pay out of pocket)
Reform is okay, socialized medicine isn't since there is no freedom of choice
@vegetorott That is a common misconception. I have universal healthcare and i'm still free to buy private insurance if i want. I choose not to because my universal coverage covers me the same as the private option, only it's less expensive and they can't deny me treatment for the sake of profit margins. The option to buy private is always there for those who can afford it, but those who can't afford it aren't just left to die.
@prophesize In socialized medicine, it can take years to get a catscan or EKG, which at the time might not be critical, but if you wait to long and have a tumor you die. you cant just see a doctor whenever you want, there are waitlists, When I lived in England and I was pregnant, I broke my hip. The government refused to give me an Xray untill after my baby was born. I'm not the only one who has experienced this. people come from all over the world to benefit from the US health care system
Yeee. Well, while the U.S has emergency care like any other developed country, you damn sure have to pay thousands of dollars for anything not emergency, don't you? What if you cant afford it, huh?
In the U.S, no one gives a shit and you get billed time after time until you lose home and property. =)
In Europe, the govt in exchange for a bit higher taxes for wealthy ppl helps you if you cannot afford it.
This is nonsense. As an EU Citizen working in Germany, I was entitled to full health insurance. For just 10% of my salary and an extra €10 - 13 freakin' dollars! - over 3 months, I had a full health check-up, treatment of an wound, and dental care. How much would that cost in the states?
@BNJT A ungodly amount that will raise taxes to beyond number. People will have to work harder to pay for someone else's doctor. Doctors will be payed less and move away reducing the numbers of doctors. People who invent medicines and medical equipment for money leave because they can no longer make profit.
In other words, we get screwed because Michael Moore thinks found some sad sob stories.
This is obscene. Thousands of americans die each year becasue they have no access to health care and this prick is lying about it? The fact is that EVERY OTHER "modern" country has public health care and their citizens don't die becasue of money. I hope Glenn Beck gets cancer.
Think about it, because of private health care we have some of the most advance medicines and medical equipment in the world and sell it to other countries. We mass produce all this stuff. We have the best doctors and the most in the world because they get paid very well.
Switching to public will kill people if you compare the benefits and ricks :3
Yes but I live in the UK which like cuba has socialised medicine but unlike cuba isn't in the third world. cuba is a poor country that doesn't mean the system is broken.
@CrazyMeCrazyYou Of course Glenn Beck made this up. He probably makes up the majority of what he says. If Universal (Don't want to use socialized, because then people will call it socialist) Health Care didn't work, then U.K. and Canada wouldn't use it.
I'm not for socializing healthcare!!! I'm for the public option. HENCE THE WORD "OPTION"!!!!!!! If you like your plan KEEP IT!!!! This new version congress is trying to pass has been compromised. So chalk another one up for special interest.
I know this is satire, but no one in Canada or any freehealth care country waits if you have an anvil fall on your head. In the USA most people can't even get into the waiting room (without going tens of thousands into debt). In Canada you can, and you dont have to wait.
Glenn beck is rich...like the politicians who will not be under the national health. Amazing how he's the bad one.
And GB is a sex predator? Oh that's funny. On the site that has this claim, they say if anyone ever believes it they are morons. ziomany, you are a moron.
First off,Why do you care if your a Canadian? Second, No member congress,senate,or the messiah himself is going to be on this waste of money,Canadian socialist,heathcare reform. obama said it himself. So no more crossing the border for heathcare. We are going to be just as awful as you now.
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You have to understand how dumb certain people are. Take for instance Glenn Beck's audience, who never takes into consideration the fact that he's rich and can afford the best Insurance for his family. Meanwhile, your insurance is getting crappier and more expensive until guess what? You can't afford it or they reject you for "pre-existing conditions". God forbid something happens to you. Then what? There goes your home and you're in serious debt. Ask a cancer patient how cheap treatment is.
yes our health care is good if you have insurance but what if you cant afford it? Then you have to choose between a foot or a hand because of your budget. some things need to be socialized and health care is one of them so suck it
176,000 Americans that didn't have health insurance died during both of bush's term.. 336,000,000 babies were killed by abortion, not including leap years..
I find it totally ironic that they use a company that profits off of being free to prove the point that free things don't work. Little does the maker of this video understand about rationing. Mainly that it really only occurs in purely socialist systems, not in systems with a public or private option.
Coming from someone in a country WITH free health care, I must say it isn't like that at all. Here, ambulances are actually able to make it to your house before a pizza delivery, hospitals base who goes in first on the severity of injury, not on a first come first serve basis. People dont get mounted in debt if they have low income, and nobody is ever denied care. And that... well thats just awesome.
UNREAL - this whole "death panel" nonsense and "killing grandma" - come on people, I can hardly believe anyone's even pushing this propaganda. Moreover, that anyone's even b
so the republicunts fall into their trap and use, if we gave you all you wanted, why are you still saying no?
face it, republicunts are impervious to facts and as long as clowns like beck and limbaugh keep spewing propaganda, these moronic right wing fundamentalist republicunts will drink the kool aid like its jesus juice.
while people in canada and the rest of the world pity you guys while laughing
thats the average time i wait to see a doctor during summertime as well. You have absolutely no idea how good we have it here, i guess thats why your 37th and we're 30th
best healthcare my ass... dipshit yank.
oh also, lookup the list of the countries with the best investment opportunities and soundness of banks, canada comes 1st in both.
ya capitalism rules; if you live in canada.
you shouldn't of said those things if you didn't know the facts.
I know the facts, and the facts are that we are the only country that people come to when they can't get treatment in their own country, canada included.
Keep the language up, it's a good way to represent your country.
What Obama is trying to give you in the States is almost exactly the same as what we have up here. Private Healthcare if you want to spend the money and Universal if you cannot or don't want to.
We have priority lists in our hospitals, so what Mr. Beck here is saying would not ever happen, you would get top priority since your injury is life threatening. Or, if you have private health insurance, you wouldn't even need to worry about wait times, the option for private is there.
I also live in Canada and thank you for trying to educate these people on how good it is to live in Canada and what they're missing out on. Just one thing I wanted to correct you on, Canada has a Socialist system, not a Capitalist
has a clown making conspiracy theories on the chalkboard and a sex predator calling people pinheads even when they have documented proof of their side for the sake of ''the truth''
i dont feel like paying out the wazzoo for 3 more years of life ... universal healthcare
sucks! not worth the money or the time i like my freedoms to choose to have healthcare and pay for my own and not the lardass at home, or the smokers lungs or the drug addicts liver... so on so forth
The US ranks terribly in health care by intl standards.
Ranked 37th by the W.H.O. in 2000
It ranked DEAD LAST (by a HUGE margin) amongst 8 countries compared in 2008 by the Commonwealth Fund
In June 2009, Harvard (an American school) published a study comparing America's system to Canada's:
"Canada Trumps U.S. in Healthcare, Study Says..Americans are less healthy than Canadians and have poorer and less accessible healthcare despite spending about twice as much on it per capita"
If you base your knowledge on what you see on American t.v., you are truly an idiot. Anyone with an IQ over 20 knows that is not a good way to educate yourself on a topic.
Is this a joke?
I mean do people in the US actually believe Glenn Beck's rants?
Surely this is a joke... please be a joke.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444
It is meant to be a joke, since the slant of the video is satrical in nature. It's not wrong to criticize socialized medicine, if that's what you're arguing. The rest of the world might look at America with awe, but when the talk of serious medical treatment is brought up, people come here to get it.
The government shouldn't be in the business of providing services that are not delineated in the constitution. The US healthcare system is socialized enough as it is.
regelemihai 4 months ago
Why should I pay for some fat fucks medical care that chooses not to exercise and eat healthy instead eats Mcdonalds for every meal. Or how about someone that smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day and needs a lung transplant. Or some drunken idiot trying to jump off a roof into a pool and breaks his leg?
whothaplaya 6 months ago
@whothaplaya Well seeing as you didn't put any other examples in there, which one are you? The "fat fuck", the "someone who smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day" or "some drunken idiot"?
voidlam 6 months ago
@voidlam None of them. I keep my self healthy therefore I shouldn't have to pay for people that do not choice a healthy lifestyles medical bills.
whothaplaya 6 months ago
@whothaplaya None of them? Then you don't need insurance the, do you?
voidlam 6 months ago
@voidlam As of right now, yes insurance is a waste of money for me. You never know just because I am healthy now doesn't mean I will be a year from now. A completely open healthcare and insurance market will make the prices drop a lot and will be affordable for nearly everyone.
whothaplaya 6 months ago
@whothaplaya Right, so because you might become unhealthy in the future, you have insurance.
And what of it for the people who can't afford insurance?
voidlam 6 months ago
@whothaplaya My grandparents remember the year that the NHS was implemented. "An absolute jewel" were their words. People no longer suffering the humiliation of being unable to pay, or turning down treatment.
Today, we like to complain about the NHS. But we are British, and we complain about anything and everything. At the end of the day, I would never see the system go, and it makes me feel so lucky to have been born British. Maybe you would understand if you were:
watch?v=mCrHlAemaFw
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 Mate, take a look at the tax bands. The basic rate for average income people (~£35,000) in the UK is 20%. In the US, families on a similar wage pay between 5% and 8% more or less; this hardly qualifies as an argument.
Granted, the UK has National Insurance, Council Tax and VAT, but the US has equivalents on a state level.
And no, the NHS is not FREE, just free at the point of use. The American govenment just spends the money on black projects and 5th generation fighters instead.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
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@BasilFawlty4444 Mate, take a look at the tax bands. The basic rate for average income people (~£35,000) in the UK is 20%. In the US, families on a similar wage pay between 5% and 8% more or less; this hardly qualifies as an argument.
Granted, the UK has National Insurance, Council Tax and VAT, but the US has equivalents on a state level.
And no, the NHS is not FREE, just free at the point of use. The American govenment just spends the money on black projects and 5th generation fighters instead.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@whothaplaya That's a very individualistic and right wing view of the world, very typical of America.
Remember, free healthcare also applies to you, your children, your parents and grandparents, etc etc.
Speakig from a country that has free healthcare, I have to say that the rest of the world looks at America in awe... as if you DON'T WANT a benevolent government system. What is with that? I honestly find it hard to understand why you listen to imberciles like Beck.
BasilFawlty4444 4 months ago
@BasilFawlty4444 It's not FREE when a huge percent of your pay goes to funding the system.
whothaplaya 4 months ago
i went to the emergency room a few months ago with gash above my eye bleeding out. They gave me a few pieces of gauze and an ice pack and had to sit there for 20 min till i was able to get in. I am an American with some of the best health insurance, i can only imagine what it would be like for someone poor or middle class that doesn't have the same care
TheRationalist76 7 months ago
why do so many americans have such a problem with free health care...in the UK we have it, yeah it aint perfect but u can always go private if u want, and it means poor people dont die when they could be saved and have to struggle to fork up money for health insurance, it seems like a no brainer to me
mmc786 7 months ago
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
MrShmetel 7 months ago
lol I was waiting in the emergency room to get my arm fixed once. Took me all night just to get through a diagnosis..meanwhile some old lady was crying and every so often get dosed with drugs to keep her quiet.
I guess that's Glenn's idea of a ideal system.
LordKaisen 8 months ago
it is so funny how glenn beck thinks he is now some kind of political intellectual and his viewers are smart reasoned thinkers amount of fallacies that this cunt spews
FightTh3P0wer 8 months ago
so let me get this straight.... he is mad because too many peope, who are sick mind you, are being helped at a hospital....
dasblackops 8 months ago
Now that's funny right there....I don't care who you are.
Now screw all the left win loons.
GutpileCharlie 9 months ago
@GutpileCharlie you literally quote that fake tard/ fake redneck and think anyone is going to take you seriously? You are as fake as the person you quote.
thewrightchad 2 weeks ago
Are you people stupid or what? This is exactly how America's MONEY MONEY healthcare system works.
vonVince 10 months ago 8
this is fun,, it sow easy just get busted whit a kilo of marijuana and they will send you for 3 to six months in the federal jail sistem and you will recive free dentist .free cirug.cancer an sow many more and free food organs from china fast way 2 or jump the border no problems human rights are whit you
sistemoneonone 11 months ago
I am shocked how much health care costs in America and i don't live in the place.
Mishkafofer 1 year ago
Strange how we consider the government taking half our income and spending it for us is "free" and good while a voluntary payment for service that comes no where near half your income even if you make minimum wage is evil...
Sad the poor schmucks end up waiting over a month for non life threatening conditions given the abhorrent amounts of money they are paying for their supposedly free services.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
obamacare is(was) a retarded idea.
Problems123 1 year ago
Brilliant
intrepidorator 1 year ago
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That might explain why so many Glenn Beck viewers act as though they have taken an anvil to the head
Cammers2991 1 year ago
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Cammers2991 1 year ago
If healthcare is "free" then people will be more inclined to go to the doctor since they wont have to pay out of pocket. That means more taxes will be taken for healthcare, and hospitals will be stretched thin with all the extra work... Does any of that sound illogical?
Nonphat1 1 year ago
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@Nonphat1 ---
Health care is never really free, it's just ten times cheaper here than in America so you avoid personal bankrupcy thank you.
If healthcare is NOT "free" then people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they WILL have to pay out of pocket. That means they will get worse and worse staying home instead of getting care, eventually being forced for REALLY expensive emergency care that someone has to pay for anyway. <_<
underbjorn 1 year ago
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@Nonphat1 ---
Health care is never really free, it's just ten times cheaper here than in America so you avoid personal bankrupcy thank you.
If healthcare is NOT "free" then people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they WILL have to pay out of pocket. That means they will get worse and worse staying home instead of getting care, eventually being forced for REALLY expensive emergency care that someone has to pay for anyway. <_<
underbjorn 1 year ago
@Nonphat1 ---
if health care is not free, people will be LESS inclined to go to the doctor since they will have to pay thousands of dollars, medicine is expensive, we all get that.
That means they will prefer tsay home, doing nothing or try cure it themselves, eventually getting worse.
At the end they will end up needing emergency care or succumb to their illness, and i tell you emergency care is WAY more expensive than if he/she would've gotten normal care in time. <__<
underbjorn 1 year ago
@underbjorn
That's assuming you don't go to the hospital when sick. (We know people do with the current system.)
With the current system, ESSENTIAL healthcare is available at tax payer expense. If you go to the hospital, and you're dying of something, the doctors are required by law to treat you. (Even if it's a slow killer.) If all healthcare becomes free, then there will be a waiting list to get treatment unless you're dying on the spot .(Provided there's room in the hospital for you.)
Nonphat1 1 year ago
@Nonphat1 ---
Even if it's a slow killer? Well, I did not know that was included in the U.S. So, if I get cancer and got no covering insurance (Or maybe had a corporate sponsored but my employer moved to China and booted me) I get no thousand dollar bills for it afterwards?
underbjorn 1 year ago
@Nonphat1 That isn't entirely true. ESSENTIAL healthcare is NOT payed for by taxpayers. The doctors will treat you sure, but I assure you the bills all on you. This is why healthcare is such a concern, because poor people get sick too. And the waiting-list-is-going-to-kill-you bullshit is overplayed and completely exaggerated. In short: Glen Beck is an idiot, you're an idiot, and the healthcare bill is the best thing to happen to American medicine in a long time.
sam4084 1 year ago
@Nonphat1 ---
Besides, just to clarify, there is no place on Earth where health care is actually free. Just that here, it is ten times cheaper than in the U.S.
underbjorn 1 year ago
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well many people in this nation do not have health care and there is no way they can afford it. glenn beck and many just like him don't care if you die, as long as they are well taken care of and their loved ones. they will not care about those with no insurance.
CristinaSantos1986 1 year ago
I love the last part. LOL
GlennRoxWyo 1 year ago
Russia sucks
RPGfanatic100 1 year ago
you d ask, if all these other countries had such awesome healthcare, why do people come here?
crazyassblinddude 1 year ago
@crazyassblinddude Because they can afford to get all the care they want, whenever they want. You don't see Joe Everyman from Canada hopping the boarder to get our expensive health care, now do you?
SUMD123 1 year ago
@SUMD123 heatlh care free health care houses for every homeless person trillion dollar programs to feed the homeless, i mean all thats great, take it out of existing taxes, dont force me to buy into this, i think thats what some of us who oppose this think, thats fine you wanna feed the entire nation, give em free health care give the jobless and those who realy arnt that interested in working, give em healthcare thats cool, just dont come in with this "mandatory" deal ive been eharing
crazyassblinddude 1 year ago
@SUMD123 We do see their gov'y bigwigs doing it.Or do you live under a rock?
GlennRoxWyo 1 year ago
@SUMD123
I don't know, but mexicans love their free healthcare here in america.
vegetorott 1 year ago
@crazyassblinddude Why do a lot of americans go to mexico or canada if yours is the best system. The current system is great if your rich but for everyone else who can't afford it or struggles to afford it or are denied coverage it's not so good.
PixelPlox 1 year ago
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Stewy2540 1 year ago
In Canada ppl wait upto 5 days and USA is 5 times bigger!
hdhatt05 1 year ago
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Stewy2540 1 year ago
@hdhatt05 no we don't
Redfox161616 1 year ago
because that's the way it works in every country with socialized healthcare...???
SpaghettiDjango 1 year ago
wow...talk about propoganda and scare tactics...
misaluvakatsa 1 year ago
@misaluvakatsa That's not propoganda. I don't think Glenn Beck made this. He's not trying to scare people, neither is the person who made this.
koopalingsforever19 1 year ago
@koopalingsforever19 youz a lie
CristinaSantos1986 1 year ago
um thats didnt make any sense...
KangaKucha 1 year ago
WHen you have to prove your political agenda through song.....You know you've failed in life.
grobo11 1 year ago
Loved it....absolutely loved it!!! Glenn Beck for president.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ChairmanYin 1 year ago
@v12tommy
i would love he won the GOP presidential canidate, Obama would win for sure, Glenn Beck is too insane, those undecieded would vote for Obama, and the the 25% of the population that likes Glenn Beck would vote for him.
So im with you, just not for president.
TheAmericanCanadian 1 year ago
@TheAmericanCanadian I was a huge Lou Dobbs fan until he left CNN, and then I found Glenn Beck. Sometimes he gets a little crazy, but the stuff he says about the current administration makes perfect sense. It took me a bit to get used to his craziness, but now I watch him religiously every night. I would vote for him any day over Obama. As for the undecided vote...that is me. Sure I don't agree with him on everything, but the main points he has spot on.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy
you should watch the young turks. they have a great webshow on youtube.
i'll tell you what, i'll watch a glenn beck video, if you watch a video from the young turks.
TheAmericanCanadian 1 year ago
@TheAmericanCanadian I have seen the young turks before. I am not a fan. Nothing against them personally or anything, they just seem to be more about personal opinion and not about the facts themselves. Glenn Beck also has opinions, but the majority of his facts come from the people themselves saying it. He doesn't just say someone like Van Jones is a socialist, he shows video of Van Jones proclaiming himself as a socialist. Plus lower taxes and less spending is always a good thing.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy
i think you've got the two mixed up.
oh well.
nice to actually have a civilized conversation with someone on the internet.
TheAmericanCanadian 1 year ago
@TheAmericanCanadian There are things I have in common with TYT, and also things I don't agree with Glenn Beck on, I am just not for big government. I like the private sector because you can vote with your money. If you don't like a business or its practices, don't shop there. If enough people don't shop there, they change their practices. I can't do that with government because I am legally required to pay taxes which they use however they want.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy
That makes sense, but youre basically neing selfish. There are millions of americans who are un insured, and thousands who die because of that. Supporting health care reform is supporting patriotism, and the american people.
TheAmericanCanadian 1 year ago
@TheAmericanCanadian I am all for reform to lower health insurance costs and removes preexisting conditions, but that is it. I don't care if people are uninsured...if that is an issue for them maybe they should get off their lazy butt and get a job. I don't see how me helping pay their healthcare bills is patriotic? I make more than enough money to pay for my own healthcare, yet I am still uninsured and I don't see an issue, so why should I have to pay for someone else?
v12tommy 1 year ago 2
I honestly never heard anyone suggest that the public option was free. Have I missed something? That, like Medicare, you would pay into it.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 the public option may not be completely free, but it has to be close. The idea of the public option is that the government supports the people that can't afford healthcare and the rest of us foot the bill. I am perfectly capable of paying for my own health insurance, yet I choose not to, so why should I be forced to pay for someone else's healthcare when I don't want to even pay to get my own healthcare?
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy You suppoert thousands of people, from fed employees to soldiers. Why aren't you complaining about them?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 I am for small government, I want to support as few federal employees as possible. As for the soldiers, I cannot support them enough. Even if someone wanted to talk bad about the military, if you ask a soldier he may disagree with your view, but he or she will fight until their last dying breath so that you will be allowed to express that view. If I had my way, our soldiers would get paid as much as congress, and congress would get the current pay of the soldiers.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy Then you are actually in the minority of Republicans. The bailout, the Patriot Act, both Republican "big gov" ideas! The GOP wants Laissez-faire Capitalism, where the free-market can run hog wild but wants government control over your and my life! The conservative hero; Ronald Reagan, grew the power of the government and the president by leaps and bounds.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 I don't see anything wrong with the patriot act, it is a tool to help hunt down terrorists...sounds good to me. The stimulus bill was voted down by all house republicans, all but 3 in the senate, and I don't agree with TARP one bit. Nobody is too big to fail. As for Reagan growing the size of government, I think you need to ask Ralph Nader on that one, cause Carter grew the size of government and Reagan reversed most of Carter's polices in his first weeks in office.
v12tommy 1 year ago
@v12tommy "Those willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security." Ben Franklin. Still like the Patriot Act? Hardly a "big government" guy myself. I just hate conservative hypocrisy. You don't recall Sarah Palin's ramblings about the bailout? People replay it to this day, to illustrate how dumb she is.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@RadarKat73080 I don't see how we give up any freedom with the patriot act. As for hypocrisy, I like the majority of Sarah Palin's views but she lacks the experience and knowledge to pull them off. Bush was a complete bumbling idiot. It is nice to see how low congress' and Obama's approval ratings are cause people are finally taking action. I don't want bailouts of any kind. I would really like to see a flat income tax, so everyone pays an equal percentage.
v12tommy 1 year ago
If you want to know how "free" health care works - just come to Europe, e.g. Poland. You have to wait sometimes even three years (!) for an appointment in clinic, hospitals are poor and underdeveloped, doctors have to work 80 hours a week (sic!) to earn their low payment, more than half of society chooses private clinics (but they stiil have to pay for public sector!) and health care 'eats' humongous percentage of GNP.
Blyfycyfyfyf 1 year ago 2
@Blyfycyfyfyf lol, where the hell do you live :p
here in belgium you can go in a clinic instantly, hospitals are state of the art and being a doctor means: rich. We have 1 doctor per 222 residents (which is a lot :p)
You guys should focus more on the public sector! :p
denisdebacker 1 year ago
@Blyfycyfyfyf YEAH? WELL I HAD A COLD WHEN I WAS VISITING MY FRIEND IN LONDON, WALKED INTO THE CLINIC, GOT ANTIBODIES, PAID NOTHING. AND IM NOT EVEN ENGLISH. UMAD?
ChairmanYin 1 year ago
i didnt see that anvil fall on me... Dong! lol
scoobydoorocks100 1 year ago
LOL Glenn rox!
scoobydoorocks100 1 year ago
Hallarious!...You got to give it to Glen's team. They are creative...lol...
GodsTruth2008 1 year ago
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@GodsTruth2008 I am happy to help the illegals come to the US, THIS IS REALLY MEXICAN LAND. 7 States, as the white populations continues toward extinction and Mexicans continue having more children coupled with the new settlers from Mexico reclaiming their land the end is near for the USA. My family has been NATIVE BORN ARIZONAN for 5 generations(120 years) and the Mexicans coming here are liberators. Caucasian people are dirty and use up all the welfare, health and education benefits.
Diegolopolis 1 year ago
17% of Americans live below the poverty line. with 300 million people in America, this comes to 51 million people in America living below the poverty line. Thats 51 million people without the health insurance they may need to save their life one day. would you really leave it up to chance that these people dont get hurt rather than paying a little extra in taxes? that greedy and selfish.
TheSeantague 1 year ago 2
@TheSeantague Here here!
dazpatreg 1 year ago
@TheSeantague Ok first of all it is not a little tax, also half of those people are illegals who shouldn't even be her (i'm not against immgrants i'm against people coming over here illegally when others wait so long to come here) also some of those people don't even want health care. You should look to Canada or Britain where waiting list for screenings and doctor appointments range from years to months. God us selfish this will only make our health care system more worse then it already is
kaybbayyy2362 1 year ago
@kaybbayyy2362 i'll bet you didnt know that the majority of those living below the poverty line are white and NOT your stereotypical hispanic illegal. according to the us cencus bureau, 12.4 percent of whites are 125 percent below the poverty level with 28.8 percent of hispanics, but this comes to 12,805,970 hispanics and 24,002,733 whites living below the line. So whites outnumber hispanics almost 2 : 1 for living under the poverity line.
TheSeantague 1 year ago
@TheSeantague Ok i know that not just hispanic's live below the poverty level, half my family lives below the poverty level. And hate to say it but everybody's going to be rich or in middle class and government in there lives will always keep them poor & people will never have the motive to better themselves. Government doesn't solve problems. Also i never once said i was against hispanics i'm against any kind of Illegal immigration, plenty of people wait years to come to this country
kaybbayyy2362 1 year ago
@kaybbayyy2362 I never once said you were against hispanics, just playing off the central stereotype.
TheSeantague 1 year ago
@TheSeantague and they shouldn't cheat there way into these country
kaybbayyy2362 1 year ago
Just so you simple people know, you don't wait anytime for a Docitor to treat critical injuries in Canada. If it's not life threatning you may wait a few months. I would rather do that then pay $300,000 for a procedure and move in with the kids after I declare bankruptcy! lol...and another thing you should know is we have just as good or better quality Doctors and facilities then the USA. Grow a brain and stop listening to US Republican BS.
jdlr64 1 year ago
@jdlr64 You may have that in Canada where they don't even have a real first amendment right but us America's don't want to be forced more then half of america was against this bill and yet congress still passed it
kaybbayyy2362 1 year ago
@deegan45 i didn't say that, so don't make like i did. and u still havent answered my question. is the steven crowder video representative of the canadian health care system?
dilauroj94 1 year ago
@deegan45 WHOA, your page says you live in the US.. so which one is it?
dilauroj94 1 year ago
@deegan45 do you mean the steven crowder video? because he went to a hospital in canada i believe quebec. so is his video misrepresenting canada's system
dilauroj94 1 year ago
@deegan45 how so? i mean, thats what it's like in canada. granted, this video was obviously comedy but watch steven crowder's video about canada
dilauroj94 1 year ago
@deegan45 You don't need that when you're on TV.
alexfanx 1 year ago
Free healthcare sucks, let's get in debt from paying medical bills.
alexfanx 1 year ago
so me a hard working red blooded american nra member, who works 50hrs a week pays my taxes wait but whats this my appendix burst without warning. now Im in $24,000 in debt from my surgery & my insurance didn't cover it. True story happened to me. Tell you what I wish I had Obama care when that happened.
ZaidNitsua 1 year ago
@ZaidNitsua You had insurance that didn't cover it? Why not? The health care reform wouldn't have made a difference (since you had insurance) anyway
mar504 1 year ago
hahahahaha i have free health care YAY AUSTRALIA
faggotfriends 1 year ago
LMFAO, hilarious!! Please do one with this guy as a bankrupt bum on the street from those $30,000 bandages!
ih8grep 1 year ago
All Republicans are Neocons. At least Neocon PUPPETS.
HAHAHA!! You LOST asswipes! I'm happy to announce that YOU, the Republican taxpayer shall be paying for ALL OF MY HIV medications, extending my life so I may continue luring your kids into the growing Gay Community and promoting our agenda to convert your children into pro-queer participants as we take this country for ourselves.
It's our America now, it's our Queer Nation.
You had your chance for eight fucking years, now it's mop-up time.
assfuckt 1 year ago
I just adjusted my federal and state tax forms, not a single dime will be taken out in income tax to pay for your life style. You want health care? Pay for it your self.
wg40504 1 year ago
@wg40504 so when your house catches on fire, the firemen won't come & save your shit & the cops won't catch me after setting the fire. FUCK you, you tax evading un patriotic fool.
ZaidNitsua 1 year ago
@assfuckt
*slap*
gays like you make me sick
GodAthie 1 year ago
@assfuckt How about instead of HIV medications, the taxes pay to have children injected with AIDS, I mean what's the point of treating HIV when you can just give everyone AIDS and let nature take its course. Then we could have the drug companies focus on breeding AIDS so we could finally legalize marijuana. AIDS will keep the illegal immigrants out too and the terrorists won't wanna get our AIDS.
alexfanx 1 year ago
This commercial is incredibly scewed. If his head injury was critical, wouldn't it be dealt with by emergency care, something which is already provided by the government at little or no cost? And if so, how would that be effected by healthcare reform? If the injury wasn't critical, how would healthcare reform make the process slower? There is only one conceivable way I can think of: because more people have healthcare which means more people need medicine. Am I missing something?
prophesize 1 year ago 9
More people will flood the ER for every and any reason if they didn't have a bill. i can see people bringing kids in with low grade fever and things that can wait for a doctor visit. If something is free it's easy to take it as much of as as you can get, it's free. why would people refrain and wait a illness out. why buy tylol when they can get it at the hospital for free? people would abuse the system.
chriscougar86 1 year ago
That's a good hypothetical point, but: 1) people don't exactly like to go to the doctor so I find it unlikely people would make a hobby out of it unless they were hypochondriacs; 2) Even if they get checked out more often that doesn't mean they'll get sick more often and use emergency equipment. 3) By getting checked out more often the system might prevent worse diseases and conceivably free up the system where it actually counts. 4) I'd rather have patients abuse the system than insurance co's.
prophesize 1 year ago
Finally, your reason behind it is still at its heart cynical and anti-populist. You still fear that more people getting care more often would hurt your chances of getting better and you would rather neglect their health concerns and risk their lives than wait an hour or so more in the hospital - something which I believe to be selfish, un-egalitarian and, I hope, un-American. Some things just can't be cured by tylenol, chriscougar86.
prophesize 1 year ago
@prophesize
no.... your NOT missing anything... its a bullshit comercial spewing bullshit rhetoric.
i loved the ending too: "offer applies after voting democrat and not listening to the glenn beck program"
how conceted :P
pretty much the only good thing i can say about this glenn beck fellow, is at least he doesnt go about erasing peoples negative comments on his videos like some posters do. god knows it would be a full time job for THIS guy though ^_^
jaduggar420 1 year ago
@prophesize
No... i don't know where you live, but in America emergency care isn't free.
More people on healthcare with the same amount of doctors and providers does mean rationed healthcare or long waits.
Government run programs such as medicare are a pain in the ass bureaucracy and any billing in hospitals or family practices hate it at least 3:1 (and if its not covered, you can't pay out of pocket)
Reform is okay, socialized medicine isn't since there is no freedom of choice
vegetorott 1 year ago
@vegetorott That is a common misconception. I have universal healthcare and i'm still free to buy private insurance if i want. I choose not to because my universal coverage covers me the same as the private option, only it's less expensive and they can't deny me treatment for the sake of profit margins. The option to buy private is always there for those who can afford it, but those who can't afford it aren't just left to die.
PixelPlox 1 year ago
@prophesize In socialized medicine, it can take years to get a catscan or EKG, which at the time might not be critical, but if you wait to long and have a tumor you die. you cant just see a doctor whenever you want, there are waitlists, When I lived in England and I was pregnant, I broke my hip. The government refused to give me an Xray untill after my baby was born. I'm not the only one who has experienced this. people come from all over the world to benefit from the US health care system
crownme555 1 year ago
@crownme555 ---
hahaha.
Yeee. Well, while the U.S has emergency care like any other developed country, you damn sure have to pay thousands of dollars for anything not emergency, don't you? What if you cant afford it, huh?
In the U.S, no one gives a shit and you get billed time after time until you lose home and property. =)
In Europe, the govt in exchange for a bit higher taxes for wealthy ppl helps you if you cannot afford it.
underbjorn 1 year ago
@underbjorn We also half tax cuts for the rich to cause "Tax Cuts for the Rich creates new jobs." What a bunch of bologni. I agree.
HoGraz 1 year ago
This is nonsense. As an EU Citizen working in Germany, I was entitled to full health insurance. For just 10% of my salary and an extra €10 - 13 freakin' dollars! - over 3 months, I had a full health check-up, treatment of an wound, and dental care. How much would that cost in the states?
BNJT 1 year ago
Thank you. Many of my misinformed fellow Americans laugh at me when I mention universal health care.
PsychoPunk1965 1 year ago 4
@BNJT A ungodly amount that will raise taxes to beyond number. People will have to work harder to pay for someone else's doctor. Doctors will be payed less and move away reducing the numbers of doctors. People who invent medicines and medical equipment for money leave because they can no longer make profit.
In other words, we get screwed because Michael Moore thinks found some sad sob stories.
Scotish223332 1 year ago
This is obscene. Thousands of americans die each year becasue they have no access to health care and this prick is lying about it? The fact is that EVERY OTHER "modern" country has public health care and their citizens don't die becasue of money. I hope Glenn Beck gets cancer.
fried2styles 1 year ago
@fried2styles We are the richest country in the entire bloody world moron. We are above Modern.
Free healthcare will kill ALOT more people >:/
Think before you vote :P
Scotish223332 1 year ago
"Free health care will kill A LOT more people."
wait...wut
LordPenguin7485 1 year ago
@LordPenguin7485 It can and it has x.x
Think about it, because of private health care we have some of the most advance medicines and medical equipment in the world and sell it to other countries. We mass produce all this stuff. We have the best doctors and the most in the world because they get paid very well.
Switching to public will kill people if you compare the benefits and ricks :3
Scotish223332 1 year ago
I can verify that socialised medicine does not work like this at all. Glenn Beck is making this stuff up.
CrazyMeCrazyYou 2 years ago 7
Your right... It's worse than Beck makes it sound
Twenty-six patients in a Cuban mental hospital died from hypothermia during an unusually cold winter just recently... In a HOSPITAL.
Here in the U.S. you go to a hospital to get treated for that, not to DIE of it
Razgriez1 2 years ago
Yes but I live in the UK which like cuba has socialised medicine but unlike cuba isn't in the third world. cuba is a poor country that doesn't mean the system is broken.
CrazyMeCrazyYou 2 years ago 2
@CrazyMeCrazyYou Of course Glenn Beck made this up. He probably makes up the majority of what he says. If Universal (Don't want to use socialized, because then people will call it socialist) Health Care didn't work, then U.K. and Canada wouldn't use it.
GFedFan 1 year ago
@GFedFan if it didn't work a good portion of the world wouldn't use it but for real glen beck is a fucking moron
zangetsu9915 1 year ago
@CrazyMeCrazyYou It's not free anyway.
HoGraz 1 year ago
I'm not for socializing healthcare!!! I'm for the public option. HENCE THE WORD "OPTION"!!!!!!! If you like your plan KEEP IT!!!! This new version congress is trying to pass has been compromised. So chalk another one up for special interest.
tacoliqour 2 years ago
I must have struck a nerve... my last comment was removed.
tacoliqour 2 years ago
That was funny!
santanaramostarango 2 years ago
I know this is satire, but no one in Canada or any freehealth care country waits if you have an anvil fall on your head. In the USA most people can't even get into the waiting room (without going tens of thousands into debt). In Canada you can, and you dont have to wait.
EdGuila 2 years ago 3
Sorry but I'd rather not wait 6 months before I'm approved by a government medical board to have knee surgery. Rationing is a biatch.
Besides....I don't see canada stepping up to the task of treating half of mexico's population.
11damion11 2 years ago
no doubt, you know how many more will climb the fence if they could walk into a hospital for free will no bill.
chriscougar86 1 year ago
Glenn beck is rich...like the politicians who will not be under the national health. Amazing how he's the bad one.
And GB is a sex predator? Oh that's funny. On the site that has this claim, they say if anyone ever believes it they are morons. ziomany, you are a moron.
Svt4Him 2 years ago
First off,Why do you care if your a Canadian? Second, No member congress,senate,or the messiah himself is going to be on this waste of money,Canadian socialist,heathcare reform. obama said it himself. So no more crossing the border for heathcare. We are going to be just as awful as you now.
22reTOYOTA 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You have to understand how dumb certain people are. Take for instance Glenn Beck's audience, who never takes into consideration the fact that he's rich and can afford the best Insurance for his family. Meanwhile, your insurance is getting crappier and more expensive until guess what? You can't afford it or they reject you for "pre-existing conditions". God forbid something happens to you. Then what? There goes your home and you're in serious debt. Ask a cancer patient how cheap treatment is.
tacoliqour 2 years ago
That would happen with Socialized Healthcare (you thought I was going to say "medicine" didn't you?_) Imagine if the government controled healthcare?
santanaramostarango 2 years ago
yes our health care is good if you have insurance but what if you cant afford it? Then you have to choose between a foot or a hand because of your budget. some things need to be socialized and health care is one of them so suck it
Krypticzrage91 2 years ago
176,000 Americans that didn't have health insurance died during both of bush's term.. 336,000,000 babies were killed by abortion, not including leap years..
leav1ng99 2 years ago
Way to make a point by ending it with the words "Suck It". I'm sure you win all your arguments that way.
xcef2005 2 years ago
Healthcare shouldn't be socialized! America can't afford it!
santanaramostarango 2 years ago
European countries with nationalised healthcare spend less GDP and get about the same care.
CrazyMeCrazyYou 2 years ago
swim to Cuba for socialism. have fun!
chriscougar86 1 year ago
If there is one thing, all the dems act just like their party mascot.(jackass)
TheRazorbackpilot 2 years ago
The ignorance in this video is amazing...
How limited this mind must be.
bigdeadrobot 2 years ago
How uninformed can you be?
Ozarkagain 2 years ago
hahaha..... offer applies after voting demcrat
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago 4
I find it totally ironic that they use a company that profits off of being free to prove the point that free things don't work. Little does the maker of this video understand about rationing. Mainly that it really only occurs in purely socialist systems, not in systems with a public or private option.
Jahonay 2 years ago
lol
Mostdef 2 years ago
Name: InfinitusVerum.
Location: UK
Healthcare system: Free NHS.
Your NHS rating out of 10: 9
Would be still alive if wasn't for the NHS: NO!
Higher Taxes: Yes.
Will get treated no matter what: Yes.
Thank God for the NHS: Yes.
infinitusverum 2 years ago
"Thank Beveridge" might be more appropriate.
I really don;t see why there should be any debate over whether or not a society should offer free healthcare to its populace.
phocjame 2 years ago
Coming from someone in a country WITH free health care, I must say it isn't like that at all. Here, ambulances are actually able to make it to your house before a pizza delivery, hospitals base who goes in first on the severity of injury, not on a first come first serve basis. People dont get mounted in debt if they have low income, and nobody is ever denied care. And that... well thats just awesome.
FakeSickProductions 2 years ago 2
UNREAL - this whole "death panel" nonsense and "killing grandma" - come on people, I can hardly believe anyone's even pushing this propaganda. Moreover, that anyone's even b
TheVeggiemommy 2 years ago 2
ok, if that's not true, then why did they drop it?
drummer703 2 years ago
so the republicunts fall into their trap and use, if we gave you all you wanted, why are you still saying no?
face it, republicunts are impervious to facts and as long as clowns like beck and limbaugh keep spewing propaganda, these moronic right wing fundamentalist republicunts will drink the kool aid like its jesus juice.
while people in canada and the rest of the world pity you guys while laughing
if you only knew.
ziomany 2 years ago
Pity us? We pity YOU.
We know we have the best healthcare which is why we don't want to change it.
I went to the doctor yesterday and got treatment. Guess how long I waited? 5 MINUTES! AMERICAN CAPITALISM RULES!!
drummer703 2 years ago 2
thats the average time i wait to see a doctor during summertime as well. You have absolutely no idea how good we have it here, i guess thats why your 37th and we're 30th
best healthcare my ass... dipshit yank.
oh also, lookup the list of the countries with the best investment opportunities and soundness of banks, canada comes 1st in both.
ya capitalism rules; if you live in canada.
you shouldn't of said those things if you didn't know the facts.
ziomany 2 years ago
I know the facts, and the facts are that we are the only country that people come to when they can't get treatment in their own country, canada included.
Keep the language up, it's a good way to represent your country.
drummer703 2 years ago 2
drummer703:
What Obama is trying to give you in the States is almost exactly the same as what we have up here. Private Healthcare if you want to spend the money and Universal if you cannot or don't want to.
We have priority lists in our hospitals, so what Mr. Beck here is saying would not ever happen, you would get top priority since your injury is life threatening. Or, if you have private health insurance, you wouldn't even need to worry about wait times, the option for private is there.
SableKnightCamus 2 years ago
Problem is, if you don't use the government-run healthcare, you'll be fined! So, where's the option?
santanaramostarango 2 years ago
why is there a fine? where did you hear there was fine? how much is the fine?
CrazyMeCrazyYou 2 years ago
Ziomany
I also live in Canada and thank you for trying to educate these people on how good it is to live in Canada and what they're missing out on. Just one thing I wanted to correct you on, Canada has a Socialist system, not a Capitalist
SableKnightCamus 2 years ago 2
Then how do you explain that Glen beck was very critical of the health care system in early 2008.
Garhunt05 2 years ago
stop watching cnn. watch fox, it's not conservative, it's just true. sorry to ruin your day.
leav1ng99 2 years ago
ya the channel that
has a clown making conspiracy theories on the chalkboard and a sex predator calling people pinheads even when they have documented proof of their side for the sake of ''the truth''
call the great gazoo
ziomany 2 years ago
Actually Canadians live nearly three years longer on the average so things can't be that bad. :)
And yes, the USA is a superpower, no debate there.
robbell 2 years ago 2
Oh wow a whole 3 years???
ROFL!
i dont feel like paying out the wazzoo for 3 more years of life ... universal healthcare
sucks! not worth the money or the time i like my freedoms to choose to have healthcare and pay for my own and not the lardass at home, or the smokers lungs or the drug addicts liver... so on so forth
GOPKitty 2 years ago
nice point.... i guess that means ure a racist who is trying to undermine obama.... u bigot scumbag.... btw that was sarcasm
dcarterfrom07 2 years ago 6
robbell:
A superpower three trillion dollars in debt, you mean
SableKnightCamus 2 years ago
The US ranks terribly in health care by intl standards.
Ranked 37th by the W.H.O. in 2000
It ranked DEAD LAST (by a HUGE margin) amongst 8 countries compared in 2008 by the Commonwealth Fund
In June 2009, Harvard (an American school) published a study comparing America's system to Canada's:
"Canada Trumps U.S. in Healthcare, Study Says..Americans are less healthy than Canadians and have poorer and less accessible healthcare despite spending about twice as much on it per capita"
thechriscorr 2 years ago 2
If you base your knowledge on what you see on American t.v., you are truly an idiot. Anyone with an IQ over 20 knows that is not a good way to educate yourself on a topic.
thechriscorr 2 years ago