Aileen Wuornos : American Folk Hero and Feminist Icon

[Wolfbloodvamps171]

I think that if those men abused her then she acted in self defence.

[AtheismCentral]

Some of the people here fail to realize she was raped and she only killed johns who abused her.

[pixiheart1199]

Thank you for this video, AAA+++

[BoadieMcLeod]

She only killed in self-defense.

[TheDeistAngle]

110% agree. Wournos was a hero, and should have not only been released, but given a series of easy to conceal weapon.

This woman served as the state of FL's antibody.

[prschuster]

Either she did shoot in self defense or she didn't. I don't think anyone here knows for sure, so it's an open question whether or not she was a murderer.

[detr1mentalist]

...well i guess it aint a secret no more ;)

[detr1mentalist]

as for her killing people, this falls into a moral grey area for me, i dont think its right to kill people, no matter what they do, ever, its noones right, i dont believe in eye for an eye. an ideal approach would be to arrest them, however its hard to convict someone for rape. its a fucked world for females and therefore its abit unfair to expect a person in her situation to act rationally or moral

and for the record if they did rape her, im secretly glad she killed them.

[detr1mentalist]

test

[iremythpurr]

@YesIamJames

She only killed johns for fuck sakes, its not like she killed good people, they were wasting precious resources!

[YesIamJames]

@iremythpurr And if I shot a woman 6 times in the chest for falsely accusing a man of rape that would be fine as well would it? It's not like she's a good person!

[iremythpurr]

@YesIamJames

LOL at comparing falsely accusing someone of rape (which I really don't think is as a big an issue as people make it out to be ) to being an actual rapist.

[iremythpurr]

@thisguysajerk

Yeah the guy who just launches into a personal assault with every comment is qualified to say that others don't understand facts...

as if.

[iremythpurr]

@YesIamJames

and then get raped...

[SeekerKC]

Aileen Wuornos' story is one of sickness & tragedy, not heroism. Heroism comes when one somehow elevates themselves &/or others despite the situation in which they find themselves. Eileen did nothing of the sort. She survived, yes, but only to descend deeper into chaos, ignoring every sign & opportunity to change -to elevate- her situation in life. She's just another victim who became a victimizer. It's almost boring in its predictability.

[trifelgeputinage]

Let's look deeper into the mind of a psychopath and make her into something she aint. Let's take a really serious look at this and then make up reasons to justify serial killing. Hitler was abused by his father, let's look deeper at Adolf's life and understand what made him kill all those people. In any society where justice is not served we should expect people to start shooting anyone and everyone they bloody well feel like. That will help. That will really help. Has it come to this? Really?

[stephenpaultaylor]

Didnt you see Monster? The majority of the men were either johns who just wanted some action or the one fellow who just wanted to help her and had no interest in fucking her. She killed innocent men. Sure, the first one was a sicko... but to say she is a feminist icon? Uh... no. I've also seen several of her interviews... she was pretty insane and paranoid. Not only that but her stories constantly changed.

[iremythpurr]

@stephenpaultaylor

"the majority of the men were johns that wanted some action or one fellow that just wanted to help her

Two issues with your stupid comment:

johns that want action deserve to be killed and I'm glad she killed them,

the nice fellow who wanted to help her didn't exist in real life. Its a fucking movie.

[rinatra]

@iremythpurr 'stupid comment'. nice way to treat people who comment on your videos. geez and i thought we were internet friends...

[stephenpaultaylor]

@iremythpurr you know, when amazingatheist was dissecting your response to his video and you responded by refusing to combat his points made, I stood by you even though I thought it would have been more courageous to actually stick by your perspective instead just ignoring his points... but now you refer to me as making a 'stupid comment' after you and i have been internet friends for quite a while. i was reading people's responses on this video earlier and I have to say, blocking people (cont)

[iremythpurr]

@stephenpaultaylor

What is this "we're friends" business. Its not even the case, we've never spoken outside of comments on our videos, I fail to see how we're friends.

You have a right to run your channel however you want. I AM A BUSY PERSON AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TREAT EVERY MORON LIKE THEIR OPINION IS EVEN WORTH SHARING. MY CHANNEL, MY CONTENT, MY RULES.

[stephenpaultaylor]

@iremythpurr fine. not friends, but friendly. come on... we've been commenting on each others vids for over a year. i just dont go around calling subscribers 'morons' and 'stupid' because i disagree with them... ever. i try to treat my subscribers with a modicum of respect.

and yeah, you said johns deserved to be killed... read your comments.

[iremythpurr]

@stephenpaultaylor

Yeah they do deserve to be killed, THEY PAY TO RAPE WOMEN.

[YesIamJames]

@iremythpurr Do you not understand the definition of rape?

[iremythpurr]

@YesIamJames

Yes, unwelcome sex at another's expense would be a pretty workable definition roight?

so prostitution = rape.

YAY.

[stephenpaultaylor]

@iremythpurr (cont) who disagree with you is no way to actually encourage intelligent discussion about points you raise. all it does is solidify what people seem to think about the points you raise in your videos. personally i would never condone murder for any reason whatsoever. i don't believe in murder. I believe in finding solutions to issues without resorting to murder. i hope you dont block me simply because i disagree with you, especially because you and i have been internet (cont)

[stephenpaultaylor]

@iremythpurr (cont) friends for awhile... but i seriously think that if you want to raise awareness about issues, instead of just blocking people, you should discuss your perspective with them. discussion is important. simply encouraging people to murder others is hardly productive. you may not agree with prostitution and of course i would never want my daughter to be a prostitute and as a career choice it is inherently rather sad, but to encourage murdering people who choose to have sex...

[stephenpaultaylor]

@iremythpurr with prostitutes: that's murder. that's encouraging murder. 

murder doesn't help anyone or anything. war doesn't help anyone or anything. i'm a buddhist and i believe in peace and I don't believe in pre-meditated murder.

calling my comments 'stupid' after we have been friends for quite awhile isnt very nice. i would never say that to you, i have always supported and appreciated comments you have left on our vids. always. happy NY

[iremythpurr]

@stephenpaultaylor

How have I encouraged anyone to murder?

[TFYFWYA]

@stephenpaultaylor

Sooo... you base your knowledge of this case on a FICTIONALIZED account out of Hollywood?

Your opinion is baseless.

[stephenpaultaylor]

@TFYFWYA And the numerous documentaries I have seen. I'm not a novice. To boot, speaking about the realistic details of the film, director Patty Jenkins said, "All those details in the film were meticulously worked on. I am really obsessive about those details and so is Charlize. I can't stand characters with contradictory information. And that's the reason why, hopefully, there's the level of reality there -- because we made that reality."

[thecindypwns]

this is hilarious

[iremythpurr]

@thecindypwns

Yo, whats hilarious is the responses to it!

[nails3jesus0]

She would have been treated like shit permanently through virtually any other course of action. Anyone who knows about her past can see how little a chance she ever had to do anything except be raped and abused by men permanently. It was not likely that she would have survived prostitution in the long term.

[freethinkeronice]

Calling Aileen Wuornos a hero and presenting her as a feminist icon disrepects and trivializes her suffering. If we acept your reading of the facts this woman was first and foremost a victim who suffered imensly and eventually was killed by the state. She fought back, as you call it, because she felt forced, scared and miserable, those actions only caused her more grief and suffering. They were part of the same abusive dynamic that made her life miserable and eventually lead to her death

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

Well thats a bit more of a sane comment than most have left.

You may have a point, I still say that its important to honor people who may fail. A lot of my heroes are people that may not have met their goals but at least they did something.

How many people don't do anything?

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

Not all inaction is inferior to any action. Maybe there's a language issue, English isn't my first. I fully support setting the record straight, opposing efforts to demonize her, to point out the errors in the prosecution, faillures of society in this case and in that way honor her memory. I will however not support protraying this terrible tradgedy as an example of an aceptable answer to male opression or worse a valid strategy for women's liberation.

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

" I will however not support protraying this terrible tradgedy as an example of an aceptable answer to male opression or worse a valid strategy for women's liberation."

I don't think my video portrayed it as either, it didn't intend to. I just think that women who fight back should be honored, even if they fail because so many women just go along and never do anything and even perpetuate the injustice.

At least she recognized it was unjust what happened to her.

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

I feel that's what calling her a hero and feminist icon does.

If forced to look at her actions from a political perspective, don't see her actions as political, don't even see them as free choices she made, but judging Aileen Wuornos's actions that way they can only be seen as wholly reactionary. Her actions didn't change society, didn't challenge opressive conditions and didn't improve anything.I don't blame her for that because as said it's not the way I see what happend

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

I guess we disagree then. I think ultimately the title of this video forces people to think about her in a very different way.

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

That ' the title of this video forces people to think about her in a very different way.' is something we can agree on and evident from the response in comments and elsewhere. On the larger issue yes we disagree, I srill cant call Aileen Wuornos a hero or feminist icon, though glad to read your clairifications about impressions I got. I could be mistaken about them. Thanks for sharing your views

[freethinkeronice]

@freethinkeronice

She was a victim imo, not a hero nor a monster, her actions results of personal suffering and a miserable situation, not of conciously fighting back, political or otherwise.

You also seem indifferent to the lives of the men, something I can understand, no love lost from me there either, but still can't support. Presenting violent actions by individuals, how understanable they may be, as a valid alternative to concious political struggle is wrongheaded.

[freethinkeronice]

@freethinkeronice

As a Marxist I frimly reject the retrograde theories of Maoism that seem to influence your outlook and perspective.

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

I also am not a maoist, I am a Trotskyist and feminist. You've taken my opinions about one individual out of context and are wrong about your conclusions.

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

I didn't call you a maoist either. What I said is that maoist theories seem to influence your perspective, that's again purely a statement regarding my impression based on this video and the general theme of your channel. Once more, yes I could also be wrong there. In the tile of this video you call Aileen Wuornos a hero and feminist icon. Those terms have political connotations, saying she did society a favor several times also implies this video is about more than

[freethinkeronice]

@freethinkeronice

your personal opinion about one individual. Heroes and icons are examples, role models etcetera. Maybe my conclusions are indeed wrong but maybe you could have made a better video or maybe your views are not as clear and well thoughtout as you like to think.

I find your position on johns appaling and completely don't understand how you get there. Like it or not they are still your fellow human beings

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

Oh okay, I find the fact that you're a Marxist and think that johns deserve the same respect as other human beings pretty appalling, seeing as they pay to rape other humans.

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

I don't think nor said they deserve the same respect as other human beings. I'm talking about a bare minimum, universal delceration of human rights, that sort of thing . I can loath someone and still believe their life has value or even try to against my primitive instincts because I think that's the healthy, just and moral thing to do. Second, not all prostitution is rape in my opinion, is that what you think? Ifso, why and how?

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

I suggest watching my other videos to get a grasp of why I think that about prostitution.

[iremythpurr]

@freethinkeronice

I think johns (men who pay to rape women) are the most wretched people on this planet and I am indifferent to their lives, yes.

I also think you are completely misrepresenting my position: I don't present violent actions by individuals as a valid alternative to political struggle. I've made that clear several times yet you continue to say this. Its not the case.

[freethinkeronice]

@iremythpurr

I type slow, comments have a character limit , several comments before I read your clarification after which I acknowledged I could be wrong about that impression and others. That I continued to misrepresent your position is not the case, mixed communication is the reason there, me still writing comments before reading your replies. That does however not exclude the possibility that despite your convicdtions the video gives another impression

[laurelinintherain]

One thing that occurs to me about all this is the issue of self-defence, and how we define it. I bring it up because in cases of women killing abusive partners, their actions are often not accepted as self-defence because they sometimes plan the killings, knowing that if they don't act they will be murdered by their partner the next time they're beaten. justiceforwomen(dot)org(dot)uk for info

[laurelinintherain]

@laurelinintherain THIS COMMENT TO BE INTERPRETED AS ME ASKING QUESTIONS, RAISING ISSUES, *NOT* COMING TO CONCLUSIONS ABOUT PARTICULAR CASES. OK?

So don't bullshit me, haters. Are we clear?

[DEITYNEMESISAMAZON]

Yes society let this poor soul down ..and this poor woman should have gotten help as a Child ..

The only peace she found was death ..

It breaks my heart how people in society could do this to children .. What chance did she have ?? Where were her teachers & councilors ??

[keithmoslak]

Are you serious? Poor little girl, she had no choice but to suck off/murder those perverts. Fuck you. You're as fucked up as she ever was. That being said, go ahead and delete my post. You seem to have done a lot of that already judging by the numerous favorable posts I've read in response to this pathetic apology. You're a sad little girl. Hope you don't shoot the next pecker that stares you in the face.

[iremythpurr]

@keithmoslak

Clearly you haven't read the comments onion-head.

Judging by your comment I can assess that you no doubt are a flaming misogynist and victim blamer.

Eat a dick, etc.

[PoliticallyEndcorrec]

further more why kill in self defense and never report what took place? instead only when your caught do you find a need to tell the proper authorities what took place? from a law stand point (prosecutor & jury) it seems pretty hard to believe it was done in self defense. maybe you were looking for a laugh or two when you made this. this is total fail though you were better off talking about far better women than her lol.

[PoliticallyEndcorrec]

this is complete bullshit the crazy women robbed these men after they so called raped her? who gets raped defends and then defends them selves just to rob a person? i go to school for law and pride my self on being good at what i do and her story never added up. most rape victims either never report it or will tell males they are close to for revenge. i am not saying it could not have happened but the evidenced in her case never added up.

[Omgsarge]

How is she a American Folk Hero and Feminist Icon?

She confessed in the end to killing the men in 1st degree. She was an unstable, tragic victim and couldn't cope with her life and killed 7 people and took money, belongings and their cars. Is that what somebody does in self defence? Show me evidence that every one of those men was violent and tried to rape her except only her testimony. Never mind that she testified later that she didn't kill them in self defence.

[Elenkhos]

After I watched this I grabbed a beer from the fridge, went outside and poured on the ground man, and as them soapy suds sizzled away in the snow, I looked up at the stars and I said"Thank you, thank you Aileen for not killing me" Then I looked at the empty can and remembered, aaaah...fuck that was my last can of brew, wtf was I thinking?

[Nightw0lf414]

I have to point out that she confessed to killing the men before her death. To me she is not a Feminist Icon, she is a woman who killed men for money and decided not to stop. If you think that is what Feminism is all about then you should see a Shrink. I am all for Feminism. Women should be empowered, but to look at someone who would take a life, when life is a precious thing, is about as stupid as stupid can get.

[iremythpurr]

@Nightw0lf414

watch?v=KIo8oBl__LE

[PoliticallyEndcorrec]

@iremythpurr y

[amet1980]

i would say serial killer.

even if in comparison with men serial killers, the element of plesure and enjoyment (and sexual plesure) lucks from her case(and most women murderers),

even if one of her victims was legitimate violence its far fetched to be digested that all seven were about to rape/murder her.

life in prison and permanent institutionalization.

[iremythpurr]

@FurballRZ

She killed scumbag men who were violent. They were johns, you know those bad people that pay to rape women in compromised situations?

She was cleaning up the streets and saving other women's lives.

[PoliticallyEndcorrec]

@iremythpurr lmao lets be serious. if a women uses her body as the problem solver thats her problem. you make every issue about women being taken advantage of. Unless your a slave being forced to sell pussy then suck it up and try harder life is not easy for anyone. but if your own free will you quickly resort to selling your ass instead of working hard and getting help like so many brave and smart women i have had the joy of speaking with. then your making your self a victim.

[iremythpurr]

@PoliticallyEndcorrec

blocked.

[laurelinintherain]

@iremythpurr I am Laurelin Rain and I approve of this blocking!

[laurelinintherain]

@laurelinintherain [yeah, I have a dumb sense of humour. Mea culpa]

[iremythpurr]

@laurelinintherain

One of the more openly misogynistic comments.

Goddamn people have no empathy and would rather identify with johns than the desperate women who turn to prostitution.

[laurelinintherain]

@iremythpurr When blogging, I have to say I've preferred it when they just go into the obvious misogyny. That way I can just delete/ block them without having to waste my time. Usually- as with this loser- they tread carefully carefully before they lose their cool and start calling you a bitch or whatevs. They sure do hate strong feminist women.

[d0llsnatch]

@iremythpurr don't you know there are no "desperate women" it's a choice...DUH!!!!! Glamorous and sexy choice. You just jealous cause Aileen was in control of her sexuality, cause that's what prostitution is all about.

[d0llsnatch]

@PoliticallyEndcorrec Another Mahrtard? Apparently young Dwayne has something to say cause you know...being a "woman that uses her pussy as a problem solver is just HER PROBLEM". DUH. No mitigating circumstances...no excuses...nothing! Boot straps! Pull yourself up by them...or is it pussy flaps?

[christinepeace]

There is a very good reason the victims past is not brought up in court. For example it would be akin to saying a woman deserved to be rapped because she had a history of a sex life. It doesn't matter if the woman is a virgin or a prostitute the past acts of a victim cannot and should not be a factor in determining the guilt or innocence’s of the person accused of rape. Therefore the past of the victims of Aileen shouldn't be brought up either.

Cheers Christine

[iremythpurr]

@christinepeace

Wow, that is probably one of the most stupid comments I've gotten on this video.

She went through trials for each murder you dumb fuck which is what usually happens.

As for dishonest bullshit about comparing it to a woman's sex life being brought up to justify her rape - That is probably one of the most sexist comments I've ever gotten. You really think a man's past history of RAPE is comparable to a woman having sex with a lot of people?

Go fuck yourself, Christine.

[AtheistPlusNitro]

@iremythpurr I was not commenting on Aileen’s number of trials.As for your reply to my comment it might be just a little over the top and leads me to believe you forgot to take your pills this morning.I was simply making a comment on the subject, so you disagree fine but what is with the name calling?Did I attack you personally, no.Now instead of having a discussion in which you might have change my mind you have made an enemy of me not a bright move on your part.Get fucked cunt!

Christine

[iremythpurr]

@AtheistPlusNitro

Oh my god, we're enemies!!! What are you gonna do Christine? Get your rag tag group of jobless30-somethings to create sock accounts and harass me?

I don't discuss shit with people who open their mouth without thinking, ie most of this community. Don't leave moronic comments and you won't be called a dumb fuck. Its pretty simple.

Um, yeah don't look both ways next time you cross a street. Cheers!

[d0llsnatch]

@AtheistPlusNitro "you have made an enemy of me not a bright move on your part.Get fucked cunt!" LMAO!! What is with all these old ladies and their epic butthurt? Felida, Div, Femwhore, sexild, etct. Maybe it's cause they didn't grow up with the internet that they never learned that their opinion doesn't really fucking matter and coming onto someones comment section and acting like a condescending ignorant ass isn't going to get em far.OH NOES...ENEMIES...SHE WAS IN DA ARMY watch yo self

[iremythpurr]

@d0llsnatch

LOOOL. Her butthurt about being called a dumb fuck gives her RAEG.

[d0llsnatch]

@christinepeace man...this sure is some epic butthurt. Not only did you decide that leaving a vile comment was enough but you decided to get into a circle jerk with the rest of your "free thinkers" and beat off to some Nuke hate. BITCHWHORECUNTMEEEYAAAAH. I guess you aren't used to people not licking your asshole? Go get naked with your duck. MAH OPINIONS MATTER! LET ME GET NAKED TO PROVE MY POINT! Have fun with the midlife crisis lady.

[iremythpurr]

@d0llsnatch

LOOOOOOL

I know, what a sad pathetic girl-woMAN she is.

[ChorusoftheLost]

What makes a cereal killer? Someone who smashes up all yer cheerios.

[vasarasx]

@ChorusoftheLost best comment lol

[DianatheDefender]

LOOOOOOOL. Every time you make a video the stupid morons make a ton of vids. You are very very popular and should start a fan club. Or maybe we could start one together since we get so many fan vids. ♥

[Spinobreaker]

watch?v=5acVqHJlxRY&feature=su­b

you should watch this, terrarising made.... well sort of a reply...

[iremythpurr]

@Spinobreaker

I'd rather not watch a video by him, he's a woman hater and a creep.

[NeroTheAtheist]

@iremythpurr Nar he just makes more sense. Just cause he makes a video on a woman serial killer doesn't make him a woman hater grimace

[iremythpurr]

@NeroTheAtheist

actually moron, my belief that he is a misogynist come from my interactions with him from months prior.

[NeroTheAtheist]

@iremythpurr I know you have had interactions with him in the past. But in you're mind you think anyone who speaks out against your crazy bitch thoughts is a pig or a misogynist, which isn't true. Get that hammer and sickle bug out your ass.

[iremythpurr]

@NeroTheAtheist

funny how you all seem to stick together in your overt misogyny but then defend each other when you're called out on it.

yeah, pig and misogynist caught and blocked.

[Spinobreaker]

@iremythpurr - not really, hes one of the nicest people i know of on youtube. If you dont want to see the real story for your "idol" who was a psycho NOT a hero, then you dont have to watch it. Ive done the research, ive looked into the details of the case, she was a cold hearted killer...

Its very simple. She is as much of an idol as hitler... And we all know what he did. And yes its the same, he claimed he was doing gods work, and he was defending his country. She was no different, she is evil

[iremythpurr]

@Spinobreaker

Oh you looked into it therefore my research into it amounts to nothing and I should agree with your assessment.

And yeah, he's one of the rudest most trite insincere misogynists I've seen on youtube.

Just fuck you.

[d0llsnatch]

@iremythpurr manswers , manswers everywhere. I'VE READ WIKIPEDIA...THEREFORE...I KNOW STUFF GUYS!!!!!

[GenericSteve764]

Even if we assume that all of her victims were indeed killed in self-defense, how do you figure that makes her a hero and feminist icon?

[iremythpurr]

@GenericSteve764

Well like I said in the video, most women don't fight back, so that makes her a hero to a lot of people. Most prostitutes in her situation would end up being the ones dead in a ditch, but she fought back, and ultimately lost.

Its a sad story when you think about it.

It just makes her special I guess.

[SniperWalrus]

A crazy bitch murders a bunch of men.

A crazy bitch tries to defend her.

I think someone needs to dig in your front yard, Nuclear.

[iremythpurr]

@SniperWalrus

my username is iremythpurr.

[SniperWalrus]

@iremythpurr That is correct. Your former name was NuclearNight I believe?Its not like I called you Thunderf00t or Coughlan666 or something...

[adrenacrumb]

So you've never seen to where she admits she killed them not in self defense right before she is executed then?

/watch?v=3yi2dbaQ3mM&feature=r­elated

[iremythpurr]

@adrenacrumb

So you've never seen the video right after that where she thinks the cameras are off?

watch?v=KIo8oBl__LE&feature=fe­edu

[adrenacrumb]

@iremythpurr She said so was SOME others.

[adrenacrumb]

@iremythpurr You don't use the word some if all of them are self defense.

[commonbitchavenger]

common bitches don't know about aileen wuornos.

[postleftist]

thumbs up.

its weird how so many reactionary fucks are giving you shit about this video. i was actually considering doing a video presenting ted kaczynski in a positive light. he was a great revolutionary at heart.

i had never heard of wuronos before seeing this, but she seems to be a anti-authoritarian revolutionary. "isolated" acts of "violence" are much more effective than obsolete "collective" actions.

[sheri226]

Although she did admit the Visine bottle with rubbing alcohol was not true, I do believe Mallory raped her.. he had a history of rape. In my opinion, the others were more than likely innocent. A hero or icon? Not by any stretch of the imagination.

[LeftPolitiko]

lol is this a fucking joke? a fucking SERIAL KILLER is a "feminist icon?" idk how you're going to top yourself on this one.

[iremythpurr]

@LeftPolitiko

Sorry mate, hadn't realized you'd not been blocked. Its been rectified.

Also, I think I make a pretty strong case that she's not a serial killer.

[CapitalismIsLiberty]

@iremythpurr lol great. now i've been deprived of your stream-of-consciousness rants and videos about your admiration for psychopaths.

isn't it great that you automatically assume that ALL of the men she murdered were rapists/murderers without any evidence? kind of like blame the victim...

you're a joke, your videos suck, and you really don't have any political insights. it's a shame that you are associated with Marxism on this site. goodbye.

[iremythpurr]

@CapitalismIsLiberty

I'm sorry that you are such a bitter horrible person.

No one makes you watch my videos, you consistently come here and watch them for whatever purpose you do.

Its a shame you're associated with Marxism on this site, seeing as you're a misogynist sociopathic toolbag.

[whydid666]

Serial Killer - someone who murders more than three victims one at a time in a relatively short interval

Aileen- killed 6 people over a period of 1 year

Therefor Aileen is a Serial Killer. Please make your "strong case" against the Oxford Dictionary, because I do not think they are willing to move the minimum requirement to 7.

[iremythpurr]

@whydid666

derp - the much more comprehensive definition is in mah video that you clearly are too good to listen to.

[DimestorePsychology]

You just like her cause she is a woman that killed men.

[iremythpurr]

@DimestorePsychology

kill men now, ask me how.

[DesertLaser]

@iremythpurr

How? ;)

(Not sure why I was compelled to ask that... :) )

[MensRifleAssociation]

@vadimcream, "During an interview with filmmaker Nick Broomfield, when she thought the cameras were off, she told him that it was, in fact, self-defense, but she could not stand being on death row—where she had been for 12 years at that point—and wanted to die." (wiki)

[vadimcream]

@MensRifleAssociation

PS. If you find her last statement at all compelling, take a look at the history of her claims. Take a look at her prior offenses. Look at the murders themselves, how she forced each man to strip before killing them, loaded many of them with far more lead than needed to kill them, carried a bottle of windex with her at all times in case she needed it for a "clean up".

[mikesomething]

come on lady, i think that women would do well from having more, better role models, rather than beyonce, or other idiots like her ....

but come ON

wuornos ?

[mlkmanswfestits]

@vadimcream supposedly she did this because she didnt want to get a life sentence in jail...off camera and off record she maintained that it was self defense...anyway even if she is crazy its because of a lifetime of abuse

[Zaimren]

@mlkmanswfestits There are several male serial killers who suffered a lifetime of abuse. You can't be a serial killer without being crazy. It's like a prerequisite. But unlike most male serial killers, I don't believe she did it for sexual satisfaction and she never took trophies as far as I know. I think she suffered from paranoia and it just got worse. Her very last interview with this film maker, she was saying things that lead me to believe she suffering some major paranoia.

[ADDMeetsInsomnia]

I actually watched the movie, and watched a few interviews of Aileen. I don't believe some of the aspects of her murders were justified, as some of the men were not violent and she was angry towards. But I do understand that she didn't get a fair trial, nor did she deserve the death penalty. I almost cried for her when I saw the sentencing trial of her getting the death penalty. I don't believe she deserved the death penalty, at all. good video.

[Cerebrocaust]

This is the best video of yours I've seen in a long time. Aileen Wuornos had a hard life, some of her killings were justified, and it's sad that society has labeled her a monster and put her to death. I'm not sure it's such a good idea to consider her an icon, though. It's hard to be sure, but she did admit to killing johns who hadn't attacked her and she went back and forth in later years from righteous indignation to a resigned sort of guilt. I'm not so sure everyone she killed deserved it.

[onlockinggeisha]

Also,one thing I noticed. She is almost always saved by a male sometimes they want to be all "Feminist" and have her empower herself and save herself, but never have I seen the damsel saved by another female.If the damsel in distress reflects women's lives in patriarchy and situations that arise with in it then they wouldn't want to show true liberation. Females are feed false solution to patriarchy since birth. "Men will save us!" The fun fem motto it seems.

[DianatheDefender]

@onlockinggeisha brilliant comment

[laurelinintherain]

@onlockinggeisha I'm saving this comment for posterity. Excellent.

[onlockinggeisha]

@laurelinintherain Thank you! The whole damsel in distress has a lot of angles to it. I think this cliche, insignificant theme pushed to girls is significant. Even today in teen novels and it's.......everywhere still.

[onlockinggeisha]

Her testimony sounds like a lot of porn. Until the end when she fought back. I see this "woman in danger/damsel in distress" romanticized and sexualixed all my life. It's a running theme. Female is in the perilous grasp of a male only to be *saved* by another male.*The good one.* In reality no one saves her, but I think the idea was to keep women from blaming men and keep on the search for the good one. There's a reason it's a reacquiring theme.

[laurelinintherain]

@onlockinggeisha You have just won the internet. Brilliant comments, thank you!

[Zaimren]

I think the first time she killed it may have indeed been self defense. But Wuornos was mentally unstable, and untreated it got progressively worse. Perhaps the first killing showed her that she did have some control over at least part of her life. I don't know exactly why she killed again, but I do not believe all the deaths were the result of self defense. I view her as someone to pity but not as any type of a hero.

[vasarasx]

@Zaimren I agree with your comment.

[panthera50]

if these victims really were raping assholes, I couln't care less.

Then she saved 7 women.

[iremythpurr]

@vadimcream

I love the assumptions that I'm not aware of this bs.

What people do in the desperate last moments of their lives to try and rectify anything wrong they may have done in the eyes of da lord is of little interest to me.

[vadimcream]

@iremythpurr

"What people do in the desperate last moments of their lives to try and rectify anything wrong they may have done in the eyes of da lord is of little interest to me."

Yup. That's pretty obvious. The only thing that's of interest of you here are the cherry picked aspects of this story that allow you to present Wuornos as a feminist martyr.

[iremythpurr]

@vadimcream

:(

[freshasflowers]

It's justifiable murder, period.

[iremythpurr]

@vadimcream

Oh, I really don't care what your opinion about anything is.

[Brooklyn83]

The movie didn't help either.

[Brooklyn83]

it's unbelievable when people very often try to make the argument that other serial killers had difficult lives too and that Wuornos was no different. They apparently see no difference between killing people who just happen to be around, like children and people in their homes, to achieve orgasm, and killing abusive pieces of shit. I think that much of the hate towards her is because too many people find it easier to identify with johns and see Wuornos as a whore who betrayed their trust.

[regresseur]

@Brooklyn83

"They apparently see no difference between killing people who just happen to be around"

That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the very definition of serial killer. Serial killers target certain people for certain reasons... some guy who just goes on a rampage or whatever would be a different story.

[Brooklyn83]

@regresseur Sure they target people. They'll target women who they think are hot, or offend their virgin whore complex, or because they're prostitutes, or they'll target children because they're not with their parents, or young guys because they're in a gay bar. In other words, people who happen to be around.

[Flapjackbatter]

From one of Nick Broomfields documentaries of her you altso get the feeling she did not get a fair trail. I think this was the 2003 film.

[MensRifleAssociation]

i'd have killed that guy

[HeavyTrafficAhead]

Oh boy

[laurelinintherain]

What harrowing testimony.

[booboonation]

the other famous sociopath woman ...look her up on wiki, read about her life, I urge everyone.

[d0llsnatch]

@booboonation what?

[booboonation]

@d0llsnatch The OTHER famous woman killer she was a sociopath, don't know her name off the top of my head, but you can look her up, and her life is beyond tragic, it's actually worse than this. Women killers are NOT common.

[Maxdwolf]

@booboonation There's been more than two. You'll have to be more specific.

[TookiGuy]

How the fuck can killing some... thing like that be a fucking crime?

God, this piece of shit species.

[DimestorePsychology]

It's people like this that make me wish there was a heaven