The 2 primary problems with the rotary are the increased use of fuel and the wiper wear issue, in that order, due to the very nature of the rotary engine, pressure on the wipers increase with RPMs, As was pointed out, proper care and a Wankel engine is as good as any other.
@ventureelect If we take out "Turbos and Performance" and talk piston vs Rotary then yes a piston i would say is more forgiving in regards to servicing than say a Rotary, however i argue that any car should be well maintained anyway. I like the engine, its a simple design and only 3 moving parts compared to all the moving parts the piston engine has. I dont think todays Rotaries are "THAT much harder" on gas, it was over 40 years ago now that last oil crisis occured.
I just got me a v6 Station Wagon and my FD RX7 which is stock BTW would not use much more gas than that.. I know that an RX8 uses about 10ltr per 100kms. We need to remember all RX's are sports cars and they needed to be compared to other sports cars not a Toyota Corolla L or anything like that.
An hey Im not a all out Honda fan but they also make alot of power for there size and run good for a long time, not tryin to start shit just seen some of youns post about Hondas being "1/2 assed cars" and things like that. There somewhat compareable 2 a Mazdas Rotary in my opinion not in how they work but how they make good N/A power out of a small engine. Mazdas Rotary and Hondas VTEC engines are the only good N/A JDM engines I can think of off the top of my head and they both deserve respect
Does any1 know ware I could learn more about Rotary engines, like normal maintenance and up keep for a long running Rotary? Maybe a fourm someware?. I love regular piston engines but I've always been amazed by the Rotarys, there pretty cool desighns and they make A LOT of power esp for there size and seem relitivly simple
My Rx7 just now needs a rebuild (only a water jacket but im gonna replace the whole thing) and its 27 years old, so obviously aji8 doesn't know what he is doing
@andreetje66 looks like 3 stoke, the rotor is at intake, then compresion/power, the exhast, but then the other two sides are doing the other strokes too, O.o i have pondered this question long and hard
The reason why 99% of cars are pistons was due to the oil crisis of the 70's Mass produced rotaries would of been the cheaper option over a piston engine and less moving parts but because they do tend to use more fuel that crisis pretty much killed the rotary engine. Was nothing to do with it blowing. I see RB26DETT and 4g63 Evo blow up just as much DUE TO INCORRECT Tuning or crap parts or just trying to push the limits.
@ventureelect Sorry on last thing was my comment was in regards to something that happened 40 years ago, most of us know that a modern engine normally has better fuel/power than those engines from 40 years ago.
@DrNorty piston ring vs apex seal ... apex seals wear at about a 10:1 rate compared to piston rings given the engine is well maintained and not thrashed upon... ive owned 3 2nd gen rx7 and i must say they are a nightmare . unreliable , torque-less , gas guzzler ... i could go on for days . ive seen my friend need new apex seals twice to three times a year on his stock 86 non turbo ... sad for him
Well i have had 4 rx7 and the last one was a 88 turbo2 with 162k with T4 turbo,3in downpipe,hks blowoff running 14psi on the stock motor..13b is a great motor but is not a bootleg b16 or sr20det...you cant just throw autozone parts on it and think its going to last...and too many ppl do that and then say 13b is shit motor....if you want to halfass a car get a honda!!!!
It gets driven aprox 25km per week. Also my 10 year old rotary engine lasted a further 8 years of full time drag racing before I rebuilt it. The rotary csan be more reliable than a piston engine if it is looked after. The rotary is NOT JUNK!!!!
Obviously you don't know much about rotary engine's aji8!
The rotary engine if maintained properly is as reliable as any piston engine.
The reason why the piston engine is preferred is because it emits less carbon into the atmosphere and is also more fuel efficient than a rotary engine.
no the true reason is 50% of people that buy cars dont know how to properly maintain a vehicle like regularly checking fluids and lubricants.. the other reason is not everybody wants or needs a sports compact.. lastly no compression isnt the end of the world.. put new seals in no different to doing a set of rings in a piston motor..
Obviously aji8 is one of those people that don't maintain their car. I bet his 4cylinder is on the verge of blowing. Some people just don't understand that Rotaries, when well maintained, are as good, if not better then piston engines. "If it's something your not used to, you end up hating it before you get to try and get used to it" I think that's whats going on in their minds.
Thats like saying every piston engine will need a rebuild every X amount of miles. Some engines last a very long time, others don't. Depends how well you maintain them and how you drive them. Do you have any solid evidence that a rotary engine needs to be rebuilt "often"? And I'm not talking about your friends FD that he brings to the track every weekend. Show me a built-in design flaw that defies good maintenance and requires a set chronological pattern of rebuilds. Please and thank you.
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Tell that to the guy that I sold my 13B to. The car I bought which has about 130k on it was on its second rotary and his had a little over 100K and would not run as the engine didn't have any compression any more. The design flaw is the rotary period. It really is not good for anything.
There are RX8's with over 150,000 miles on them still on an original engine. A professor of mine had an RX7 for 20 years before she sold it, only having to replace minor parts; she never had to crack open the block. The only ignorant comment on this page that I see is yours. If you don't like rotary engines, fine. But don't leave comments on several videos saying rotary engines are junk trying to instigate an argument. Its not very mature.
That is not the same as a god damn wankel, You are not creating the power source. You would need a compressor. Which would need a power source. Your "Engine" is just a mere air powered motor.
I love and appreciate this digital step by step methodical assembly of the Wankel rotary engine. You can see every part that goes into the successful operation of the engine, and the relationship between all the parts and how they all work together.
The 2 primary problems with the rotary are the increased use of fuel and the wiper wear issue, in that order, due to the very nature of the rotary engine, pressure on the wipers increase with RPMs, As was pointed out, proper care and a Wankel engine is as good as any other.
Arabhacks 7 months ago
@ventureelect If we take out "Turbos and Performance" and talk piston vs Rotary then yes a piston i would say is more forgiving in regards to servicing than say a Rotary, however i argue that any car should be well maintained anyway. I like the engine, its a simple design and only 3 moving parts compared to all the moving parts the piston engine has. I dont think todays Rotaries are "THAT much harder" on gas, it was over 40 years ago now that last oil crisis occured.
DrNorty 10 months ago
I just got me a v6 Station Wagon and my FD RX7 which is stock BTW would not use much more gas than that.. I know that an RX8 uses about 10ltr per 100kms. We need to remember all RX's are sports cars and they needed to be compared to other sports cars not a Toyota Corolla L or anything like that.
DrNorty 10 months ago
An hey Im not a all out Honda fan but they also make alot of power for there size and run good for a long time, not tryin to start shit just seen some of youns post about Hondas being "1/2 assed cars" and things like that. There somewhat compareable 2 a Mazdas Rotary in my opinion not in how they work but how they make good N/A power out of a small engine. Mazdas Rotary and Hondas VTEC engines are the only good N/A JDM engines I can think of off the top of my head and they both deserve respect
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
Does any1 know ware I could learn more about Rotary engines, like normal maintenance and up keep for a long running Rotary? Maybe a fourm someware?. I love regular piston engines but I've always been amazed by the Rotarys, there pretty cool desighns and they make A LOT of power esp for there size and seem relitivly simple
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
Who consumed more fuel? rotary engine or pistons.
supercharger92 1 year ago
My Rx7 just now needs a rebuild (only a water jacket but im gonna replace the whole thing) and its 27 years old, so obviously aji8 doesn't know what he is doing
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Wankellover 1 year ago
is this one or two stroke ??....
andreetje66 1 year ago
4 strokes
coolkid134134 1 year ago
@andreetje66 looks like 3 stoke, the rotor is at intake, then compresion/power, the exhast, but then the other two sides are doing the other strokes too, O.o i have pondered this question long and hard
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bnz500 2 years ago
The reason why 99% of cars are pistons was due to the oil crisis of the 70's Mass produced rotaries would of been the cheaper option over a piston engine and less moving parts but because they do tend to use more fuel that crisis pretty much killed the rotary engine. Was nothing to do with it blowing. I see RB26DETT and 4g63 Evo blow up just as much DUE TO INCORRECT Tuning or crap parts or just trying to push the limits.
DrNorty 2 years ago 15
@DrNorty i agree, its all about how you treat it and maintain it =]
NASTYTHEBOY 1 year ago
@DrNorty well said
juanmincia 1 year ago
@DrNorty What do you think of the rotary. Is it that much harder on gas.
ventureelect 10 months ago
@ventureelect Sorry on last thing was my comment was in regards to something that happened 40 years ago, most of us know that a modern engine normally has better fuel/power than those engines from 40 years ago.
DrNorty 10 months ago
@DrNorty piston ring vs apex seal ... apex seals wear at about a 10:1 rate compared to piston rings given the engine is well maintained and not thrashed upon... ive owned 3 2nd gen rx7 and i must say they are a nightmare . unreliable , torque-less , gas guzzler ... i could go on for days . ive seen my friend need new apex seals twice to three times a year on his stock 86 non turbo ... sad for him
MuhammadDerkaDerka 8 months ago
Well i have had 4 rx7 and the last one was a 88 turbo2 with 162k with T4 turbo,3in downpipe,hks blowoff running 14psi on the stock motor..13b is a great motor but is not a bootleg b16 or sr20det...you cant just throw autozone parts on it and think its going to last...and too many ppl do that and then say 13b is shit motor....if you want to halfass a car get a honda!!!!
kevin122780 2 years ago
hahahahahaha!! true true!!
thejakelhawk 2 years ago
whoa man i drive a honda with 352,000 on her she runns like a beast, but 100% correct built well last long time and god you have to love rotarys
dirty1douglas 2 years ago 2
well, i don't want a car that runs like a beast, i want a car that runs like a car...
bigtank2185 2 years ago
i agree if u wanna be a cheap ass by a honda if u want true race and engine response buy an rx7
oOillillOo 2 years ago 4
damn i love that comment.
flodeezul 2 years ago
This is a much needed video since the rotary needs to be rebuilt often.
aji8 2 years ago
My rotary engine is 40 years old and never been rebuilt. It still goes very well.
And that animation does NOT truly depict the assembly sequence.
utubenz 2 years ago
You must never run it then. Is it in a car? That would be a very old model.
aji8 2 years ago
I drive it every Sunday, yes its never been out of my car. Its a 1969 Mazda Coupe.
utubenz 2 years ago
Drive it for what? 2 miles. You will need a rebuild soon.
aji8 2 years ago
depends on how u drive man....
if u thrash it of course a rebuilt is in order...
203132 2 years ago
I beat the hell out of my piston engines and they don't need to be rebuilt. Like I said, the rotary is junk.
aji8 2 years ago
no doubt the rotary has a short lifespan, doesn't mean it's junk.
i find rotary engines to be much more smoother
203132 2 years ago
That is one thing I will agree with. My 13B was a very smooth engine.
aji8 2 years ago
It gets driven aprox 25km per week. Also my 10 year old rotary engine lasted a further 8 years of full time drag racing before I rebuilt it. The rotary csan be more reliable than a piston engine if it is looked after. The rotary is NOT JUNK!!!!
utubenz 2 years ago 4
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Uh yes it is. That is why they use piston engines in 99.9% of the cars.
Sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance.
aji8 2 years ago
Obviously you don't know much about rotary engine's aji8!
The rotary engine if maintained properly is as reliable as any piston engine.
The reason why the piston engine is preferred is because it emits less carbon into the atmosphere and is also more fuel efficient than a rotary engine.
utubenz 2 years ago 3
Not to mention Patent issues also.
utubenz 2 years ago
no the true reason is 50% of people that buy cars dont know how to properly maintain a vehicle like regularly checking fluids and lubricants.. the other reason is not everybody wants or needs a sports compact.. lastly no compression isnt the end of the world.. put new seals in no different to doing a set of rings in a piston motor..
d1nzspectator 2 years ago
Obviously aji8 is one of those people that don't maintain their car. I bet his 4cylinder is on the verge of blowing. Some people just don't understand that Rotaries, when well maintained, are as good, if not better then piston engines. "If it's something your not used to, you end up hating it before you get to try and get used to it" I think that's whats going on in their minds.
LonewolfSaichi 2 years ago 12
i think peeps just dont understand rotaries
flodeezul 2 years ago
@aji8
dude, wtf is wrong with you?
my opinion: a rotary probably whooped your ass on a race
get a life...
jonatassp 7 months ago
Thats like saying every piston engine will need a rebuild every X amount of miles. Some engines last a very long time, others don't. Depends how well you maintain them and how you drive them. Do you have any solid evidence that a rotary engine needs to be rebuilt "often"? And I'm not talking about your friends FD that he brings to the track every weekend. Show me a built-in design flaw that defies good maintenance and requires a set chronological pattern of rebuilds. Please and thank you.
wasp010 2 years ago
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Tell that to the guy that I sold my 13B to. The car I bought which has about 130k on it was on its second rotary and his had a little over 100K and would not run as the engine didn't have any compression any more. The design flaw is the rotary period. It really is not good for anything.
aji8 2 years ago
what engines have you designed and built...??? im keen to know as it sounds like you know everything....
skidtoy 2 years ago 3
but what have u done that say u know anything about an engine let alone a spark plug
oOillillOo 2 years ago
There are RX8's with over 150,000 miles on them still on an original engine. A professor of mine had an RX7 for 20 years before she sold it, only having to replace minor parts; she never had to crack open the block. The only ignorant comment on this page that I see is yours. If you don't like rotary engines, fine. But don't leave comments on several videos saying rotary engines are junk trying to instigate an argument. Its not very mature.
wasp010 2 years ago
the apex seals are harder then the housing, and wear the shit out of it....
ive seen a rotary with 200 k on it...
but ive seen piston engines with over a million on them....
mageac 2 years ago
@wasp010
150k miles is not impressive these days.
MoronAntidote 1 year ago
@MoronAntidote For a sports car it is actually
wasp010 1 year ago
My patented rotary piston engine has less the tem moving parts and very powerful too.
TommeyLeeReed 3 years ago 2
That is not the same as a god damn wankel, You are not creating the power source. You would need a compressor. Which would need a power source. Your "Engine" is just a mere air powered motor.
airportlakesestates 3 years ago
Mr. Air power,
My patented rotary piston engine is a real engine with a combution chamber and compressor #1,860,251
Your talking about my air version, that runs on air.
TommeyLeeReed 3 years ago
Really? You actually have a working version currently?
Morpherex 3 years ago
I love and appreciate this digital step by step methodical assembly of the Wankel rotary engine. You can see every part that goes into the successful operation of the engine, and the relationship between all the parts and how they all work together.
SilverWolfM200LDH 3 years ago 3
nice video. 5 stars
15g3k 3 years ago 2
thanks a lot for wunderbahre erzahlung
ocal958 4 years ago
thank you great vid
ottocars 4 years ago 2
thats a renesis rotary, because the exhaust ports are in the end and intermediate plates
Maoriboy6969 4 years ago 3
great video man!
Lypur 4 years ago 2
awsome...
wombatj 4 years ago 2