1. I think what he is saying is much more philosophical than people realize. It is true that people should provide evidence for their claim if they are going to act on it, however in the situation of 9/11, who are any of us to say that there wouldn't have been any other bombings had the gov not taken action, a question I ask not saying that "we commoners are nobody to say" rather it is a question that I ask suggesting that perhaps the gov did have such info and did have to act on it.
2. The point is, no, it is not right to bomb anyone unless there is a real reason, but to say that the U.S. just... went in any direction and attacked any old country in sight is crap. The gov went to the countries it did for real reasons, provided or not. And look, in the end, look where he was found. Not in Germany, not in China, no, in the exact country we said he was in. Hm...Looks like there was a reason to me.
you're arguing a false dichotomy. why is it only either an "inside job"(Bush) or al-qaeda? i haven't heard chomsky say it was definitely anyone specific.
he has been chastised for his lousy statements on 911 earlier. Now he's fence straddling. He's a self serving piece of shit just like the rest of the media. If he didn't sing from the Rothschild hymn book he wouldn't be on tv so much. period. Rothschilds own ALL of the media. They have lieutenants that are front owners only, they also own ap upi and reuters. google it. Chomsky is a disgrace. Die already old bastard.
@sssssjjjj1 I disagree that he was fence straddling. I think the statement was a test of the truth movement: would we be mature enough to characterize his statement fairly, reporting that he said that AT THE TIME OF THE AFGHANISTAN ATTACKS the US had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty? Or would we go around saying "Chomsky says al Qaeda was innocent!" We flunked the test.
For my take on it, see my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
The video title is incredibly misleading. At the time of the war, there was hardly any evidence that Osama did 9/11 and that's exactly what Chomsky said.
He never said that there's still no evidence because by now all the reports indicate it and Osama admitted it himself.
@AndroidPolitician Do you believe that hijackers with boxcutters outwitted the USA's $500-billion-a-year military defenses even though al Qaeda's "Project Bojinka" plan to crash hijacked airliners into buildings had been known to US authoriities since 1995?
Yeah, how the fuck could of a disgruntled FedEx worker hijacked a plane in the 90s, doesn't he know we have the most advanced military and security system on earth?
@AndroidPolitician When the WTC was known to be a target of al Qaeda, when "the system was blinking red" and there were warnings from 13 foreign countries of upcoming attacks, when a westbound airliner turned S directly toward the WTC, why was it permitted to fly almost 200 miles off course without being intercepted and ordered to land. After two planes had been flown into buildings, why was a third permitted to fly 400 miles and crash into the HQ of the most powerful military in the world?
It was "permitted" because the Pentagon and NORAD etc. don't work like a Jason Bourne movie (or any movie for that matter). It takes hours before data can be analyzed and a decision based on the data can be made.
The 9/11 attacks essentially happened in minutes.
Now whether or not the government should be punished for negligence is a different story, but you have to stop acting like an idiot who thinks the gov. is tracking planes in real time on an 1080i screen.
@AndroidPolitician I too thought the attacks happened in minutes--that's the only thing that makes sense. Not until 2004 did I find that there was no effective air defense for 100 minutes. Planes launched from Otis and Langley flew out to sea instead of protecting the obvious targets. NORAD had drilled on suicide pilots flying into the WTC, and a 05/03/94 GAO report showed that intercepting unidentified aircraft was a daily task for NORAD from 1990 to 1994.
That might be because NORAD wasn't in charge of commercial airliners until after 9/11 (the planes were identified), and even if it saw the planes coming, it would take an hour to analyze and probably a few days before the US government could respond.
@AndroidPolitician From 1991 to 1994 NORAD intercepted a plane a day when they were unidentified, off course, or in distress. Most of these had no transponder signals. It was a routine task. On 9/11, NORAD did not intercept any of the aircraft in 100 minutes. What's to analyze? FAA informed them of hijacked airliners, and the NORAD fighters flew out to sea. "Days to respond"? That's balmy!
Yeah, "when they were unidentified" meaning an unknown plane is coming into the US. The 9/11 planes were identified and had no means of communication to inform the government of what was happening.
the FAA only knew about the plot after the first plane hit the towers (obviously) and they thought the second plane was going in for an emergency landing. Lets say what you say is true and the FAA told NORAD after the first plane hit.
@AndroidPolitician You're just making stuff up--as I did, thinking the air war was over in 15 minutes. It wasn't. FAA knew flight 11was in trouble the minute it stopped responding to radio and refused an order to climb to 35,000 feet. That's at 8:13, 33 minutes before it hit the WTC. Before 9/11 FAA issued 52 different warnings about al Qaeda. FAA did tell NORAD about flight 11. You need to investigate the facts before trying to tell us what happened.
Nope, what I said about the FAA is completely true, and came from declassified documents
- is(.)gd/LXU7Co
Now your mixing up facts, the FAA got 52 warnings, not sent them. And they weren't aware of the actual plot happening, they were aware of the warmings.
It's interesting that now you abandon your NORAD statements, since it's only job is to find unidentified planes and the 9/11 flights were identified.
@AndroidPolitician Thank you for setting me straight about the 52 FAA warnings about al Qaeda. I had thought they were FAA-generated. No, they were received and ignored by FAA security.
NORAD was charged among other things with assisting aircraft in distress. You think a plane hijacked by suicide hijackers was not distressed? You are inventing arguments for complacency. What would lead someone to do would do such a thing?
@AndroidPolitician At 8:23 the ATCs heard a heavily accented voice from flight 11 say "We have some planes, just stay quiet and you'll be okay." You obviously have not studied this, and yet you try to pass yourself off as an expert. So in your imagination, NORAD was not charged with responding to hijackings as long as the hijacked planes were identified? You are nuts. NORAD had done drills on the scenario of suicide pilots flying into the WTC.
lol I'm no expert, I just look through the facts.
Are you telling me that somehow "We have some planes, just stay quiet and you'll be okay" means our planes are hijacked? At what time did it even happen?
@AndroidPolitician Yes, when the plane refuses to respond to radio contact, ignores ATC directives, turns south on a west-bound flight, and a heavily-accented voice threatens the passengers--yes, suspicions of a hijacking are more than justified. FAA policy was that when there was any doubt, the case was to be considered an emergency--meaning NORAD would be called in.
I don't think so. There has never been a direct air intervention for a hijacking, ever. Prior to 9/11, hijackers would simply fly to some location and get arrested there.
Assuming NORAD would take responsibility (which is like asking the EPA to take responsibility for auditing economic transactions) there's nothing they could of done.
@AndroidPolitician You make up your facts. If NORAD had no responsibility, why did they repeatedly do war games drills on hijackings, including suicide hijackings? Why do you repeatedly invent lies to try to deflect legitimate concerns?
They had responsibility over UNIDENTIFIED aircraft. So like if an unidentified war plane did a kamikaze attack they would be in charge, not commercial planes (which are easily identified).
After 9/11, NORAD was publicly announced to look after all aircraft, not just unidentified ones.
All that aside, there has never been a direct intervention, like I mentioned.
@AndroidPolitician If NORAD was not responisible to escort hijacked commercial aircraft, why did they repeatedly do war game drills on hijackings, inclusinf suicide hijackings? Why do you repeatedly invent lies to try to deflect legitimate concerns?
I don't know if you've ever heard or read about black box recordings of crashed planes, but unless their specific the ATCs don't care. In a crashed (if I recall correctly) Korea flight, the guy said something along the lines of "We're running out of fuel" which doesn't mean anything because Planes always run out of fuel and the ATCs didn't bother to respond.
But lets say they did, are the ATCs supposed to call NORAD? Which doesn't even do commercial planes?
Chomsky takes the position that blaming the government takes the blame away from those who really caused the attacks: The Governement. They didn't orchestrate the attack, they didn't have to. If another country was treating us like the US has been treating the middle east, you'd sign up to be a suicide bomber too.
You realize in another interview he said quite clearly that 911 was not done by the US government but by al qadea and by the way I hate the US but this shit is not only retarted but I also know now I will get jumped on by all the NWO bullshiters saying I am the anti christ or a mason or even part of the Jewish cabal or something like that. I just love you americans while you fight over fake bullshit the rest of the world wizzes you by have fun assholes with you idiocy
idiots, he never says that america or israel did it. He simply said that it was ILLOGICAL to attack Afghanistan as the bombers came from Germany or the united arab emirates.
Prior to the invasion of Afghanistan we had already identified several of the hi-jackers as known members of Al Qaeda and that was all over the international news. The Taliban had the evidence they needed....as if evidence and due process was something that the Taliban ever cared about. LOL
9/11 was a massive psy-op. It worked magnificently on the masses, drove Americans to change their way of life to be safe from a threat that ranks lower than peanut allergies. Thousands of our soldiers have died by the hands of muslims who defend their land while our land has been hijacked by bankster/criminals and ignorant propaganda loving morons.
It's really sad to see how long it has taken this man to admit the OBVIOUS in your face fact that ALciada trained at military bases and were let in on flagged passports & visas. Chomsky finally has his nuts back. My respect for this man just went way up.
As long as he is not still claiming this event didn't matter.
wow the terrorists didnt do it, oh thanks noam, for catching up man. perhaps in another five years you'll figure out that jet fuel can't melt steel and concrete and let us all know in a holographic presentation ffs. science rules.
You should change the title to ''Not Enough Evidence 9.11 Plan Concocted In Afghanistan to Justify Invasion'', instead of having this current misleading title designed to get more viewers.
For the record; Chomsky is not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist (i.e. a nutjob). He has stated that bin Laden and Al Qaeda plotted 9/11 and he has stated that the Bush Administration was not in on it.
For the record; The official 9/11 story is a conspiracy theory. Check the definition. :)
So Chomsky and apparently yourself believe that al-qaeda was responsible for 9/11 based on No Evidence that al-qaeda was responsible for 9/11. How exactly does that work? and who again is the nutjob? :P
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"Conspiracy theorist" is a term that we use for people who wear aluminum foil hats & spout discredited nonsense; that would apparently be you. But yes, it was plotted by your pal Osama, who has admitted to the crime/conspiracy. Apparently that story is not sexy enough for you; but no evidence? All of the hijackers were affiliated with.. al-Qaeda.
At any rate, I merely said that you should not misrepresent Chomsky's position; you even just admitted in your reply that he doesn't agree with you.
Again check the definition, because you are only making fun of yourself.
You said "Osama, who has admitted to the crime/conspiracy."
Unbelievable!! So Your evidence is a spliced up mistranslated fake video in which the world's top bin laden expert "Bruce Lawrence" and the top bin laden experts in the Department of Homeland Security agree IS A FAKE! So who is spouting off discredited nonsense? Apparently You!
Check the definition of Risperidone. Might help you. You evaded the hijackers point, of course. There is film of Osama with two hijackers. Fake, I'm sure. Everyone lied about 9/11; media, experts, Chomsky. But not you, of course, the one misrepresenting Chomsky's position.
Big fan of DHS? Really? So I suppose you would believe them if they endorsed the "official story"? Great; do some research.
Your head must be pretty deep in the sand for you to underestimate this "Islamic terror" phenomenon.
Where is the evidence that Al Queda committed these acts? Any written documentation? Fingerprint analysis, DNA analysis, security camera footage of the crime in progress, or any forensic investigation for that matter?
Something to suggest Bin Laden? Since, of course, the alleged hijackers are all dead.
@katey1dog In your post I see the evidence of lack of initiative on the part of the lazy minded conspiracy theorist camp.
They were all recruited by al-Qaeda, personally met with Osama bin Laden (who declared war on America and has been killing Americans since long before Bush ever entered office) and, as you point out, they are all dead... which magically occured when they flew the planes into the buildings. Case closed? Or are the facts unconvincing unless UFO's are involved?
@katey1dog The 1998 declaration of war by Bin Laden, his fatwa on America, is a pretty common knowledge, well-reported event. Ignorance is not a virtue; when you know so little about an issue it is probably best to do more research and less finger pointing. The text of the declaration can be found on news sources like PBS.Your comment about al-Qaeda being a non-sovereign entity is a foolish red herring. Osama considers himself at war with the US; his having no legal right to be is irrelevant.
@AtheistSupremacist The 1998 declaration of war by Bin Laden, his fatwa on America, is a pretty common knowledge, well-reported event.
Compared to what? Did PBS also state that Bin Laden was involved with the CIA and the Pakistani ISI? Because, you can find that too on PBS. So the premise of a "Declaration of War" is suspicious and possibly spurious.
Did PBS also state that he actively engaged the Soviets while building the roads that led US arms to the Muj? All while being treated for wounds by US operatives?
Does PBS also state how Bin Laden managed to be treated in Pakistani hospitals, in the 90s?
@katey1dog Ho Chi Minh also cooperated with the CIA's forerunner. I suppose the Vietnam War was also a hoax.
Bin Laden was angered by American foreign policy and turned on it, bombing and killing many Americans before Bush ever stepped into office. Pretty simple to understand; no UFO's needed.
Red herring? It was a clear comparison. A red herring would be a statement such as "Can Bin Laden legally declare war if he doesn't have a sovereign state?" Bin Laden cares about te law? Myopia.
Or are the facts unconvincing unless UFO's are involved?
The facts being only circumstantial. No evidence, as yet officially, has been attained by the Government to preclude beyond reasonable doubt that Bin Laden or Al Qaeda are at all responsible for these actions.
Unless you happen to speak Farci or have any idea as to the current status of one Osama bin Laden, then he remains at large and still not charged with the events of 9/11.
@katey1dog Three of the hijackers met Bin Laden in Afghanistan, in Karachi, according to the LA Times. I believe you mean Farsi, not Farci, though it seems unlikely that Bin Laden is in Iran if that is what you are suggesting; al-Qaeda and the Shi'ite are not friends, which you might know if you knew anything about these issues.
I suppose Hitler is innocent since he was never charged? As I stated, Bin Laden has admitted to the crimes.
Strange how the Federal Government new of the names of these men, their nationalities, alleged ties to "terror" groups, Bin Laden himself, flight training, traveling habits, and addresses.
@bofors7715 So the government staged 9/11 because someone on the internet named "bofors" is attempting to pass himself off as an authority on physics. I suppose that trumps the experts and comissions who have said that the "official story" is perfectly satisfactory as an explanation. Chomsky has said the same, despite the misrepresentations of the person who uploaded this video.
@Steeper33 Lol mis-translated? I can understand Arabic fine and it's not mistranslated so you're already proven to be a liar there, and there's Al Jazeeras high quality interview with Osama where he admits it, where its evident it's him in the footage without doubt.
@TheParadigmShift Well, I've made arguments, whether you like them or not. Actually, you are the one who provided no arguments, friend. So thanks for that irony.
@AtheistSupremacist Ah yes...nutjobs..and throughout history, people's own govts NEVER oppressed and enslaved the people. To think our governments of today would do such a thing...ahhh...never..LOL ; /
@stangeriam No, the government was indeed not involved, and Chomsky (a much more renowned critic of the government than I suspect you are) agrees, despite the canards of the person who uploaded this video. Its not for trust of our government that I refute 9/11 revisionist nutjobs.
@AtheistSupremacist The official story is discredited by the dishonesty of leaders of the investigations and by the omissions and distortions in the reports.
I also like how youtube doesn't have my final resposne to steeper on the front page... the one that he apparently couldn't answer. Let it be known that the debate was to much for him, not me.
@AtheistSupremacist Thank you for asking! The 9/11 Comm' Executive Director had participated in events the Comm'n was investigating. He wrote an outline for the report, complete with chapter subheadings, B4 the investigation began. He kept up contact improperly with Rice and Rove during the investigation. See David Ray Griffin's essay "The 571-Page lie", a list of 115 omissions and distortions in the Report, including a bizarre lack of interest in the alleged hijackers' source of funds.
Rather than going through a laundry list, I want to make two points.
a) In regards to the hijackers funding; it is rather common knowledge that Saudi Arabia, one of the closest allies of our hypocritical govt, is the primary funder of Islamic terrorism. Might it not be that he was covering this up, not some U.S. government inolvement?
b) That there are distortions in this report does not necessitate that 1) al-Qaeda was not involved or that b) the government was. No?
@AtheistSupremacist Covering up Saudi funding of the terrorists is dishonesty, omission, and distortion. That's not acceptable behavior for the government in a democracy. Whether al Qaeda was involved or not, it appears that 6000 Taliban and al Qaeda fighters were allowed to fly out or walk out of Pakistan, so that looks very much like government involvement. See my video "Noam Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11".
@punxsutawneybarney It goes without saying that it is not acceptable. I also think it goes without saying that we generally have a corrupt government and that we had a particularly corrupt government under Bush. This, however, does not demonstrate that they were involved; much less that al-Qaeda wasn't.
As for the notion that we are 'helping' the Taliban/al-Qaeda; we have a funny way of showing it. Despite their incompetence, under Bush & Obama we've killed scrores of Taliban & al-Qaeda forces.
@AtheistSupremacist I will watch your video, but I have spent countless hours listening to Chomsky and he has never once said that 9/11 was a govt. cover up. He has said the opposite, and quite firmly. And while he can give you a long list of reasons why our wars are wrong, he hardly denies that the Taliban or particularly al-Qaeda are our enemies and vice versa; he is simply not to be cited as an advocate for 9/11 conspiracy theories.
@AtheistSupremacist The fact is that Chomsky says we went to war when we had no evidence that the people we were allegedly hunting were guilty. Yes, "we've killed scrores of Taliban & al-Qaeda forces" as you say. That doesn't change the fact that we let thousands walk or fly out into Pakistan at the same time we were allegedly fighting a war to hunt them down. See my video
@AtheistSupremacist are you sure he said he fully believes the allegations of bin laden being behind it? i heard him say he does not believe the u.s. gov. did it, but i haven't heard him say outright that he believes al-qaeda was behind it. actually, i remember chomsky saying that it doesn't really matter at this point. can you show me where you found otherwise?
@Steeper33 where does chomsky say it was al-qaeda, i hope for your sake you did'nt see or hear it in this video, cos if thats the case your hearing voices and we all know where that leads, sat against flowery wall paper in you own piss picking scabs
@Steeper33 where does chomsky say it was al-qaeda, i hope for your sake you did'nt see or hear it in this video, cos if thats the case your hearing voices and we all know where that leads, sat against flowery wall paper in you own piss picking scabs
Steeper33 you are a piece of shit. Noam Chomsky doesnt believe in 911 truth I have videos as well as others with him saying it was NOT an inside job. he thinks as I do that you people are stupid
@Steeper33 Actually, Chomsky keeps to what the intelligence community thinks. There's no evidence of bin laden's involvement. All speculation though, no evidence. Something you would have picked up had you decided to watch the video instead of commenting. Because of the nature of al qaeda's decentralized cells, it's entirely possible that bin laden didn't even know about the operation even though it might have been carried out by sister cells.
@pmodrat In my view the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a perfect example of why it would be so difficult to keep such a conspiracy silent. The non-existant Gulf of Tonkin incident would have been much easier to cover up than 9/11, yet it was exposed within only a few years. The Bush Administration was much more incompetent than the LBJ Adminstration at keeping secrets, had a press much more vigilant than that faced by Johnson. As Chomsky said, Bush wouldn't have gotten away with it if he had done it
@AtheistSupremacist In my view the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a perfect example of why it would be so difficult to keep such a conspiracy silent
Conspiracies are never silent for long. Files become declassified. Men have a change in philosophy. But realize, you are now acknowledging that conspiracies to do exist.
@AtheistSupremacist For the record, Chumpsky is nothing more than a scumbag zionist gatekeeper, that thinks he's smart/cute or has someone fooled. Not a chance Chumpsky!
Even Talmudic pigs like this MIT rodent have figured out that 911 was completely botched (what would you expect from Jew assholes and their "useful idiots"?) and his days and those of his satanic ilk are toast and SOON!
@EscapeHatchery Real 9/11 Truthers repudiate ugly bigotry like yours that makes the truth movement look bad. If you are out to make us look to Chomsky fans you couldn't do much better.
He never said it is the the Al-Qaeda or whoever it is
Here, he just stated chronological coincidence of 2 events which is might or might not be related to each other and he condemn the bombing of Afghanistan
The main here is not 9/11. The title should be US invasion to Afghanistan
Norm, the plot was hatched years before 2001 but not in Afghanistan and it was carried our operationally by Richard Bruce Cheney, Donald Henry Rumsfeld, and Richard Bowman Meyers. I'm not going to educate you, Norm...do your own homework and learn what the American People have known for years. Cui Bono?
And what JFK conspiracy? No policy changed. The man invaded Vietnam in 1962. Everyone and anyone and a conspirator has a grudge against is blamed for it - Federal Reserve, CFR, Bilderburg, Masons, Illuminati, Catholic Church, CIA, and et certera ad nauseum.
I say who cares, the man was a bum and untold numbers of people have died in Indochina & South America and West Africa as a direct result of his policies.
@pmodrat Remember, he grew up in another era when "Jew" was a common insult. The reason Jews resist questioning the official fairy tale is they, quite understandably, don't want another holocaust right here in America.
It is up to us in the 9/11 truth movement to show that we mean Jews no harm. We mean Israel no harm. We only want the truth. In fact, we SHOULD ask for a truth and reconciliation commission, with NO punishment for anyone who tells the truth about his 9/11 crimes.
you don`t have to be a historian or a rocket scientist to notice there is no evidence for a "foreign terrorist" attack... so what other alternatives are there left?
Chomsky deserves all our thanks. ANY questioning of the official 9/11 fairy tale risks finding bits of evidence that Israelis assisted Dick Cheney. Chomsky is of the generation that worries such a revelation might cause another holocaust. Chomsky's mother was a Hebrew teacher near Philadelphia. His mentor at UPenn was an ardent zionist named Zelig Harris.
We who question 9/11 do not blame Jews for Mossad any more than we want Americans blamed for Bush/Cheney (and now Obama).
Well said. We shouldn't attack someone for having the courage to start questioning - particularly someone who has vocally supported the OS in the past. We want more people to have the integrity to do so. If people fear being attacked from both the OS supporters AND from those who have similar doubts themselves (but just for longer) then we deserve it if more people simply keep quiet about their concerns.
Why now, Noam? I am glad he is finally opening his eyes to the questions of 911. But, he owes the truth movement a sincere apology. Until this, everything he says should be scrutinized from a skeptic perspective. Even then... why did he accept the government's side and not even question the official story until now?
Yea this is big news. He was resistant to it for years I guess he finally see's how much damage the Bush admin did to the country & constitution with his illegal false flag attacks on D.C. and NYC.
@vashguud no mate he has to try to regain some credibility after being leftist gatekeeper for so many years. everyone knows 9/11 is a cover-up and this shill is no longer relevant after his "even if they did do it who cares". chomsky helped cover up for the last 9 years. no doubt brilliant. but a brilliant shill.
1. I think what he is saying is much more philosophical than people realize. It is true that people should provide evidence for their claim if they are going to act on it, however in the situation of 9/11, who are any of us to say that there wouldn't have been any other bombings had the gov not taken action, a question I ask not saying that "we commoners are nobody to say" rather it is a question that I ask suggesting that perhaps the gov did have such info and did have to act on it.
semasiologistics 6 months ago
2. The point is, no, it is not right to bomb anyone unless there is a real reason, but to say that the U.S. just... went in any direction and attacked any old country in sight is crap. The gov went to the countries it did for real reasons, provided or not. And look, in the end, look where he was found. Not in Germany, not in China, no, in the exact country we said he was in. Hm...Looks like there was a reason to me.
semasiologistics 6 months ago
you're arguing a false dichotomy. why is it only either an "inside job"(Bush) or al-qaeda? i haven't heard chomsky say it was definitely anyone specific.
Godvernment 10 months ago
he has been chastised for his lousy statements on 911 earlier. Now he's fence straddling. He's a self serving piece of shit just like the rest of the media. If he didn't sing from the Rothschild hymn book he wouldn't be on tv so much. period. Rothschilds own ALL of the media. They have lieutenants that are front owners only, they also own ap upi and reuters. google it. Chomsky is a disgrace. Die already old bastard.
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
@sssssjjjj1 I disagree that he was fence straddling. I think the statement was a test of the truth movement: would we be mature enough to characterize his statement fairly, reporting that he said that AT THE TIME OF THE AFGHANISTAN ATTACKS the US had no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty? Or would we go around saying "Chomsky says al Qaeda was innocent!" We flunked the test.
For my take on it, see my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 11 months ago
The video title is incredibly misleading. At the time of the war, there was hardly any evidence that Osama did 9/11 and that's exactly what Chomsky said.
He never said that there's still no evidence because by now all the reports indicate it and Osama admitted it himself.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician Do you believe that hijackers with boxcutters outwitted the USA's $500-billion-a-year military defenses even though al Qaeda's "Project Bojinka" plan to crash hijacked airliners into buildings had been known to US authoriities since 1995?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
Yeah, how the fuck could of a disgruntled FedEx worker hijacked a plane in the 90s, doesn't he know we have the most advanced military and security system on earth?
Must of been a conspiracy.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician When the WTC was known to be a target of al Qaeda, when "the system was blinking red" and there were warnings from 13 foreign countries of upcoming attacks, when a westbound airliner turned S directly toward the WTC, why was it permitted to fly almost 200 miles off course without being intercepted and ordered to land. After two planes had been flown into buildings, why was a third permitted to fly 400 miles and crash into the HQ of the most powerful military in the world?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
It was "permitted" because the Pentagon and NORAD etc. don't work like a Jason Bourne movie (or any movie for that matter). It takes hours before data can be analyzed and a decision based on the data can be made.
The 9/11 attacks essentially happened in minutes.
Now whether or not the government should be punished for negligence is a different story, but you have to stop acting like an idiot who thinks the gov. is tracking planes in real time on an 1080i screen.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician I too thought the attacks happened in minutes--that's the only thing that makes sense. Not until 2004 did I find that there was no effective air defense for 100 minutes. Planes launched from Otis and Langley flew out to sea instead of protecting the obvious targets. NORAD had drilled on suicide pilots flying into the WTC, and a 05/03/94 GAO report showed that intercepting unidentified aircraft was a daily task for NORAD from 1990 to 1994.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
That might be because NORAD wasn't in charge of commercial airliners until after 9/11 (the planes were identified), and even if it saw the planes coming, it would take an hour to analyze and probably a few days before the US government could respond.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician From 1991 to 1994 NORAD intercepted a plane a day when they were unidentified, off course, or in distress. Most of these had no transponder signals. It was a routine task. On 9/11, NORAD did not intercept any of the aircraft in 100 minutes. What's to analyze? FAA informed them of hijacked airliners, and the NORAD fighters flew out to sea. "Days to respond"? That's balmy!
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
Yeah, "when they were unidentified" meaning an unknown plane is coming into the US. The 9/11 planes were identified and had no means of communication to inform the government of what was happening.
the FAA only knew about the plot after the first plane hit the towers (obviously) and they thought the second plane was going in for an emergency landing. Lets say what you say is true and the FAA told NORAD after the first plane hit.
Well it's too late by that point.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician You're just making stuff up--as I did, thinking the air war was over in 15 minutes. It wasn't. FAA knew flight 11was in trouble the minute it stopped responding to radio and refused an order to climb to 35,000 feet. That's at 8:13, 33 minutes before it hit the WTC. Before 9/11 FAA issued 52 different warnings about al Qaeda. FAA did tell NORAD about flight 11. You need to investigate the facts before trying to tell us what happened.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
Nope, what I said about the FAA is completely true, and came from declassified documents
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Now your mixing up facts, the FAA got 52 warnings, not sent them. And they weren't aware of the actual plot happening, they were aware of the warmings.
It's interesting that now you abandon your NORAD statements, since it's only job is to find unidentified planes and the 9/11 flights were identified.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician Thank you for setting me straight about the 52 FAA warnings about al Qaeda. I had thought they were FAA-generated. No, they were received and ignored by FAA security.
NORAD was charged among other things with assisting aircraft in distress. You think a plane hijacked by suicide hijackers was not distressed? You are inventing arguments for complacency. What would lead someone to do would do such a thing?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
How would NORAD or anybody know? The only communication coming from the planes were passengers making cell phone calls to relatives.
NORAD at that time was only charged with unidentified planes and (like I said before) the 9/11 flights were completely identified.
The FAA only realized what was happening after the first plane hit the towers and didn't know what the second plane was doing.
To say this is impossible is, well, kind of silly.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician At 8:23 the ATCs heard a heavily accented voice from flight 11 say "We have some planes, just stay quiet and you'll be okay." You obviously have not studied this, and yet you try to pass yourself off as an expert. So in your imagination, NORAD was not charged with responding to hijackings as long as the hijacked planes were identified? You are nuts. NORAD had done drills on the scenario of suicide pilots flying into the WTC.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
lol I'm no expert, I just look through the facts.
Are you telling me that somehow "We have some planes, just stay quiet and you'll be okay" means our planes are hijacked? At what time did it even happen?
(Cont.)
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician Yes, when the plane refuses to respond to radio contact, ignores ATC directives, turns south on a west-bound flight, and a heavily-accented voice threatens the passengers--yes, suspicions of a hijacking are more than justified. FAA policy was that when there was any doubt, the case was to be considered an emergency--meaning NORAD would be called in.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
I don't think so. There has never been a direct air intervention for a hijacking, ever. Prior to 9/11, hijackers would simply fly to some location and get arrested there.
Assuming NORAD would take responsibility (which is like asking the EPA to take responsibility for auditing economic transactions) there's nothing they could of done.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician You make up your facts. If NORAD had no responsibility, why did they repeatedly do war games drills on hijackings, including suicide hijackings? Why do you repeatedly invent lies to try to deflect legitimate concerns?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
I've went over this like maybe 5 times now.
They had responsibility over UNIDENTIFIED aircraft. So like if an unidentified war plane did a kamikaze attack they would be in charge, not commercial planes (which are easily identified).
After 9/11, NORAD was publicly announced to look after all aircraft, not just unidentified ones.
All that aside, there has never been a direct intervention, like I mentioned.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@AndroidPolitician If NORAD was not responisible to escort hijacked commercial aircraft, why did they repeatedly do war game drills on hijackings, inclusinf suicide hijackings? Why do you repeatedly invent lies to try to deflect legitimate concerns?
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
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@punxsutawneybarney
"They had responsibility over UNIDENTIFIED aircraft...not commercial planes (which are easily identified)."
^^^^ see thing I'm posting for the 6th time now.
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
(Cont.)
I don't know if you've ever heard or read about black box recordings of crashed planes, but unless their specific the ATCs don't care. In a crashed (if I recall correctly) Korea flight, the guy said something along the lines of "We're running out of fuel" which doesn't mean anything because Planes always run out of fuel and the ATCs didn't bother to respond.
But lets say they did, are the ATCs supposed to call NORAD? Which doesn't even do commercial planes?
AndroidPolitician 1 year ago
i work for the CIA
we did 9/11
matchbox555 1 year ago
Chomsky takes the position that blaming the government takes the blame away from those who really caused the attacks: The Governement. They didn't orchestrate the attack, they didn't have to. If another country was treating us like the US has been treating the middle east, you'd sign up to be a suicide bomber too.
AnarchyRules17 1 year ago
You realize in another interview he said quite clearly that 911 was not done by the US government but by al qadea and by the way I hate the US but this shit is not only retarted but I also know now I will get jumped on by all the NWO bullshiters saying I am the anti christ or a mason or even part of the Jewish cabal or something like that. I just love you americans while you fight over fake bullshit the rest of the world wizzes you by have fun assholes with you idiocy
meleszenawi1111 1 year ago
Noam who?
beachcombe2008 1 year ago
idiots, he never says that america or israel did it. He simply said that it was ILLOGICAL to attack Afghanistan as the bombers came from Germany or the united arab emirates.
Takaja316 1 year ago
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There is no evidence what so ever and the governments think we are that stupid!
cornwallgeezer 1 year ago
put that ass in jail then
galegregory97comcast 1 year ago
For perspective and enrichment material on Chomsky's statement see my video "Comsky on False-flag Wars and 9/11".
Also my remark below should be "If you are out to make us look bad to Chomsky fans you couldn't do much better."
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
DOWN WITH ISRAELI/NAZIONIST LIES TO WAGE WAR ON LIES IN IRAQ, LEBANON, SYRIA, IRAN, AFGHANISTAN! DOWN WITH THESE UGLY ZIONIST PIGS!
antekification 1 year ago
Prior to the invasion of Afghanistan we had already identified several of the hi-jackers as known members of Al Qaeda and that was all over the international news. The Taliban had the evidence they needed....as if evidence and due process was something that the Taliban ever cared about. LOL
thx291 1 year ago
we thats nice and all but you wont seeing him say Israel committed the attacks which theres overwhelming evidence of because hes false opposition
o1OpTiMuS1o 1 year ago
I like how defenders of the official story always seem to have an explanation that tends to need explaining.
What about WTC 7? In 6.5 seconds? "Well, um, you see... substation!! and scooped out!!"
M3di3v4L 1 year ago
For further information putting Dr. Chomsky's remarks more in context, see my video "Chomsky on Faith-Based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
I got it, thanks for sending it!
katey1dog 1 year ago
9/11 was a massive psy-op. It worked magnificently on the masses, drove Americans to change their way of life to be safe from a threat that ranks lower than peanut allergies. Thousands of our soldiers have died by the hands of muslims who defend their land while our land has been hijacked by bankster/criminals and ignorant propaganda loving morons.
JebBlack2010 1 year ago
Heh Heh! I see the deplonkers are on it already. Good one!
Vinseneb 1 year ago
911 was an inside job.
So was the Gulf of Tonkin.
And USS Liberty. You have to be nuts to believe in the magic bullet in JFK.
Oh ya and Cuba sunk the Main.
And Operation Northwood.
How can anyone trust our media, or Government?You must be nuts if you do.
pmodrat 1 year ago
It's really sad to see how long it has taken this man to admit the OBVIOUS in your face fact that ALciada trained at military bases and were let in on flagged passports & visas. Chomsky finally has his nuts back. My respect for this man just went way up.
As long as he is not still claiming this event didn't matter.
Drumvain 1 year ago
wow the terrorists didnt do it, oh thanks noam, for catching up man. perhaps in another five years you'll figure out that jet fuel can't melt steel and concrete and let us all know in a holographic presentation ffs. science rules.
Psy0psAgent 1 year ago
You should change the title to ''Not Enough Evidence 9.11 Plan Concocted In Afghanistan to Justify Invasion'', instead of having this current misleading title designed to get more viewers.
ykoshy 1 year ago
For the record; Chomsky is not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist (i.e. a nutjob). He has stated that bin Laden and Al Qaeda plotted 9/11 and he has stated that the Bush Administration was not in on it.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
For the record; The official 9/11 story is a conspiracy theory. Check the definition. :)
So Chomsky and apparently yourself believe that al-qaeda was responsible for 9/11 based on No Evidence that al-qaeda was responsible for 9/11. How exactly does that work? and who again is the nutjob? :P
Steeper33 1 year ago 42
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"Conspiracy theorist" is a term that we use for people who wear aluminum foil hats & spout discredited nonsense; that would apparently be you. But yes, it was plotted by your pal Osama, who has admitted to the crime/conspiracy. Apparently that story is not sexy enough for you; but no evidence? All of the hijackers were affiliated with.. al-Qaeda.
At any rate, I merely said that you should not misrepresent Chomsky's position; you even just admitted in your reply that he doesn't agree with you.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Again check the definition, because you are only making fun of yourself.
You said "Osama, who has admitted to the crime/conspiracy."
Unbelievable!! So Your evidence is a spliced up mistranslated fake video in which the world's top bin laden expert "Bruce Lawrence" and the top bin laden experts in the Department of Homeland Security agree IS A FAKE! So who is spouting off discredited nonsense? Apparently You!
Steeper33 1 year ago 27
Check the definition of Risperidone. Might help you. You evaded the hijackers point, of course. There is film of Osama with two hijackers. Fake, I'm sure. Everyone lied about 9/11; media, experts, Chomsky. But not you, of course, the one misrepresenting Chomsky's position.
Big fan of DHS? Really? So I suppose you would believe them if they endorsed the "official story"? Great; do some research.
Your head must be pretty deep in the sand for you to underestimate this "Islamic terror" phenomenon.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Where is the evidence that Al Queda committed these acts? Any written documentation? Fingerprint analysis, DNA analysis, security camera footage of the crime in progress, or any forensic investigation for that matter?
Something to suggest Bin Laden? Since, of course, the alleged hijackers are all dead.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@katey1dog In your post I see the evidence of lack of initiative on the part of the lazy minded conspiracy theorist camp.
They were all recruited by al-Qaeda, personally met with Osama bin Laden (who declared war on America and has been killing Americans since long before Bush ever entered office) and, as you point out, they are all dead... which magically occured when they flew the planes into the buildings. Case closed? Or are the facts unconvincing unless UFO's are involved?
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
They were all recruited by al-Qaeda
Where are the enlistment papers attesting to their recruitment? personally met with Osama bin Laden
All 19? Dates and locations, please.
who declared war on America and has been killing Americans since long before Bush ever entered office
Where and when was this "declaration of war" penned and ratified? And does a non-sovereign entity have the power to declare such action?
katey1dog 1 year ago
@katey1dog The 1998 declaration of war by Bin Laden, his fatwa on America, is a pretty common knowledge, well-reported event. Ignorance is not a virtue; when you know so little about an issue it is probably best to do more research and less finger pointing. The text of the declaration can be found on news sources like PBS.Your comment about al-Qaeda being a non-sovereign entity is a foolish red herring. Osama considers himself at war with the US; his having no legal right to be is irrelevant.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist The 1998 declaration of war by Bin Laden, his fatwa on America, is a pretty common knowledge, well-reported event.
Compared to what? Did PBS also state that Bin Laden was involved with the CIA and the Pakistani ISI? Because, you can find that too on PBS. So the premise of a "Declaration of War" is suspicious and possibly spurious.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Did PBS also state that he actively engaged the Soviets while building the roads that led US arms to the Muj? All while being treated for wounds by US operatives?
Does PBS also state how Bin Laden managed to be treated in Pakistani hospitals, in the 90s?
katey1dog 1 year ago
@katey1dog Ho Chi Minh also cooperated with the CIA's forerunner. I suppose the Vietnam War was also a hoax.
Bin Laden was angered by American foreign policy and turned on it, bombing and killing many Americans before Bush ever stepped into office. Pretty simple to understand; no UFO's needed.
Red herring? It was a clear comparison. A red herring would be a statement such as "Can Bin Laden legally declare war if he doesn't have a sovereign state?" Bin Laden cares about te law? Myopia.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist Ho Chi Minh also cooperated with the CIA's forerunner. I suppose the Vietnam War was also a hoax.
Now you are beginning to see! We aided Uncle Ho and Bin Laden against a common enemy. AND... The Government decided to turn on them.
Bin Laden was angered by American foreign policy and turned on it, bombing and killing many Americans before Bush ever stepped into office.
Possibly, but the Embassy bombings and the USS Cole are not in question.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Or are the facts unconvincing unless UFO's are involved?
The facts being only circumstantial. No evidence, as yet officially, has been attained by the Government to preclude beyond reasonable doubt that Bin Laden or Al Qaeda are at all responsible for these actions.
Unless you happen to speak Farci or have any idea as to the current status of one Osama bin Laden, then he remains at large and still not charged with the events of 9/11.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@katey1dog Three of the hijackers met Bin Laden in Afghanistan, in Karachi, according to the LA Times. I believe you mean Farsi, not Farci, though it seems unlikely that Bin Laden is in Iran if that is what you are suggesting; al-Qaeda and the Shi'ite are not friends, which you might know if you knew anything about these issues.
I suppose Hitler is innocent since he was never charged? As I stated, Bin Laden has admitted to the crimes.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist Three of the hijackers met Bin Laden in Afghanistan, in Karachi, according to the LA Times.
That's quite a change from your claim earlier...
They were all recruited by al-Qaeda, personally met with Osama bin Laden
I suppose Hitler is innocent since he was never charged?
:::cough::: Red Herring much?
katey1dog 1 year ago
@katey1dog Take it up with the LA Times.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Again with the Red Herrings?
Strange how the Federal Government new of the names of these men, their nationalities, alleged ties to "terror" groups, Bin Laden himself, flight training, traveling habits, and addresses.
Take it up with FRONTLINE.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Buddy, if you are too stupid to figure out that 9/11 was staged by the US government, try going back to high school and taking the physics class.
Until then, just STFU!
bofors7715 1 year ago
@bofors7715 So the government staged 9/11 because someone on the internet named "bofors" is attempting to pass himself off as an authority on physics. I suppose that trumps the experts and comissions who have said that the "official story" is perfectly satisfactory as an explanation. Chomsky has said the same, despite the misrepresentations of the person who uploaded this video.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@Steeper33 Lol mis-translated? I can understand Arabic fine and it's not mistranslated so you're already proven to be a liar there, and there's Al Jazeeras high quality interview with Osama where he admits it, where its evident it's him in the footage without doubt.
You guys are fucking idiots.
IzaFaqat 5 months ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Only people who have no argument resort to name calling and ad-hominem attacks.
TheParadigmShift 1 year ago
@TheParadigmShift Well, I've made arguments, whether you like them or not. Actually, you are the one who provided no arguments, friend. So thanks for that irony.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist yawn
luce67 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist Ah yes...nutjobs..and throughout history, people's own govts NEVER oppressed and enslaved the people. To think our governments of today would do such a thing...ahhh...never..LOL ; /
stangeriam 1 year ago
@stangeriam No, the government was indeed not involved, and Chomsky (a much more renowned critic of the government than I suspect you are) agrees, despite the canards of the person who uploaded this video. Its not for trust of our government that I refute 9/11 revisionist nutjobs.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
I don't know if you wear tin foil hats, and I don't care, but you spout discredited nonsense, the official story. That just makes you stupid.
LambadLambadLambda 1 year ago
@LambadLambadLambda Why is it discredited? Because you read so online?
Is Chomsky stupid?
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist The official story is discredited by the dishonesty of leaders of the investigations and by the omissions and distortions in the reports.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney I suppose its too much to ask that someone be specific.
I also like how youtube doesn't have my final resposne to steeper on the front page... the one that he apparently couldn't answer. Let it be known that the debate was to much for him, not me.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
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AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist Thank you for asking! The 9/11 Comm' Executive Director had participated in events the Comm'n was investigating. He wrote an outline for the report, complete with chapter subheadings, B4 the investigation began. He kept up contact improperly with Rice and Rove during the investigation. See David Ray Griffin's essay "The 571-Page lie", a list of 115 omissions and distortions in the Report, including a bizarre lack of interest in the alleged hijackers' source of funds.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney
Rather than going through a laundry list, I want to make two points.
a) In regards to the hijackers funding; it is rather common knowledge that Saudi Arabia, one of the closest allies of our hypocritical govt, is the primary funder of Islamic terrorism. Might it not be that he was covering this up, not some U.S. government inolvement?
b) That there are distortions in this report does not necessitate that 1) al-Qaeda was not involved or that b) the government was. No?
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist Covering up Saudi funding of the terrorists is dishonesty, omission, and distortion. That's not acceptable behavior for the government in a democracy. Whether al Qaeda was involved or not, it appears that 6000 Taliban and al Qaeda fighters were allowed to fly out or walk out of Pakistan, so that looks very much like government involvement. See my video "Noam Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11".
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@punxsutawneybarney It goes without saying that it is not acceptable. I also think it goes without saying that we generally have a corrupt government and that we had a particularly corrupt government under Bush. This, however, does not demonstrate that they were involved; much less that al-Qaeda wasn't.
As for the notion that we are 'helping' the Taliban/al-Qaeda; we have a funny way of showing it. Despite their incompetence, under Bush & Obama we've killed scrores of Taliban & al-Qaeda forces.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist I will watch your video, but I have spent countless hours listening to Chomsky and he has never once said that 9/11 was a govt. cover up. He has said the opposite, and quite firmly. And while he can give you a long list of reasons why our wars are wrong, he hardly denies that the Taliban or particularly al-Qaeda are our enemies and vice versa; he is simply not to be cited as an advocate for 9/11 conspiracy theories.
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist The fact is that Chomsky says we went to war when we had no evidence that the people we were allegedly hunting were guilty. Yes, "we've killed scrores of Taliban & al-Qaeda forces" as you say. That doesn't change the fact that we let thousands walk or fly out into Pakistan at the same time we were allegedly fighting a war to hunt them down. See my video
"Chomsky on Faith-Based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist are you sure he said he fully believes the allegations of bin laden being behind it? i heard him say he does not believe the u.s. gov. did it, but i haven't heard him say outright that he believes al-qaeda was behind it. actually, i remember chomsky saying that it doesn't really matter at this point. can you show me where you found otherwise?
drvn8 9 months ago
@Steeper33 where does chomsky say it was al-qaeda, i hope for your sake you did'nt see or hear it in this video, cos if thats the case your hearing voices and we all know where that leads, sat against flowery wall paper in you own piss picking scabs
telboyy 1 year ago
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@Steeper33 where does chomsky say it was al-qaeda, i hope for your sake you did'nt see or hear it in this video, cos if thats the case your hearing voices and we all know where that leads, sat against flowery wall paper in you own piss picking scabs
telboyy 1 year ago
Steeper33 you are a piece of shit. Noam Chomsky doesnt believe in 911 truth I have videos as well as others with him saying it was NOT an inside job. he thinks as I do that you people are stupid
jonLukasC 11 months ago
@Steeper33
The airplane hijackers were Al Quaida members.
What concrete evidence do 9/11 truthers have that the government (or the NWO, whoever that is supposed to be) plotted 9/11?
Answer: NONE
xknowledgeisfreex 9 months ago
@Steeper33 Actually, Chomsky keeps to what the intelligence community thinks. There's no evidence of bin laden's involvement. All speculation though, no evidence. Something you would have picked up had you decided to watch the video instead of commenting. Because of the nature of al qaeda's decentralized cells, it's entirely possible that bin laden didn't even know about the operation even though it might have been carried out by sister cells.
shakur420 8 months ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Anwar Al Awlaki dine in Pentagon After 9/11.
High level Al-Qaeda.
Look it up please. Everyone look it up.
Gulf of Tonkin to start a war. That killed 55,000 Americans.
Operation Northwood that Kennedy stopped.
Not trying to piss anyone off.
Just a very small part of why I don't trust the Government, and our corporate owned media.
pmodrat 1 year ago
@pmodrat In my view the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a perfect example of why it would be so difficult to keep such a conspiracy silent. The non-existant Gulf of Tonkin incident would have been much easier to cover up than 9/11, yet it was exposed within only a few years. The Bush Administration was much more incompetent than the LBJ Adminstration at keeping secrets, had a press much more vigilant than that faced by Johnson. As Chomsky said, Bush wouldn't have gotten away with it if he had done it
AtheistSupremacist 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist In my view the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a perfect example of why it would be so difficult to keep such a conspiracy silent
Conspiracies are never silent for long. Files become declassified. Men have a change in philosophy. But realize, you are now acknowledging that conspiracies to do exist.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist The non-existant Gulf of Tonkin incident would have been much easier to cover up than 9/11
Non-existant? You've just acknowledged its existence.
katey1dog 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Didn't it take like 25 years for the false flag operation on us by our lovely government (Gulf of Tonken) to come out.
Wasn't in the news. Or school history books. Why?
What about the USS Liberty? Operation Nortwoods JFK stopped
Cuba really sank the Main to start a war they couldn't win? Most people are beginning to see the truth.
That's why you're one of the only people on this forum believing the corporate propaganda. But questioning helps truth.Thanks to both sides.
pmodrat 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist For the record, Chumpsky is nothing more than a scumbag zionist gatekeeper, that thinks he's smart/cute or has someone fooled. Not a chance Chumpsky!
Even Talmudic pigs like this MIT rodent have figured out that 911 was completely botched (what would you expect from Jew assholes and their "useful idiots"?) and his days and those of his satanic ilk are toast and SOON!
Who gives a flyin fuck what he says, asshole.
EscapeHatchery 1 year ago
@EscapeHatchery Real 9/11 Truthers repudiate ugly bigotry like yours that makes the truth movement look bad. If you are out to make us look to Chomsky fans you couldn't do much better.
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
@AtheistSupremacist And why would one be considered a "nut job" if he or she has a cogent argument otherwise?
saltydog78 10 months ago
@AtheistSupremacist
Actually, he never said who's doing 9/11, right?
He never said it is the the Al-Qaeda or whoever it is
Here, he just stated chronological coincidence of 2 events which is might or might not be related to each other and he condemn the bombing of Afghanistan
The main here is not 9/11. The title should be US invasion to Afghanistan
nahrubwg 9 months ago
Don't confuse me with facts, my mind's made up.
rollsthepaul 1 year ago
Are you all dense? Chomsky has allways said 9/11 was used to stage a war in Afghanistan whithout evidence that it was Bin Laden or Al Quaida.
But that is NOT the same as the moronic chant "9/11 was an inside job".
Get the difference now?
13otany13ay 1 year ago
A little late to the party
dolphwong 1 year ago
Its about time but it only took u 9 years... Sad Sad
northerndisclosure 1 year ago
@northerndisclosure
He's been saying it for 9 years
KentAllard 1 year ago
Norm, the plot was hatched years before 2001 but not in Afghanistan and it was carried our operationally by Richard Bruce Cheney, Donald Henry Rumsfeld, and Richard Bowman Meyers. I'm not going to educate you, Norm...do your own homework and learn what the American People have known for years. Cui Bono?
Lurie2010 1 year ago
Why is Chomsky changing his now?
Is it because Howard Zinn has died and no longer corrupting his thoughts?
I have heard that Chomsky also denies or ignores the JFK assassination conspiracy.
bofors7715 1 year ago
@bofors7715
Its what he has always said.
And what JFK conspiracy? No policy changed. The man invaded Vietnam in 1962. Everyone and anyone and a conspirator has a grudge against is blamed for it - Federal Reserve, CFR, Bilderburg, Masons, Illuminati, Catholic Church, CIA, and et certera ad nauseum.
I say who cares, the man was a bum and untold numbers of people have died in Indochina & South America and West Africa as a direct result of his policies.
KentAllard 1 year ago
Fuck Chumpsky. He stands behind the official 911 lie.
Whats up with that blinking globe in the back ground?
NoNORADon911 1 year ago
@NoNORADon911 its a pedestrian crossing.
RevolutionNo1 1 year ago
very mis-leading title here. what he's saying is there was no evidence presented that the plot was implemented in afghanistan. he's no 9/11 truther
1ferg1 1 year ago 2
Being Jewish made him way to slow on this one.
He should have see this before all of us.
pmodrat 1 year ago
@pmodrat Remember, he grew up in another era when "Jew" was a common insult. The reason Jews resist questioning the official fairy tale is they, quite understandably, don't want another holocaust right here in America.
It is up to us in the 9/11 truth movement to show that we mean Jews no harm. We mean Israel no harm. We only want the truth. In fact, we SHOULD ask for a truth and reconciliation commission, with NO punishment for anyone who tells the truth about his 9/11 crimes.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
Pentagon+Mossad= 911
Bankers+Politicians+ Media = Wars
perazh 1 year ago
you don`t have to be a historian or a rocket scientist to notice there is no evidence for a "foreign terrorist" attack... so what other alternatives are there left?
log140 1 year ago
somehow i knew you would find this and post it ;) Keep it up , your channel is a great way to get this information out...
ottawafro 1 year ago 5
@ottawafro
Thanks Ty, hope all is well my friend.
Steeper33 1 year ago
@Steeper33 whats your name dude if i may ask
jaminjava2 1 year ago
Chomsky deserves all our thanks. ANY questioning of the official 9/11 fairy tale risks finding bits of evidence that Israelis assisted Dick Cheney. Chomsky is of the generation that worries such a revelation might cause another holocaust. Chomsky's mother was a Hebrew teacher near Philadelphia. His mentor at UPenn was an ardent zionist named Zelig Harris.
We who question 9/11 do not blame Jews for Mossad any more than we want Americans blamed for Bush/Cheney (and now Obama).
Skeptic121 1 year ago 3
@Skeptic121
Well said. We shouldn't attack someone for having the courage to start questioning - particularly someone who has vocally supported the OS in the past. We want more people to have the integrity to do so. If people fear being attacked from both the OS supporters AND from those who have similar doubts themselves (but just for longer) then we deserve it if more people simply keep quiet about their concerns.
ThePeage 1 year ago
Why now, Noam? I am glad he is finally opening his eyes to the questions of 911. But, he owes the truth movement a sincere apology. Until this, everything he says should be scrutinized from a skeptic perspective. Even then... why did he accept the government's side and not even question the official story until now?
magichandpuppet 1 year ago
@magichandpuppet Amen! Little too late to say sorry to us now, when he had the ability to help save more lives from these disasterous wars.
BumperTapper2 1 year ago
Yea this is big news. He was resistant to it for years I guess he finally see's how much damage the Bush admin did to the country & constitution with his illegal false flag attacks on D.C. and NYC.
vashguud 1 year ago
@vashguud no mate he has to try to regain some credibility after being leftist gatekeeper for so many years. everyone knows 9/11 is a cover-up and this shill is no longer relevant after his "even if they did do it who cares". chomsky helped cover up for the last 9 years. no doubt brilliant. but a brilliant shill.
Juicer63 1 year ago