COP15 is a 'member's only club' for the wealthiest high-society elites; corrupt globalists who pull the strings, the very bankster scum guilty of the majority of heinous crimes against nature and humanity.
When there is nothing left for these criminals to rape and pillage, profits alone shall not stave off hunger.
The day of reckoning is at hand, decadence and evil deeds against humanity shall not go unpunished! Occupy Copenhagen NOW!
Remove these elitist liars from the seat of global power NOW!
Don't judge people based on their country. Try to think of people as "Other Me's", because that is what other people are. They entered life just as you did, used there eyes to both see and cry as did you, longed for love as you, felt helpless when bullied, driven when inspired, disheartened by injustice, dispared to lose someone and then again to lose someone else.. ..this is life. That is you! Don't run "Me's" down, Inspire them to build "Me's" up. Your selling your-self short..
With all due respect, Barry, when was there ever a time to talk? The man-made global warming hoaxers have used ridicule to stifle dissenters for years.
When are people going to stop taking these government officials seriously? They are frauds. Government is a coercive monopoly that imposes itself into all aspects of our lives. Every problem they intend to solve, they make worse. We are perfectly able to interact voluntarily with each other without these idiots. Without government, free competition naturally drives up quality & drives down costs for every product & service we need. It's time to leave these relics in the past.
He is starting to believe in his own role as Messiah of the West. Copenhagen is too small to house his ego, I am afraid. I am getting very annoyed by this megalomaniac President who thinks that he can save the entire world by flying there and reading some lines of the teleprompter. He ought better to focus on the US, for he is failing in all his plans that should have brought change (maybe the US is better off with him failing).
This is pretty ironic, since president Obama is all talk and the other nations have actually ACTED upon climate change far more than the US can ever hope to.
It's "better for us to chose action over inaction " is precisely what creates most trouble in the first place ...especially all this useless junk the great Americas have spread around the world, thinking of themselves as "democratic", "economically and technologically superior".
Screw your shallow superiority, I don't acknowledge your achievements.
There seems as little of a wiseman in Obama as there was a peacemaker in Bush.
Chosing the "future over the past"... what a choice, wow.
The IPCC and its fraudulent and biased "research" and this proclaimed "unanimous agreement of all scientists" is not a foundation... it is the worst of what has yet been suggested as science.
Reducing emissions? Sure! CO2? Is not the issue! Fossil fuels? Yeah, don't burn them... there are better ways.
"Fighting" climate change?!? What world do you live in? That sounds more like "fighting real change" to me... you know the one as was suggested in "yes we can", Mr. Hypocrite.
the problem with obama are the americans, even if he wanted to change, his people would not follow him or would just kill him as they did with JFK.
culture is requisite,
and lack of culture is a luxury.
bio-diverse nature is fundamental and equals stability
nature destruction, monoculture and oppression of the weak is doom! How come the USA with all its wealth has a lower living standard than other much poorer countries?
not to say europe,... ignorance is the worse enemy of nature!
The "people" is not a magic entity that can act on its own, it is a collection of individuals. Therefore "they" (i.e. the American people) did not kill Kennedy (Lee Harvey Oswald). You do of course realize that man is part of nature? But also that technology is part of man. We have evolved beyond the point of being able to survive without technology (in its broadest terms, eg spear knife clothing). The return to some Garden of Eden state of nature before man is ludicrous, it never existed
who is talking about garden of eden? and who told you about LHO? is that a fox news issue again?
lets face the truth! people support KMart, Wallmart and GM more than their gov. that's the problem. you think by voting every 4 years that you accomplished all your civil responsibilities. who cares about what obama does, the question is, what do US americans do for the usa and the world? consume, fat cars, luxury, drugs,. someone else is running the US and its not the gov. its its individuals!
Your view of the US is a grotesque caricature. The US is the absolute leader in the world in science and technology. Of the top 15 universities in the world 13 are American. The US was a safe haven for democracy when Europe was in shambles. It harboured and protected the European intellectuals and culture. It was the first country in the world to acknowledge human rights in a constitution. The US has been a preserver and protector of Western culture. (I am European and ev
come on! i respect your point of view but this was yesterday when we were still brainwashed and didn't know about the killings of the USA in latin america, asia and middle east. USA got rich finacing the two world wars, before that they were just a bunch of farmers (and trust me, they were better that way, at least morally). Consider the overwhelming majority of scientist in the USA foreigners that are easily bought from poorer countries, but the great USA population is sadly ignorant!
you see, democracy is an illusion as long as the people are bad informed! that's the beauty of fox news and Disneyland! christ was crucified democratically! i guess native americans had a greater notion of democracy than the US americans have today! switzerland has had a democracy for almost 1000years (women not really included) and what about greece? many cultures invented that before the USA, lets not give them all the credits. (historians, please back me up!)
having bigger airplanes and tanks doesn't make them leaders, europe has better health and school systems. your noble price winners are naturalized aliens! switzerland has the highest percapita noble prices, europe has much more students/inhabitants and in average better Universities (hundreds and gratis) instead of just a few elite schools (60k usd/year) and a lot of really bad universities (20k usd/y), i am worried for the us! if they go down, they will try to take the rest with them!
Please check the '09 Shanghai Rankings, the US puts Europe to shame. There you can see the statistics on education. The US was a industrial power long before WOI. Millions and millions Europeans migrated to the US during this period because they could build better lives for themselves. They did not get rich by funding wars, nor where they ever an Imperial power like most Europeans countries. They nearly devastated an industrial empire by saving Europe.
this ranking is really criticized, of course it doesn't take in account many important parameters. it sets importance in noble prizes and field medals and publications on USamerican magazines. consider that f.ex Obama got a peace noble price for the only fact of being black i guess,... anyway, the ranking discussion is to large. but dont forget a harvard students pay 47k USD/year ! guess masters even more! sound strange.
Wilson saved Europe from a catastrophe. Then again young men were sacrificed for the freedom of Europe in WOII. The US did not invent democracy, it perfected it with their 18th century constitution and set an example for the world. The US is the oldest democracy. It was not the first, but it has lasted for over 230 years. Longer than any country in the history of the world. The US has more medical innovations than ALL other nations combined.
and by the way, i am not defending europe, these guys are also very materialistic and polluting. USA not imperial??? come on,.. USA stole half of mexico (texas and california), what is it these guys are doing in wars all over the world?
America stole half of Mexico? Who did the spainards take Mexico from? The Indians. Land has been conquered all throughout history by different nations different tribes and you want to blame America for one more land grab? Mexicans are just as guilty as Americans if thats the way you see it.
Killing and steeling is as old as mankind, yet this doesnt make it a good thing to do! US americans killed the Indianans just as the Spanish did. Spain learned something and stopped colonialism, imperialism and has a social gov today, yet the USA keeps on killing and looting the planet! Open your eyes amigo! USA is an empire, not a democracy!
One reason why healthcare cost are high in the US is the high level of innovation. European countries then benefit from the sacrifices that the Americans have to make. Also it has more nobel prize winners in medicine than all nations combined.
They do have a lot of nobel prize winners who are foreign-born. But they came to the US because they were protected from the Nazis and could live in peace and freedom. They became more American than any American.
ex: greece,... they have no innovation at all compared to USA, yet their life expectancy is higher than that of USamericans. what is this overweight story all about? if you keep the people sick, they pay! if you keep them healthy they need no innovation! its actually quite simple! USAs average life expectancy ranks at place 50 or 38, if you don't count small countries. money doesn't buy everything! and innovation is not measurable!
Obama is the first US President to acknowledge climate change and the first to commit to action. It is limited action but action none the less. If the republicans were still in you would get nothing.
Pure bullshit, as he and the chinese did absolutely nothing to make a deal.
Those 2 and a half pages are less than worthless. It sets arbitrary goals for a future where those responsible are long dead. They should all be but i jail just for that alone.
This guy is a joke, the "climate change phenomenon" what a fucking idiot. Climate Change is a natural occourance that has been going on for BILLIONS of years, it is no "phenomenon". Either hes dumb or he knows this is all a scam to get us further into world government, get us paying carbon taxes and get the population down significantly by 2020 if they get their wish. he's an idiot, he needs to learn CO2 doesnt control temperatures and the earth absorbs most of that Co2 that EVERY lifeform emits
Oh I get it. You're probably one of those "climate change deniers". Have you read any of the scientific research done on the topic? What do you think about it?
like i said above i do not deny "climate change" which is a natural occourance that has been going on for billions of years even before the existance of man, im saying the global warming hysteria that people like you and your ilk spew is a total LIE. If you look at the ice core samples and go back a few million years you would figure out that global cooling on earth is more of a threat to life on earth than global warming is. get the facts you brainwashed goons.
God damn Mister Obama, please sir, please sir, I've been reading science mags since I was a kid, it has to change now or it doesn't and we die. The thing is, it'll be both the poor and the rich. We can't fix it soon enough.
Mr. Obama is good speaker but not a good leader. He doesn;t know how to get things done. His speeches are very inspirational and morivated and he promises alots of much. but unfortunately nothing works... not a man of word. wotever award gets award he gets, the infact is infront of us....
When he says the time for talk is over is he being ironic? Is this part of his new stand up comedy act? All this guy has done is talk! Lets have some action O!
Yes most definately. New world order. Are country has been hijacked by globalist not good for Americans.Good by to our safe little haven we call home America. Thats why we need DR. Ron Paul.
It's so frightening how many extremely enthusiastic and interested commenters seem like they're walking in a fog, with no clue what's really happening in the world. The things they are worried about -- the insidiousness of the United Nations, the WWF, the coming revolution over the dollar, etc. -- are so far off the mark that I don't even know where to even begin to clear away some of the fog. I feel like I've failed my countrymen, and I'm SO sorry for that.
i hate saying this but fuck you democratic poppet! WHERE IS TE CHANGE!?!?!? everything is going back or even worst than in the past years. i think when i was little in the 90's everything looked so bright. now everything looks like a cloud that everyone needs to walk trough alone bs!
Honestly, the more hands I see these puppet globalists play, the more and more I begin to believe in this NWO conspiracy stuff.
Has anyone actually read the treaty they are trying to get through? I did, and it ACTUALLY does create a central self-enforcing Government body. I didn't believe it till I read it myself!
God, look at this puppet (Obama) read off of his teleprompter. The dumbass probably doesn't even know what he is saying. Pathetic.
Read on Bretton Woods Conference, which shaped the world monetary order for the next +40 years.
UN is now on steroids, money flowing in under Carbon Tax fraud, UNelected UN delegates agreeing to corporate agendas set forth by greedy families of Rothschilds and Rockefellers..
It was Lord Nathan Rothschild who arranged Earth Live event to push for Global Warming agenda.
And it was Rockefellers' "Wild World Fund" that pushed extinct polar bears!
The World Wildlife Fund is actually primarily a project of the British Monarchy. It was founded by Nazis Prince Philip, Prince Bernhard of Holland (who, incidentally, was a card-carrying member of the Waffen SS), and British Eugenics Society president Julian Huxley.
Julian Huxley was also the head of UNESCO and won awards from Planned Parenthood...
It's amazing how the UN is tied to EVERYTHING evil and foul..
I think UN's existing site is donated by Rockefeller.. Associated Press is neatly located under the feet of David Rockefeller in Rockefeller Center in Manhattan.
University of Illinois - Cryosphere Today - Arctic Basin Anomaly Hits Bottom Of Chart - Democratic Underground / This is the sea-ice extent showing sea-ice has returned to near normal amounts and there has actually been global cooling for the last 9 yrs. It also proves there is no man-made GW ! Al Gore has been lying all along about GW with the help of Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer etc. It is a hoax to finance one world gov. ! Say no to these leftist thugs and no Crap and Trade!
How can you move forward when the math and sci they are using was FIX to fit there need and make a profit like Hore and other has so far. Real Sci and edu the people and the change has already happen and Im a victim of that. Hell a WAR is not won in a day but only over time But they want it NOW!!!!!!! REAL SCI NOT BS SCI for profit
@Apsu88 Nobody wants to hear "you are all sheep. you're gonna be eaten by the power of the Illuminati when the day of doom comes you mindless Prius buyers"
I think it would be in the best interest of most that this generally interesting chat don't be turned into a 4chan flame war babble
Also you seem to the think the "interests" of the many should supersede the will of the individual.
This doesn't seem very American to me.
E.G. The Catholic Church is "the many", their "interests" are converting individuals. Thus, everyone converting to Catholicism is in the "interest of the many" and should be implemented herewith.
No I think individuals are beholden to their state and Federal laws. What I described was a matter of individual liberties being trod upon by the "most". Again, the interest of the most could be a great many things, which if enforced, harm the individuals right to self-determination.
he is so full of crap!!! the whole thing is a complete lie, oh hurry!!! hurry!!!! NWO....pass the bill.......... hurry.....yea steal candy from a baby, all the rewards of a high society with no remorse or empathy for all of mankind. If you think your in your not!!! watch your back because the NWO is only a few dozen..........so if you know the truth then say something before its to late!
I´m sure he could grab some control if he wanted to.. I think he is either too cowardly or greedy or some third option I dunno what.. To actually take up the fight for common people. It´s rather amazing how the halo has fallen. I never fell in love with Obama, I´m much more to the left, but he seemed to have better ideas than most and good intentions.
Now he delivers this speech, it´s still good but all I hear feels like bullshit and empty rethoric. Sadly
It kinda feels like Obama hasnt been involved much at all in domestic policy, at least not in a constructive way. Now he has done some things in foreign policy, escalating the Afghanistan war, but that escalation isnt really leading anywhere. Back on the domestic side he´s left congress to it´s own devices and with the senate being the way it is with the filibuster, nothing gets past there either. It´s a strange world, and I really wish I knew what Rahm/Obama/Axelrod are thinking
@Thealazor he has both houses and he does anything at all other than addressing minor questions like "don't ask don't tell". Not saying it's wrong it's just that the president is supposed to deal with bigger questions
Myeah you´re right that he deals with the big issues, but really domestically he´s still been somewhat absent. In the Healthcare debate it´s been held completely in congress. The white house has made one or two statements but not made any proposals or taken any real positions.
It seems to me that this white house is much less involved than the bush white house. Bush told congress what to do, which wasnt good, but that got things pushed through. Obama needs to be more engaged in congress
@Thealazor Yeah, there are big domestic issues. Healthcare being one of the biggest now. My friend just had a cauliflower ear and it cost $800 just to drain the blood!!! This isn't like this anywhere in the world! Subsidies are ruining healthcare from the inside.
Don't know what's coming now. I'm still to learn what's coming of the Tea Party movement. I hope for the best!
Yeah it´s a funny think the American health care.. Well funny is the wrong word but that´s kinda the conception here in Europe.
The tea party movement has the right intentions but they need some clear thinkers and less fundie bs.
The US in general needs a government that isnt corrupt though. I dont think it matters much wether it´s conservative, liberal or even, gasp, socialdemocrat. It just needs to have the peoples interest in mind. If not, America will have serious problems and soon
@Thealazor Maybe social democracy doesn't work in the US. I don't care about labels either but I'm just looking for some intelligence outside the major parties since I don't see them changing in a long time.
I don't think corruption is "the"problem in the US. I think they're more misguided than anything else and if they don't change now I think the people will start to demand drastic change, perhaps unparalleled in the last 100 years.
Well corruption is kind of not the right word I suppose, but the way special interests get their agenda through in US government is a major cause for problem in the US. Another problem is the lack of progress in congress. Afaik no other country has a rule that allows 41% to block majority rule. As it is now, almost nothing gets through congress because of filibusters. Anyways.. I think any western political system works, they just need to straighten up. Good night btw it´s 5 am here
COP15 is a 'member's only club' for the wealthiest high-society elites; corrupt globalists who pull the strings, the very bankster scum guilty of the majority of heinous crimes against nature and humanity.
When there is nothing left for these criminals to rape and pillage, profits alone shall not stave off hunger.
The day of reckoning is at hand, decadence and evil deeds against humanity shall not go unpunished! Occupy Copenhagen NOW!
Remove these elitist liars from the seat of global power NOW!
xlr8up 3 months ago
Chavez is right , capitalism will destroy the humanity. Obama is a puppet of the system.
lusoreis 1 year ago
criminal
sadmaniskillingyou 1 year ago
fuck all these people, maumoud, hugo, and obama all evil sell out bastards. AUTONOMY OR DEATH
negativecreep420 2 years ago
Of course you do go short on time, your master runs short on time.
RomanianWars 2 years ago
Is it just me or was his speech hollow?
marendoo 2 years ago
Nobody can assert that the time for talk is over.
alistairproductions 2 years ago
Don't judge people based on their country. Try to think of people as "Other Me's", because that is what other people are. They entered life just as you did, used there eyes to both see and cry as did you, longed for love as you, felt helpless when bullied, driven when inspired, disheartened by injustice, dispared to lose someone and then again to lose someone else.. ..this is life. That is you! Don't run "Me's" down, Inspire them to build "Me's" up. Your selling your-self short..
yellowhue30 2 years ago 2
@yellowhue30
"Other Me's".
I like that! ^^
VolcanicPenguin 2 years ago
With all due respect, Barry, when was there ever a time to talk? The man-made global warming hoaxers have used ridicule to stifle dissenters for years.
creekriot 2 years ago
"Organized Crime in Charge of EU Carbon Trade, Europol Says"
CRAPCANNONS 2 years ago
When are people going to stop taking these government officials seriously? They are frauds. Government is a coercive monopoly that imposes itself into all aspects of our lives. Every problem they intend to solve, they make worse. We are perfectly able to interact voluntarily with each other without these idiots. Without government, free competition naturally drives up quality & drives down costs for every product & service we need. It's time to leave these relics in the past.
truthadvocate 2 years ago
He is starting to believe in his own role as Messiah of the West. Copenhagen is too small to house his ego, I am afraid. I am getting very annoyed by this megalomaniac President who thinks that he can save the entire world by flying there and reading some lines of the teleprompter. He ought better to focus on the US, for he is failing in all his plans that should have brought change (maybe the US is better off with him failing).
Krifko 2 years ago
"running out of time" indeed Mr Presidente
the matrix has come apart!
marktimmer2212 2 years ago
Gradually, folks can read some Bush in Obama.
Be grateful of the "change" you voted for.
Efferts 2 years ago 2
This is pretty ironic, since president Obama is all talk and the other nations have actually ACTED upon climate change far more than the US can ever hope to.
Ikemxx 2 years ago 2
It's "better for us to chose action over inaction " is precisely what creates most trouble in the first place ...especially all this useless junk the great Americas have spread around the world, thinking of themselves as "democratic", "economically and technologically superior".
Screw your shallow superiority, I don't acknowledge your achievements.
There seems as little of a wiseman in Obama as there was a peacemaker in Bush.
Chosing the "future over the past"... what a choice, wow.
realisoph 2 years ago
Obama doesn't deserve attention. In fact, no "president" should be given much authority, don't deserve it.
"All while the danger of climate change grows until it is irreversible."
While all change is irreversible, fear of danger is not.
"America has made our choice, we have chartered our course, we have made our commitments, we will do what we say."
What a threatening picture.
Get lost with your false flag "common purposes".
How about: "It is better for us to adapt than to fight."
?
realisoph 2 years ago
The IPCC and its fraudulent and biased "research" and this proclaimed "unanimous agreement of all scientists" is not a foundation... it is the worst of what has yet been suggested as science.
Reducing emissions? Sure! CO2? Is not the issue! Fossil fuels? Yeah, don't burn them... there are better ways.
"Fighting" climate change?!? What world do you live in? That sounds more like "fighting real change" to me... you know the one as was suggested in "yes we can", Mr. Hypocrite.
realisoph 2 years ago
Maybe people could stop talking shite about "running short on time".
That choice of "get to gether or split apart" sounds just like another way of asking "Are you for us or against us?"
"whether we prefer posturing to action"
This is shallow babbling. American proactivity ...my ass.
This is not about developing vs. advanced countries.
The only thing that inceases about the "climate change phenomenon" is stupid policing of the world, covering up real problems.
There is NO accord here.
realisoph 2 years ago
what a cock sucker
Finiras 2 years ago
Obama... you fucked up really good with the war on Afghanistan... I don't want to listen to your bullshit anymore... :(
Betillo555 2 years ago 6
the problem with obama are the americans, even if he wanted to change, his people would not follow him or would just kill him as they did with JFK.
culture is requisite,
and lack of culture is a luxury.
bio-diverse nature is fundamental and equals stability
nature destruction, monoculture and oppression of the weak is doom! How come the USA with all its wealth has a lower living standard than other much poorer countries?
not to say europe,... ignorance is the worse enemy of nature!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
The "people" is not a magic entity that can act on its own, it is a collection of individuals. Therefore "they" (i.e. the American people) did not kill Kennedy (Lee Harvey Oswald). You do of course realize that man is part of nature? But also that technology is part of man. We have evolved beyond the point of being able to survive without technology (in its broadest terms, eg spear knife clothing). The return to some Garden of Eden state of nature before man is ludicrous, it never existed
Krifko 2 years ago
who is talking about garden of eden? and who told you about LHO? is that a fox news issue again?
lets face the truth! people support KMart, Wallmart and GM more than their gov. that's the problem. you think by voting every 4 years that you accomplished all your civil responsibilities. who cares about what obama does, the question is, what do US americans do for the usa and the world? consume, fat cars, luxury, drugs,. someone else is running the US and its not the gov. its its individuals!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
Your view of the US is a grotesque caricature. The US is the absolute leader in the world in science and technology. Of the top 15 universities in the world 13 are American. The US was a safe haven for democracy when Europe was in shambles. It harboured and protected the European intellectuals and culture. It was the first country in the world to acknowledge human rights in a constitution. The US has been a preserver and protector of Western culture. (I am European and ev
Krifko 2 years ago
en I realize that.
Krifko 2 years ago
come on! i respect your point of view but this was yesterday when we were still brainwashed and didn't know about the killings of the USA in latin america, asia and middle east. USA got rich finacing the two world wars, before that they were just a bunch of farmers (and trust me, they were better that way, at least morally). Consider the overwhelming majority of scientist in the USA foreigners that are easily bought from poorer countries, but the great USA population is sadly ignorant!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
you see, democracy is an illusion as long as the people are bad informed! that's the beauty of fox news and Disneyland! christ was crucified democratically! i guess native americans had a greater notion of democracy than the US americans have today! switzerland has had a democracy for almost 1000years (women not really included) and what about greece? many cultures invented that before the USA, lets not give them all the credits. (historians, please back me up!)
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
having bigger airplanes and tanks doesn't make them leaders, europe has better health and school systems. your noble price winners are naturalized aliens! switzerland has the highest percapita noble prices, europe has much more students/inhabitants and in average better Universities (hundreds and gratis) instead of just a few elite schools (60k usd/year) and a lot of really bad universities (20k usd/y), i am worried for the us! if they go down, they will try to take the rest with them!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
Please check the '09 Shanghai Rankings, the US puts Europe to shame. There you can see the statistics on education. The US was a industrial power long before WOI. Millions and millions Europeans migrated to the US during this period because they could build better lives for themselves. They did not get rich by funding wars, nor where they ever an Imperial power like most Europeans countries. They nearly devastated an industrial empire by saving Europe.
Krifko 2 years ago
this ranking is really criticized, of course it doesn't take in account many important parameters. it sets importance in noble prizes and field medals and publications on USamerican magazines. consider that f.ex Obama got a peace noble price for the only fact of being black i guess,... anyway, the ranking discussion is to large. but dont forget a harvard students pay 47k USD/year ! guess masters even more! sound strange.
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
Wilson saved Europe from a catastrophe. Then again young men were sacrificed for the freedom of Europe in WOII. The US did not invent democracy, it perfected it with their 18th century constitution and set an example for the world. The US is the oldest democracy. It was not the first, but it has lasted for over 230 years. Longer than any country in the history of the world. The US has more medical innovations than ALL other nations combined.
Krifko 2 years ago
and by the way, i am not defending europe, these guys are also very materialistic and polluting. USA not imperial??? come on,.. USA stole half of mexico (texas and california), what is it these guys are doing in wars all over the world?
democracy??? with kkk running it or what?
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
America stole half of Mexico? Who did the spainards take Mexico from? The Indians. Land has been conquered all throughout history by different nations different tribes and you want to blame America for one more land grab? Mexicans are just as guilty as Americans if thats the way you see it.
Fishstix9000 2 years ago
Killing and steeling is as old as mankind, yet this doesnt make it a good thing to do! US americans killed the Indianans just as the Spanish did. Spain learned something and stopped colonialism, imperialism and has a social gov today, yet the USA keeps on killing and looting the planet! Open your eyes amigo! USA is an empire, not a democracy!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
One reason why healthcare cost are high in the US is the high level of innovation. European countries then benefit from the sacrifices that the Americans have to make. Also it has more nobel prize winners in medicine than all nations combined.
They do have a lot of nobel prize winners who are foreign-born. But they came to the US because they were protected from the Nazis and could live in peace and freedom. They became more American than any American.
Krifko 2 years ago
health care innovations,.
another difficult discussion,
ex: greece,... they have no innovation at all compared to USA, yet their life expectancy is higher than that of USamericans. what is this overweight story all about? if you keep the people sick, they pay! if you keep them healthy they need no innovation! its actually quite simple! USAs average life expectancy ranks at place 50 or 38, if you don't count small countries. money doesn't buy everything! and innovation is not measurable!
WorldEcologicForum 2 years ago
They wanted to go to the US because it protected their freedom.
The US made some mistakes. But the Europeans have to think about one thing when they blame the US: the Holocaust.
Krifko 2 years ago
Obama is the first US President to acknowledge climate change and the first to commit to action. It is limited action but action none the less. If the republicans were still in you would get nothing.
vaydo 2 years ago
mr abama your face paints a thousand word
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES
you busted the game is up
climate change is dead
motoxmainia 2 years ago
Obama is an ASS HOLE.
I say this while I still have freedom of speech.
Ianmcgregorable 2 years ago
why the heck did this guy get a noble peace prize? he's done nothing and probably will do nothing.
ashestoyoursoul 2 years ago 2
Pure bullshit, as he and the chinese did absolutely nothing to make a deal.
Those 2 and a half pages are less than worthless. It sets arbitrary goals for a future where those responsible are long dead. They should all be but i jail just for that alone.
JRBendixen 2 years ago 2
By the by, the same goes for the Danish leaders.
JRBendixen 2 years ago
"Time For Talk Is Over"
heh, nobody talks more than Obama
jsvjuggernaut 2 years ago 3
This guy is a joke, the "climate change phenomenon" what a fucking idiot. Climate Change is a natural occourance that has been going on for BILLIONS of years, it is no "phenomenon". Either hes dumb or he knows this is all a scam to get us further into world government, get us paying carbon taxes and get the population down significantly by 2020 if they get their wish. he's an idiot, he needs to learn CO2 doesnt control temperatures and the earth absorbs most of that Co2 that EVERY lifeform emits
damonsecloro 2 years ago
@damonsecloro
Oh I get it. You're probably one of those "climate change deniers". Have you read any of the scientific research done on the topic? What do you think about it?
adeadlysniper 2 years ago
like i said above i do not deny "climate change" which is a natural occourance that has been going on for billions of years even before the existance of man, im saying the global warming hysteria that people like you and your ilk spew is a total LIE. If you look at the ice core samples and go back a few million years you would figure out that global cooling on earth is more of a threat to life on earth than global warming is. get the facts you brainwashed goons.
damonsecloro 2 years ago
God damn Mister Obama, please sir, please sir, I've been reading science mags since I was a kid, it has to change now or it doesn't and we die. The thing is, it'll be both the poor and the rich. We can't fix it soon enough.
shoogie06 2 years ago
Mr. Obama is good speaker but not a good leader. He doesn;t know how to get things done. His speeches are very inspirational and morivated and he promises alots of much. but unfortunately nothing works... not a man of word. wotever award gets award he gets, the infact is infront of us....
c3aki 2 years ago
@c3aki - OBAMA is nothing more than a lying bullshit artist.
intelveritas 2 years ago 3
Long live the king.
MrBankRuns 2 years ago
When he says the time for talk is over is he being ironic? Is this part of his new stand up comedy act? All this guy has done is talk! Lets have some action O!
doctender77 2 years ago
Is Obama really a member of the secret service protecting President Rothchild and Bush? Where can I see the WHOLE SPEECH.
jusrhymzisprince 2 years ago
Yes most definately. New world order. Are country has been hijacked by globalist not good for Americans.Good by to our safe little haven we call home America. Thats why we need DR. Ron Paul.
annboylyn 2 years ago
It's so frightening how many extremely enthusiastic and interested commenters seem like they're walking in a fog, with no clue what's really happening in the world. The things they are worried about -- the insidiousness of the United Nations, the WWF, the coming revolution over the dollar, etc. -- are so far off the mark that I don't even know where to even begin to clear away some of the fog. I feel like I've failed my countrymen, and I'm SO sorry for that.
JasonMelancon 2 years ago
obama is the stupidest person ever
huyk890 2 years ago
Obama is funny when he insults my intelligence.
braxtonmandy 2 years ago 7
"The time for talk is over." Apparently it's Opposite Day in Copenhagen.
funkalunatic 2 years ago 3
When he says "We are running short on time", is he talking about the inevitable collapse of the US dollar and the revolution that will likely follow?
kja5 2 years ago 3
how about some transparency with your college records and birth certificate, obama?
the UN is built on the site of a slaughterhouse.
vicket76 2 years ago
i hate saying this but fuck you democratic poppet! WHERE IS TE CHANGE!?!?!? everything is going back or even worst than in the past years. i think when i was little in the 90's everything looked so bright. now everything looks like a cloud that everyone needs to walk trough alone bs!
xL3G3NDxsniper 2 years ago
Honestly, the more hands I see these puppet globalists play, the more and more I begin to believe in this NWO conspiracy stuff.
Has anyone actually read the treaty they are trying to get through? I did, and it ACTUALLY does create a central self-enforcing Government body. I didn't believe it till I read it myself!
God, look at this puppet (Obama) read off of his teleprompter. The dumbass probably doesn't even know what he is saying. Pathetic.
Enjoy your one world government you stupid sheep.
ZamatoElite 2 years ago
this has been cooking since 1944.
Read on Bretton Woods Conference, which shaped the world monetary order for the next +40 years.
UN is now on steroids, money flowing in under Carbon Tax fraud, UNelected UN delegates agreeing to corporate agendas set forth by greedy families of Rothschilds and Rockefellers..
It was Lord Nathan Rothschild who arranged Earth Live event to push for Global Warming agenda.
And it was Rockefellers' "Wild World Fund" that pushed extinct polar bears!
EgyptianPrinceCB 2 years ago
The World Wildlife Fund is actually primarily a project of the British Monarchy. It was founded by Nazis Prince Philip, Prince Bernhard of Holland (who, incidentally, was a card-carrying member of the Waffen SS), and British Eugenics Society president Julian Huxley.
offsprng46 2 years ago
Julian Huxley was also the head of UNESCO and won awards from Planned Parenthood...
It's amazing how the UN is tied to EVERYTHING evil and foul..
I think UN's existing site is donated by Rockefeller.. Associated Press is neatly located under the feet of David Rockefeller in Rockefeller Center in Manhattan.
EgyptianPrinceCB 2 years ago
Yes, the UN is a thoroughly evil organization, as is the Rockefeller Crime Family.
offsprng46 2 years ago
Shut it Obama. Nobody cares what you think, you puppet.
offsprng46 2 years ago
you are not everybody.
dakshinamurti 2 years ago
OK, nobody with at least half a brain cares what puppet Obama thinks.
offsprng46 2 years ago
You don't know everybody that cares. That is an unfalsifiable claim and should be discarded as unscientific.
dakshinamurti 2 years ago
Buck Ofama, Globalist garbage.
satinbarbi 2 years ago
You tell'em Satan.
Oopaack 2 years ago
University of Illinois - Cryosphere Today - Arctic Basin Anomaly Hits Bottom Of Chart - Democratic Underground / This is the sea-ice extent showing sea-ice has returned to near normal amounts and there has actually been global cooling for the last 9 yrs. It also proves there is no man-made GW ! Al Gore has been lying all along about GW with the help of Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer etc. It is a hoax to finance one world gov. ! Say no to these leftist thugs and no Crap and Trade!
Wildkkat1 2 years ago
NWO 0 People 2 -- swine flu vaccine and now carbon tax , maybe they showed their hand too fast Oh and obama hussain what a auto-cue fool ,what a joke
tonythatjesusloves 2 years ago
How can you move forward when the math and sci they are using was FIX to fit there need and make a profit like Hore and other has so far. Real Sci and edu the people and the change has already happen and Im a victim of that. Hell a WAR is not won in a day but only over time But they want it NOW!!!!!!! REAL SCI NOT BS SCI for profit
jlockuptj 2 years ago
@jlockuptj is the whole basis for your argument the movie "Not Evil Just Wrong"? not accusing, just curious
Leobons 2 years ago
"An acceleration of the climate change phenomenon".
Is the internet a series of tubes as well?
For fucks sake leave the science to the scientists you piece of shit Chicago lawyer.
Apsu88 2 years ago
could you please tell that to Al Gore
newusername01 2 years ago 2
Every time I see him.
Apsu88 2 years ago
Can the NWO people screaming in here without making any point stop doing that please?
Leobons 2 years ago
Why should anyone bar their own freedom of speech for your convenience?
Apsu88 2 years ago 2
@Apsu88 Nobody wants to hear "you are all sheep. you're gonna be eaten by the power of the Illuminati when the day of doom comes you mindless Prius buyers"
I think it would be in the best interest of most that this generally interesting chat don't be turned into a 4chan flame war babble
Leobons 2 years ago
"Nobody" is quite broad, especially as I and others obviously DO wish to discuss it.
Noone has mentioned the Illuminati, nor anyone having a Prius.
Keep beating down those straw men.
There was no chat until I and others began discussing the implications of this speech.
With the 4chan reference you're simply using a "Poison the Well" fallacy to dissuade honest and free discussion.
You seem to be an extraordinarily dishonest individual.
Apsu88 2 years ago
Also you seem to the think the "interests" of the many should supersede the will of the individual.
This doesn't seem very American to me.
E.G. The Catholic Church is "the many", their "interests" are converting individuals. Thus, everyone converting to Catholicism is in the "interest of the many" and should be implemented herewith.
Apsu88 2 years ago
@Apsu88 So you do think an individual should be allowed to vandalize a phone booth or a public fence just bc it's his will to do so?
I think that the interest of the most is a big issue.
Are you assuming that I am an American??
Leobons 2 years ago
No I think individuals are beholden to their state and Federal laws. What I described was a matter of individual liberties being trod upon by the "most". Again, the interest of the most could be a great many things, which if enforced, harm the individuals right to self-determination.
Apsu88 2 years ago
what ever happened to that whole universal health care thing? was that another one of Obama's "Promises"
timsartsite 2 years ago 3
he is so full of crap!!! the whole thing is a complete lie, oh hurry!!! hurry!!!! NWO....pass the bill.......... hurry.....yea steal candy from a baby, all the rewards of a high society with no remorse or empathy for all of mankind. If you think your in your not!!! watch your back because the NWO is only a few dozen..........so if you know the truth then say something before its to late!
rayjohn90501 2 years ago 2
Unfortunately Obama has virtually no control over the CORPORATE giants who will mostly have a say/action in what happens.
Fragilexflame 2 years ago 5
I´m sure he could grab some control if he wanted to.. I think he is either too cowardly or greedy or some third option I dunno what.. To actually take up the fight for common people. It´s rather amazing how the halo has fallen. I never fell in love with Obama, I´m much more to the left, but he seemed to have better ideas than most and good intentions.
Now he delivers this speech, it´s still good but all I hear feels like bullshit and empty rethoric. Sadly
Thealazor 2 years ago
@Thealazor I loved the SNL fact checking of the first year of his admin. Nothing, nada LOL
Leobons 2 years ago
It kinda feels like Obama hasnt been involved much at all in domestic policy, at least not in a constructive way. Now he has done some things in foreign policy, escalating the Afghanistan war, but that escalation isnt really leading anywhere. Back on the domestic side he´s left congress to it´s own devices and with the senate being the way it is with the filibuster, nothing gets past there either. It´s a strange world, and I really wish I knew what Rahm/Obama/Axelrod are thinking
Thealazor 2 years ago
@Thealazor he has both houses and he does anything at all other than addressing minor questions like "don't ask don't tell". Not saying it's wrong it's just that the president is supposed to deal with bigger questions
Leobons 2 years ago
Myeah you´re right that he deals with the big issues, but really domestically he´s still been somewhat absent. In the Healthcare debate it´s been held completely in congress. The white house has made one or two statements but not made any proposals or taken any real positions.
It seems to me that this white house is much less involved than the bush white house. Bush told congress what to do, which wasnt good, but that got things pushed through. Obama needs to be more engaged in congress
Thealazor 2 years ago
@Thealazor Yeah, there are big domestic issues. Healthcare being one of the biggest now. My friend just had a cauliflower ear and it cost $800 just to drain the blood!!! This isn't like this anywhere in the world! Subsidies are ruining healthcare from the inside.
Don't know what's coming now. I'm still to learn what's coming of the Tea Party movement. I hope for the best!
Leobons 2 years ago
Yeah it´s a funny think the American health care.. Well funny is the wrong word but that´s kinda the conception here in Europe.
The tea party movement has the right intentions but they need some clear thinkers and less fundie bs.
The US in general needs a government that isnt corrupt though. I dont think it matters much wether it´s conservative, liberal or even, gasp, socialdemocrat. It just needs to have the peoples interest in mind. If not, America will have serious problems and soon
Thealazor 2 years ago
@Thealazor Maybe social democracy doesn't work in the US. I don't care about labels either but I'm just looking for some intelligence outside the major parties since I don't see them changing in a long time.
I don't think corruption is "the"problem in the US. I think they're more misguided than anything else and if they don't change now I think the people will start to demand drastic change, perhaps unparalleled in the last 100 years.
Leobons 2 years ago
Well corruption is kind of not the right word I suppose, but the way special interests get their agenda through in US government is a major cause for problem in the US. Another problem is the lack of progress in congress. Afaik no other country has a rule that allows 41% to block majority rule. As it is now, almost nothing gets through congress because of filibusters. Anyways.. I think any western political system works, they just need to straighten up. Good night btw it´s 5 am here
Thealazor 2 years ago
"but I'm just looking for some intelligence outside the major parties "
Ron Paul.
Rand Paul.
Peter Schiff.
w w w (dot) ronpaulforums (dot) c o m for a full list of constitutional candidates.
kja5 2 years ago
@kja5 Ron Paul is a pretty obvious one.
I'll check it out! That's nice
Leobons 2 years ago
We need more entrepreneurs and less politicians!
Leobons 2 years ago 3
Carbon tax is designed to bring in a one world fascist government. There are more of us than there are of you genocidal fascists.
SomeBSUTubeName 2 years ago 2
Whats with the woman at the back...
Babaldira 2 years ago
And your time is running out nobama.
jmjfanss 2 years ago
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WierdmanProductions 2 years ago