Prime Minister Rudd says SORRY!

[tools18lol]

@kromando33 Yes!!! especially the ones who think its right to call people "white people"

[1962Brummer]

I saw now a lot of filmclips of this apology. my Question is  have anything changed for the Aborigin people after the Apology?

[buttchops251]

Shit argument... its simple, they got there apology and thats all they get... we give them homes to live in and they trash them... we give them free education and they dont use it to there adventage(except for the odd one) We give them low level punishments in the courts, we give them jobs, money for nothin....they dont deserve any compensation wat so ever.. Fuk em.

[Antifaman09]

Maybe someone should remove your children away from you and see how you like it, buttchops.

[tools18lol]

@Antifaman09 thats the concept.. but in different matter.

[111arjuna111]

how about fuck you. wot if we take your children and your home and leave you with nothing. what would you do you fuckin piece of low life shit.

[Swinadive]

@buttchops251 Ur comments above clearly says you are a fucking convict. Let the fire season come, I hope more like you perish. Burn Aussie Burn Oi Oi Oi.

[tools18lol]

@Swinadive dont get racist!! never call people a convict no matter what they say, many people find that seriously offensive.

[Fattboy26]

Would like to know that names of at least 5 of the stolen generation that were actually stolen. No given or made wards of the state actually stolen from a loving protecting family.

[Keruaran]

First of all, you can't impose an artificial restriction as if "wards of the state" don't count just because you say they don't. Many people were made "wards of the state" illegally and/or unjustly as part of official government policy for many decades.

And since you ask for five, here's five:

Bruce Trevorrow, Doris Pilkington Garimara, Bob Randall, Archie Roach, Eugene Lovett.

See some familiar names there ? As an Australian, you aught to recognise some of them.

[Fattboy26]

Really have any of them pursued legal action on the basis they were stolen from loving families without the express permission of those families or a guardian. If so then how come I have not heard about any claims made.

[Keruaran]

Learn to use Google...

[Fattboy26]

I have thanks. But you have not answered my question show me one Aboriginal who had been taken pursuing legal action against the Government on the sole basis that he/she was stolen. Please

[Keruaran]

Not very good at using Google then are you...

The very first name on that short list, Bruce Trevorrow, won his case against the South Australian government, was awarded $550,000 in damages and $225,000 in interest.

[Fattboy26]

Could you please show me where the Australian Federal Government or the States had any law removing Aboriginal children based soley because they were Aboriginal? If so I believe compensation is necessary. If not then why should anyone say sorry.

[Keruaran]

That is a deliberately narrow and pedantic argument which intentionally ignores well known acts passed by various state governments. It is designed to produce a negative result for the purpose of promoting your own agenda.

The Prime Ministers apology, "We apologise for the laws and policies of successive Parliaments and governments that have inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss on these our fellow Australians.", is not without a sound historical basis.

[Fattboy26]

A deliberate narrow arguement? All I have ask for is evidence. So do me and yourself a favour and dont try to be over smart. Psuedo experts are only annoying. I would like to see the Law from either Federal or any State government that said the removal of Aboriginal Children is soley based on the race. I would like you to produce 3 names of actual stolen Children who were abducted under the Governments law. So with put up or shut up.

[Keruaran]

The kind of "evidence" you ask for is as deliberately warped as your earlier, "No given or made wards of the state" restriction. You have evidence, its easy enough to Google for it. The fact that you could not even do that for the first name on the short list I gave you is revealing.

I don't believe it really matters what I post here. You aren't going to accept it anyway.

[Fattboy26]

Your right I dont tend to take well meaning left wing bullshit without any evidence seriously. I tend to ignore that.

Children today are being removed from dangerous environments where there safety is at risk can they then pursue legal action claiming they were stolen?

First stolen generation was claimed to be 100,000 then 50,000 and then 25,000 and still you cannot produce 3 names. Well done

[Keruaran]

I produced 5 names for you when you asked before. But you aren't interested in following that up yourself. You're just going to continue asking questions that are increasingly unreasonable (If you want to find out what legal firms were involved, look it up for yourself). Pretending that you're a reasonable person when you can't do a fairly simple and reasonable thing isn't really working well for you.

[Fattboy26]

Your right I was being unreasonable when I asked you for evidence. I know asking a left winger for such a small thing would result in anger. Why cant I follow the political correct line and not the facts

[nannyomi45]

kromando33 We will, in time!I'm not an aboriginal person,but have educated myself on the past; am familirar with the present,and hopefully I'll help make the future much better.Racists are only shells of a human being.They discriminate on stupid reasons-the colour and culture of another due only to skin colour-of which none of us has any control.We're accidents at birth.Nobody asked us nobody gave a thought to our collective futures.I made sure,that my sons were not racist,sexist or homophobic!

[Atriples]

It's good that we accept that what was done was very very bad. But no one has the right to apologise for, no one current can feel any great guilt.

[nannyomi45]

Atriples-Kevin Rudd said sorry on behalf of the government,not individuals.Abor.chn were still being stolen up to 1970's-that's only 30 odd yrs ago-many of these are still alive,as are those who did the 'removing'I've heard many accounts of people who were stolen & how moved they were by Feb 13.Read Reconciliation Australia's Frequently Asked Questions - online!Only removed because they were 'light black' or 'dark whites'1 child in family who looked lighter removed-siblings left behind!Destroyed

[Atriples]

So what? You can't apologise on behalf of someone else.....or do you think you can?

[nannyomi45]

Atriples-Did you even watch the Apology,& if so,did you listen to the words?The apology was made by the present PM for the governments of the past,& also an apology on behalf of the present government for the pain & suffering caused by forced removals;the pain,anguish,degradation,humil­iation,separation from parent,siblings & the extended family.And yes,it can be done,& so Kevin Rudd did as he promised on May 27 2007-the 40th anniversary of the Referendum that included abor.people in the Census,&

[nannyomi45]

Atriples-If you weren't a stolen child,descendant or? it wasn't about you.People say 'sorry' for another's pain-a simple response to the suffering of another human being.The fact is,that aboriginals were murdered,raped,pushed into occupations without pay,were not educated etc.We are benefiting from their dispossession.I personally find that abhorrent and don't have a problem saying so.If their lives were so much better,why were 6 out of 10 abused physically,& 4 out of 10 sexually abused-for yrs?

[tiddagirl]

BTW THE LAST THREE COMMENTS WERE FOR

EmelieL

UTUBETOLL

bigcalibah

Wannabe BLACKS!! HAHAHAHAHA

[Boudiicca]

Actually...her name makes perfect sense to me, perhaps because I'm not an ignoramus like yourself. Tidda = Sister...and girl...well I'm sure you've seen that word before..

[Fishmungaloyd]

I think people (if youn could call them that) that come from racist homes just have one word that means their whole family, F**KBUDDY lol

[Fishmungaloyd]

I am a mix breed mongrel of more than 8european races, I just want to say that white is not a 'race' to me, but instead, as an Australian, I think EmelieL is a disgrace to our culturally diverse Australia. To be such a RACIST PIG to our country's original people is disgusting. I agree, find somewhere else to live, this is an Island - there's plenty of international waters to tread.

To tiddagirl, Peace.

[Boudiicca]

lol, its nice to see someone else refer to themselves as a mix breed mongrel. When people ask me what nationality I am, I reply "Bitsa". :p

[Fishmungaloyd]

Bitsa: Purebred Australian! lol.

[tiddagirl]

FUCK YOU TOO CONVICT BREED!!

[afi2005]

by the way. White people are very good at stealing other peoples lands.

[afi2005]

god fuck the queen

[Boudiicca]

omg...how can you be so negative at such a positive moment? Why so much hatred? Aboriginal people have gotten nothing for free, they have had everything stolen from them...that's the truth, and that's what the apology was about...Millions of Australians felt proud yesterday, it's a shame you didn't feel the same way.

[EmelieL]

OMG you are retarded. They have their apology and now what? A billion dollars in compensation? More welfare benefits to drink away? Better health care? Better education? Why do they deserve all of that? Why aren't the "white" people of Australia able to get the same? Rudd said mutual respect. I don't see any mutual respect. And what now? Those little disgusting pricks that raped that little girl get a "get out of jail free" card? Fuck that. If it was a white person they'd be locked up already.

[tiddagirl]

You are entitled to your own opinion but yesterday had nothing to do with the brutal gang rap of that young girl.. They WILL get what they deserve..

Yesterday was a day of celebration that soooo many people was waiting for..

If u dont have anything good to say about it dont say anything at all, obviously you dont understand the full extent of it all..

SORRY

[kolalajoe]

EmelieL, stop stereotyping all Aboriginals. You wouldn't like it happening to you so stop it!

[bassshredder414]

well said, i agree

[tiddagirl]

People like you are making it bad for other White Australians who do want a differance.. Your a disgrace to YOUR OWN RACE!!

If you hate Blacks so much why do you live here & waste your time searching on Internet sites for Aboriginal issues..

Must be jealous or just petty..

Fuck off, find your own country to live in cunt!!

[bigmunnyallday]

Couldn't have said it better myself! Brilliant! Can't fathom why these dicks actively search for such issues either - baffling.

[Boudiicca]

well said Tidda

[brokensnail]

We could arguee about whos right and whos wrong but in the end im just happy to have a PM with some balls. unlike the last one with the love affair with bush :)

[haylele]

I am disgusted very sorry that the Aboriginal people were treated in such a way by our ancestors, I cannot fathom how it must feel.

All the best to the Aboriginal communities, hope this is a step forward and we start moving united in a more positive direction.

[trueblueaussietrue]

fucking Abo's and Rudd can get the fuck our for treason against there ruler the fucking Queen !! Prostest again this stupid dickhead get him the hell out of Australia !!! Abo's are a discrace to themself's and not Rudd the fuckwit has made Every Australian liable to these drug addict, homeless, unemployed bum fucking black cunts !!! RUDD YOU STUPID FUCKING DICKHEAD!!! JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST RUDD !!! GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN !

[EmelieL]

Here here!

[UPU55Y]

Hurray!

[UPU55Y]

I am voting for you next election!

[Krunt0xen]

I'm a proud white aussie and I hope you have a bunch of black men show up in a truck next time you go for a dr's checkup, rip apart all those you love in your life (if there are any), pick a religion for you and turn you into a state owned slave. Fuck it I hope they shoot your mother and father in front of you and play soccer with their fucking bodies just so you can know at your core the pain these people have known and not sneer disdainfully in your arrogance, fear & cowardice. trueblue racist

[Fattboy26]

Dont hold back tell us how you really feel lol

[bassshredder414]

YES!

[IonaMackenzie]

HAbibi !!

great to get a feel for what it was like, and love that closing image !! great stuff , THANKS,.

[EmelieL]

As if it would. Abo's think they deserve to be treated like fucking royalty. They recieve more money from the government and what do they do? Piss it up with alcohol and act like retards. I am NOT sorry for these people... they bring shit on themselves.

[claytongeorgie]

bad luck mate. you're out. we're not thinking like you anymore.

[Rug13y]

Shame the flag at the begining doesn't represent EVERYONE in this land, unlike the National flag!