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  • I had losses, in June 1983 to meet Vasili Zaitsev, walking in the park of the river Volga River Station in Stalingrad.Hi wolked slowly up and leveled when I congratulated him not knowing who it is.Vasiliy told us aboult his eye surgery that has made our fellow bulgarian- Prof.Aleksandar Alexandrov.

    Vasili HERO FOR ALL TIME WITH ALL SUPORTERS STALINGRAD.

  • He told us also that the border stood regularly trains his dog leeder.With consequently dark glasses. Greeted and parted like old friends. I was soo excited that after an hour to realize what I had met, and this was my idol in the shooting.

  • SIMO GOT HIS JAW BLOWN OFF!! CARLOS HATHCOCK II NEVER GOT HIT BY A SNIPER!!

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  • he shot across the volga river? I thought he was on the same bank,,,

  • Великий снайпер с10ноября по17 декабря уничтожил 255 германцев от рядовых до старших офицеров во время Сталинградской битвы

  • not to mention the only reason soviets win is in there numbers, 10+ million russian soldiers killed, ration goes 2:1 favoring the nazis against soviet troops in a firefight. Mosins a good rifle but head to head with a mauser a mauser takes that cake

  • The Japs were already defeated, there only island left was mainland Japan, you can say the soviets helped, but in reality the Americans took every island in the pacific, once they took Iwo Jima it was over and couldve raped mainland Japan, but dropped the nuke so theyd realize America could just wipe their existence off the face of the Earth. Soviets won the East, Americans won the Pacific, and the Allies won the War. Everyy country has dunces and ignorant people, not just in America

  • Great hero!

  • 8 dont appreciate the history of owning, nor might they harbor latent homoerotic tendencies veiled behind gun enthusiasm.

  • You

  • @keysphilip That's why it's called "WORLD WAR 2" and not "the Russian-German war".

  • @CMH251 So that was Russian-German war,rest was just the gests,only Britanics was fighting like devils,that was all help

  • @keysphilip, actually, americans are very well aware of the fact that we won in the pacific theater, and on the European western theater, and that the Russians won the eastern front. So after calling us uneducated you clearly forgot about the fight with Japan. Lol. Who's uneducated now? Moron. Lol

  • @CMH251

    One of the key factors in Japan's surrender, rarely mentioned, was the Russian offensive against them. Japanese troops broke and fled. The Red Army was the only force they would not face.

  • Its pretty dumb, that they dont even mention Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä, who used very same weapon, only modified version of it. He killed 505 Russians at -40 degree celsius in Winter War 1939, and he didnt even use scope! Just shows how uneducated yanks are. They think Zaitsev is best because hes the one they make movies about.

  • @MultiJerkku Yeah but this is the history channal, they only keep on track with ONE subject.

  • @Eshayzbra96 Well they mentioned Vasily Zaitsev?

  • @MultiJerkku That's because he was the subject?

  • @Eshayzbra96 No, snipers was the subject, Vasily Zaitsev is the name of the video.

  • @MultiJerkku Yeah and this uploader only showed the part they were talking about Vassili Zaitsev because he's a fan of him, either way, they can talk about every famous soviet sniper(if you're talking about a soviet; hence "505 RUSSIANS").

    Also Enemy at the Gates is a british film (derp) not every movie is made by America..

  • @Eshayzbra96 What you mean by "505 russians"?

  • @MultiJerkku Qutation:"He killed 505 Russians".

  • @Eshayzbra96 And? He killed 505 russians with mosing nagant and 200 more with his Suomi M31 submachine gun.

  • @MultiJerkku Arghhh never mind!

  • Russian Mosin nagant-best rifle of the war, British lenfield M2-most accurate rifle of the war and German Mauser Kar98-most widely used rifle of the war.

  • Like half of the people actually have been at the front lines and actually have shot a Mosin-Nagant? -_____- Just watch the video you ingrates.

  • Moist Nugget! <3

  • when i had my mosin, i only had problems with it

  • 1 shot one kill you mean 3 shots 3 kills he also kill his bodygaurds or whatever the fuck they were

  • he was shooting that water melon to proof bullets are killing? DOH!

  • @firebirdcas and did you here he was killing them in schtalingrad not stalingrad

  • Vassili zaitsev (Василий Зайцев) je najbolji snajperist na cijelom planetu i zahvaljujuci njemu Rusija ( SSSR ) je obranila Staljingrad ...

    Is the best sniper in the whole planet, and thanks to him Russia (USSR) defended Stalingrad ...

  • Anyone who thinks war is cool,and likes to kill people is a Moron,If anyone thinks killing is cool,or easy-either they need they're head checked-or they need to be put in an asylum-we have names for people like that in society-it's called Psychopath.

  • @scassidy0526 You are one sick idiot.

  • @scassidy0526

    you doomed yourself and your race is nothing special.

  • @scassidy0526 U.S. arms dealer was just for Lend Lease to the Soviet Union sent the lend-lease gold. If you fight me and I give you a free weapon, and you answer me in giving a free gold if I can say that I too had a winner in your war, and without me you would not have coped? Most of the lend-lease was already much later staged the battle for Moscow, when it became clear that the USSR win ..

  • @scassidy0526 You want to talk about the fact that the U.S. has helped? And what's interesting?

  • @scassidy0526 You are a liar ... I've always been amused as liars like you attributed to the loss of Russian soldiers lost civilian ... Your four million German losses were taken from the German chronicles understated ...

    Real German losses are estimated at 7 million, and this is without taking into account their allies ...

  • Вот он наш герой!!! Таких больше нет! Мы Россияне! Мы гордимся собой! Мы - лучшие!!!

  • @scassidy0526 Fuck you nazi asshole prick.

  • @scassidy0526 Your stupidity isn't endless. It wasnt Russia, it was was called the Soviet Union. It was a very big country compared to Germany. No wonder that it had more causalities.

    If you know history right Stalin killed all high ranked soldiers in Russia and when the war started it was bad for the Soviet Union.

    Neo Nazis you find in every country nowdays, so stop telling anyone that Hitler was right. 12.000 million books of Mein Kampf were sold, but not read by the Germans!

  • @scassidy0526 Zaitsev fought for his country and survival - a soldier is a soldier... But seriously it is sick how white women fuck black guys like crazy,Fucking pisses me off - Even all our Russian women going to America just so they can fuck black guys. Yeah it pisses me the fuck off man

  • @SashaVedernikov Its okay, its normal to be jealous 'cause you've got a tiny dick.

  • @SashaVedernikov haha yeah White American men have a saying "once they go black you don't want em back" They get off fucking animals it's a taboo. Black males call them "white honky fuck bitches"

  • 7 persons was killed by vassili xD

  • @Hammered001 Really? You wanna stand in front of my Mosin Rifle while your at it?

  • @SashaVedernikov I will bring my mosin too. I would like to smash his fascist hammered head.

  • @matthewHizzle da, we will all

  • @SashaVedernikov ...Sasha you ask questions that cannot be answered and make statements none can varify. Why did you run away from our exchange by closing the comments section? I offered you a draw; honours even. I do not understand why. You have had some memorable experiences and own a Mosin-Nagant rifle aswell; all in one so young. Kiev is such a beautiful city but Babi-yar is so sad and emotional. Maybe as an historian you will be able to visit European battlefields in the future.Regards

  • @SashaVedernikov Can i help too .I'll get my ppsh 41

  • @SashaVedernikov Da, comrade. kill him.

  • @Hammered001 you just mudak! Belive me!

  • @Hammered001 the dog who barks does not bite...

  • @Hammered001 @Hammered001 And a Mosin isn't something you actually want to deal with.

    FYI communism ended in 1991(soviet unions end)

  • @Eshayzbra96 Very grateful for important info you sent me that I already knew, boy.

  • @Hammered001 Then why call him a commie? Girl.

  • I have a mosin nagant :D. Great rifle, fun to shoot, and full of history.

  • yeahbaby241

  • @famguydabestlol yep 500 or so confirmed using his finnish m28 Mosin-nagant

  • Mosin Nagant will always be one of my favorite rifles. I have owned an authentic, near perfect condition for many years. I have always wanted to shoot it at the range but i fight the urges so that i can preserve a great part of history. I doubt the rifle will ever be worth a lot of money but it does not matter. They made so many that they became worthless. What matters is the history behind this rifle.

  • you know I read his books and many more Soviet(translated) snapire book. The techniques are unusual, but rather then normal they worked perfect for me, compared to other books published. So I guess I own the Soviets a thank you :) for futher advance and enjoyment of my hobby.

  • i dont care if i get a good new age mosin nagant. those are just bull shit. i recently bought one that was made in 1943, was made by Izhevsk and has markings all over it. but it is counterbored, the frame is scratched up all to hell, the paint chips a little, and isnt very accurate. i got it for 99 dollars, all of these traits are what made the price so worthless, this rifles value is probably 150 dollars, but to me; its worth 150,000.

  • what a surprise a american telling someone else's history!!

  • Every bullet is a killer numbnuts.....

  • A legend.

  • What is the name of the documentary?

  • @ASoldierBlack its like Halo, good for you if u killed 20 people with grenades, the other killed 15 with all of them headshots by the sniper rifle

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  • all the people that are speaking of aimbot and wallhack: get a life stupid MW2 fucks

  • Zaitsev terrorized the German led European Unionists. Great stuff !!!!

  • i really wish zaitsev wasn't so over studied, shoot there were wayy more snipers in the red army than just zaitsev and quite a few more successful than zaitsev throughout the war, i really must say though, the M91/30 and M91/30 sniper model (PE, PEM, PU) are probably one of the best if not the best infantry rifle that were ever made, you've got a bascically indestructable rifle, a round that matches the US 30-06 almost perfectly and in the right hands it's pin point accurate

  • @24GordonFan223 Indeed,There sniper's in Stalingrad just as good as Zaitsev if not better,Chekhov,Abzalov,Kalenti­ev,Medvedev,Kostrikov - so many guy's that people dont pay attention too

  • @SashaVedernikov I'd like to read up on them. Do you have links or first names I can look up. I've often wondered how others stacked up.

  • @24GordonFan223 yeah but if you've seen the movie he befriend a commisar and he puts vassily so popular he made the russian poparganda to recruit more soldiers and eventaully a lot of soviets wanted to be snipers because of this legend thats why not many snipers arnt as famous

  • @24GordonFan223 The Nagant was slightly inferior to the US and German sniper rifles in accuracy,but it was accurate enough for the type of sniping they were doing with it at Stalingrad. Truth to tell,the scopes in use back then were a more limiting influence on accuracy than any minor differences in the rifles.

    The Nagant was brutal when it came to recoil,though. Maybe even worse than the SMLE. Both were this way due to the stock designs.

    Many Nagants were made in the US by Winchester.

  • @bender138 the recoil is no different between a Lee-Enfield or a Mosin, (BTW a Nagant doesn't have a stock, as the Nagant is a revolver), properly trained the scope made little difference. Also the Mosin-Nagant M91/30 has very mild recoil, compared to the carbines, as I shoot mine regulary, as for Mosin's being made in the US, New England Westinghouse and Remington made a ton under contract druring ww1 as well as the French factory of Chatellerault,

  • @24GordonFan223 You use Mosin as a shorthand name and I use Nagant. Big freaking deal.

    I'm calling bullshit on the properly trained nonsense. A scope may not make much of a difference at 100 yards on targets out in the open,but it makes a huge difference if you are doing things like shooting at a target hidden behind a firing slit or partially concealed some other way.

    I have never fired a M91 rifle,only the carbine. The carbine recoil is comparable to a SMLE carbine,maybe slightly worse.

  • @24GordonFan223 BTW,I still have the M91 carbine I brought back from VN. I picked it up near Kontum. Besides being made in the US and France they were also made in North Viet Nam. I say this because the serial number on my carbine is 200.

    I have owned and fired the M91,Springfield,M1 Garand,Mauser,and SMLE. The M91 is a good rifle,but in no way superior to any of the others. The Garand was in a class of it's own,and nothing else came close. Not even the Springfield.

  • @bender138 thabk you for your service, but they were supplied by the soviets & Chinese militaries to the NVA, and i own soviet firearms from WW1 to now as well as a M1, a Canadian made Rifle, No.4 Mk1*, and a K98k mauser to name a few, outside of the M1 as the M1 truely is in a class of its own, my Mosins shoot just as well as my mauser and No.4 @ 100 yards, and my No.4 is a tack driver and has groups just barely larger than my M1, BTW sounds like u and I have a great deal in common

  • @24GordonFan223 what do you think about the german sniperr t\rifle the karg98 i think thats my favorite ww2 weapon

  • @rolf85000 amazing rifle! a little difficult to zero, but i love 'em,

  • When i go into Russian military im going to ask for the Mosin with a scope

  • @Gidenkidenk they still hand them out

  • @EmperorMidget that is awesome!!!

  • pretty big kill count. A guy from norway had the most kills for a sniper in WW2, something like 500 confirmed and another 500 unconfirmed, he did it all with iron sights aswell

  • @windofthegods yep, Simo Hayha

  • omg this is a legend

  • at Call of Duty 2 multiplayer to me its a big honor to wear his name

    eX|Team|Zajcev

  • Trust me, Zaitsev didn't even need a scope. I just hit a target 1,000 yrds away with the same rifle, iron sights. Unbelievable accuracy and unbelievalbe muzzle velocity. My question to you is, if a scope is available and it may mean your life, why not use one!?

  • @crawsj50 Business not in a sight.

    The matter is that Stalingradsky fight - the first large-scale city fight.

    And Zaycev became the founder of tactics, dodges and the general principle of action of sniper group in city conditions.

    P.S. There are memoirs Zaycev's, advise to esteem.

  • один выстрел-одна смерть...стыдно что пиндосы знают наших героев а мы их забываем...именно пиндосы сняли фильм о Зайцеве. пусть местами карявый но факт на лицо...

  • brazil, sou fã desse vassili zaitsev

  • @SashaVedernikov only Nationalbiocrafy says that and if that is true its still pretty nice count he only used M28.

    Most sources still claim 500+ kills whit rifle and 200+ whit submachinegun

  • @RabidRat88

    I'm pretty sure any sniper is far more brave then some ass leaving retarded messages on youtube, in any case.

  • What kind of weapon was used zaitsev .?

    How much worth ..?

    If there is

  • In Stalingrad he used a "Mosin Nagant PEM sniper" rifle,an original will be about $5,000 but you can get an original more common Mosin Nagant PU sniper for $800

  • @SashaVedernikov You can get a Mosin Nagant for under $100 here in USA.

  • @saudicarzy Mosen Nagant

  • he killed allot of axis soldiers and he is i think the best sniper

  • @Fickotincek Best? Better look up a guy named Simo Hayha. He dropped two Russians for every German Zaitzev took out.

  • Nobody doesnt know the real ammount of troops killed by my granpha ...But he did use a mosin nagan at the start. untill he get a newer version..

  • lol your saying Zaitsevs your grandfather? he didnt have any children,only a stepson...

  • @SashaVedernikov no bvut his wife did lol

  • @SashaVedernikov lol, in Russia ALMOST all grandpas - was with Mosin Rifle

    War 41-45 ALLLLLLLL

  • @bigpapy33 haha , good one.

  • @bigpapy33 Oh come on that is the same when i say that Vassili Zaitsev is my YOUNGER brother ahahahhahahahahhahaha.

  • SashaVedernikov said...

    'There's always some dick fuck out there like you - I have many American friends who are interested in Russian history. You however are the typical Fake patriot wannabe who has never done shit for his country and just sits on your ass all day,Go get an education,Fucking 15 year old Zit faced grocery bagging cunt'

    I say 10/10...good comments!

  • zaitsev is my hero :)

  • @usarmy115511 me too! hes my idol! =D

  • I thought he used a 1942 model Mosin-Nagant.

    Learn something new everyday I suppose.

  • don't you love how there is always one guy that insults people cause of their homeland, and has the balls to call someone stupid when they obviously can't understand grammar in their own language on a third grade level.

  • There's always some dick fuck out there like you - I have many American friends who are interested in Russian history. You however are the typical Fake patriot wannabe who has never done shit for his country and just sits on your ass all day,Go get an education,Fucking 15 year old Zit faced grocery bagging cunt

  • @SashaVedernikov Yep, 99% of yanks think WW2 was won by America. But it was won by the Russians, plain & simple. Americans are generally so uneducated about anything that has happened outside their own U.S. State. One yank came to Kiev recently - chasing Ukrainian girls, as usual - and he visited the WW2 'Eastern Front' war memorial on Pechersk hillside, and he commented; "Hey, why are there no American tanks or U.S. army photo's here, from when the U.S. liberated Kiev?" :-D

  • vasili k/ d 10 : 0

  • Glory to Vassili

  • @CCCPSovietSoldier GUNNERY SGT. CARLOS NORMAN HATHCOCK 2 ---THE BEST SNIPER EVER.

  • @BubbaLee2 The Gunny was the man but he was beat out by another Marine sniper Chuck Mahwhinney and an army sniper named Waldron. Hathcock was the man for pulling other wounded Marines off of a burning Amtrack while he himself was on fire.

  • it was an m91/30, not an m91

  • he used wallhack probably

  • lol

  • @dra23D lol yeah ^^

  • @dra23D That Wasn't Funny.

  • @dra23D haha nice one.....FUCKING N E R D

  • @dra23D haha very funny.....FUCKING GEEK...go play counter strike along with the other 18 geeks...

  • @MrNousmeister1 sure, on your channel black ops gameplay and u callin me geek =), classic, just classic =)

  • @dra23D who said i didn't play black ops u douchebag??? But i dont go in real sniper videos and say fake things....YOU GEEK...so try thinking first before talking

  • @MrNousmeister1 but how he killled all that many soldier without hacks o.O??

  • There are many was for snipers to ID targets.

    1. Spotters/Spotting scopes. But in zaytsev case he most likely used his rifle scopes.

    2. Binoculars, however they may have been reflective so most likely he relied on his rifle scope again.

    Snipers are the grunts of stealth. They kill and then move to a new location. Staying in one place and making mulitiple kills is a huge mistake sonner or later the enemy is gonna catch on tou there dumbass trick and lower the boom on them.

  • 1# Mikhail Surkov - 702 Kills!

    2# Vasily Shalvovich - 534 Kills!

    3# Ivan Sidorenko - 542 Kills!

    Zaitsev had 400 +Kills, there were better Sniper as you can see but ALL of them were Soviet Heroes !

  • zaitsev has had a movie made about him which makes him look good.

  • well he was good!

  • @SovjetPhoenix

    He became so famous not cause he killed lots of people but because he killed over 200 enemies only in 1 battle in Stalingrad and became national hero inspiring soviet soldiers to fight and terrifying enemies. Also he killed famous german ace sniper Konig. Then he got injured and got to hospital - thats why he didnt kill more enemies then Surkov and others.

  • @SovjetPhoenix these Numbers sounds like russian propaganda O_o if I guess right Simo Häyhä was the soldier with the most confirmed kills!

  • @VirusPF Simo Häyhä was one of the most feared Snipers during the Finish Winter War. But he wasn't the one with most kills! It sounds crazy but Mikhail Surkov really existed and he wrote a Letter to his son when he made his 702nd Kill.

  • @SovjetPhoenix i hope all those kills are comfirmed and not just some shit probaganda you write...

  • @stefan123234 Only dead Nazis are good Nazis! No mather if Surkov or Zaitsev, both of them did a great job during WW2. And no, this is not Propaganda...or do you think that Snipers like Ludmilas Pavlichenko are propaganda, too?

  • @SovjetPhoenix There were no "Fair" army in ww2 and sovjet isnt better... im just saying that does sound like probaganda ...

  • @stefan123234 nope they are not confirmed. its obviously just another case of a propaganda-soviet trying to sell lies as facts. and youtube community wont doubt it anyways.

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  • @SovjetPhoenix fuck you. the names you quote dont even exist and even if they did they would have not achieved more than 500 kills.

    best sniper ace of all time was simo häyhä with 505 confirmed kills. so fuck you liar

  • @SovjetPhoenix @SovjetPhoenix mikhaill surkov 704 BULLSHIT CCCP PROPAGANDA STORY!!

    !!!

  • @raippaluoto This is JUST your Opinion...no worth and no "weight"...

    Fact: We maganed to wipe a lot Nazis out :D

  • @SovjetPhoenix Forget Simo Häyhä?

  • @wojak100 He was good but not the best ;-) By the way as I said only the dead Nazis were good Nazis.

  • @SovjetPhoenix Most of it was propanganda. Just like on the german side. It was war, mate. There was nothing glorious to it. Now calm down, shut up and show some respect for the dead on both sides after all they were just soldiers.

  • @3vegemite I have only Respect for Soldiers of the Red Army!

  • @SovjetPhoenix The you are clearly a weak-minded, weak, moronic, whimpy wuss. Any soldier of skill and intellect respects even his enemy. Only cowards, fags and little double-crossing, backstabbing rats don't. But that's not warrior spirit. That's the spirit of a 14-year old virgin...

  • @3vegemite Thats the Spirit of a Man who would fight ONLY for Russia although I'm living in Germany now. I see the difference between them & us every day. The german Generals like Erwin Rommel were genius, the job he have done will never be forgotten but he was a Man of Honor and not one of those sick Retards who killed innocent People on the Way trough Poland to Russia! I have no respect for Soldiers like the SS. They were weak-minded & believed in nothing but SHIT!

  • @SovjetPhoenix But you have to understand it in the context of time it happened in. I'm not defending the SS. Fact is though...Russians did the exact same things. Cruelty to innocent cilvilians, shooting their own soldiers if they wanted to fall back (not even retreat, but fall back- as a tactical matter): They raped and killed kids and women along the way into central Europe. I mean kids- they don't even understand anything about politics- neither could they have done any harm to anyone yet.

  • @3vegemite We killed our Soldiers because Retread wasn't acceptable! Russia would fall if all red Army Soldiers would run away from the enemy so they pushed them to the very end. Yeah they killed a lot German Civilians on the Way to Berlin just like Brits bombed Dresden which was more terrible than the nuclear Strike on Hiroshima. There are everywhere good & bad Soldiers, they also were in the US & British Army. USA prooved how sick they were when they nuked Japan twice.

  • @SovjetPhoenix But as I explained: This was war. And in war, there are no good and no bad ones. It just is. I don't know, if you ever served, but I you did, you would know that a lot of times you have to make some pretty tough decisions to ensure the safety of your men and yourself. Of course I know that modern day skinheads have nothing but shit in their heads. But that's a different matter. Back then-on both sides they were soldiers trying to do their jobs- to frontline men it's never politics

  • @3vegemite I know, sometimes you have to choose between beeing a Beast and Kill or staying human and die because the enemy know no Mercy. Thats a good Mindset if you're in War like Chechnya or Afghanistan.

    Skinheads are real dumbasses no matter where they're from especialy the russian Skindhead because they also praise Hitler & thats unacceptable!

  • @SovjetPhoenix Yeah, but see that's exactly what I meant. Horrible things were done back then. But the past is the past and today we, the western civilization (I include Russia here- I think we basically all have the same mindset and needs nowadays, The US and EU shouldn't treat Russia as a foe anymore and Russia should also see the EU and US as their friends and allies-I figure that would be a great and poerful combination) Yeah I know about those Russian skinheads, they're totally retarded.

  • @3vegemite Well spoken, but it's not that easy. USA messed some things up lately. They supported Georgia to attack South Ossetia (They knew about Saakashvili's Plan). They also trained georgian Forces. So how can Russia trust the US? Then there's the Point about Afghanistan. As you can see, Russia have Problems with Extremists & Heroin. USA didn't changed a thing yet. Oh and by the Way, Heroin Productions are run by Wali Karzai, it's Hamid Karzai's Brother who cooperate with the US.

  • @SovjetPhoenix I honour the dead on both sides of WW II. The Russians were jsut as brave as the German soldiers, and I'm talking about the guys in the field. They gave their lives and I honour them. Luckily the conflict is over, it's a new generation. We should forgive but not forget and move on as allies. My family is of Russian and Swedish/German origin. So I have people in my family who faught on either side. The bottom line is: they were all humans with the same fears, wishes and dreams.

  • @3vegemite I have French & German Origin, my Ancestors settled down in Russia about 400 Years ago. They served under the Tsar many years and were wealthy, People of Honor. It's hard to forgive but we have to accept what happened. Maybe I'll learn to respect the dead on both sides but it's not easy. You're right, they all were humans although some of them didn't act like Humans! Same on Soviet, British & American side.

  • @SovjetPhoenix Yeah, I totally understand that. Sadly the US government at the time doesn't seem to make a move towards accepting Russia as friends and allies. I say I'd be about ime for the EU to break loose from any political ties and make the first step towards Russia and reach them their hands (metaphorically speaking). I don't necessarily understand why the US acted this way, but it certainly must be old grievances. It's time to let them go now. We've got other things to worry about.

  • @3vegemite I would be glad if EU would stop beeing a US Puppet just like right now. I mean, look at Afghanistan, this isn't EU's War but we have even German Troops out there and made few losses. Russia is very important for Europe just like Europe is very important for Russia! USA is important too, but Russia have a higher priority in my opinion (Russia supply many Countrys with Gas/Oil, USA don't). US is a important Business Partner but should stay on the 2nd Place. (my Opinion)

  • @SovjetPhoenix In troubled times like these with international growing terrorism, religious fanatism and so forth our western way of life, our culture, the musical heritage and all the artworks, all of that is at stake. I think it would be about bloody time to join up. We are a new generation of people. We can move on, forget the old bitterness and work together; We'd make a pretty effective alliance. Forgive, yet not forget. And teach our future generations how to and how not to go about.

  • @3vegemite I agree with that. I wouldn't teach my Children beeing against USA or Germany just because some bad things happened in the Past. I would try to make the best of it so the new Generation can be better than ours right now. Many People use prejudices against other Countrys/Nations and that another Point that we should change. There will be always good and bad People in every Country but wouldn't it be better if there are more good than bad People? ;-)