Large profits are obscenely un-American, except when enjoyed by George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, Hollywood stars,the Clintons, the Kennedys, and other liberals
Tax cuts are wrong when money is returned to people who actually paid taxes, but perfectly fine when sent to those who paid none.
Dont redistribute my wealth, redistribute my work ethnic
It's hard for me to respect poster children for a lying politician.
Joe will never own his company. He's one of the 47% of people that John McCain is proud to talk about; the percentage that chooses not to pay their taxes, but run up credit to buy companies that he cant afford. And not flip that bill either.
He's one of these people that doesn't want to pay his taxes, but bitches when the American economy is falling apart. Buffoon.
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, owes the state of Ohio $1,182 in personal income taxes, according to tax records that show a lien for that amount filed against him in January 2007.
Joe doesn't HAVE a plumbling license
Joe would stand to save on taxes under Obamas plan
The business Joe is lying about buying makes $100,000/year
Again the McPain bandwagon are backing a loser- First Bush 90% of the time-then Palin the Dumbtard, and now a tax-evader.
McPainists=LOSERS->real Conservatives hate your guts.
Where has ambition in America gone?We need more Joes.Joe is saying I have worked hard for 15 years at my job,saved money,it's my dream to OWN and GROW this business,this guy isn't saying I wanna sit around,do nothing all day,and collect a welfare check.This country was built on those who WANNA work hard,and have dreams.Joes are the ones who grow the economy and CREATE the jobs.I didn't feel that sense of unbridled ambition in Obamas words,like I did with Joe.Spread ambition,wealth will follow.
Most Americans (police officers, fire fighters, nurses, teachers, janitors, social workers, students, secretaries, psychologysts, etc) DO NOT make more than 250K a year and that make up 95% of Americans. Their taxes won't be increased under Obama's plan.
McSame , ON THE OTHER HAND, wants the MAJORITY of people to pay taxes and give the richest of the rich (CEOs and corporations) tax breaks.
If you are NOT as wealthy as Bill Gates, Obama is your man.
I think it is amazing that within 24 hours of this story breaking ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,New York Times,Washington post etc etc... knew EVERYTHING about Joe!!!!!!! They even knew he had corn in his shit!
But Barry hussein O has been running for president of the United States and nobody knows a damn thing about him, HHMMMMMMMMMMMM Very interesting. Is there anybody out there with a brain that can figure that the left wing media is ON HUSSEINS' side!!!!!! Just wondering.
Hey do your research...once again this is the problem with the right wing extremists.His name is Sam.his middle name is Joe...he is not a plumber he works for one. he is not even an apprentice.He is no where near buying the 2 employee business which only makes 100,000 a yr and would not be affected by Obamas tax plan.The guy hasnt even paid his own taxes.This is all pulic record and fact.And he is so "hard working" that he couldnt even complete his 2003 apprenticeship that he applied for!
McCain thinks we're all a bunch of peons! For the past 8 years wealth was spread around FROM THE POOR TO THE RICH! Our 401K's are almost gone, our homes are going into foreclosure, banks R going bankrupt! They didn't call it taxes this past 8 years, but the cost to the middle class has been devastating! Want to know who are the guilty here? FOLLOW THE MONEY, it is most likely in REPUBLICAN'S HANDS!
u dear are a fucking asshole!!!bill clinton obama forced u to go against fundamental law that u dont spend beyond your means,u bought houses u could not afford,the market crashes and ur still an ignorant fuck.obama and cronies request 700 bailout which will wipeout every person's savings bcoz of u fucking assholes u still fail 2 c how yo ass is contrinuting to your own downfall.u want obama to tax the rich,guess what the rich will fuck u in the ass with an increase in prices till it bleeds!!!
dude is telling a lie-he was not getting ready to buy a thang. he couldn't even afford to buy a good piece of ass with his stupid ass! if this guy was black, he would not be on all of these shows and so on. dude is not even a plumber! joe ur an ....
dude is telling a lie-he was not getting ready to buy a thang. he couldn't even afford to buy a good piece of ass with his stupid ass! if this guy was black, he would not be on all of these shows and so on. dude is not even a plumber! joe ur an ....
even if he did lie, there still are people out there just like he pretended to be. that does not change that fact. people who get out and WORK for money, should not have to give it away to people who dont. yesterday while i was at the grocery store guess what i saw, a person paying with one of those wellfare cards. then guess what. she leaves the store, and gets into her ESCALADE!!! this was a chick who blew her money on her car and now needs help buying food. they need to learn.
OBAMA'S PLAN FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS "As a small business owner who claims small business income on your individual tax return (whether through a sole proprietorship, partnership, or S-corp) you pay individual income taxes only on your NET INCOME — or profit — not on your firms gross revenue. Accordingly, when Obama says that he would roll back the Bush tax cuts for all couples earning more than $250,000 a year... only net income that a small business owner takes home."
the title is wrong Wurzelbacher is not even a business owner and doesn't even have a license to practice plumbing and he also owes the state 1000s in back taxes
"How do you justify taking money ...etc." - That's a false characterization. Wealthier people have advantages in terms of tax policy that Middle Class people don't have, so in effect they pay a lower tax rate all around than Middle Class people as a rule. So by increasing the top tax rate you are mostly bringing that unfair advantage back in line.
We've had a progressive tax since the 1800's until Bush dismantled it 8 years ago. Reinstate it to balance the budget.
How do you justify taking money from someone who busts his ass, and giving to someone who is not as fortunate. The American dream is to come here and prosper, not pay for someone elses shit because you busted your ass. Whether he was staged or not, it's a good question and deserved a good answer...it was a good answer, just not the right one.
Well, if you did make that much, would you want to be taxed higher, and have your "wealth" distrubuted? If you do, so be it...I just don't think it's right.
I am a obama supporter but i do agree with joe. My family makes around 250,000 a year, we still struggle alot. the reason being that we own our buisness and have to pay workers, which makes our wealth go down to middleclass. And personally that tax with effect us directly, having 6 people in the house hold and more mouths to feed. this plumber is just trying to start and new and i dont think he should be punished
If you make $250,000 why are you supporting Obama? I am also a small business owner. My company makes well over $250,000. If Obama wins this election I will need to start laying employees off just to stay in business. Don't people understand this?
I would love to hear your reason for an Obama vote because I cannot see any. He's a very shady character.
Gross for my company but show me were it states $250,000 NET. Is it on Obama's site? It didn't use to be. And even if it is Net and not Gross it doesn't matter, there are plenty of small companies who earn $250,000 net that I personally know. Why should they give their money to someone who didn't earn it. I was hoping to work to that net income also but that American dream will be gone if your O wins! You want me to put my co name on here? your as crazy as Obama!
$250,000 NET income is in the IRS code. You get to substract all your expenses. So under Obama's plan, you are better off than McCain as for McCain you are NOT the wealthiest of the wealthiest. $250,000 net income does not represent the majority of Americans. (most Americans are nurses, teachers, psycholists, small business owners, janitors, soldiers, policce officers,etc and they DO NOT make more than 250k net income and trust me, they work hard or harder than you and represent 95% of America
so under obama's plan from 0-250 you WON'T pay more taxes.Under McCain,u will pay more as he wants to give tax break to CEOs and corporations(we r talking about Giants,not small business owners)
Everyone earns their money,u think the policeofficer or teacher does not "earn" his money?its a matter of paying them what they deserve & giving them tax breaks for them to have a better life.
I know how the IRS classifies net, I didn't ask you about the IRS code so what are you talking about? So again, where does the big O say it's net and not gross? This is what I want to see.
You say people work harder than me. You don't even know what I do. Who are you to make that comment. Get a life. I will not reply to anymore of your comments so save it. I will not change my mind on who I vote for.
u can whine like an inmature teeanger all u want but I am giving FACTS.U are the 1 who will be affected by McCain,not me, as Im making the right choice.
U implied anyone who does not make more than 250K is lazy and I proved you wrong. I never said they work harder than you,I said they work hard OR harder than you which is a FACT AND do not get to bring 250K a year.
The IRS code IS THE LAW and the IRS code says people should be taxed at NET not GROSS.
I know I said I wouldn't reply to you again but I just saw your big O on TV 12:10pm 10-22-08. You are so very wrong about the $250K net. He said "A business who generates $250K" GENERATES being the key word here. So I say it again, if your co makes (gross) over 250k we will be taxed much higher. Watch out folks if you work for a small business and vote for the big O you will be voting yourself right out of a job!
The IRS code is the law. Imagine if I have a business makine 250k and my expenses are
300k, then I have a minus, I am broke and unable to pay taxes. That is why you get to SUBSTRACT all your expenses from your gross income and call that your NET(what u take home).
If you make 250K and have the expenses of
100k, then your net income is 150K so you fall into the 150K bracket.
I'm working to make a profit, and a nice one at that. You cannot compare your figures to my co figures. Your way off. Thanks for the yellow pages hint (give me a break). Bottom line, people will lose their jobs under the big O.
Oh Yes the Dems did a great job! Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office! The republicans tried to stop this before it became to bad but the dems shot them down! And who was one of the biggest receivers of money from the mortgage bankers? Um,I think it was the big O. Yes, I'm sure of it. Do your research.
==Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office!==
1. Dem's can't actually pass any laws, since they need 67+ senate votes to pass anything. That means getting 1/3rd of Senate Republicans to agree. Aka, it's been gridlock for the past 2 years.
2. Rick Davis, McCain's top campaign guy, is the OFFICIAL head top lobbyist representing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
3. Rick Davis received millions of dollars from them all the way up till a few months ago.
==Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office!==
Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000
A bill segment constructed by McCain's top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, and slipped into a larger budget bill.
In particular, the allowance of Credit Default Swaps.
An unregulated form of "Loan Failure Insurance", where the insurance dealer was NOT required to actually have enough money in reserve to actually pay it.
The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.
Obama wants to give all our money away. Some help is fine but this is ridiculous! Aren't we in debt enough! COUNTRY FIRST
CAPITAL GAINS TAX MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change) OBAMA 39.6% INCOME TAX MCCAIN (no changes) OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) INHERITANCE TAX MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA * New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet * New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) * New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) * New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least.... * New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
the fact is BaltimoreSandra, all the things you sais are NOT facts.
i told you about the yellow pages because you don't seem to understand how taxes work.
Socialized medicine? what are you talking about now? you make no sense.
People can be that ignorant to believe on your claims and the worse is that you are so stubborn, you are supporting a candidate that is going to ruin you economically just like the past 8 years.
Get more informed, McCain supported the bail out and the war
I understand taxes very well. It's not just about the GROSS or NET being taxed. Look at his overall tax plan. You need to get YOUR facts right.
I have a family member who is a former county councilman (democrat)and is also an accountant. He has made it very clear to me that if the big O wins this election we are all in a world of trouble. So don't call me stubborn. Did you know O voted against saving babies who were born alive from an attempted abortion? Research it, see for yourself.
==Did you know O voted against saving babies who were born alive from an attempted abortion? Research it, see for yourself.==
He voted against that bill because that partial birth abortion part was already Illinois state law.
What he disliked is the other part of the bill because it "Interfered With The Physician-Patient Relationship And Greatly Expanded Civil Liability For Physicians"
first of all, are you gay like your name states? Is this why you are voting for the big O? Hmmm. Not a good reason to vote a non qualified pres into office is it?
Please see comments for greyflcn I would like your opinion on this also.
are you a redneckkk? is that why you are voting for McCain.
I can't believe your post but that is how square republikkkans are, what my sexuality has to do with anything here?
I don't need to be gay to protect certain groups from discrimination. But a republican like you is to narrow-minded to understand that. You just implied that I just vote for Obama cause i am gay? that show how stupid and predujice you are
i find it hard to believe a 3% tax hike will hurt you if thats true so i will assume you are full of BS. what are your gross margins, 6%? you must be selling rubberbands. gimme a break
Find another Youtube post that just shows what Obama and this guy Joe said to each other. Make your own decision then. Make your own decision instead of having Neil make it for you.
Obama ... all the way ... NO to MaCPain ... MacInsane ... and do you really think that Gov. Palin is a role model? -- Obama/Biden will bring the total... positive change we need.
Obama/Osama 08! Wow! The only positive change Obama and his radical left wing will do is 2 take all your hard earned money and spread it around 2 some lazy ass people out there. Obama presidency is more like a communist country. Everything got 2 b run by the big govt., and they will tell us how 2 live and how 2 eat and where we can work or how much money we can earn.
how is joe the plumber going to have any work is poor aloosing their homes . guess what joe the plumber everyone is broke. u live in america you have e right to make as much as you want.250k pus but your employers will mke minimum wage thats great .
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out this guy was hired by rove. It's testimony to how ill informed the public is about the candidates' economic plans that Faux can pass off this heavily edited soundbite and people might actually believe it. I hope people are smarter than that. Don't get your news from just one source. To make an informed decision, you need information.
Fox News. Absolutely ridiculous. Who cares about Joe Wurzelbacher's financial theories? He barely said five words during the full exchange, yet Fox commends him for resisting Obama's 'star power'. If you listen to the whole thing, Obama gives (yet another) clear, concise, and well reasoned argument.
I'm someone who falls into the 250K+ group. I'm an independent. I don't like paying taxes. But guess what, our country's in debt, and we all have to chip in.
Fox news motherfuckers...its edited...watch the whole 6 minute video..O gives a detailed explanation...tax is not on the gross income...its on what he takes home...Joe the plumber takes 250,000 home?
OK...I watched the whole video on another channel. It is still no more than spreading the wealth around!! Obama's "cuts" are really "welfare" that people will receive who have no interest in working hard! Please watch "Herman Cain: Barack obama is bad for the economy."
wow this stupid fox news overlay destroyed the incredibly well spoken response that Obama really gave to the plumber. go se the real 5 minute video without the fox bd and decide for yourself - instead of letting Fox news ruin it
There is absolutely no doubt that Obama will tax each and every one of the 60% of Americans who pay income taxes. This will be equal to hardworking Americans, already taxed to the hilt, writing a check to the unproductive and lazy 40% for doing nothing. Obama's principal objective is redistribution of wealth. This will result in nothing but "trickle-up poverty".
Why can't we get a candidate that can own this socialist prick like this? He nailed Obama to the wall in about 10 seconds! Mccain has had two debates already.
every contractor in the country will attest to what Joe says. If you work hard, you make money, buy a new truck, pay your suppliers, HIRE another guy, make payroll, file & pay taxes, liability insurance, health insurance, licensing, and hire a CPA so the IRS doesn't screw you. Every step of the way the gov't throws up road blocks. So i think the plumber dude deserves to reward himself.
It's a shame that so many of you don't understand that the Government creates MORE of everything it subsidizes. The Government has been subsidizing the poor for decades. Has Poverty been eliminated? Obama and other like-minded Marxist/Socialist Do-gooders operate on Class Envy and believe in FORCED EQUALITY.
You do realize that 35% of 100,000 is much more that 20% of 40,000, right? You need to check your math buddy.
Also, doesn't Obama want to repeal the "Bush tax cut" thereby raising taxes on the middle class before he says he'll redistribute and cut them? What about the 30% of people who pay zero taxes now, do you still call that a "tax cut?" handout? welfare? stimulus? mulligan?
I want to see you in a future if you have a medical problem - heart attack or other surgery and get to pay thousands of $s and not being able to work , loose your house , than you maybe will appreciate the government help. We need those programs. All small business can't do any business if their customers are poor. Bush created more poor people than ever.75%of US GDP comes from consumer spending. If you have poor customers every business- small big will be in a problem.
You need to take off your surgeons mask and get some oxygen. I'm sure then you can collect your "loose" thoughts and not lose your point. (what is it exactly?) Are you selling AFLAC?
Of course we need government help. Of course we want everyone to succeed. Bush did not create any poor people.
millions of people work from home, go to college online, and make money with an ebay business. what about medical billing from home? all you have to do is LOOK.
is it just me, or are there way too many people who can't figure out basic life principles? Asians and mexicans come here with NOTHING and within weeks they have cash in their pocket, and within a few years own their own nail salon or landscaping business.
Be Independent-
July 4th is Independence DAY. what does that mean to you?
Crazychick, and I don't know why I'm even bothering:
Of course Bush is at least in part at fault for the problem. Both parties are. There is no denying Clinton's hand in making it possible in the first place for lenders to loan money to deadbeats (in the name of racial equality... umm.. I mean wellfare), nor Democrats consistent position to defend the decision. Again, It's simple history, don't shoot the messenger.
Again, Brilliant, UGOTDAJACK. Taking from the rich to give to the poor is Marxism. I don't make the rules. Go back and read some history, genius.
And you're right, unfortunately, it looks like "The Chosen One" will be the first Socialist president of the United States... or at least since Carter...
And finally, jeez, try spell-check. What, do you have a 2nd grade education or something?
That's hysterical- You don't really know what Obama said, it was cut out, its all according to "joe the plumber". Smells like typical FOX propaganda and theater.
They didn't play it again because it's all over the news and everybody's already seen it. Obama said something along the lines of "I don't want to punish your success, I just want to spread the wealth so that the people behind you have the opportunity for success, too." The operative term being "spread the wealth" which is of course socialistic. If history tells us anything it's that when the government sticks its hands in our pockets, it ALWAYS causes trouble. Think Jimmy Carter.
The US is already socialistic. It is probably more socialistic then countries you think are socialist. It is impossible to live in an organized society without some degree of socialism. Joe may have more opportunity in the UK since at the end of the day he may pay a little more but his and his employees health care are retirement is paid for. The anti-socialism argument is misguided. Maybe we should call them "freedom services"
PS- Obama is not Carter. And I still don't believe FOX news or neocons. They have proven time and time again to be liars. After 8 years of fake FEMA news conferences, sketchy intelligence reports and tell-all former white house spokesmen- I don't see why anyone should be expected to believe anything these people have to say.
Yes people, don't believe your eyes and ears... we will tell you what to believe.
Give it up, not working. It says something when wanna be fellow travellers come to comment on FOX videos. Why not post the entire interview as a response? Mind you what he says is what he said, feel free to change that.
If Obama doesn't win the election, he can look back at Joe Plumber from Ohio as the model of great aplomb and common sense. This guy is more convincing than all the politicians combined.
Hey, George Orwell was right. With Obama, just like Big Brother, 2+2=5. We see this with taxes and voter registration. "2 legs baaaad, 4 legs good, very good."
I feel this dude's pain but your going to have to be taxed because of what that asshole George W. Bush did to the economy. That hole won't be dug out on its own with our already expanding national debt.
The real issue being discussed here is the fact that Senator Obama came right out and used the term "spread the wealth around" (I don't believe this particular clip shows that portion of the conversation, but it is what they are discussing and it can be seen elsewhere on youtube). This is important because that is a strong catch phrase for socialistic ideals. In the past, Obama has been pretty careful to avoid such blatant phrasing of his ideology.
Brilliant CrazyChick... Play the Bush card... very original... You libs are like little dolls that you pull the string and one of five, rehearsed, anti-George Bush statements come out... blah blah blah
So you don't think Bush is the reason why we're in this mess...of course its the conservatives way to blame Nancy Pelosi and the democratic congress when its the republican white house that screwed up our economy. Vote for him once shame on you, vote for him twice you're a dumb ass.
Why should I answer your question if you have yet to answer mine and mine was asked first? Also, you're going off topic. I'm talking about Congress, not Bush.
if you dont see the trade center attacks as a reason to fight a war i dont know what you think would be.
it's not our fault that you arent as successful as others so you feel free hand outs should be given to all of the people who do nothing. 40% of people dont even pay taxes and they will be getting our hard earned money as checks in the mail. go vote for a socialist and prove to everyone you care more about yourself than your country just like all of the obama supporters will.
You're wrong. I agree we should have fought a war for the trade attacks....IN AFGHANISTAN!!! The republicans lied to you when they said Al Queida was hiding in Iraq. We are blowing billions a month on this pointless war for "freedom" and that is one of the main reasons why we're in this situation to begin with. And having another republican who supports the war in Iraq is NOT good for the economy. We need to be spending billions here in the United States not over in another country.
thats interesting. if you werent so blind to whats going on in the worl you would know the al queda leaders told us that iraq was the center of their operations and still attack us everyday. i do think the war should focus more on afghanistan yet a war on iraq is crucial too
First it was going to Iraq because their were WMD's, now its because a fictional Al Queda leader told us they were hiding there? Make up your mind republicans!
Waste of money, and I don't think anymore Americans need to die over there. Time to bring them home and focus on protecting the country, not trying to liberate another.
Say all you can on Bush; Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are amongst the all time great IDIOTS in Congress. Pelosi will have a tough reelection run against Cindy Sheehan. What else does she do but act like the proverbial bitch on Capital Hill ?
kind of like how you idiotic repukes love to claim Obama is a marxist or communist? lol...it's clear to see that that clown was and always will be a republican and that's the ONLY reason Faux Noise brought him on for a follow up. Do you really think that if he was going to praise Obama's plan he would have the oppertunity to come on and say it? lol...come on, come on, come on! Socialist or not, Obama WILL be your next president weather you like it or not.
Asshole Bill Clinton left us with the IT bubble-burst which Bush inherited from the freakin' Demo's (that's all they are Demo's, the full version are the Republicans) and now trying to blame it on Bush!
Umm, Clinton left America with a surplus from creating new jobs that focused on the growing need for technology...while with Bush we're left us with a deficit.
You need to re think that crazy chick. At the end of the Clinton administration the economy was on a big downturn. Bush and Gore were arguing about a surplus that was disappearing. A surplus is when you take in more revenue than you spend; if you spend the same and take in less, it's a deficit.
Well guess who would report this kind of garbage? i bet the bitch works for FOX News!
zairoxs 10 months ago
This discourages "Joe" from hiring people, which goes against him trying to create more jobs.
ConservativeRev 1 year ago
Joe the the faker played all you dumb motherfucker.OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!FUCK JOE
demarsha5 3 years ago
Large profits are obscenely un-American, except when enjoyed by George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, Hollywood stars,the Clintons, the Kennedys, and other liberals
Tax cuts are wrong when money is returned to people who actually paid taxes, but perfectly fine when sent to those who paid none.
Dont redistribute my wealth, redistribute my work ethnic
Avatarblackwolf 3 years ago
i am a far-right wack job republican that hates socialism and thinks its an evil nazi like idea that will turn us into a third world country.......
now if you'll excuse me, im gonna go cash my "SOCIAL" security check which supports me till the die that I day.
666bushisnazi666 3 years ago
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It's hard for me to respect poster children for a lying politician.
Joe will never own his company. He's one of the 47% of people that John McCain is proud to talk about; the percentage that chooses not to pay their taxes, but run up credit to buy companies that he cant afford. And not flip that bill either.
He's one of these people that doesn't want to pay his taxes, but bitches when the American economy is falling apart. Buffoon.
Joe, thank you for not paying your taxes.
Inspirational!
VAR1UM 3 years ago
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, owes the state of Ohio $1,182 in personal income taxes, according to tax records that show a lien for that amount filed against him in January 2007.
Joe doesn't HAVE a plumbling license
Joe would stand to save on taxes under Obamas plan
The business Joe is lying about buying makes $100,000/year
Again the McPain bandwagon are backing a loser- First Bush 90% of the time-then Palin the Dumbtard, and now a tax-evader.
McPainists=LOSERS->real Conservatives hate your guts.
slizzler1 3 years ago
Where has ambition in America gone?We need more Joes.Joe is saying I have worked hard for 15 years at my job,saved money,it's my dream to OWN and GROW this business,this guy isn't saying I wanna sit around,do nothing all day,and collect a welfare check.This country was built on those who WANNA work hard,and have dreams.Joes are the ones who grow the economy and CREATE the jobs.I didn't feel that sense of unbridled ambition in Obamas words,like I did with Joe.Spread ambition,wealth will follow.
scotters201 3 years ago
"Small business owner"?? Plumber's helper! Unlicensed plumber's helper.
ToughSlr 3 years ago
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FACT:
Most Americans (police officers, fire fighters, nurses, teachers, janitors, social workers, students, secretaries, psychologysts, etc) DO NOT make more than 250K a year and that make up 95% of Americans. Their taxes won't be increased under Obama's plan.
McSame , ON THE OTHER HAND, wants the MAJORITY of people to pay taxes and give the richest of the rich (CEOs and corporations) tax breaks.
If you are NOT as wealthy as Bill Gates, Obama is your man.
COPY & PASTE
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
I think it is amazing that within 24 hours of this story breaking ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,New York Times,Washington post etc etc... knew EVERYTHING about Joe!!!!!!! They even knew he had corn in his shit!
But Barry hussein O has been running for president of the United States and nobody knows a damn thing about him, HHMMMMMMMMMMMM Very interesting. Is there anybody out there with a brain that can figure that the left wing media is ON HUSSEINS' side!!!!!! Just wondering.
ohh2clever 3 years ago
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Hey do your research...once again this is the problem with the right wing extremists.His name is Sam.his middle name is Joe...he is not a plumber he works for one. he is not even an apprentice.He is no where near buying the 2 employee business which only makes 100,000 a yr and would not be affected by Obamas tax plan.The guy hasnt even paid his own taxes.This is all pulic record and fact.And he is so "hard working" that he couldnt even complete his 2003 apprenticeship that he applied for!
itgetsdeeper 3 years ago
You people are sheep...he is not a business owner!
itgetsdeeper 3 years ago
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McCain thinks we're all a bunch of peons! For the past 8 years wealth was spread around FROM THE POOR TO THE RICH! Our 401K's are almost gone, our homes are going into foreclosure, banks R going bankrupt! They didn't call it taxes this past 8 years, but the cost to the middle class has been devastating! Want to know who are the guilty here? FOLLOW THE MONEY, it is most likely in REPUBLICAN'S HANDS!
helterskelter35 3 years ago
u dear are a fucking asshole!!!bill clinton obama forced u to go against fundamental law that u dont spend beyond your means,u bought houses u could not afford,the market crashes and ur still an ignorant fuck.obama and cronies request 700 bailout which will wipeout every person's savings bcoz of u fucking assholes u still fail 2 c how yo ass is contrinuting to your own downfall.u want obama to tax the rich,guess what the rich will fuck u in the ass with an increase in prices till it bleeds!!!
sshapewa 3 years ago
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Mr. Wurzelbachers only crime is that his question happened to cause Mr. Obama to let slip his socialist vision for all of us.
McCain-Palin 2008
PediaNurse35 3 years ago
dude is telling a lie-he was not getting ready to buy a thang. he couldn't even afford to buy a good piece of ass with his stupid ass! if this guy was black, he would not be on all of these shows and so on. dude is not even a plumber! joe ur an ....
0101TAZ 3 years ago
dude is telling a lie-he was not getting ready to buy a thang. he couldn't even afford to buy a good piece of ass with his stupid ass! if this guy was black, he would not be on all of these shows and so on. dude is not even a plumber! joe ur an ....
0101TAZ 3 years ago
even if he did lie, there still are people out there just like he pretended to be. that does not change that fact. people who get out and WORK for money, should not have to give it away to people who dont. yesterday while i was at the grocery store guess what i saw, a person paying with one of those wellfare cards. then guess what. she leaves the store, and gets into her ESCALADE!!! this was a chick who blew her money on her car and now needs help buying food. they need to learn.
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OBAMA'S PLAN FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS "As a small business owner who claims small business income on your individual tax return (whether through a sole proprietorship, partnership, or S-corp) you pay individual income taxes only on your NET INCOME — or profit — not on your firms gross revenue. Accordingly, when Obama says that he would roll back the Bush tax cuts for all couples earning more than $250,000 a year... only net income that a small business owner takes home."
beamerdreamer 3 years ago
All Barack Hussein Obama wanted 2 do is 2 take most of your hard earned money and give it 2 some lazy ass people out there. Wow!
peakarach 3 years ago 3
I think Bradley effect will give McCain/Palin ticket at least 10 points.
peakarach 3 years ago
the title is wrong Wurzelbacher is not even a business owner and doesn't even have a license to practice plumbing and he also owes the state 1000s in back taxes
abasi2008 3 years ago
"How do you justify taking money ...etc." - That's a false characterization. Wealthier people have advantages in terms of tax policy that Middle Class people don't have, so in effect they pay a lower tax rate all around than Middle Class people as a rule. So by increasing the top tax rate you are mostly bringing that unfair advantage back in line.
We've had a progressive tax since the 1800's until Bush dismantled it 8 years ago. Reinstate it to balance the budget.
agalligani 3 years ago
How do you justify taking money from someone who busts his ass, and giving to someone who is not as fortunate. The American dream is to come here and prosper, not pay for someone elses shit because you busted your ass. Whether he was staged or not, it's a good question and deserved a good answer...it was a good answer, just not the right one.
gaisee 3 years ago
I dont make anywhere near 250K... Thats a nice problem to have if you ask me... Askme when I get and see how greedy I am then... lol
So... Long and short... The middle class are pistons running this engine we call America.. Thats the reason we HAVE AMERICA! GO OBAMA!! 08
carlosg5071 3 years ago
Well, if you did make that much, would you want to be taxed higher, and have your "wealth" distrubuted? If you do, so be it...I just don't think it's right.
gaisee 3 years ago 2
Wow, they completely cut out Obama's answer to the thing.
megadeth425 3 years ago
Joe IS a planted Republican con-man the McCain campaign wants to use to discredit Obama's Tax Plan.
louis4louis 3 years ago
I am a obama supporter but i do agree with joe. My family makes around 250,000 a year, we still struggle alot. the reason being that we own our buisness and have to pay workers, which makes our wealth go down to middleclass. And personally that tax with effect us directly, having 6 people in the house hold and more mouths to feed. this plumber is just trying to start and new and i dont think he should be punished
bobalink2006 3 years ago
If you make $250,000 why are you supporting Obama? I am also a small business owner. My company makes well over $250,000. If Obama wins this election I will need to start laying employees off just to stay in business. Don't people understand this?
I would love to hear your reason for an Obama vote because I cannot see any. He's a very shady character.
McCain/Palin 08
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
do you really make over $250K net income? meaning after your expenses and playing your employees?
can you please post the name of your business as I would like to verify that and many people would like to verify that too.
and besies people who earn 250K NET INCOME (BRINGS HOME) are less than 2% of Americans. 95% of Americans DO NOT bring home 250K NET INCOME / CASH.
Most nurses, psychologyst, teachers, nurses, students DO NOT MAKE 250K
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
ASLO, most small bussiness owners DO NOT make 250K a year.
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
Gross for my company but show me were it states $250,000 NET. Is it on Obama's site? It didn't use to be. And even if it is Net and not Gross it doesn't matter, there are plenty of small companies who earn $250,000 net that I personally know. Why should they give their money to someone who didn't earn it. I was hoping to work to that net income also but that American dream will be gone if your O wins! You want me to put my co name on here? your as crazy as Obama!
McCain 08
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
$250,000 NET income is in the IRS code. You get to substract all your expenses. So under Obama's plan, you are better off than McCain as for McCain you are NOT the wealthiest of the wealthiest. $250,000 net income does not represent the majority of Americans. (most Americans are nurses, teachers, psycholists, small business owners, janitors, soldiers, policce officers,etc and they DO NOT make more than 250k net income and trust me, they work hard or harder than you and represent 95% of America
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
@BaltimoreSandra
so under obama's plan from 0-250 you WON'T pay more taxes.Under McCain,u will pay more as he wants to give tax break to CEOs and corporations(we r talking about Giants,not small business owners)
Everyone earns their money,u think the policeofficer or teacher does not "earn" his money?its a matter of paying them what they deserve & giving them tax breaks for them to have a better life.
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
I know how the IRS classifies net, I didn't ask you about the IRS code so what are you talking about? So again, where does the big O say it's net and not gross? This is what I want to see.
You say people work harder than me. You don't even know what I do. Who are you to make that comment. Get a life. I will not reply to anymore of your comments so save it. I will not change my mind on who I vote for.
The big O has you fooled like many others.
Enjoy your hard working day.
McCain/Palin 08
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
@BaltimoreSandra
u can whine like an inmature teeanger all u want but I am giving FACTS.U are the 1 who will be affected by McCain,not me, as Im making the right choice.
U implied anyone who does not make more than 250K is lazy and I proved you wrong. I never said they work harder than you,I said they work hard OR harder than you which is a FACT AND do not get to bring 250K a year.
The IRS code IS THE LAW and the IRS code says people should be taxed at NET not GROSS.
Obama/Biden08
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
chrissup19isgay:
I know I said I wouldn't reply to you again but I just saw your big O on TV 12:10pm 10-22-08. You are so very wrong about the $250K net. He said "A business who generates $250K" GENERATES being the key word here. So I say it again, if your co makes (gross) over 250k we will be taxed much higher. Watch out folks if you work for a small business and vote for the big O you will be voting yourself right out of a job!
Vote NoBama
McCain/Palin 08
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
@BaltimoreSandra
The IRS code is the law. Imagine if I have a business makine 250k and my expenses are
300k, then I have a minus, I am broke and unable to pay taxes. That is why you get to SUBSTRACT all your expenses from your gross income and call that your NET(what u take home).
If you make 250K and have the expenses of
100k, then your net income is 150K so you fall into the 150K bracket.
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
if you don't believe me, before you vote, go to ur yellow pages and make an appointment with an accountant
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
I'm working to make a profit, and a nice one at that. You cannot compare your figures to my co figures. Your way off. Thanks for the yellow pages hint (give me a break). Bottom line, people will lose their jobs under the big O.
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
==Bottom line, people will lose their jobs under the big O.==
Bottom line, Democrats know how to create jobs. Republicans don't.
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greyflcn 3 years ago
greyflcn:
Oh Yes the Dems did a great job! Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office! The republicans tried to stop this before it became to bad but the dems shot them down! And who was one of the biggest receivers of money from the mortgage bankers? Um,I think it was the big O. Yes, I'm sure of it. Do your research.
vote McCain/Palin 08
Palin will clean house once elected the new VP :)
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
==The republicans tried to stop this before it became to bad but the dems shot them down!==
You're talking about the, Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
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What that bill would have done is entirely remove SEC oversight Fannie/Freddie.
Instead, they would be regulated by an entirely new organization, which would mostly likely be staffed entirely by Republican political appointees.
Aka, a lot less oversight and enforcement than the SEC. (Which Bush cut it's budget 40%)
greyflcn 3 years ago
==Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office!==
1. Dem's can't actually pass any laws, since they need 67+ senate votes to pass anything. That means getting 1/3rd of Senate Republicans to agree. Aka, it's been gridlock for the past 2 years.
2. Rick Davis, McCain's top campaign guy, is the OFFICIAL head top lobbyist representing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
3. Rick Davis received millions of dollars from them all the way up till a few months ago.
greyflcn 3 years ago
==Just look at the mortgage problem we have now due to the socialist dems in office!==
Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000
A bill segment constructed by McCain's top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, and slipped into a larger budget bill.
In particular, the allowance of Credit Default Swaps.
An unregulated form of "Loan Failure Insurance", where the insurance dealer was NOT required to actually have enough money in reserve to actually pay it.
Greenspan admits these were catastrophic.
greyflcn 3 years ago
greyflcn:
I disagree with what you are saying.
Can you explain this too?
S2433 threatens US Sovreignty-bill sponsor Obama
The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.
Obama wants to give all our money away. Some help is fine but this is ridiculous! Aren't we in debt enough! COUNTRY FIRST
McCain/Palin 08
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
==Can you explain this too? S2433==
Yeah, he mentioned in the debates that he'd probably have to skip that, due to the current economic crisis.
greyflcn 3 years ago
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
the fact is BaltimoreSandra, all the things you sais are NOT facts.
i told you about the yellow pages because you don't seem to understand how taxes work.
Socialized medicine? what are you talking about now? you make no sense.
People can be that ignorant to believe on your claims and the worse is that you are so stubborn, you are supporting a candidate that is going to ruin you economically just like the past 8 years.
Get more informed, McCain supported the bail out and the war
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
I understand taxes very well. It's not just about the GROSS or NET being taxed. Look at his overall tax plan. You need to get YOUR facts right.
I have a family member who is a former county councilman (democrat)and is also an accountant. He has made it very clear to me that if the big O wins this election we are all in a world of trouble. So don't call me stubborn. Did you know O voted against saving babies who were born alive from an attempted abortion? Research it, see for yourself.
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
==Did you know O voted against saving babies who were born alive from an attempted abortion? Research it, see for yourself.==
He voted against that bill because that partial birth abortion part was already Illinois state law.
What he disliked is the other part of the bill because it "Interfered With The Physician-Patient Relationship And Greatly Expanded Civil Liability For Physicians"
fightthesmears. com/ articles/15/wildaccusations
Do your research.
greyflcn 3 years ago
chrissup19isgay:
first of all, are you gay like your name states? Is this why you are voting for the big O? Hmmm. Not a good reason to vote a non qualified pres into office is it?
Please see comments for greyflcn I would like your opinion on this also.
BaltimoreSandra 3 years ago
@Baltiomore Sandra,
are you a redneckkk? is that why you are voting for McCain.
I can't believe your post but that is how square republikkkans are, what my sexuality has to do with anything here?
I don't need to be gay to protect certain groups from discrimination. But a republican like you is to narrow-minded to understand that. You just implied that I just vote for Obama cause i am gay? that show how stupid and predujice you are
chrissup19isgay 3 years ago
==Please see comments for greyflcn I would like your opinion on this also==
Sure.
"Do Small Businesses pay taxes on their gross revenues or their net income?"
"What if I am a Small Business owner — How will Obamas tax plan affect me?"
taxcut. barackobama. com/ sb_faq.html
greyflcn 3 years ago
Who gives a shit if he's gay? What are you the sex police?
VAR1UM 3 years ago
i find it hard to believe a 3% tax hike will hurt you if thats true so i will assume you are full of BS. what are your gross margins, 6%? you must be selling rubberbands. gimme a break
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ObamaForMiddleClass 3 years ago
Find another Youtube post that just shows what Obama and this guy Joe said to each other. Make your own decision then. Make your own decision instead of having Neil make it for you.
woodsrider117 3 years ago
Obama think is O.K for him 2 spread your hard earned money around for some lazy ass people out there. People,we must stop Obama now.
NO WAY! NO HOW! NOBAMA!
peakarach 3 years ago
Obama ... all the way ... NO to MaCPain ... MacInsane ... and do you really think that Gov. Palin is a role model? -- Obama/Biden will bring the total... positive change we need.
Iluvre 3 years ago
Obama/Osama 08! Wow! The only positive change Obama and his radical left wing will do is 2 take all your hard earned money and spread it around 2 some lazy ass people out there. Obama presidency is more like a communist country. Everything got 2 b run by the big govt., and they will tell us how 2 live and how 2 eat and where we can work or how much money we can earn.
NO WAY! NO HOW! NOBAMA!
peakarach 3 years ago
how is joe the plumber going to have any work is poor aloosing their homes . guess what joe the plumber everyone is broke. u live in america you have e right to make as much as you want.250k pus but your employers will mke minimum wage thats great .
RICOMIKE1973 3 years ago 2
macstu, it's good to read your comment. Facts instead of bad populism.
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agnostikus 3 years ago
face to obama, and fuck u losers that defend obamas dumbass. cant wait to see u lose in a month! :)
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boycottfoxnews2008 3 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised to find out this guy was hired by rove. It's testimony to how ill informed the public is about the candidates' economic plans that Faux can pass off this heavily edited soundbite and people might actually believe it. I hope people are smarter than that. Don't get your news from just one source. To make an informed decision, you need information.
stealth63 3 years ago
Obama 08
kai0shin 3 years ago
Joe Plumber planted by Fox News, heh
pfqueen2007 3 years ago
Fox News. Absolutely ridiculous. Who cares about Joe Wurzelbacher's financial theories? He barely said five words during the full exchange, yet Fox commends him for resisting Obama's 'star power'. If you listen to the whole thing, Obama gives (yet another) clear, concise, and well reasoned argument.
I'm someone who falls into the 250K+ group. I'm an independent. I don't like paying taxes. But guess what, our country's in debt, and we all have to chip in.
Obama and Biden! 2008!
ortmanm 3 years ago
Go ahead give all your hard earned money 2 Obama,so he can spread your money around for some lazy ass people out there.
peakarach 3 years ago
Fox news motherfuckers...its edited...watch the whole 6 minute video..O gives a detailed explanation...tax is not on the gross income...its on what he takes home...Joe the plumber takes 250,000 home?
gramatoncleric2105 3 years ago
This is worrisome. I agree with Joe the Plumber that Barack's answer was strongly socialist. Yuk!!
And then there is Palin. She has a higher chance of becoming President than Biden. Equally, Yuk, too!!
TakeAbackPak 3 years ago
OK...I watched the whole video on another channel. It is still no more than spreading the wealth around!! Obama's "cuts" are really "welfare" that people will receive who have no interest in working hard! Please watch "Herman Cain: Barack obama is bad for the economy."
Becky8771 3 years ago
Here is the full discussion between Obama and that gentleman..
hear it all from the horse's mouth, sans talking heads
watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA
crock703 3 years ago
wow this stupid fox news overlay destroyed the incredibly well spoken response that Obama really gave to the plumber. go se the real 5 minute video without the fox bd and decide for yourself - instead of letting Fox news ruin it
tnarwhale 3 years ago
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There is absolutely no doubt that Obama will tax each and every one of the 60% of Americans who pay income taxes. This will be equal to hardworking Americans, already taxed to the hilt, writing a check to the unproductive and lazy 40% for doing nothing. Obama's principal objective is redistribution of wealth. This will result in nothing but "trickle-up poverty".
Schwarznasen 3 years ago
Why can't we get a candidate that can own this socialist prick like this? He nailed Obama to the wall in about 10 seconds! Mccain has had two debates already.
Plumber Guy/ Palin 08'
pimpdalyrical 3 years ago
Plumber Guy/ Palin 08'
RIGHT ON!!!
THE GUY ROCKS.
every contractor in the country will attest to what Joe says. If you work hard, you make money, buy a new truck, pay your suppliers, HIRE another guy, make payroll, file & pay taxes, liability insurance, health insurance, licensing, and hire a CPA so the IRS doesn't screw you. Every step of the way the gov't throws up road blocks. So i think the plumber dude deserves to reward himself.
libs are so ignorant about business.
chardonnay1 3 years ago
It's a shame that so many of you don't understand that the Government creates MORE of everything it subsidizes. The Government has been subsidizing the poor for decades. Has Poverty been eliminated? Obama and other like-minded Marxist/Socialist Do-gooders operate on Class Envy and believe in FORCED EQUALITY.
Tyranny in America will come from the Left.
PositivelyVague 3 years ago 2
Kadocke,
You do realize that 35% of 100,000 is much more that 20% of 40,000, right? You need to check your math buddy.
Also, doesn't Obama want to repeal the "Bush tax cut" thereby raising taxes on the middle class before he says he'll redistribute and cut them? What about the 30% of people who pay zero taxes now, do you still call that a "tax cut?" handout? welfare? stimulus? mulligan?
AV84USA 3 years ago 3
I want to see you in a future if you have a medical problem - heart attack or other surgery and get to pay thousands of $s and not being able to work , loose your house , than you maybe will appreciate the government help. We need those programs. All small business can't do any business if their customers are poor. Bush created more poor people than ever.75%of US GDP comes from consumer spending. If you have poor customers every business- small big will be in a problem.
RTSOKOVA 3 years ago
RTSOKOVA,
You need to take off your surgeons mask and get some oxygen. I'm sure then you can collect your "loose" thoughts and not lose your point. (what is it exactly?) Are you selling AFLAC?
Of course we need government help. Of course we want everyone to succeed. Bush did not create any poor people.
AV84USA 3 years ago 2
millions of people work from home, go to college online, and make money with an ebay business. what about medical billing from home? all you have to do is LOOK.
is it just me, or are there way too many people who can't figure out basic life principles? Asians and mexicans come here with NOTHING and within weeks they have cash in their pocket, and within a few years own their own nail salon or landscaping business.
Be Independent-
July 4th is Independence DAY. what does that mean to you?
chardonnay1 3 years ago
Barack Obama succeeded in boring me and scaring me at the same time!
Barack needs to add a sickle and hammer to his logo and pseudo-seal
AV84USA 3 years ago 3
Crazychick, and I don't know why I'm even bothering:
Of course Bush is at least in part at fault for the problem. Both parties are. There is no denying Clinton's hand in making it possible in the first place for lenders to loan money to deadbeats (in the name of racial equality... umm.. I mean wellfare), nor Democrats consistent position to defend the decision. Again, It's simple history, don't shoot the messenger.
bigsprinter 3 years ago
Again, Brilliant, UGOTDAJACK. Taking from the rich to give to the poor is Marxism. I don't make the rules. Go back and read some history, genius.
And you're right, unfortunately, it looks like "The Chosen One" will be the first Socialist president of the United States... or at least since Carter...
And finally, jeez, try spell-check. What, do you have a 2nd grade education or something?
bigsprinter 3 years ago
That's hysterical- You don't really know what Obama said, it was cut out, its all according to "joe the plumber". Smells like typical FOX propaganda and theater.
connorsmacartist 3 years ago
They didn't play it again because it's all over the news and everybody's already seen it. Obama said something along the lines of "I don't want to punish your success, I just want to spread the wealth so that the people behind you have the opportunity for success, too." The operative term being "spread the wealth" which is of course socialistic. If history tells us anything it's that when the government sticks its hands in our pockets, it ALWAYS causes trouble. Think Jimmy Carter.
xxpolicebrutalityxx 3 years ago
The US is already socialistic. It is probably more socialistic then countries you think are socialist. It is impossible to live in an organized society without some degree of socialism. Joe may have more opportunity in the UK since at the end of the day he may pay a little more but his and his employees health care are retirement is paid for. The anti-socialism argument is misguided. Maybe we should call them "freedom services"
connorsmacartist 3 years ago
And what kind of healthcare would that be... expand.
averitas 3 years ago
PS- Obama is not Carter. And I still don't believe FOX news or neocons. They have proven time and time again to be liars. After 8 years of fake FEMA news conferences, sketchy intelligence reports and tell-all former white house spokesmen- I don't see why anyone should be expected to believe anything these people have to say.
connorsmacartist 3 years ago
Yes people, don't believe your eyes and ears... we will tell you what to believe.
Give it up, not working. It says something when wanna be fellow travellers come to comment on FOX videos. Why not post the entire interview as a response? Mind you what he says is what he said, feel free to change that.
averitas 3 years ago
If Obama doesn't win the election, he can look back at Joe Plumber from Ohio as the model of great aplomb and common sense. This guy is more convincing than all the politicians combined.
doctel999 3 years ago
you got that right!
eporsimove 3 years ago
Hey, George Orwell was right. With Obama, just like Big Brother, 2+2=5. We see this with taxes and voter registration. "2 legs baaaad, 4 legs good, very good."
eporsimove 3 years ago
God when will Faux News be cancelled?
I feel this dude's pain but your going to have to be taxed because of what that asshole George W. Bush did to the economy. That hole won't be dug out on its own with our already expanding national debt.
crazychick2829 3 years ago
The real issue being discussed here is the fact that Senator Obama came right out and used the term "spread the wealth around" (I don't believe this particular clip shows that portion of the conversation, but it is what they are discussing and it can be seen elsewhere on youtube). This is important because that is a strong catch phrase for socialistic ideals. In the past, Obama has been pretty careful to avoid such blatant phrasing of his ideology.
mrbanjo219 3 years ago
Brilliant CrazyChick... Play the Bush card... very original... You libs are like little dolls that you pull the string and one of five, rehearsed, anti-George Bush statements come out... blah blah blah
bigsprinter 3 years ago
So you don't think Bush is the reason why we're in this mess...of course its the conservatives way to blame Nancy Pelosi and the democratic congress when its the republican white house that screwed up our economy. Vote for him once shame on you, vote for him twice you're a dumb ass.
crazychick2829 3 years ago
What has the democratic congress done in the past 2 years to correct the economic mess we've been coming to, then?
Senkyoka 3 years ago 2
What has Bush done to help the economy?? He's ruined it by starting this pointless war! Where do you think all that national debt is coming from?
crazychick2829 3 years ago
You're avoiding the question by going back to Bush. I'm talking about Congress. Please answer the question.
Senkyoka 3 years ago
Answer my question. What has Bush done in 8 years? I wanna hear this....
crazychick2829 3 years ago
Why should I answer your question if you have yet to answer mine and mine was asked first? Also, you're going off topic. I'm talking about Congress, not Bush.
Senkyoka 3 years ago
if you dont see the trade center attacks as a reason to fight a war i dont know what you think would be.
it's not our fault that you arent as successful as others so you feel free hand outs should be given to all of the people who do nothing. 40% of people dont even pay taxes and they will be getting our hard earned money as checks in the mail. go vote for a socialist and prove to everyone you care more about yourself than your country just like all of the obama supporters will.
jordanthejdub38 3 years ago
You're wrong. I agree we should have fought a war for the trade attacks....IN AFGHANISTAN!!! The republicans lied to you when they said Al Queida was hiding in Iraq. We are blowing billions a month on this pointless war for "freedom" and that is one of the main reasons why we're in this situation to begin with. And having another republican who supports the war in Iraq is NOT good for the economy. We need to be spending billions here in the United States not over in another country.
crazychick2829 3 years ago
thats interesting. if you werent so blind to whats going on in the worl you would know the al queda leaders told us that iraq was the center of their operations and still attack us everyday. i do think the war should focus more on afghanistan yet a war on iraq is crucial too
jordanthejdub38 3 years ago
First it was going to Iraq because their were WMD's, now its because a fictional Al Queda leader told us they were hiding there? Make up your mind republicans!
Waste of money, and I don't think anymore Americans need to die over there. Time to bring them home and focus on protecting the country, not trying to liberate another.
crazychick2829 3 years ago
One word--NOTHING!
NEPatriot 3 years ago
Vote George W. Bush 08
-3rd time's a CHARM!
vikashprakash 3 years ago
He's not running, nimrod. Besides I am voting Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party!
NEPatriot 3 years ago
Say all you can on Bush; Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are amongst the all time great IDIOTS in Congress. Pelosi will have a tough reelection run against Cindy Sheehan. What else does she do but act like the proverbial bitch on Capital Hill ?
doctel999 3 years ago
kind of like how you idiotic repukes love to claim Obama is a marxist or communist? lol...it's clear to see that that clown was and always will be a republican and that's the ONLY reason Faux Noise brought him on for a follow up. Do you really think that if he was going to praise Obama's plan he would have the oppertunity to come on and say it? lol...come on, come on, come on! Socialist or not, Obama WILL be your next president weather you like it or not.
UGOTDAJACK 3 years ago
Asshole Bill Clinton left us with the IT bubble-burst which Bush inherited from the freakin' Demo's (that's all they are Demo's, the full version are the Republicans) and now trying to blame it on Bush!
vikashprakash 3 years ago
Umm, Clinton left America with a surplus from creating new jobs that focused on the growing need for technology...while with Bush we're left us with a deficit.
crazychick2829 3 years ago
You need to re think that crazy chick. At the end of the Clinton administration the economy was on a big downturn. Bush and Gore were arguing about a surplus that was disappearing. A surplus is when you take in more revenue than you spend; if you spend the same and take in less, it's a deficit.
AV84USA 3 years ago
clinton had a republican senate. so they were the ones who put the successful plans in play. clinto just signed the bill, than called monica
jordanthejdub38 3 years ago
Clinton getting a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky was a better president than George W. Bush picking his nose and eating it....
crazychick2829 3 years ago