Balanced Brawl: Breakout

[Jeffjeanw]

I cant get my gamecube controller to work for BB. can someone help me since I can't find anyones email on their website.

[mamaluigi128]

00:28 LOL its a character select screen for tournament players

[Rougealienpirate]

@mamaluigi128 Normal Tournament layout

x30 MK

1Diddy Kong

1Snake

If Mk is banned

x26 Snake

x4 Diddy Kong

x2 Falco

[Jeffjeanw]

So I tried this and I couldnt use my gamecube controllers anybody know how to correct this problem?

[im2tall4u1]

Hey man, I'm really trying to get this going. I run my games off of a HDD. Is there a way to get balanced brawl to work without the actualy brawl disc?

[BIOToxC]

this song is badass ! thumbs up if you agree

[DarkBonesDaku]

ok. so, what did you do to balance olimar?

[puppetchaos]

I hate to join the the "I can't get it to work" crowd - but does writing the files with a Mac (but to a FAT-16 formatted card) to a card somehow fudge it due to the various hidden files, etc. that OS X uses?

[puppetchaos]

@puppetchaos Nevermind. It seems that was the case, I wrote it to the card using Linux and it loaded just fine.

[wawahwario]

LOVE THE CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN AT 0:28

[puppetchaos]

@wawahwario Reminds me of that photoshopped image of the Street Fighter 4 select screen where it's all Kens

[Kool212]

Can I use my texture and stage mods with this?

[OfficerCooper]

@Kool212 yes

[RockieOllie]

I lol'd at the character selection screen

[KeroTheInvincible]

@RockieOllie Well, you've gotta admit, it would be pretty balanced if that were the case. XD

[YOMAMA288alyurbase]

For some reason, it isn't working for me. I downloaded the zip, put it on an sd card, a basically did all the the steps, but when i go to stage builder, it just goes to the normal screen. I even put all the stages onto a different sd card. Can anyone help? My sd card is 2 GB if that changes anything.

[pfaccioxx]

Hay how do I get the Free Camra code 2 work 4 BBrawl without disabling anything else?

also is there a BBrawl FAQ page?

(cos if not that would be a good idea)

[THEasianpianodude]

do you need smashstack? or do you need the hackmii .elf file? because that screen was the same as the homebrew channel install screen.

[FrenchyStarFox]

Does BBrawl works on SD card labeled "SDHC" ? I tried to make it work, like the instructions says, but nothing happens.

[pfaccioxx]

@FrenchyStarFox Any SSBB hack Will NOT work on a SD card that's over 2GB unless U are using Wiivolution (I may have mis spelled that XP)

[BlueZebra137]

Do I need the homebrew channel or Gecko or anything for this? Because I extracted all the files to the SD card like the instructions said, loaded up stage builder and nothings happening...

[StrongGaia]

@BlueZebra137 You have to delete all your custom stages before inserting the SD card for it to work, try that. Make sure if you have a PAL wii, you don't have the NTSC files, and visa-versa.

[polostick101]

2:24 DO THE WORM DK!!!

[BlazinBobs]

If I want to combine the changes/mods of Balanced Brawl with Brawl Minus, how do I do it? Do i simply combine the character folder pacs?

[AmazingAmpharos]

@746572938556

Yes, you can play online, but you need to play with others who have BBrawl as well. If you tried to play with people who didn't (such as people on "With Anyone"), it would desynch.

[metalsonic546]

Good game, gay song.

[CaioNV]

I have to delete my custon sages?

[EVAKirby]

I have a problem regarding BBrawl. I have the files needed on my SD card and everything, but when I go into the Stage Builder, it always freezes on me and doesn't do anything else. Am I doing something wrong here?

[pfaccioxx]

Hay I've bin having some problems with BBrawl and was wondering if you could possibly know how to fix them

1) is that The Free camera code doesn't work, it's just like normal

2) I Want to add textures for a bunch of caricters but I can't cos some caricters there alrdy have files there (0 Sught Samos, Pokemon Trainer, Zelda, ext.) and I don't want 2 override them and mess up BBrawl

(Continued)

[pfaccioxx]

@pfaccioxx

3) I input a hack to turn Golden into Magickcarp, but I tested it out and it was just a Golden (I may have put the hack in the wrong place but I'm not sure)

4) I don't know were to put Item textures

5) I have no Idea how to set up CSP's

if you could help (or if anyone could for that mater) I'd very much apriceate it

(sorry about posting this here but I can't PM U)

[OfficerCooper]

The textures included in BBrawl are merely unmodified default files, only there to speed up transformation loading. As for the other textures, I'm not sure what the correct directory is.

[pfaccioxx]

@OfficerCooper So I can just delete them and if won't afct BBrawl 2 much?

[raitonsword]

BBrawl is awesome.  Thank you. Especially in regards to Ike's neutral air. All of my best characters (which were all aparently low tier) feel so much better. The only thing left that annoys me is tripping when a banana hits you while STANDING STILL! I can understand while moving or if it instead caused some flinching but tripping! Diddy Kong is the reason I had to learn a new character! I'm not too good at catching items...

[Number1ricky]

I'm so happy! Thank you :)

[Deboogs]

R.I.P. Hannenbow.

[OfficerCooper]

Hmm? This stage is still there, it isn't removed.

[Deboogs]

@OfficerCooper

Yeah. It was removed in version 1 I think. I realized that after I downloaded the new one.

[pfaccioxx]

yo B.Brawl Is a some and stuff but I'm not a fan of the fact it disables custom stages (but I understand that it's probably nisasry for the loader) do you guys think you could relise a version of BBrawl (for people who already have hacked wii's) that doesn't disable custom stages?

[OfficerCooper]

Already done, a Riivolution version is uploaded to the site, check the news page. You can boot it by going to the SD menu on system menu 4.0-4.2. Does not work on 4.3.

[AngelHaruji]

Hello, I've tried out what you said, and read the instruction, Since I am just starting out with Brawl balance. Do I have to have the old version first before updating to get the new version?

Also I am using a 2GB sandisk for the wii. So if I am doing anything wrong please help me out cause when I deleted everything I didn't delete the names, so I'm not to sure if that was suppose to be deleted or not. Send me a message back asap thanks. ^^

[beastmodecat]

also whats SDI Multiplier

[OfficerCooper]

SDI multiplier refers to how far you can SDI a hit; SDI is the act of smashing the control stick to move your character slightly, most useful for escaping multi-hit moves such as repeating jabs.

[beastmodecat]

on sonics page it says. "Neutral aerial is now always safe on hit." what does safe on hit mean? and also where can i find more info on jiggly puffs side taunt where it says it depends on her damage but it says its too complicated to explain to me

[beastmodecat]

also whats Knockback Growth?

[OfficerCooper]

Growth refers to how much the knockback changes according to the enemy's damage level and weight. Normally high growth (75+) is what lets move be good for KOs, and low growth (30-) is good for combos.

[SuperLearningCenter]

king dedede didnt get buffed enough

[OfficerCooper]

D-throw to d-tilt disagrees. ;)

[OfficerCooper]

Safe on hit means that the opponent should never be able to freely hit Sonic back if Sonic lands the move, even if the enemy is at 0%.

Jigglypuff pulls out a Smoke Ball half the time, and a Pitfall/Hothead/Freezie/Spring­/Mr.Saturn 10% each. It's not really random, but the sum of the number of times you have gotten an item already and the 1s place of your current damage.

[PivotMonk]

I just wish that BB had each pokemon seprate like Brawl+ cause I only like venasaur

[SuperLearningCenter]

how is this able to be free with no catch? also, can you get anything malicious from just the extraction of a .zip folder, or is that unable to allow malicousness to occur like would be running an .exe

[kevinkenny3]

@SuperLearningCenter You serious?

[SuperLearningCenter]

@kevinkenny3 yeah? are you serious to waste a comment like that with no help?

[SuperLearningCenter]

i extracted into my SD and it works fine. yay balanced brawl woot, did it also get rid of the time limit on being able to save a replay though?

[OfficerCooper]

Yep.

[beastmodecat]

cool, nothing seemed to menchin that it did on the website. i like everything so far but playing meta-knight i miss his good knockback down-smash. i also dont see why mario didnt have his down-b water blast knock-back increased like squirtles. the main reason i choose BBrawl for a enhanced brawl version was its safe non-homebrew install method and all that. only thing bad would be that if i wanted to play it at friends he would have to delete his custom stages that are saved on his Wii right?

[beastmodecat]

also, there doesnt seem to be any extra-help/info on the website about all the options gecko shows other then the first top one that starts BBrawl.

[OfficerCooper]

If he has system menu 4.0-4.2, he can also use the Riivolution version that can be launched from the Wii system menu with no such requirements.

[kevinkenny3]

@SuperLearningCenter lol if you haven't heard that the internetz is full of free stuff, you're late /b/ro

[Kody910]

I've got a problem....Everytime I try to go into stage builder, am I supposed to select the SD Card icon? Because if so, it crashes everytime I try. Would the distributed stage of the day be affecting anything, or cause this to happen, or is it something else?

[Kody910]

@Kody910

Never mind, I got it working. Looks great!

[SelfmadeDreamer13]

It does'nt boot...

it is possible to play this with a micro SD card?

[OfficerCooper]

Of course, assuming it's in the SD adapter that comes with most micro-SD cards. (All mine are microSD). PAL or NTSC? PM me if you'd like, or stop by the BBrawl site chat.

[SelfmadeDreamer13]

@OfficerCooper

It's OK, a friend helped me.

Everything works.

Thumbs up!

[OfficerCooper]

Good to hear--let us know what you and your friends think!

[FlareRDB]

What's the difference between this and brawl+ and '*xyz* brawl?' Just seems like a bunch of people keep making their own patches based on the idea that brawl is flawed.

You did make some pretty interesting changes though that I wish were done in the original, but not all.

[OfficerCooper]

The main thing that sets BBrawl apart from Brawl mods that are trying to remake the game is that BBrawl is for people who *don't* think Brawl is flawed. It has no changes to character control or physics from normal Brawl (the opposite of Brawl+ and other mods) and consists of changes that are in line with the existing design philosophy of the game.

In other words, if Nintendo issued an official balance patch for the game, it would probably look very similar to this.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Yes finally the PAL version is out =D. Now quick question, does it boot in the same way as the NTSC version?

[OfficerCooper]

No, it uses Riivolution+Bannerbomb; it is booted by selected the SD card icon on the main Wii system menu.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

@OfficerCooper

Ah ok, so I just click the SD Icon on my Wii System Menu and it will automatically boot Riivolution with the boot.elf file?

[OfficerCooper]

correct

[shadowgripper]

This is simply amazing =)

Excellent work guys

[Terotrous]

I quite enjoy this patch, particularly that it tries to improve the experience without drastically changing it, but I have one beef - The "C-Stick Fastfall bug", which is fixed in Brawl+, is still present here. Is there any way it could be fixed in the future?

For the unfamiliar, the bug is that if you do a Dair with the C-Stick set to Smash, it will cause you to fast-fall (if possible). This makes meteors risky for some characters like Ike and Falco.

[OfficerCooper]

It's a conscious choice to avoid changing controls in any way. Non-fast-fall dairs already have two options: You can hold down before reaching the apex of your last jump, or you can use a tilt-stick instead of a smash stick.

[Terotrous]

I have used both of those methods in vBrawl, but there are drawbacks to each - C-Stick Attack has its own bugs (using it on the ground often makes you jump), and holding down before the apex of your jump is something you can only do if you know you're going to be doing the Dair ahead of time (in a 2on2 or FFA you might not).

Since the C-Stick fastfall is actually a bug and not an intended feature of standard Brawl, I doubt there would really be anyone who would object to it being fixed.

[TheCape]

@OfficerCooper

I think his approach (as was mine when I first saw that change from Melee to Brawl almost two years ago) is that it creates a lack of control for the player (C stick up does not make you jump for example) and by making the stick not auto fast fall it allows more control for the player and is therefore a preferred change in that sense. Might be something worth polling the players about and considering.

Good work as always guys.

[btnheazy03]

Heavy: "ENTIRE TEAM IS META KNIGHT"

[yousuckatlyfe]

I thought the first character roster was a lot better and more accurate than the second one.

[Jay2cool22]

awesome vid and whats the song?

[TheOriginalSmasher]

Gotta be honest... I kindof prefer the first version. This seems like Cpt. Falcon is a bit broken. as well of a few other things

[OfficerCooper]

Falcon broken? That's a new one, lol. I'd suggest playing around with it first hand (against humans) to see for yourself how well things have worked out.

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@OfficerCooper I just think its mostly the immunity to the Falcon Punch, and at 2:40 Idk, it seems like there is completley NO lag at all.

No doubt, i'm still going to play it, because I am such a huge fan of the first version.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

@TheOriginalSmasher

It's not immunity, it's a 7% super armour. If Metaknight's attack were to say..do 8% instead of 7 the attack woulda been interrupted.

[WindTouzoku]

@TheOriginalSmasher

No lag....on Falcon Punch??? w t f

o_0

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@WindTouzoku I never said theres no lag on the Punch, I said the fact that you are immune to any knockback while using it seems a bit broken.

And how you can use another move as soon as Falcon Kick ends, that is where I am claiming the "no lag"

[DartagnanZero]

Question, is there any way to use custom stages in BBrawl? BTW that first roster with 33 MK's made me LMAO!

[cristianpul9]

how i can put the customs skins ?

[OfficerCooper]

Just add them to the SD card like normal, no problem.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Oh yeah and for those of you wondering what exactly that new skill is, whenever Jiggly does her side taunt she pulls out a random item. Half the time it's a Smoke Ball and the other half it's one of the following: Spring, Freezie, Hothead, Pitfall, Mr Saturn.

[SiLeNtDo0m]

Jiggly's new skill=WIN

[cristianpul9]

can i leave the balanced brawl data in the hard drive of the wii?

[OfficerCooper]

No, it is currently impossible to have any permanent installation of BBrawl. This is sort of a good thing, since it prevents anyone from changing their game permanently by accident--no risk involved.

[pseudohippie55]

At 1:15 i sounds like the announcer says TURTLE. lol

I guess he wants to see a bowser squirtle battle.

THE ANNOUNCE DECREES IT! IT MUST HAPPEN!

[WindTouzoku]

You should have told me we were making a video >_>

I wouldn't have been Zelda every match.

[SexyAltrox]

That beginning with all MKs cept for Snake and Diddy made me lol

[PKRockin7]

Fantastic. Simply fantastic.

[MasterofFlare]

Hell yea that's my Ike killing with Eruption~

[RCyclone]

@MasterofFlare And that's my Ike dieing from it :'( Awesome Job on the video! :D

The first 30 seconds is so Funny!

[Menounderwater]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

00:30 was simply amazing

[OfficerCooper]

@Menounderwater I don't think I'd be able to pick either!