Malcolm X was never a Panther. He was militant, sure, and the Panthers took something of a lead from his militancy, but he was killed before the Black Panther Party for Self Defense was founded. Also, gets a lot of the differences between the BPP and Martin wrong. Sloppy history.
This segment actually touches upon an important concept currently facing America; the socioeconomic dilemma. The GOP is tied to religion, which is tied to humanitarianism, which is tied to receptiveness. It's why Islam is so well-received in some countries; their outreach programs. Couple that with American politicians throwing education under the bus for more war, tax breaks, etc. and the declining economy drives people towards religion in an environment of declining science, etc. i.e win-win
Thanks Anzuki. I get that Melchiorre didn't want this up because of the inaccuracies, but it's possible to ignore the mistakes and take away the message.
I wonder if this guy's ass hurts, he sure is pulling a lot out of it. Crack open a history book and stop making up stuff, you're hurting the atheist cause with your ignorance.
Well he was a little while in getting there, but I like his point that we atheists should own our title of atheists, and not try to pander to the religious and call ourselves 'just' humanist and such. If you don't believe in gods, own it.
Malcolm X and Huey Newton so not the same dude. Also, the historical queer movement (and the current one) has more than its fair share of divisiveness and arguments. Look at the way Queer Nation (which coined the phase "We are here, we are queer, get used to it) fought with the Mattachines. Or the legendary cis lesbian vs trans women battles.
Wow, Mr. Melchiorre needs a history lesson! Malcolm X didn't lead the black panthers. He was a member of the Nation of Islam. Also, I highly doubt that X and MLK secretly collaborated on anything being as they were beholden to different prophets. At least he realized his mistake later.
I'm a pretty liberal guy on social issues, but liberal atheists to the extent this guy is, I feel do more to hinder the message than promote it. Connecting the cause of atheism with every other social and ethical grievance is a waste of time and resources.
Hmm I wonder if AronRa is gonna re-upload this later with annotations or something. I know he doesn't agree with it but I'm not sure if removing without a word is right.
Cheers for mirroring. I think this should have been left up - kinda odd that #3 is missing but all the rest are there. Having said that, I disagreed with most of what he said, which wasn't much because the majority of what came out his mouth were trite truims. And his closing remarks? Bleh. Atheists need to unite to be atheists, to be united to be atheists to be atheist. Or some simlarly circular mumblefuck. Oh well, let's hope 4 onward are of the quality of #s 1 and 2.
Ok lets just ignore the history he got wrong for the sake of his core argument. In some ways he's right. There are more intimidating Atheist and Atheist who are more approachable by the other side. But really that can be said for any group of people. The thing mostly however we do need unity on is to pressure governments where we are actively discriminated against. To run for office in places where you can't get elected if your an Atheist to change the laws like that.
However it's a better approach if Theist can see that these types of religion getting into the government is not only bad for us it's bad for them too. So I think it's best to promote humanism and secularism if as an Atheist you also agree with those things.
On his other points seriously? For the most part Atheist look stuff up I know I do before I say something. >.< Now some stupid Creotard is just going to use that against you.
Malcolm X was never in the Black Panthers. The only things he had (or even might have had) in common was the time frame in which he was active and rejecting Dr. Martin Luther King's peaceful protest methods.
Melchiorre actually asked AronRa to take the video down, as he realized that he had made some mistakes. AronRa explained it on his channel, in the comment section.
@Killerwhalepat They didn't exactly willingly die. Number of the more famous atheist get death threats constantly but still do what they want. Granted probably no where near as much as Either did.
Malcolm X --Huey Newton--those boys all look alike to you, don't they? It doesn't help him he is arguing on the basis of ignorance like a conspiracy theorist. The actual relationships between King and Malcolm (or Huey, who know which one he;s talking about), must be well known to historians int hat field if he had bothered to look.
@SolomonKull I really appreciate anzuki for mirroring this, because I can't find this part elsewhere. But yes, this dude has it all wrong and I have no idea who he is, either.
Plus, one thing he said was something like "You may remember Malcolm X, the leader of the Black Panther Party." Well, that didn't sit well with me, so I researched, and yep, Malcolm X never even belonged to the Black Panther Party.
Malcolm X was never a Panther. He was militant, sure, and the Panthers took something of a lead from his militancy, but he was killed before the Black Panther Party for Self Defense was founded. Also, gets a lot of the differences between the BPP and Martin wrong. Sloppy history.
AgentOfProgress 7 months ago 3
This segment actually touches upon an important concept currently facing America; the socioeconomic dilemma. The GOP is tied to religion, which is tied to humanitarianism, which is tied to receptiveness. It's why Islam is so well-received in some countries; their outreach programs. Couple that with American politicians throwing education under the bus for more war, tax breaks, etc. and the declining economy drives people towards religion in an environment of declining science, etc. i.e win-win
PawnBACM 7 months ago
Malcolm X was actually remarkably light-skinned, not very dark. There are colour photographs of him showing this.
mavaddat 7 months ago
Thanks Anzuki. I get that Melchiorre didn't want this up because of the inaccuracies, but it's possible to ignore the mistakes and take away the message.
LeeMarcelle 7 months ago
Dicky Dawkins looks bored. Aaron Ra doesn't look too impressed either!
ferkinskin 8 months ago
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alirezasepehrara 8 months ago
I think Sam Harris has an excellent response to his call for athiests to unite, youtube video titled _Sam Harris on the "dangers" of "atheism"_
TheNatealator 8 months ago
I wonder if this guy's ass hurts, he sure is pulling a lot out of it. Crack open a history book and stop making up stuff, you're hurting the atheist cause with your ignorance.
Cougar139tweak 8 months ago 3
This guys has a horrid grasp on history, and should do a lot more research.
reznor12 8 months ago 6
lol! Malcom X was not dark, he was red boned and even had a nickname because his skin was light and hair had a redish color.
X was a Nation of Islam leader not a Panther. Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale founded the Panthers.
none of these men were terribly dark. In fact, MLK jr. might have actually been the darkest of them …… FAIL!!!
BoogieNite77 8 months ago 2
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Well he was a little while in getting there, but I like his point that we atheists should own our title of atheists, and not try to pander to the religious and call ourselves 'just' humanist and such. If you don't believe in gods, own it.
ReligiousFiction 8 months ago
Malcolm X and Huey Newton so not the same dude. Also, the historical queer movement (and the current one) has more than its fair share of divisiveness and arguments. Look at the way Queer Nation (which coined the phase "We are here, we are queer, get used to it) fought with the Mattachines. Or the legendary cis lesbian vs trans women battles.
He needs to learn some damned history.
opptomisticcynic 8 months ago
I fucking love this guy =^_^=
BlankPicketSign 8 months ago
the guy have no idea what hes talking about... and make no sense.
Phangaea 8 months ago
@Phangaea
Don't know if troll... still thing wrong...
BlankPicketSign 8 months ago
Wow, Mr. Melchiorre needs a history lesson! Malcolm X didn't lead the black panthers. He was a member of the Nation of Islam. Also, I highly doubt that X and MLK secretly collaborated on anything being as they were beholden to different prophets. At least he realized his mistake later.
ADAMDefiant 8 months ago 2
I'm a pretty liberal guy on social issues, but liberal atheists to the extent this guy is, I feel do more to hinder the message than promote it. Connecting the cause of atheism with every other social and ethical grievance is a waste of time and resources.
sellsjeeps 8 months ago
Hmm I wonder if AronRa is gonna re-upload this later with annotations or something. I know he doesn't agree with it but I'm not sure if removing without a word is right.
Scraxs 8 months ago
Cheers for mirroring. I think this should have been left up - kinda odd that #3 is missing but all the rest are there. Having said that, I disagreed with most of what he said, which wasn't much because the majority of what came out his mouth were trite truims. And his closing remarks? Bleh. Atheists need to unite to be atheists, to be united to be atheists to be atheist. Or some simlarly circular mumblefuck. Oh well, let's hope 4 onward are of the quality of #s 1 and 2.
Teloculos 8 months ago 3
Ok lets just ignore the history he got wrong for the sake of his core argument. In some ways he's right. There are more intimidating Atheist and Atheist who are more approachable by the other side. But really that can be said for any group of people. The thing mostly however we do need unity on is to pressure governments where we are actively discriminated against. To run for office in places where you can't get elected if your an Atheist to change the laws like that.
MistressArte 8 months ago
However it's a better approach if Theist can see that these types of religion getting into the government is not only bad for us it's bad for them too. So I think it's best to promote humanism and secularism if as an Atheist you also agree with those things.
On his other points seriously? For the most part Atheist look stuff up I know I do before I say something. >.< Now some stupid Creotard is just going to use that against you.
MistressArte 8 months ago
Malcolm X was never in the Black Panthers. The only things he had (or even might have had) in common was the time frame in which he was active and rejecting Dr. Martin Luther King's peaceful protest methods.
Moh5Itachi1 8 months ago
still don`t like the idea of "unity is strength".
robertgaudlitz 8 months ago
I still would like to see an explanation from AronRa why he he took this down.
DoggySpew 8 months ago
@DoggySpew
Melchiorre actually asked AronRa to take the video down, as he realized that he had made some mistakes. AronRa explained it on his channel, in the comment section.
Pulsar89 8 months ago 3
both were killed - i don't think there are any athiests who would willing die like they did
Killerwhalepat 8 months ago
@Killerwhalepat They didn't exactly willingly die. Number of the more famous atheist get death threats constantly but still do what they want. Granted probably no where near as much as Either did.
mistereveready 8 months ago
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MistressArte 8 months ago
Malcolm X --Huey Newton--those boys all look alike to you, don't they? It doesn't help him he is arguing on the basis of ignorance like a conspiracy theorist. The actual relationships between King and Malcolm (or Huey, who know which one he;s talking about), must be well known to historians int hat field if he had bothered to look.
HConstantine 8 months ago
@HConstantine I can see why AronRa took this one down.
HConstantine 8 months ago 26
@HConstantine I can see why AronRa took it down too.
dragon8me2 8 months ago
Thanks for mirroring!
LtShock 8 months ago
This dude has it all wrong. Who the fuck is he, anyway? Never heard of nor seen him before.
SolomonKull 8 months ago
@SolomonKull I really appreciate anzuki for mirroring this, because I can't find this part elsewhere. But yes, this dude has it all wrong and I have no idea who he is, either.
Plus, one thing he said was something like "You may remember Malcolm X, the leader of the Black Panther Party." Well, that didn't sit well with me, so I researched, and yep, Malcolm X never even belonged to the Black Panther Party.
Rationalific 8 months ago 17