Japen only surrendered to the US because they didnt want to surrender to the russians. The US feared another east-west berlin type senerio if the russians invaded...so rather than a land invasion...they hastened the end of the war with the bombs to get in before the russians.
@tkboy121 The Manhattan Project was named after the 1898 Manhattan earthquake caused by Nikola Tesla at his Houston St. Laboratory. -The truth is eternal. Time is as the chains of slavery of which God is not subject
A simplistic overview of a complex subject. They create straw men and then knock them down. Saying that the Manhattan Project was "one of the most controversial human experiments in modern history", is an example. Except for a small number of physicist, like Leo Szilard, there was no controversy of about the project. The real controversy was about the deployment of the weapons and the public policies put in place by Truman who was influenced by Baruch. Skip it.
jewish scientists did not originate the atomic bomb technology. German scientists developed the technology and testted the effects in january of 1945. Hitler decided that the weapon would mar his legacy so the project was abandoned. When Americans fell upon Germany they discovered the atomic facilities and gave the German scientists immunity and lucrative contracts to build the bombs which they dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hitler never would have dropped atomic bombs on human beings.
Damn, the Japs killed our troops but America said we're going to kill your men, women and children... I wonder what our country would be like if we didn't drop that bomb though...
ahhh some of ur info is wrong there were not k-25 plants built, there was a single gaseous diffusion plant called k-25, there was a second plant built and named something else, and they separated uranium 238 from U235 not plutonium
And this "great" bomb has cause so much pain and suffering to all who have come in contact with it. All people who supported the use of the bomb, may you not be a victim of one. Then you'll see.
So civilians, not military personnel, are the victims. The bomb was wrong, will always be wrong. One American life was not equal to even 100 Japanese lives. Now, one Japanese is worth his weight in gold. One American is worth his weight in fat. How things have changed!
The dropping of the bombs had no meaning effect on the Japanese leadership's attitutde towards surrender. They surrendered because Stalin invaded, taking away all hope they had for either of the two paths they had left to push for better surrender terms. The leadership wasn't particularly interested in worrying about losing 2 more cities after they had already lost 67 others that summer. Don't believe everything you read in American high school history books. :/
UC Santa Barbara historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa did exhaustive research into the issue by looking through the transcripts of the meetings where these things were discussed. When Stalin invaded Manchruia, the Japanese military freaked out and thrust the Japanese mainland into martial law. Military leadership strongly considered a military coup to overtake the Emperor. Their reaction to the bombs dropping was a single, short mentino at these meetings which was summarily dismissed.
@chucktone11, Your chronology is right, but correlation doesn't imply causation. Stalin invaded Manchuria, and the Japanese surrended immediately thereafter. Read the transcripts of the meetings the Japanese leadership had. It isn't even debatable. They weren't scared of losing a city overnight when they had lost 67 other cities overnight thru the summer. Their last chance for good surrender terms rested entirely with retaining Stalin as a mediator, which couldn't happen once he invaded.
Great! should've killed all you fuckin' japs for tha shit they did especially to their neighbourz right there in China countless men women and children they killed raped murdered GUTTED and most people don't even know about this shit. I didn't know about this either "Ignorance iz bliss" People in higher power are doing a really wonderful job at covering up this shit some japs dont even fuckin' know that japan waz bombed..but az they say.. what's in tha dark must come to light eventually.
so if america started a war with bombings, strategically place on another countrys MILITARY base, u wud be fine with the other country blowing Washington, D.C and New York City into a wasteland?
Einstein just signed the "famous letter" to Roosevelt bechause of two reasons (bechause it was most urgent to get the project started) he had a famuos name and he had friends high up in Belgian-Congo, who had the biggest known amount of uranium. Einstein later reget that he signed under..
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Satan runs this world. So many atrocities and massacres were done in World War II on both sides. It really makes you wonder why God created humans. Humans are such disgusting and filthy creatures. All we do is kill and want power. And honestly, Zionist Jews are the worst of them all. There is just way too much corruption in this world. I hate war, death and destruction and I will never fight for a corrupt government to kill others.
Funny, as it turns out, Truman wasn't all about the saving lives. He could have ended the war in May of '45, by letting the Emperor stay in power. But he didn't for three reasons:
1.) He wanted to Scare the Soviets, who thought didn't know about the project.
2.) the Military spent 2 billion and wanted to test their new weapon.
3.) Because Americans wnated Revenge.!!!
I'm a historian so i know this for a fact, I know that alot of you have your own views but that's the truth:].
You mean Revisionist Historian. There is absolutely NO evidence the Japanese would have capitulated under any circumstance, None. Most of the Japanese hierarchy was willing to sacrifice the entire population rather that surrender. It wasn't until Hirohito himself ordered the surrender that it happened and even then some of the military tried to stop it. Say whatever you want but the facts speak for themselves. Truman gave the Potsdam Declaration on 7/26, 2A-bombs later the Japs gave up on 8/14..
let me respectfully disagree with you, there IS evidence the Japs were going to surrender, letters, documents, back channel communications, all they wanted was a conditional surrender, even the US marshal commander of the Pacific and even the testimonies of people like Eisenhower, who definitely had inside information, were convinced that the japs were going to surrender and that the A-bombs were unnecessary, they threw it only as a show of force, which equals WAR CRIME
Sorry but losing a War equals War Crimes, they're not war crimes when you win a war. The Japanese had every opportunity to capiltulate but they choose not to. The Japanese choose to invade Manchuria, they choose to murder civilians everywhere they landed in Asia, They choose to fight to the last man on Iwo Jima, Tinian, Saipan, Okinawa, They choose to Attack the U.S. without provocation or warning or even first declaring war and they choose to mistreat prisoners in a way never heard of before...
They were then warned that hell was a comin', again their response was a middle finger. Conditional surrender was not an option, not after sacrificing a generation. Luckily Truman learned a bunch during WWI and realized that conditional surrender to an undefeated Army/Enemy meant that you would be fighting them again in 10 or 20 years. Those two bombs saved millions of lives. I choose not to pass judgement on my Grandparents generation but instead honor them and thank them for their sacrifice.
I praise god that they had the guts to rid the world of tyranny and were willing to make that sacrifice. Superimposing 2009 knowledge on 1945 is ridicules. The Japanese were effectively defeated after Midway in 1942 but it still took 3 more years and millions of deaths, many of which were there own before they gave up. We liberated Europe and Asia and the only land we took was a plot big enough to bury our dead. The Japanese haven't attacked anyone in 64 years which is a record for them.....
al right, I think I understand you... you can commit all the crimes you want, as long as youre the winner, therefore you wont be considered a war criminal. You only a war criminal when you lose the war. well, under that logic it would not be far fetched to see the bizarre escenario of nazi germany judging the Allies for war crimes, had he won the war. Besides, your logic is not far from the inmorality that reigns nowadays, it's only victor's justice, but still inmoral and brutal, in my opinion
The Japanese and Nazi's would still be murdering people if they would have won. There wouldn't one Jew, Gypsy, Russian or Chinese left in the world. I understand you now, you're from one of those countrys that have funny history books that claim the US and Britain were the Villians and the Nazi's and Japanese were innocent victims. The Rape of Nanking never happened, the holocaust never happened (except the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) but you enjoy all the benifits of a liberated world
Regardless of your views as to what the world would be like if the Allies had lost the war, the simple fact remains that the dropping of the bombs had nothing whatsoever to do with ending the war and getting Japan to surrender. They surrenedered because Stalin's invasion completely removed both of their remaining strategic options for securing better surrender terms. It's not about teaching 'funny' history, it's about teaching modern history with up to date research.
That's simply your opinion. US demanded an unconditional surrender and Japan wasn't willing to do it. Instead, they wanted to bleed the US slowly to force them to the negotiating table. After Okinawa, Japan's strategy would have worked. The US however wasn't willing to allow 1 million US citizen soldiers pay that price. Japan reaped what it sowed.
@yarbles67 You are assuming that the leadership here in the US was seriously worried about there even being such an invasion. They weren't because at the Potsdam conference a secret pact was made between Stalin and the US that he would invade no later than mid-August. Which he did. The terms that the US accepted were IDENTICAL to what the Japanese demanded (namely, the survival of their Emperor as the head of state).
im gonna correct you, how does being a historian mean you know what the reasons were, you can guess or deduce, but not know for a fact. The word history itself comes from the word for story, so don't comment so full of yourself, you have a job you are by no means omnicient
don't mind about the language. it seems tut multicultural countries are especially sensitive to languages than non-multicultural countries. But how is that multi-cultural???
Einstein was just braught in, bechause of his friendship with the heads of Belgian Congo, who had the greatest amount of plutonium. Leó Szilárd wrote a letter, Albert signed after,(bechause of Alberts "name", something he later did regret) and sendt it to Roosevelt., about the nazi-nuclear threat. But the government reacted late, until they finally understood it. Then the biggest tecnologichal project to that date really started. General Grooves was the boss and organiser, and got the finances..
Afterwards, Robet Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein created the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs. These conferences received the nobel Prize fo Peace!
i dont know where to find it but there should be footage somewhere of the british atomic tests in australia in the 50's...i can remember shots of army personell watching the blast from very close and wearing no protection apart from sunglasses ..also the local aboriginal communities were not warned and were treated as guinea pigs to see the effects of radiation...these areas are still prohibited entry...hhhmmm
some of the facts are wrong. Leo szillard, a hungarian was fearful that the germans were researching a fission bomb so he convinced einstein to approach roosevelt.
Japen only surrendered to the US because they didnt want to surrender to the russians. The US feared another east-west berlin type senerio if the russians invaded...so rather than a land invasion...they hastened the end of the war with the bombs to get in before the russians.
andgate2000 2 months ago
truman this was'nt neccesary.
momentoftruth1079 3 months ago
nice kolaz 4 high school assignment
ONSTAGERECORDSUK 1 year ago
@tkboy121 The Manhattan Project was named after the 1898 Manhattan earthquake caused by Nikola Tesla at his Houston St. Laboratory. -The truth is eternal. Time is as the chains of slavery of which God is not subject
insightllc 1 year ago
the music is too loud and distracting when people talk
Gameinggames 1 year ago
A simplistic overview of a complex subject. They create straw men and then knock them down. Saying that the Manhattan Project was "one of the most controversial human experiments in modern history", is an example. Except for a small number of physicist, like Leo Szilard, there was no controversy of about the project. The real controversy was about the deployment of the weapons and the public policies put in place by Truman who was influenced by Baruch. Skip it.
MisterCinders 1 year ago
jewish scientists did not originate the atomic bomb technology. German scientists developed the technology and testted the effects in january of 1945. Hitler decided that the weapon would mar his legacy so the project was abandoned. When Americans fell upon Germany they discovered the atomic facilities and gave the German scientists immunity and lucrative contracts to build the bombs which they dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hitler never would have dropped atomic bombs on human beings.
ManyStrongPoints 1 year ago
Damn, the Japs killed our troops but America said we're going to kill your men, women and children... I wonder what our country would be like if we didn't drop that bomb though...
Violnplayr23 1 year ago
ahhh some of ur info is wrong there were not k-25 plants built, there was a single gaseous diffusion plant called k-25, there was a second plant built and named something else, and they separated uranium 238 from U235 not plutonium
hotshooter2010 1 year ago
What's the name of the song that goes in the back some places???
MMSimac 2 years ago
i heard some members of the manhattan project committed suicides.
starkiller387 2 years ago
And this "great" bomb has cause so much pain and suffering to all who have come in contact with it. All people who supported the use of the bomb, may you not be a victim of one. Then you'll see.
lexcorona85 2 years ago
So civilians, not military personnel, are the victims. The bomb was wrong, will always be wrong. One American life was not equal to even 100 Japanese lives. Now, one Japanese is worth his weight in gold. One American is worth his weight in fat. How things have changed!
lexcorona85 2 years ago
@lexcorona85 to hell with you.
iTzSlugo 2 years ago
0:06
19sp93 2 years ago
Ok im pretty shure they droped the bombes thenn japan surrendered.
chucktone11 2 years ago 2
The dropping of the bombs had no meaning effect on the Japanese leadership's attitutde towards surrender. They surrendered because Stalin invaded, taking away all hope they had for either of the two paths they had left to push for better surrender terms. The leadership wasn't particularly interested in worrying about losing 2 more cities after they had already lost 67 others that summer. Don't believe everything you read in American high school history books. :/
TavishHill 2 years ago
were did you get your info
moptrucks 2 years ago
@moptrucks
UC Santa Barbara historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa did exhaustive research into the issue by looking through the transcripts of the meetings where these things were discussed. When Stalin invaded Manchruia, the Japanese military freaked out and thrust the Japanese mainland into martial law. Military leadership strongly considered a military coup to overtake the Emperor. Their reaction to the bombs dropping was a single, short mentino at these meetings which was summarily dismissed.
TavishHill 2 years ago
@chucktone11, Your chronology is right, but correlation doesn't imply causation. Stalin invaded Manchuria, and the Japanese surrended immediately thereafter. Read the transcripts of the meetings the Japanese leadership had. It isn't even debatable. They weren't scared of losing a city overnight when they had lost 67 other cities overnight thru the summer. Their last chance for good surrender terms rested entirely with retaining Stalin as a mediator, which couldn't happen once he invaded.
TavishHill 2 years ago
Thank God for Harry Truman, I wonder if anyone else would have had the guts to drop them!
450984 2 years ago
Great! should've killed all you fuckin' japs for tha shit they did especially to their neighbourz right there in China countless men women and children they killed raped murdered GUTTED and most people don't even know about this shit. I didn't know about this either "Ignorance iz bliss" People in higher power are doing a really wonderful job at covering up this shit some japs dont even fuckin' know that japan waz bombed..but az they say.. what's in tha dark must come to light eventually.
Immaculite 2 years ago
so if america started a war with bombings, strategically place on another countrys MILITARY base, u wud be fine with the other country blowing Washington, D.C and New York City into a wasteland?
insanekneeboarder 2 years ago
8:57 holy shit!
DominicKayoKid 2 years ago
Einstein just signed the "famous letter" to Roosevelt bechause of two reasons (bechause it was most urgent to get the project started) he had a famuos name and he had friends high up in Belgian-Congo, who had the biggest known amount of uranium. Einstein later reget that he signed under..
ingareinar007 3 years ago 2
because not bechause
x512ACEx 2 years ago
Oh sure. Sorry for that one... I think I write better Norwegian, hehe
ingareinar007 2 years ago
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Satan runs this world. So many atrocities and massacres were done in World War II on both sides. It really makes you wonder why God created humans. Humans are such disgusting and filthy creatures. All we do is kill and want power. And honestly, Zionist Jews are the worst of them all. There is just way too much corruption in this world. I hate war, death and destruction and I will never fight for a corrupt government to kill others.
nestrohn 3 years ago
LOL, you hate war and killing but still you call Zionist Jews "the worst filthy creatures"?
Sick.
Dodec84 3 years ago 8
Funny, as it turns out, Truman wasn't all about the saving lives. He could have ended the war in May of '45, by letting the Emperor stay in power. But he didn't for three reasons:
1.) He wanted to Scare the Soviets, who thought didn't know about the project.
2.) the Military spent 2 billion and wanted to test their new weapon.
3.) Because Americans wnated Revenge.!!!
I'm a historian so i know this for a fact, I know that alot of you have your own views but that's the truth:].
MJ0428 3 years ago
Oops i meant wanted on number 2.
MJ0428 3 years ago
You mean Revisionist Historian. There is absolutely NO evidence the Japanese would have capitulated under any circumstance, None. Most of the Japanese hierarchy was willing to sacrifice the entire population rather that surrender. It wasn't until Hirohito himself ordered the surrender that it happened and even then some of the military tried to stop it. Say whatever you want but the facts speak for themselves. Truman gave the Potsdam Declaration on 7/26, 2A-bombs later the Japs gave up on 8/14..
esmith4145 3 years ago
let me respectfully disagree with you, there IS evidence the Japs were going to surrender, letters, documents, back channel communications, all they wanted was a conditional surrender, even the US marshal commander of the Pacific and even the testimonies of people like Eisenhower, who definitely had inside information, were convinced that the japs were going to surrender and that the A-bombs were unnecessary, they threw it only as a show of force, which equals WAR CRIME
kajunshaman 2 years ago 2
Sorry but losing a War equals War Crimes, they're not war crimes when you win a war. The Japanese had every opportunity to capiltulate but they choose not to. The Japanese choose to invade Manchuria, they choose to murder civilians everywhere they landed in Asia, They choose to fight to the last man on Iwo Jima, Tinian, Saipan, Okinawa, They choose to Attack the U.S. without provocation or warning or even first declaring war and they choose to mistreat prisoners in a way never heard of before...
esmith4145 2 years ago
They were then warned that hell was a comin', again their response was a middle finger. Conditional surrender was not an option, not after sacrificing a generation. Luckily Truman learned a bunch during WWI and realized that conditional surrender to an undefeated Army/Enemy meant that you would be fighting them again in 10 or 20 years. Those two bombs saved millions of lives. I choose not to pass judgement on my Grandparents generation but instead honor them and thank them for their sacrifice.
esmith4145 2 years ago
I praise god that they had the guts to rid the world of tyranny and were willing to make that sacrifice. Superimposing 2009 knowledge on 1945 is ridicules. The Japanese were effectively defeated after Midway in 1942 but it still took 3 more years and millions of deaths, many of which were there own before they gave up. We liberated Europe and Asia and the only land we took was a plot big enough to bury our dead. The Japanese haven't attacked anyone in 64 years which is a record for them.....
esmith4145 2 years ago
al right, I think I understand you... you can commit all the crimes you want, as long as youre the winner, therefore you wont be considered a war criminal. You only a war criminal when you lose the war. well, under that logic it would not be far fetched to see the bizarre escenario of nazi germany judging the Allies for war crimes, had he won the war. Besides, your logic is not far from the inmorality that reigns nowadays, it's only victor's justice, but still inmoral and brutal, in my opinion
kajunshaman 2 years ago
The Japanese and Nazi's would still be murdering people if they would have won. There wouldn't one Jew, Gypsy, Russian or Chinese left in the world. I understand you now, you're from one of those countrys that have funny history books that claim the US and Britain were the Villians and the Nazi's and Japanese were innocent victims. The Rape of Nanking never happened, the holocaust never happened (except the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) but you enjoy all the benifits of a liberated world
esmith4145 2 years ago
Regardless of your views as to what the world would be like if the Allies had lost the war, the simple fact remains that the dropping of the bombs had nothing whatsoever to do with ending the war and getting Japan to surrender. They surrenedered because Stalin's invasion completely removed both of their remaining strategic options for securing better surrender terms. It's not about teaching 'funny' history, it's about teaching modern history with up to date research.
TavishHill 2 years ago
That's simply your opinion. US demanded an unconditional surrender and Japan wasn't willing to do it. Instead, they wanted to bleed the US slowly to force them to the negotiating table. After Okinawa, Japan's strategy would have worked. The US however wasn't willing to allow 1 million US citizen soldiers pay that price. Japan reaped what it sowed.
yarbles67 1 year ago
@yarbles67 You are assuming that the leadership here in the US was seriously worried about there even being such an invasion. They weren't because at the Potsdam conference a secret pact was made between Stalin and the US that he would invade no later than mid-August. Which he did. The terms that the US accepted were IDENTICAL to what the Japanese demanded (namely, the survival of their Emperor as the head of state).
TavishHill 1 year ago
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kajunshaman 2 years ago
im gonna correct you, how does being a historian mean you know what the reasons were, you can guess or deduce, but not know for a fact. The word history itself comes from the word for story, so don't comment so full of yourself, you have a job you are by no means omnicient
gremlinextreme101 2 years ago
Thank you. Very true. There is a lot of brainless & misplaced patriotism when the issue is brought to light.
biped19 2 years ago
Thank you for the video, you answered my assessment question.
click2112 3 years ago
don't mind about the language. it seems tut multicultural countries are especially sensitive to languages than non-multicultural countries. But how is that multi-cultural???
goldbergjkhm 3 years ago
The information is good, however the narrator totally sucks balls. Don't quit your day job, buddy.
neobatwoman 3 years ago
nobody won human race lost
delsur2009 3 years ago 2
Amarica has tons of nuclear weapons and they invade Iraq because they suspected they had nucs. Ironic
Invade America :P
Goudg 3 years ago
thats one half of the truth
sadam wanted us to invade
cause iran was planning to invade
the nucs were a lie but we basicly helped sadam
by protecting his country
but in the end he knew he was going to get caught
but it was a risk he was going to take for his country
thelooser101 3 years ago
nice accent
asorite 3 years ago
Einstein was just braught in, bechause of his friendship with the heads of Belgian Congo, who had the greatest amount of plutonium. Leó Szilárd wrote a letter, Albert signed after,(bechause of Alberts "name", something he later did regret) and sendt it to Roosevelt., about the nazi-nuclear threat. But the government reacted late, until they finally understood it. Then the biggest tecnologichal project to that date really started. General Grooves was the boss and organiser, and got the finances..
ingareinar007 3 years ago
Sorry, not plutonium, but Uranium..
ingareinar007 3 years ago
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You know 9,48 mins is to long, short and interesting PLEASE: im turning off, cram it in .
simonbayes1 3 years ago
But ofcourse, the real scary element was born too.
ingareinar007 3 years ago
Looks like someone think I am happy about this bomb??? I`m not!!
ingareinar007 3 years ago
Interesting video. Allso to read about the project that followed, "Operation Centerboard". (The plan to drop atomic bombs at Japanese cities)
ingareinar007 3 years ago
ma-ha-in
its Manhattan Project! say it right :P
Nice video
snake2534 4 years ago
No atomic bomb, no dignity and safety for a large country in the world.
Only you have such powerful weapon, you could have the right of expressing your opinions.
Otherwise, you must suffer from blackmail.
This is why some countries try their best to develop nuclear weapons and energy.
suhang1984 4 years ago
Afterwards, Robet Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein created the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs. These conferences received the nobel Prize fo Peace!
FiliberkeNys 4 years ago
Great Video ! What's up with the narrator. He's pulling that silent "T" thing.
i.e. Manha in Project.
The chicks from the valley in CT speak like that.
EarlofFife 4 years ago
history fair?
tkboy121 4 years ago
mhmm well i had to do history fair last year and the theme was triumph and tragedy.
bloodyzero 4 years ago
yea
tkboy121 4 years ago
history fair right?
bloodyzero 4 years ago
history day dumb shit
wterplo 4 years ago
i HATE the way this cunt talks.. why cant he say "Detotonate or Manhattan" properly.. wtf is his problem annoyed me.
alyxander 4 years ago
i dont know where to find it but there should be footage somewhere of the british atomic tests in australia in the 50's...i can remember shots of army personell watching the blast from very close and wearing no protection apart from sunglasses ..also the local aboriginal communities were not warned and were treated as guinea pigs to see the effects of radiation...these areas are still prohibited entry...hhhmmm
firebird63 4 years ago 2
some of the facts are wrong. Leo szillard, a hungarian was fearful that the germans were researching a fission bomb so he convinced einstein to approach roosevelt.
FacultyFan 4 years ago
very well done! (5 stars)
Troyan99 4 years ago
Thanks! Very educational.
geoffmthomas 4 years ago
My father worked at a K-25 plant at Oak Ridge. I MAY have spotted him on your video. Thanks!
shaman683 4 years ago
uhm, talk of the nuclear bomb was brought up by slzar and einstien. . .not openhiemer, he didnt come in the picture till later on in the big scene
sirleftwich 4 years ago
great vid man. Good job.
zbshogun 4 years ago
Thanks for watching. Feel free to comment.
tkboy121 4 years ago