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  • He was really, really nervous... but he did fine.

  • bernie, your singing out of key, tune, and time

  • Sumner on every video dont remeber lyrics ;)

  • God, Morris is totally absorbed by the music here.

  • They all look so young and cute! Aside from Hooky who looks like a 35 year old on about 40 fags a day with that beard.

    Steve Morris is a fantastic drummer. Unparalled even.

  • True Story: I once stayed in this crappy hotel and there was a selection of crappy videos in the cupboard... there was one video without a label, we gambled on that one, we put it in the video player and it was a VHS recording of this concert... Amazement!

  • Morris was definitely on fire here.

  • drummer awsome !

  • Best Song Ever, But Ian Curtis Voice is Very Much Better! The Radiohead Version is so Cool!

  • I was at this show. Fuck.

  • @thirtythree303 that is awesome...good on ya. i remember the first time i stumbled upon an old show i attended (a void show in philly circa 1986)...it made me feel old and young at the same time!

  • @thirtythree303 You lucky bastard

  • why cant i find a version where they actually tune their guitars properly . i think its deliberate

  • great song , long time ago , i Love to remind when I was 18 years with tracks like this ! Nice past.

    just posted in my blog -

    belfordmusic.blogspot.com

  • Steve Morris was ranked #5 on Stylus Magazines 50 Greatest Rock Drummers of All Time... and he is well -deserved

  • @ml2001 Nothing to say about Steve Morris. But Gran Hart only at number 42 on that rank!! Disgraceful.....

  • Truly awesome. This is what New Order is all about!

  • this is probably the best live version of this song available on youtube

  • They look so lost...

  • so raw and live; its fucking great

  • Great a/v quality for 1981. Barnie's vocals are shaky, especially at the beginning of the song.

  • The Joy Division songs were not written in Barney's key.

  • I pick up a very cunning strategy employed vis a vis sidewalk dog turds, the catcher's pound clean up routine, and the Sunday walk in the park exercise, so tedious to the cat owner and philosphers of Helios, an important point in the cusping over from Joy Division to New Order, in this performance, unnoted by me elsewhere.

  • 4:18 Summners hair looks like David Bowie's for a more than a moment there.

  • I was too broke to get down to this show. I regret it very much to this day.

  • Can you imagine if Ian had indeed made it to their tour of America how legendary those shows would've been???? Fuck 1970s medical technology and the way it treated epilepsy!!!!!!

  • I dig New Orders version, and don't get me wrong...I love them and they're music. I just love Joy Division. It is hard watching someone in Ian's place. I understand they have to go on, but it's hard to watch still. He does a great job., but...He's no Ian. and I know they know nothing can replace him, or his voice and presence. I tend to go on about this band, but they have been my favorite for 20 plus years. I could go on, but this post only allows me so many words...I tend to go on and on...

  • @wizzypops1 Ian sounds great on the albums, but he sounds like shit live. I think Barnie's got him beat in a live performance.

  • i like the looks bernie gives gillian

    

  • Anyone remember a music with New Order and Pet shop boys...they sang together???

  • @Mayda30 The band was called "Electronic". It was Bernard Sumner and Johnny Marr. The Pet Shop Boys collaborated with them on several songs. Look up "Getting Away With It".

  • @Mayda30 Electronic also sang Disapointed in around 1993, hope that helps mate!

  • It brings me to tears not seeing Ian up there.

  • @BabylonAGoGo yes but something else was born New Order

  • brilliant!

    

  • Amazing quality all the right angles I wish there were more videos of this quality especially for The Cure videos most are real bad I really enjoy the older stuff from the late 70's to the mid 90's and its hard to find it in this good of quality thank you for sharing

  • when pink floyd lost their singer songwriter, syd barrett, it took a little time for the new guy ,david, and richard and roger and nick to move forward. bernard seems so alone , and luckily ,survived overwhelming odds . having the greatest drummer and bassist on earth  may have helped. the exquisite beauty of pink floyd is tearfully equaled by this phenomenally talented group. the love out there for just these two bands is immeasurable,almost infinite. forever.

  • Stephen Morris... El Dios De Las Baquetas... ni hablar de Hooky... un excelente bajista...

  • Didn't Stephen say in some interview he wanted to be a drum machine? You are, my good man, you are.

  • Along with Reni, Stephen Morris is probably one of the best drummers out there.

  • This is inspiring to watch because this was about a year after Ian died, but they decided that they shouldn't stop with Joy Division....They wanted to play!

  • I'm not a drummer but shouldn't he be moving his wrists rather than his arms?

  • @TheBalloonHoax That was his style that made him so great:)

  • @charlie123abc360 OHHH cuz i saw the Radiohead cover and saw the dude moving his wrists. Stephen is da mad bombs in this band.

  • sumner's playing like an asshole here

  • @nscuriel ya he plays like that the entire set he's a machine

  • just so wounded. he knows he wasn't supposed to be the guy singing this song, but my gosh, he gives it such gravity. RIP Ian.

  • bringing some untouchable musically authenticity from old europe to new york city.

  • am i wrong or is Sumner trying to sing like Ian Curtis?

  • @fakeis751 I think so. Maybe Curtis just influenced him, but after working with "Electronic" (his side project) Bernard started singing like an idiot.

  • @012greenej that's true.

  • @012greenej Sumner cant sing, he's never tried to hide that fact. The only reason the sang was because nobody else wanted to (much like Curtis stepped in when they were forming Joy Division). It's more what he says and how it says it that's important.

  • @TalesOfWar I completley agreed with that, but I still prefered his early new order voice.

  • is it me or does pete look smart?

  • @Airwaves1914 He looks like Roy from The IT Crowd too.

  • For Peopleswar

    restored versions! I have this on an old crappy VHS that I recorded on Aust TV in 1982, particularly "Temptation" ! Love it. I played it that much that if I ever hear it I expect to hear Bob Seger's "Hollywood Nights straight after as it was next on the video tape. LOFL

  • This looks like it was filmed in 2011, not 1981. What quality.

  • @PeoplesWar i agree the quality is excellent for a 1981 show. the cure started around the same time as Joy division/ new order and i'm a huge collector of the cure material and anything from that old is really bad quality....the video at least. there are some great SB recording from the cure early days.

  • @JubeProductions and wechter 81 was good quality too ;)

  • i think they should have slowed it down a wee bit...but,in my opinion,nothing can compare to Ian's vocals..they are just so much more raw and heartfelt...i miss him,and i didn't know him at all,except through his music,and happily,he shall live on forever for it...which is beautiful...

  • I can't believe this is officially 30 years old now that it's new years (give or take some months). I remember how a friend of mine got me into punk, then he moved away in 1978 and I went back to listening to regular rock like RUSH and Zepplin. Then when I moved to a new town in 1981, I started listening to a new sound called "Post punk" well I listened to it befor in or around 1979 but really started to enjoy bands like Joy Division/New Order, Chameleons UK and The Jam and many others. ;)

  • Full Blast, FSR Road, Doors off...

  • such a good song

  • This Bernie guy looks pretty hot , were he and Curtis Lovers ?

  • toujours actuel jusqu' ç la fin

  • Best drummer ever lived, Stephen Morris.

  • one of ians best.wot you kill yourself for you daft cunt

  • hot damn, look at stephen morris go, he's a beast

  • 19 people dislike this?

    daft.

    bollocks to them.

  • 19 people dislike this?

    bollocks to them.

  • MORRIS YOU MACHINE!

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  • That drummer is on fire! :D

  • Man, this makes me sad. They LOOK like joy divison sans Ian curtis... they sound like joy division... but it's not joy division.

  • @einetutterauchen Well, it was a Joy Division song, so that makes sense I guess, and it wasn't that long after Ian's passing so I guess they were still in mourning. They never managed to get a full recording of this track as Joy Division, so it's nice to hear it "properly" so to speak (minus the obvious).

  • @einetutterauchen Their Better

  • Steve Morris is deffinatley some kind of robot.

  • @012greenej Yeah, he's got a MIDI sync to his cerebellum LOL.

  • @012greenej Amphetamine was big in Manchester in the 80s

  • And I hear it's brilliant. My favorite song on Joy Division's first is "Disorder"

  • I like New Order better than Joy Division... But then I haven't heard Joy Divisions second album...

  • @TheZachReed Better get to listening...

  • the best song i ve ever heard, IMO.

    its really funny, when you see videos from recent bands, they ALL want to play like the bands from 80es, with ties, old fashion clothes, etc.. but those shitty bands are pretty boring;

    long live Joy division!

  • the best song i ve ever heard, IMO.

  • Fantastic! Great song and great retropspective!

  • awkward,but so emotional...

  • This is why events unnerve me...

  • I agree, they would have make great music, ian should be 56 now, see, i let during one year and a half, an old cassette with joy division, i was on a bad mood at this time, and this music was a kind of ressourcing for me, with the voice of Ian so deep, so dark, we are missing you Mr Ian...................

  • But one is missin'

  • this sad makes me sad cause of ian :/

    and its weird seeing them perfom this song live like 30 years later ! they still sound so good.

  • Bernard had problems

  • @RossiJenkins only with you...

  • Bernard had problems

  • They Still Have That Joy Division Feel And Look! Love Em!

  • they were still clearly very much joy division at this time must have been heartbreaking to perform these tunes so soon after ians death

  • "picture me and then you'll stop watching." rest in peace.

  • OMG, the last one Curtis wrote

  • Steve Morris is amazing!

  • Faster...  but... Slower...

  • Fuck me coked up version or what?

  • this sounds so good live

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  • This song will forever give me the chills.

  • how can someone drum so fast, gr8 to know they continued so soon after IC died :)

  • ddddddddd ddddd ddddddddd ddddddddd dddddd

  • Imagine if Ian could've lived just a bit longer than maybe we could have seen a Joy Division concert in the kind of quality of this video. I can only imagine what that would've been like.

  • ? The first band to cover the greatest song by Joy Division, the greatest band ever!!!

  • Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • remember that new order essentially wrote ceremony, love will tear us apart, etc...they may have progressed the same way with or without Ian...still the new order albums hold up better than JD's...would they have written Blue Monday or Temptation with Ian still leading the band? Maybe but we'll never know.

  • @barbconch

    What are you talking about ? Ian Curtis wrote all the Joy Division's songs !

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  • @thebadthing505 He wrote all the lyrics.. Ian Curtis could barely play guitar so its hard to se how he could wrote the music aswell.

  • @Kusinjean

    Yep, Ian wrote all the lyrics, but barbconch said JD may have progressed the same way with or without him, and i'm not agree..

  • @thebadthing505 Well JD is more or less Ian Curtis so I agree with you on that point :)

  • @barbconch

    Quite right. Joy Division wrote maybe 5 great songs (Atmosphere, No Love Lost, Transmission and a couple of others). There's no way they'd have written "Your Silent Face", "Temptation" or "All The Way Home" with Ian at the helm..

  • @DamoSuzuki100 lol are you serious 5 great songs

  • @Mr19842074421

    Well, OK - 4 maybe (if you include Ceremony as one of them).

  • @DamoSuzuki100

    are you kidding me, only 5? I am not saying they are all masterpieces but there is more then 5 easily

  • @Hannya62

    List 'em. And you'll find I'm correct.

  • @DamoSuzuki100 - atmosphere - 24 hours - candidate - ceremony - digital - no love lost - transmission - shadowplay - a means to an end - disorder - insight - novelty - dead souls - the eternal - something must break - love will tear us apart - from safety to where those are my picks 
  • @Hannya62

    Well, we're not going to convince each other, which is a good thing on the whole ;-)

    Pedantically, I'd point out that "Ceremony" was pretty duff until recorded by New Order. And if I never hear "Love Will Tear Us Apart " again (!) I won't feel I've missed out.

    Mind you, the 4 or so songs I would pick ARE all on your list!

    Peace

  • @barbconch Well that depends if Ian would've been influenced by the New York club scene like the rest of the band were, the rest of the band members say I an used to bring Kraftwerk records to rehearsals so perhaps they would have progressed in a similar path if Ian lived. One thing is for sure though, the lyrics to all the songs would be entirely different.

  • i just picked up an original pressing of this song and in a lonely place.

  • The army that marches with Steven Morris before it is indestructible

  • You guys do know this WAS a joy division song, right? It's ians lyrics, that's why bernards singing so low. This and 'in a lonely place' were the last j/d songs and both recorded by new order. There's a live version with Ian singing on the Still record.

    Rusty, but beautiful. A sort of tribute, really.

  • is stephen morris the fastest drummer in macclesfield or what??

  • @Salfordbluemoon Try the fastet drummer ever.

  • What If?????

    

  • This is so good. I love this song. Poor Stephen Morris looks like he could use a towel, but that's the price you pay for rocking out. You can tell that he's still getting used to drumming at a faster pace.

  • stephen morris stays amazing.

  • would of loved to have been at that gig-----

  • Ceremony is the only song that I can say feels like it's actually moving. No other song has such momentum and motion as this song to me, especially this performance of it. Possessing.

  • One of the most awesome early 80's singles ever.Still proud to own my 12 inch copy.

  • .....whizzing off their mammaries i think.........

  • Beutiful song...but you are not Ian curtis...

  • @violator2591 I think he was better than Curtis, mesmerising and menacing around 81/82 and better than JD or the New Order that followed

  • Does anyone know what other bands that played at this show?

  • This is AMAZING!

  • Poor guys ... Ian's death was quite recent at this time. New Order is about to find thier origional sound!

  • when i die they should play this tune on my funeral

  • @kissmiazz01 i was thinking about it! wooo

  • @kissmiazz01 with you

  • @kissmiazz01 - same thoughts here ,when i die this a song should be played at my funeral too hahah

  • bernard is clearly trying to carry on the curtis aesthetic...I love it

  • ... beautiful

  • Avenues all lined with trees

  • How could a band that seems so SHY have done so much?!

  • because they're mancs :)

  • @charliekkendo

    not really shy lads I don't think; just Bernie carrying Curtis's shadow still then.

  • @theFirecat00 They always seemed shy to me. Don't they normally not give interviews? Of course, I'm in the states so there was never a lot of press about this group, what we used to call "alternative" music back then.

  • Linda uma das melhores...é muito emocioante esta musica

  • THEY LOVE YOU MORE WHEN YOU'RE DEAD

  • i love how slow and regretful the first two notes on the guitar are, and then it picks up (but is still regretful)

  • Can you get these NYC tracks on Audio CD ?

  • finally know the name of this song.

    one of the best ever songs 5/5.......xD

  • Bernie never wanted to be the singer, but IMO he has done a great job over the years.

    You just cannot replace Ian Curtis as he was so visual as well as a brilliant singer.

    This song is the last song to be performed with Ian and is my personal favorite New Order song too.

  • No, the last song performed with Ian was Digital

  • feel it closing in....

  • Avenues all lined with trees

  • they probably missed Ian so much

  • Yeah, I would be a little bit sad if my friend, main songwriter and fellow band member had snapped his neck in a kitchen in Manchester.

  • This is one of the great early songs.

    I love the mood of the whole of this concert. It is consistent with the perceived attitude of the band at the time, who had been getting very irritated with continual inane questions about Joy Division from the media. It is great that it was filmed.

  • like joy division :) nice

  • @dzejli but could they really replace Ian?

  • NEVER :) !!!! but NEW ORDER sounds really good. In spite of they are alike JD, they have their own tone.

  • I think I really prefer Ian Curtis

    never really got into new order..

  • New Order IS Joy Division! Ian Curtis died... so can't do much about it

  • I really find it funny how some people are unaware that New Order are the remaining members of JD, and start slaging NO. I grew up in the 80's and being a fan of one of those band and not knowing the other would be almost unheard of. I've seen this lot in this decade. I'm sure there were people aloof of this in the 80's too, but nobody I knew and people who listend to NO & JD were a select group of individuals back then.

  • you are mad. new order wrote all of the music of joy division/so..fuck off.

  • That is justa dumb statement, when it's the same group, except one guy died... get over it.. they did..

  • Best joydivision song to me...

    As rafcore said, each one is at his peak, summit of creation, incredible song, no song sounds like this!!!!!

  • The intro in this version is flawless.