This movie was brilliant. But when i saw Bonded By Blood i was significantly appauled, especially at that little wog poofter who played Darren Nichols.
@TheStaffy75 There was a time when they were going to make such a film. Out of all the actors that auditioned, Lenny himself chose craig to play the part. The film however, was never made as you are aware.
If ever a film was to be made of the life of, Lenny or indeed shaw, I would hope it showed them in true persona, by that I mean showing the weaker side. Too many films are made where the the hard man is hard and nothing else. The Kray film being an exception.
thaT FELLA WHO PLAYED TUCKER MADE ME LAFF SO MUCH LA WHERN HE SAYS TO CARLTON WEAR AFF U BEEN THIS PLACE IS FULL OF WALL TO WALL FANNY ITS THE WAY HE SAYS IT AND THE PART WEAR HE KNOCKED CRAIG OUT OF THE WINDOW AND CRAIGS SHOUTS FUCKIN HELL TO U COULD OF KILLED ME AND TUCKER SAYS YEA I SHOULD OF FUKIN DONE SO FUNNY TUCKER WAS IN THE MOVIE HATS OF TO THE ACTOR
Agreed Craig Fairbrass gave us a great portrait of this character, I'm really pleased for him & the deserved sucess he's had ... I actually got to know him quiet well back in the mid to late eighties when he had a cafe in Woolwich & between you me & a few of Youtubers out there, he could probably bash the crud out of half of the vermin & toss bags that he impersoates!.. I ain't kiddin' either, but fortunately he's a really nice bloke!
BTW, ICF & fat lumpy bouncers from Essex are pissflaps
craig fairbrass plays pat tate alot better than tamer hassan in bbb,he,s alot more explosive and was around the same physical build.should of used him in bonded by blood.
yeah craig fairbrass was the bollocks as pat tate,terry stone was ok as tony tucker too but that little geek was a shit craig rolfe and they potrayed him as a tart?craig rolfe was a psychotic animal too,i was gutted with bonded by blood,thought it was shit,terry stone made a worse job of tony tucker somehow(tried to hard i think)and tamwar hassan(a turk)as pate tate,wtf!all wrong,only good thing about bonded was the fact that neil maskell actually palyed a good craig rolfe,bonded=shit rise=power
Dont waste your time even glancing at this bag of shit. Complete and utter wank.....he doesnt rise to any power, his mob (of 3...wow) are a bunch of fags who go around bashin small boys in restaurants who then eventually get raped by the turkish mafia and then by an old guy with a shotgun in a field somewhere. He spends his time doing NOTHING throughout the movie except drinking in random pubs and scowling alot.
Craig Fiarbrass is fuckin brill in this film!!! wish he could of been like this in Eastenders! wouldn't mind seeing Ray Winstone in Eastenders though, because that soap just don't have a proper hard bastard!
Agreed. As did all the main characters apart from Ricci Harnnet. For heavens sake why choose a man who is that tiny to play Carlton Leech? It ruined the film i think.
He played it so well i get the impression he didn't even need to act. If Hollywood are looking for another British hardman in the Vinnie Jones mould, they've got their man!
pat fucking tate was a piece of fuckin low life scum who deserved both those shotgun shells the only decent one out of all of them was carlton leech for fuck sake the other three were just trouble causing wankers who got what was comin to them
Well, alot of people try to enhance there physic with a little help from certain chemicals mixed with cocaine but all it does is fuck you up in the end and it looks like that was Pat Tates real downfall to be honest.I dont really know much about the man maybe you knew him or know something about him im just going on hearsay and movies.
To be honest i dont have alot of sympathy for gang related to people to die in gang related situations especially when they run pizza blades across peoples faces for not giving them toppings.But this Tate guy was on steroids and cocaine no wonder this guy went of the rails.
The cannabis may have been out of his blood system but u can tell iif some1 was smoking it because it leaves traces of it in the hair and u can tell ruffly when they had their last joint with hair its complicated but its all true
So what? Alot of this has been blown out of proportion. They were surveying a farm in the sleepy Essex village of Rettendon not going down a back alley in Detroit. Who could have imagined that they were about to be blown away there especially as they were supposedly feared hardmen.
Tate was'nt addicted to heroin, O' mahoney talks out of his rectum. Tate dabbled in heroin occassionally but he most certainly did'nt have a habit. Look at his physique - does that look like someone whos hooked on fucking heroin? lol The fact of the matter is Tate dabbled in loads of things but never really got into much and stuck with it thats why he died an unemployed fantasist.
You certainly would'nt be bothering to train at the gym everyday like he did if you were a smackhead. Also your cheeks sink in when you have a habit he just looked too healthy. I've never heard of an 18 stone bodybuilder with a smack habit before!
I could believe tucker was abusing heroin though. He looked a wreck when he was murdered. He was once a huge bodybuilder but on the morgue table he had the body of an old man.
Mick and Jack are guilty as far as i'm concerned. It's hard to believe it when you look at them but Darren Nicholls testimoney fits in with the mobile phone records it's too much of a coincidence.
Neither man had ever been convicted of violent crimes...Whomes had had no contact with the victims....Steele had been importing/smuggling drugs for years...people
Wholmes crapped his pants when questioned and insisted to the police he had never been to rettendon. When police showed him evidence that he had been there he admitted it and said he was picking up an old car from a pub near the murder scene. Why did he not say that to start with? Open and closed case if you ask me.
im not that clued up with wot happened regarding the essex boyz but if this film is based on a true story then that pat tate n tony tucker wer crazy muthafuckaz n yeh the drugs had alot 2 do with it lol fuck me ,u eva mixed xtc with coc while puffin on a joint ooooooooweeeeeee
tell you what mate, if you liked the movie or not. they still look like some of the craziest fucks i have everseen. and some of the people in america think they know crazy. i like the fact that Ricci character did most of his damage by beat the bulb out of someone, not like picks in the U.S. all they know how to do is shoot. not heart no heart at all. they have no idea what respect is. they just run around with guns trigger happy to shoot anyone.
Tucker was in good shape a few years earlier - he's quite buffed up in the pics of him with Carlton in Muscle, but he is WAY overweight when he died - Tate was in okay shape when he died but not like wen he was in prison.
Pabby Tate was in perfect shape when he died. Look at his massive shoulders. He obviously does'nt look as good dead as he would alive because his muscles had relaxed. When he was flexed he looked even bigger.
Always makes me laugh when you read news stories on this case and they quote the dead trio as "3 huge men" lol. Why bring Craig into it he was only 5'9" and about 11 stone!
as complete mavericks who were actually spoiling a good earner for so many other people. O' Mahoney bless him even though he is making money out of this refuses to comment on my theories...go figure
Ahh i think i know who you are lol! O'mahoney is an author he will obviously want this all to seem more mysterious than it is to keep up interest in the case so he can make more money. I never understood how he managed to make all this money out of those 3 as he was nothing to do with them. He just worked on Tuckers door for a short while.
Have really enjoyed our correspondance. I would be totally freaked out if you knew who I was...I doubt if you do...I was in Copenhagen when all this was going down. But do check out the film "the Pusher ". I would be interested to hear what you think . Good luck to you..
Muscle cant turn to "flab" muscle and fat are too seperate thyings. Ones metabolic the other is menobolic. When you die your muscle relaxes and shrinks due to lack of oxygen to the muscles, obviously! i can assure you tucker and tate were huge bastards. all steriods mind.
Tate was'nt huge naturally. Look at some of the pics of him - In his mums garden with Sarah and the one with his arms held out to his sides. He was a thin build which was made to look deceptively large by steroids. Look at his small hands and feet.
Tate was 6ft 1.5inches and Tucker was 6ft. They did'nt even look that tall - look at them in the pic with Bernard o mahoney. He is only 5'9" and they don't look much different.
I thought they would be 6'3''. I read o mahoneys book Essex boys. He was saying that he was a key member of firm. He isnt mentioned at all in the film. And a lot of contraditions to Carltons book ''Muscle''
Bernard was nothing to do with the firm. He was a doorman who was employed by Tucker to keep his mouth shut about certain dealers entering the club. Basically he is the Paul Burrel of the underworld and does'nt know when to zip it lol!
Mahoney is the Paul Burell of the underworld. He was employed by Tucker to keep his mouth shut about certain dealers entering the club and now Tuckers dead he is making up bullshit to make money. Mahoney is a police informer and a close friend of important journalists he is nothing to do with the underworld.
Their heights are often contradicted. Tucker has been anywhere from 5'11 to 'well over 6 feet in the media and Tate 6'2" - 6'8". If Tate was 6'8" and only weighed 18 stone he would look rather anorexic lol
They were all stoned when they were shot. They had been puffing on the way to workhouse lane thats why the sunroof was open and why they did'nt move from their seats.
If Pat was so feared why was he shot on 2 seperate occassions? Once by 5'6" Steve "Nipper" Ellis and the second time by that illiterate slap head Wholmes. The guy was a fucking idiot he thought having a few stone more muscle than your average man made you invincible.
Why are you insulting London1245711? He's got every right to think Pat Tate was an crazy deluded idiot. He was, and Craig Fairbrass isn't denying that fact. With his muscles, steroids, dope, coke and ecstacy in his veins he thought (mistakenly) that he was untouchable. This film is not making him out to be the biggest gangster in the world, 'cos he wasn't.
Exactly Pabby. I did'nt like the fact he got murdered but it was obvious to anyone with a brain it was going to happen because he was a bully and was irrational. The night he was gunned down they were so doped up that they were'nt even aware they were being shot at.
Really? Do you remember David Darradine's cameo in mean streets where he is REALLY drunk, and a young hitman comes in and shoots him - he's so pissed he keeps chasing him again and again - it just hasn't dawned on him he's getting shot.
The autopsy on Pat showed massive amounts of cannabis and heroin etc in his blood stream. No wonder the dozy cunt just sat there when the killer opened fire lol. If i saw my two mates getting shot in front of me i'd out out of there in a second.
Herion, probably. Cannabis, no. You cant prove he was high on cannabis. THC is out of the blood 2-4 hours after smoking, and drug tests [blood tests also] test for the cannabinoids left over, which can last for months. So theres no evidence he WAS stoned that night.
craig really looks like tate good film
joydivision808 3 months ago
This movie was brilliant. But when i saw Bonded By Blood i was significantly appauled, especially at that little wog poofter who played Darren Nichols.
humpyhustler 11 months ago
This is one of the best movies I've seen!!! I've watched it like 10 times and can't get enough of it...must be all the birds and fanny!!!
rhines68442 1 year ago
gilbey should do a film about fighter lenny mclean and get fairbrass to play him,he was the best actor in footsoldier.
TheStaffy75 1 year ago
@TheStaffy75 There was a time when they were going to make such a film. Out of all the actors that auditioned, Lenny himself chose craig to play the part. The film however, was never made as you are aware.
If ever a film was to be made of the life of, Lenny or indeed shaw, I would hope it showed them in true persona, by that I mean showing the weaker side. Too many films are made where the the hard man is hard and nothing else. The Kray film being an exception.
AnglOsAxOn2 1 year ago
Why kevin mckidd not in there?
darksidecomm 1 year ago
thaT FELLA WHO PLAYED TUCKER MADE ME LAFF SO MUCH LA WHERN HE SAYS TO CARLTON WEAR AFF U BEEN THIS PLACE IS FULL OF WALL TO WALL FANNY ITS THE WAY HE SAYS IT AND THE PART WEAR HE KNOCKED CRAIG OUT OF THE WINDOW AND CRAIGS SHOUTS FUCKIN HELL TO U COULD OF KILLED ME AND TUCKER SAYS YEA I SHOULD OF FUKIN DONE SO FUNNY TUCKER WAS IN THE MOVIE HATS OF TO THE ACTOR
scattyballs 1 year ago
@scattyballs Something about when he yells "COME ERE WANKER!" really cracks me up
EviscerationK 5 months ago
Agreed Craig Fairbrass gave us a great portrait of this character, I'm really pleased for him & the deserved sucess he's had ... I actually got to know him quiet well back in the mid to late eighties when he had a cafe in Woolwich & between you me & a few of Youtubers out there, he could probably bash the crud out of half of the vermin & toss bags that he impersoates!.. I ain't kiddin' either, but fortunately he's a really nice bloke!
BTW, ICF & fat lumpy bouncers from Essex are pissflaps
nackkers 1 year ago
craig fairbrass plays pat tate alot better than tamer hassan in bbb,he,s alot more explosive and was around the same physical build.should of used him in bonded by blood.
TheStaffy75 1 year ago
Danny Dyer would of played a great craig Rolfe!
southlondon80 1 year ago
@southlondon80
Fuck no! Dyer is a cringeworthy mockney, Manookian was perfectly cast as was everyone except the guy who plays Carlton.
spliffster123 1 year ago
yeah craig fairbrass was the bollocks as pat tate,terry stone was ok as tony tucker too but that little geek was a shit craig rolfe and they potrayed him as a tart?craig rolfe was a psychotic animal too,i was gutted with bonded by blood,thought it was shit,terry stone made a worse job of tony tucker somehow(tried to hard i think)and tamwar hassan(a turk)as pate tate,wtf!all wrong,only good thing about bonded was the fact that neil maskell actually palyed a good craig rolfe,bonded=shit rise=power
inthere1981 1 year ago 2
up this :D
MasTeRnoOkz 1 year ago
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Dont waste your time even glancing at this bag of shit. Complete and utter wank.....he doesnt rise to any power, his mob (of 3...wow) are a bunch of fags who go around bashin small boys in restaurants who then eventually get raped by the turkish mafia and then by an old guy with a shotgun in a field somewhere. He spends his time doing NOTHING throughout the movie except drinking in random pubs and scowling alot.
Terminator860 1 year ago
craig made that film
MrRyan200 1 year ago 3
@MrRyan200 agreed. great acting. they should have used him in bonded by blood.
mgtkr1 1 year ago
@mgtkr1 I havent seen bonded by blood yet, whats it like?
MrRyan200 1 year ago
@MrRyan200 Fuck knows mate!?
sim0b 1 year ago
@MrRyan200 Its not the best mate to be honest quite inaccurate worth a scan but no where near as good as ROTFS
Caladonga 1 year ago
great movie......Superb story + well made!
hearts76100 1 year ago
all played there roles good accept roland as craig he was terrible
leedumett444 1 year ago
@leedumett444 I agree he was very childish and ruined the film.
Terminator860 1 year ago
he plays tate so well i begun to hate him for real lol
cafcwebbluke 1 year ago
Where's Imran Zhaekev when you need him lolol
linebackertwo 1 year ago
LOL Craig wore fake tattoos for playing the part! Yes, weve found you out Fairbrass! Fake git lol.
Terminator860 1 year ago
you expect him to get real tattoos for a film part?
samreus 1 year ago
Is Mickey in this video Billy Murray aka Price? Sounds like him.
Dawn3R 1 year ago
@Dawn3R
Yes, the guy named 'Mickey' is Captain Price.
Dragonich777 1 year ago
Considering he's been in Hollywood and British films, I think more people know him as Gaz and Ghost in Modern Warfare 1 and 2.
matt1992c 2 years ago
Lets Do This !
nikkolei 2 years ago
i think of Gaz rather than Ghost when i hear his voice lol
JoKiMETAL 2 years ago
me too
Gaz was first but still they are both great characters
itzDOSU 2 years ago
He was my soccer camp coach when I was a kid. Awesome guy.
vooosh2k 2 years ago
Funny both Gaz and Captain Price are in the same movie haha, or Ghost too but thats hilarious
AshockisCool 2 years ago
lol cpt price , gaz and ghost in this movie together i need to watch this.
sjk5000 2 years ago
his voice is bad ass
sjk5000 2 years ago
Bloody Yanks! I thought they were the good guys.
Thugsta96 2 years ago
hahaha yeah that was funny in MW2
tstokemb 2 years ago
Craig Fairbrass said Darren, Mickey, right?, Mickey was portrayed by Billy Murray-Captain Price. This is a FACT
halofanaticboy 2 years ago
His voice is so cool!
GHOST!!!!!!!
Senquell 2 years ago
"Gaz?"
"Yeah, how we doing? Just having a little reunion here, mate. See me and these blokes go way back. This here's Soap...Captain Price."
THEFIRSTAVENGERUSA 2 years ago
Gaz, Ghost, his voice is fucking badass!
LastxResort67x 2 years ago
its gaz and ghost this guy plays as gaz and ghost bill murry plays as price
alexkoohyar5 2 years ago
GAZZZZZZZ GHOST
cuti91 2 years ago
Gaz and Ghost!
chubbster321 2 years ago
1:04 thats the voice actor for Price as well....awesome
antwanman12 2 years ago
@antwanman12 meant :10
antwanman12 2 years ago
Price's voice actor is Billy Murray.
TheDarkberserk 2 years ago
I think everyones looking at this to see who Ghost and Gaz are.
phlyegles43 2 years ago
yeah true Gaz and ghost !!whoo
09165356594 2 years ago 2
Lol, its GAZ!!!! ... and Ghost haha
Moderm101 2 years ago 2
propa good job m8! :)
EddieOrable 2 years ago 2
Gaz :D
Dawn3R 2 years ago 2
price and ghost/gaz together in real life just chilling down the boozer. so thats what they look like in their civvies on a day off.
chattea02 2 years ago
prices moutache is the secret of his powers
Hennersbass 2 years ago
He's about to get even more famous with his very own Ghost game.
crazyjtay99 2 years ago 2
ok ok ok. who was cooler, ghost or gaz?
sportsxguy22 2 years ago
Ghost because of his mask.
MuscleBeatsImport 2 years ago
Both of them were heoes and great soldiers...
Greg0516 2 years ago
ZOMFG :|!! Captain price and Gaz / Ghost (same guy) in 1 film :O !! Great movie though this. Beside half call of duty 4 is in it. haha
7Rohu7 2 years ago 10
@7Rohu7 oh shit, for some reason i always thought it was ross kemp lol, should hav read the credits
ultimatedynamo1 1 year ago
its wierd, Craig Fairbrass is already a star among gamers, however noone has ever heard of him in film. Just an observation, hes cool tho
EIN771 2 years ago
he started as dan in eastenders
paperandtea 2 years ago
didnt know that! i dont watch eastenders but thanks anyway
EIN771 2 years ago
Craig Fairbrass is enormous man jeez
BLAKEYBBLAKEY 2 years ago
i met him a few years back he was in Derby, I dont know what for but he was signing some pictures of him and handing them out, hes extremly tall
MrJustwatches 2 years ago
haha, cpt price and gaz having the drink they planned at the end of cod4. no sgt griggs though
ashmaceyn 2 years ago 2
Captain Price and Gaz lol but where the hell is Imran Zakhev and his son lolol
linebackertwo 2 years ago
Yevgeni Lazarev is Imran Zakhaev
NallePu83 2 years ago
BTW Capt Price is "Mickey" @ 0:10
mattutubematt 2 years ago 2
OMFG
Capt Price & Gaz in One Film??? :DDDD
mattutubematt 2 years ago 4
Craig Fiarbrass is fuckin brill in this film!!! wish he could of been like this in Eastenders! wouldn't mind seeing Ray Winstone in Eastenders though, because that soap just don't have a proper hard bastard!
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textvigilante 2 years ago
you certainly did make it as real as possible (as if i knew)...good job...good movie
mecagoentos 2 years ago 2
Craig Fairbrass plays Pat Tate's role in the film superbly
Nostix88 2 years ago 25
Agreed. As did all the main characters apart from Ricci Harnnet. For heavens sake why choose a man who is that tiny to play Carlton Leech? It ruined the film i think.
Terminator860 2 years ago
carlton leach was small height wise in reli life u idiot
steveparker999 2 years ago
Not THAT fucking small.
Terminator860 2 years ago 3
@Nostix88
He played it so well i get the impression he didn't even need to act. If Hollywood are looking for another British hardman in the Vinnie Jones mould, they've got their man!
spliffster123 1 year ago
lmfao nice wig ha ha ha
itsmeyouwantbadass 2 years ago
pat tates a farkin legend
phews07 3 years ago
pat fucking tate was a piece of fuckin low life scum who deserved both those shotgun shells the only decent one out of all of them was carlton leech for fuck sake the other three were just trouble causing wankers who got what was comin to them
Jimiriffman89 2 years ago
Carlton was no angel either. How can you call someone scum for being shot? They were the victims.
Terminator860 2 years ago
wow Price and GAZ same scene COOL!! lol
CoD4SniperDude 3 years ago 2
its rebecca moon walk away carnt find it anywhere
kezanddono 3 years ago
R.O.T.F.S is a good film.I'm glad Craig was in it,he played his part well.Wish he was in more films and tv.
BLAKEYBBLAKEY 3 years ago 3
whats the song when they are sat in a bar and there is a blonde woman playing a guitar and the lyrics are "walk away walk away" ????????
Sexorcist888 3 years ago
rebeca moon - walk away
111alien111 2 years ago
Lmao its GAZ and PRICE in the same scene amazing
camp0r182 3 years ago
i was like....no way that sounds like Gaz..then i heard murray and was like OMG Price! Fairbrass & Murray FTW
GhoLogOff121 3 years ago
whats the name of the song in that party ?
cepeidiot 3 years ago
its called U got to know and its by Capella
TomzyGuitar07 3 years ago
ITS FUCKING GAZ LOL!!!
camp0r182 4 years ago
un chien qui pilote un frigidaire
le chien va piloter le frigidaire
nailed2theX 4 years ago
OMG
GAZ AND CAPTAIN PRICE
viziki 4 years ago
Well, alot of people try to enhance there physic with a little help from certain chemicals mixed with cocaine but all it does is fuck you up in the end and it looks like that was Pat Tates real downfall to be honest.I dont really know much about the man maybe you knew him or know something about him im just going on hearsay and movies.
Branewbie 4 years ago
His downfall was his gob, his drugs and his muscles. They gave him the confidence to do stupid wreckless things.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
To be honest i dont have alot of sympathy for gang related to people to die in gang related situations especially when they run pizza blades across peoples faces for not giving them toppings.But this Tate guy was on steroids and cocaine no wonder this guy went of the rails.
Branewbie 4 years ago
He did'nt do that in real life he just pushed the guys head into the draining board.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
Oh well that's ok then is it?
PABBY75 4 years ago
Why do you hang around these videos if they disturb you you fucking nob?
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
you're such a wannabe bouncer , you cunt.
PABBY75 4 years ago
you're such a wannabe bouncer , you cunt.
PABBY75 4 years ago
Pabby you are some sort of upper class cunt fuck off and look at something different. Boffin.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
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Arnold you twat
PABBY75 3 years ago
fuckin paki cunt
bbuck15 3 years ago
omfg who the fuck are you...wanna be fucking prick who looks shit up on the internet...you dont know shit about real life so fuck off cunt
stuckinthought 3 years ago
who sang the song at the end of this film.lost and confused i think it's called
Elpadroni187 4 years ago
its ausitn howard- heaven knows isnt it.
1chronical1 4 years ago
The cannabis may have been out of his blood system but u can tell iif some1 was smoking it because it leaves traces of it in the hair and u can tell ruffly when they had their last joint with hair its complicated but its all true
GemmaAmyMcGrath 4 years ago
Why werent they not tooled up ? Youd think that crazy mothers like these guys would have
been at all times.....Whomes and Steele are
innocent ....the people who did this are out there still .....
lehipster 4 years ago
Why would you tool yourself up just to survey a drugs drop with a friend?
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Drugged up as they were....they must of been aware that they were starting to step up a
league and that they had left a lot of customers/associates unhappy in the minor
league....Im sure Tate had ripped off Noye..
lehipster 4 years ago
So what? Alot of this has been blown out of proportion. They were surveying a farm in the sleepy Essex village of Rettendon not going down a back alley in Detroit. Who could have imagined that they were about to be blown away there especially as they were supposedly feared hardmen.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Also according to O'Mahoney , the writer, Tate had become addicted to heroin...and so
you can be sure of the ensuing paranoia, which would suggest he should have been armed. If they werent armed what would that
suggest....
lehipster 4 years ago
Tate was'nt addicted to heroin, O' mahoney talks out of his rectum. Tate dabbled in heroin occassionally but he most certainly did'nt have a habit. Look at his physique - does that look like someone whos hooked on fucking heroin? lol The fact of the matter is Tate dabbled in loads of things but never really got into much and stuck with it thats why he died an unemployed fantasist.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Heroin doesnt affect your physique until after a number of years...and people can lead
fairly normal lives on the stuff if they know
how to administer it . Look at Elvis. It seems to me all of them were mixing and matching too much
lehipster 4 years ago
You certainly would'nt be bothering to train at the gym everyday like he did if you were a smackhead. Also your cheeks sink in when you have a habit he just looked too healthy. I've never heard of an 18 stone bodybuilder with a smack habit before!
Andy1245711 4 years ago
I could believe tucker was abusing heroin though. He looked a wreck when he was murdered. He was once a huge bodybuilder but on the morgue table he had the body of an old man.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
I accept your point. I am only quoting O'Mahoney m8 ....all I know is that the men
banged up for the murder seem to me to be
innocent. Thats what I am more concerned about.
lehipster 4 years ago
To be honest with you Im more up on Copenhagen gangsters...If you like these kind
of films check out the Pusher trilogy....great gangster movies with a moral
...dont get involved...last London gangster I
had a drink with was Johnny Bindon
lehipster 4 years ago
Mick and Jack are guilty as far as i'm concerned. It's hard to believe it when you look at them but Darren Nicholls testimoney fits in with the mobile phone records it's too much of a coincidence.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Neither man had ever been convicted of violent crimes...Whomes had had no contact with the victims....Steele had been importing/smuggling drugs for years...people
in the know actually suspect the filth...
lehipster 4 years ago
Wholmes crapped his pants when questioned and insisted to the police he had never been to rettendon. When police showed him evidence that he had been there he admitted it and said he was picking up an old car from a pub near the murder scene. Why did he not say that to start with? Open and closed case if you ask me.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
No it dont.
alanhill61 4 years ago
Thats called steriods!
alanhill61 4 years ago
im not that clued up with wot happened regarding the essex boyz but if this film is based on a true story then that pat tate n tony tucker wer crazy muthafuckaz n yeh the drugs had alot 2 do with it lol fuck me ,u eva mixed xtc with coc while puffin on a joint ooooooooweeeeeee
anglo66 4 years ago
Of course they were crazy thats why they got shot in the face with a shotgun ffs!
London1245711 4 years ago
tell you what mate, if you liked the movie or not. they still look like some of the craziest fucks i have everseen. and some of the people in america think they know crazy. i like the fact that Ricci character did most of his damage by beat the bulb out of someone, not like picks in the U.S. all they know how to do is shoot. not heart no heart at all. they have no idea what respect is. they just run around with guns trigger happy to shoot anyone.
ishbla 4 years ago
Can't believe how skinny Tony Tucker was when he was murdered. He looks like a puny weed laying on that morgue table.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Skinny!!? He looks really fat and not in great shape. Tucker is the one with white stripes down his blue top. The skinny one is Rolfe - fact.
PABBY75 4 years ago
Yeah sorry Pabby i meant skinny as in all his muscle had dissapeared. It had actually turned to flab you are right. Craig was just skin and bone.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Tucker was in good shape a few years earlier - he's quite buffed up in the pics of him with Carlton in Muscle, but he is WAY overweight when he died - Tate was in okay shape when he died but not like wen he was in prison.
PABBY75 4 years ago
Pabby Tate was in perfect shape when he died. Look at his massive shoulders. He obviously does'nt look as good dead as he would alive because his muscles had relaxed. When he was flexed he looked even bigger.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Always makes me laugh when you read news stories on this case and they quote the dead trio as "3 huge men" lol. Why bring Craig into it he was only 5'9" and about 11 stone!
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Also....people I have got to know who were
involved in the rave culture saw these three
as complete mavericks who were actually spoiling a good earner for so many other people. O' Mahoney bless him even though he is making money out of this refuses to comment on my theories...go figure
lehipster 4 years ago
Ahh i think i know who you are lol! O'mahoney is an author he will obviously want this all to seem more mysterious than it is to keep up interest in the case so he can make more money. I never understood how he managed to make all this money out of those 3 as he was nothing to do with them. He just worked on Tuckers door for a short while.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Youre as bright as a button ....and you are
right I have been lured into O'Mahoneys lair.
I am looking forward to his next book. However I will not buy it as his emails to me have shown him to be rather testy.
lehipster 4 years ago
Have really enjoyed our correspondance. I would be totally freaked out if you knew who I was...I doubt if you do...I was in Copenhagen when all this was going down. But do check out the film "the Pusher ". I would be interested to hear what you think . Good luck to you..
lehipster 4 years ago
Joseph?
Andy1245711 4 years ago
No m8....have you got hold of that Danish film yet ? Or would you like to continue to
diss my theories on the Range Rover case
lehipster 4 years ago
Joseph ! You are not having a religous experience are you.....HAPPY NEW YEAR
lehipster 4 years ago
Sorry, my mistake i thought you were Jo public. What are your theories Lehipster?
Andy1245711 4 years ago
Not really perfect shape was he! steriod induced muscle is only good for short bursts.
alanhill61 4 years ago
Muscle cant turn to "flab" muscle and fat are too seperate thyings. Ones metabolic the other is menobolic. When you die your muscle relaxes and shrinks due to lack of oxygen to the muscles, obviously! i can assure you tucker and tate were huge bastards. all steriods mind.
alanhill61 4 years ago
Tate was'nt huge naturally. Look at some of the pics of him - In his mums garden with Sarah and the one with his arms held out to his sides. He was a thin build which was made to look deceptively large by steroids. Look at his small hands and feet.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
I read recently that Tate was 6ft8''. He dosent look that in the fotos. What height was he really and Tucker also?
Herrosivich 4 years ago
Tate was 6ft 1.5inches and Tucker was 6ft. They did'nt even look that tall - look at them in the pic with Bernard o mahoney. He is only 5'9" and they don't look much different.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 4 years ago
I thought they would be 6'3''. I read o mahoneys book Essex boys. He was saying that he was a key member of firm. He isnt mentioned at all in the film. And a lot of contraditions to Carltons book ''Muscle''
Herrosivich 3 years ago
Bernard was nothing to do with the firm. He was a doorman who was employed by Tucker to keep his mouth shut about certain dealers entering the club. Basically he is the Paul Burrel of the underworld and does'nt know when to zip it lol!
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 3 years ago
Mahoney is the Paul Burell of the underworld. He was employed by Tucker to keep his mouth shut about certain dealers entering the club and now Tuckers dead he is making up bullshit to make money. Mahoney is a police informer and a close friend of important journalists he is nothing to do with the underworld.
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 3 years ago
Their heights are often contradicted. Tucker has been anywhere from 5'11 to 'well over 6 feet in the media and Tate 6'2" - 6'8". If Tate was 6'8" and only weighed 18 stone he would look rather anorexic lol
ArnoldSwarzeneggar75 3 years ago
your a fucking nobody who dont know shit shut your fucking mouth
stuckinthought 3 years ago
eerm no offence bud but tony and dat pat and carlton were solid muscly guy (sorry about spellings)
hdfkd 4 years ago
Tony was'nt when he was killed. His shoulders had lost their size and his chest was non exsistant. Impressive belly though! lol
Andy1245711 4 years ago
ohh ok lol ma bad
hdfkd 4 years ago
They were all stoned when they were shot. They had been puffing on the way to workhouse lane thats why the sunroof was open and why they did'nt move from their seats.
Andy1245711 4 years ago
i thought this film woz fucking quality and thought craig fairbass woz wicked in it
anglo66 4 years ago
5 OUT OF 10 MOVIE
TANGER23 4 years ago
i thought this film was rubbish...
SpaceLeopard 4 years ago
If Pat was so feared why was he shot on 2 seperate occassions? Once by 5'6" Steve "Nipper" Ellis and the second time by that illiterate slap head Wholmes. The guy was a fucking idiot he thought having a few stone more muscle than your average man made you invincible.
London1245711 4 years ago
i think your a bit ignorant mate, and a bit more dumb
the25thman 4 years ago
Why are you insulting London1245711? He's got every right to think Pat Tate was an crazy deluded idiot. He was, and Craig Fairbrass isn't denying that fact. With his muscles, steroids, dope, coke and ecstacy in his veins he thought (mistakenly) that he was untouchable. This film is not making him out to be the biggest gangster in the world, 'cos he wasn't.
PABBY75 4 years ago
Exactly Pabby. I did'nt like the fact he got murdered but it was obvious to anyone with a brain it was going to happen because he was a bully and was irrational. The night he was gunned down they were so doped up that they were'nt even aware they were being shot at.
London1245711 4 years ago
Really? Do you remember David Darradine's cameo in mean streets where he is REALLY drunk, and a young hitman comes in and shoots him - he's so pissed he keeps chasing him again and again - it just hasn't dawned on him he's getting shot.
PABBY75 4 years ago
The autopsy on Pat showed massive amounts of cannabis and heroin etc in his blood stream. No wonder the dozy cunt just sat there when the killer opened fire lol. If i saw my two mates getting shot in front of me i'd out out of there in a second.
London1245711 4 years ago
Herion, probably. Cannabis, no. You cant prove he was high on cannabis. THC is out of the blood 2-4 hours after smoking, and drug tests [blood tests also] test for the cannabinoids left over, which can last for months. So theres no evidence he WAS stoned that night.
LIP15 4 years ago