Why bother explaining the population increase, when you could just point out the fact NO ONE who believes in evolution thinks man has been around 3 MILLION YEARS. LMAO, why didn't you call him on that, its fucking hilarious.
I have been thinking of the "Supreme Being" idea, creating universes and controlling everything. Doesn't intelligence require the existence of a brain? And doesn't a brain require matter to exist? What, if the "Supreme Being" was just another word for knowledge? Could God simply be pure knowledge?
Knowledge is the only thing that is all powerful, everywhere at the same time and naturally knows everything. That way we had god and science united.
@PinheadOrPatriot The people who wrote the bible put in current and old event and places into it, thats why it's historical and archeological.
As far as eyewitness accounts, I don't care who sees a man make water into whine, create bret and fish, and walk on water; it's still not true or a good magic trick.
Even if it was true; who would worship someone who kills kids with bears, who says stoning people is ok, and who kills whole city's but lets the women and girls live to be raped later.
@bebop7c2 "The people who wrote the bible put in current and old event and places into it, thats why it's historical and archeological."
Yes, the same way Margaret Mitchell put Atlanta, slaves, and the Civil War into Gone With the Wind. I wonder if Pinhead would be saying that this means Rhett and Scarlet really existed if he lived 2000 years from now?
And yeah, all that and he couldn't even do the cups-and-balls?
@shanedk If the Bibles correct then everying simi-historically accurate must be true if it was written down, and what do we do about this God that tells people to rape women and stone people? I say we don't worship him.
It's important to believe things that are true my friend.
You are referring to: Daniel 12:1-4 "many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase". Yes, if many run to and fro, that's how news got spread in those times - no cellphones. In Jushua 10:12 Joshua prayed for the sun to stop, so that the Israelites had time to slaughter more Amorites. He wanted to gain time. What in the world makes you think, it means that the sun is stationary? No disrespect, but see: Ecclesiastes 1:5. True enough: God does not reveal all at once, like in a book.
@flamifer1 "What in the world makes you think, it means the sun is stationary?"
Because the other option is to stop the entire Earth from spinning, this would have devastating consequences for any one standing on the Earth at that time.
True. But that is not the issue here. PinheadOrPatriot, the person, my posting was addressed to, statet Joshua 10:12: "The sun stood still and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down about a whole day!"
He believes, that this bible passage meant to tell us, that the sun stands still and the earth revolves around it (as it does). I am having a hard time to believe, that this is, what Joshua 10:12 means. What is your opinion?
@flamifer1 That is ABSOLUTELY what the passage means. That fits completely with ancient Hebrew cosmology: a disc-shaped Earth surrounded by a firmament, on which were stuck the sun, moon, and stars. The Earth was mounted on pillars and surrounded by a vast ocean. You need to do a LOT of fanboy retcons to make the Bible comply with actual cosmology; you need to do nothing whatsoever to make it match what the ancient Hebrews believed.
@flamifer1 My opinion is that the statement in Joshua 10:12 has an assumption that the world is stationary. Because if the "sun stood still" that means the Earth stopped spinning. Unless Shane is correct and hallucinogens merely changed their perception of time.
Thank you for your comment on Joshua 10:12. A friend of mine, who is creationist mentioned it as proof, that the bible already knew, that the sun was in the center of the solar system: "the sun stood still".
I think, in the bible passage rather means to say, that Joshua wanted to gain time instead of telling us about astronomical facts.
@flamifer1 Exactly: the sun stood still FOR 24 HOURS so they could have more time, then started back up again. He can't POSSIBLY have read the passage if he said that!
@shanedk I assume this guys friend just read part of a passage off a website. Like people who use Ecclesiastes 1:6 to claim the bible talks about weather patterns when if you read the entire poem it claims the sun goes around the Earth and other nonsense in a depressing poem that could also double as communist propaganda.
@flamifer1 I agree that what it wanted to say was that Joshua not only wanted, but did gain time. Unfortunately in so doing it betrayed that the author didn't know how the solar system really worked. For the passage to be literally true. that would require a lot of crazy things from a physics stand point. Shane brings up the possibility in one of his posts that they could be trying to explain a hallucination from taking shrooms, personally I think the story is just fictitious.
I too believe, that Joshua's story is ficticious. Thank heavens, the world did not stop to rotate. But for people back then the sun was just a hot light attached to the sky, that could be stopped by god without much consequence. We have to ask oursevelves: Did our ancestors like to "enhance" the stories of their heroes in order to make them even more god-like? Is it possible, that all miracles in the bible were added later on by people eagerly promoting the new religion?
@PinheadOrPatriot No counter-evidence. Just a bogus argument from authority fallacy and tons of insults, some of which are just hilarious. Left wing? Really? Did you determine that from examining Shane's videos, or do you just assume anyone who doesn't buy your nonsense is left wing?
In my opinion the bible is a beautiful piece of art and tells us much about peoples' view of the world from 2,000 years ago. What our ancestors knew, but also, what they ignored. In Genesis, e.g., we are being told, that the moon is a light. To us, this may sound funny, but how could people back there know, that the moon merely reflects the light of the sun? Or: "And He also made the stars" This indicates, that they did not know what planets are.
@flamifer1 "how could people back there know, that the moon merely reflects the light of the sun?"
The Greeks, the Chinese, and probably many others figured it out, just by studying the phases. Not hard. They weren't even intelligent enough to be up with the scientific standard of the time! While the Hebrews were putting the finishing touches on the Old Testament, Eratosthenes had already measured the size of the world and Aristarchus had figured out that the planets orbited the sun!
@shanedk By the way, what's up with the recent activity thingy on youtube? I mean, I enjoy watching these conversations, but it seems like they aren't being tracked. Is youtube screwing up again?
True, but obviously the people who wrote the book of Genesis did not know it. Wouldn't they have described the moon as something else, but a "light in the sky" then? Other examples: "And He divided the light from the dark". Only a person, who does not know, what light is, would write something like this. Don't you think?
@flamifer1 "True, but obviously the people who wrote the book of Genesis did not know it."
My point is they theoretically COULD have known it with information available at the time. The fact that they didn't, and put in such incredibly wrong information, means the Bible isn't even up to date with the standards of the time, let alone modern science!
Definitively. Scientists, if we may call them like that, were a lot less connected and a lot of information got lost on the way. Another reason could be, that the knowledge did not fit with the old legends.
That makes sense. Several parts of the old testament, like Adam & Eve and Noah are definitively taken from slightly altered far older mesopotamian legends.
@PinheadOrPatriot "Numerous archeological, historical, and eyewitness accounts prove the contrary."
COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The Hebrews were never even IN Egypt, for example, much less enslaved for a long period of time. They left NO archaeological evidence of their 40 years in the desert, which absolutely positively should be there. On and on and on. You have NOTHING.
Many cultures over history made up magical supernatural answers to things like, Gods, fairy's, and other creatures. I'm not surprised the bible says people who don't believe are wrond or "wells without water". I am surprised people still believe in old fairy tales.
@PinheadOrPatriot All that blathering, and not a single rational point in it anywhere. Congratulations: you have created the world's first message with a NEGATIVE signal-to-noise ratio!
@PinheadOrPatriot No, our source is 150 years of observation and experimentation; your source is a bronze-age text written by a bunch of goat-herders.
Thousands of transitional fossils, loads of evidence in the genetic records, and 150 years of peer-reviewed science, ALL confirming it and NOT A SINGLE ONE falsifying it, EVOLUTION IS TRUE. Get over it.
May I suggest to discuss, what Mr. Hovind says in his video? One of his arguments for a young earth is, that we are "only" 6 billion people on earth now and not many trillion people. Do you think, he is right with this idea?
@PinheadOrPatriot Point out, in detail ONE SINGLE LIE I have told, WITH EVIDENCE. The way I've done over and over and over again with Hovind. Go on: ONE.
@PinheadOrPatriot That's what EVERY liar says: "Some day, someone's going to tell you I'm wrong, I'm lying, I'm deceiving you, and don't you believe him!" It's called the Poisoning the Well Fallacy.
We don't "deliberately forget" anything...YOU HAVEN'T PROVED IT. YOU HAVEN'T MADE YOUR CASE. And so you DON'T get to get on some kind of high horse and defend your PATHETIC LIES, all the while FALSELY claiming the other side is lying when we're not. You're pathetic.
@PinheadOrPatriot "Really, well Hovind has proven you and your evolutionist friends wrong over and over again;"
No, he hasn't. He's just told lie after lie after lie, which can easily be seen simply after checking the scientific data. NO ONE in biology takes him AT ALL seriously. HE IS A LIAR.
"I don't know what information has to do with flying around the world,"
After reading that a few times, he seems to be saying that the length of a fully unraveled human DNA molecule (depending on what he means by "just ONE DNA of a person" whatever that's supposed to mean) would be long enough to circle the world 5000 times.
I respect your view and wish to learn more. To me it makes sense, that scientists very often do not agree with each other in new areas of science. Now, concerning the theory of evolution, they seem to be in complete agreement. If you could tell me about anything illogical in the theory of evolution, I would be glad to learn about it. In science, a theory must have no logical flaws.
@flamifer1 Well, it can if the flaws are due to incompleteness. The theory of evolution wouldn't be what it is today without genetics, developmental biology, molecular biology, and many other observations and discoveries that Darwin didn't have available to him. Theories are always modified as new evidence comes to light. Religion, on the other hand, denies that new evidence tooth and nail.
You were right: Mr. Hovind acquired a religious based PhD in "Christian Education" from Patriot Bible University. "Christian Education" is an evangelism course. However, I must say, he supports the idea of a young world with a lot of enthusiasm, but such little general knowledge, that I believe he is damaging creationsism.
Which one of his arguments to support creationism in this movie do you believe to be most convincing?
@PinheadOrPatriot Yet, you cannot put forth ONE SINGLE VERIFIABLE LIE told by evolution. Yet I can point out LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE told by you creationists--INCLUDING YOU PERSONALLY.
@PinheadOrPatriot "Why would I want to lie to myself and fool myself?"
I wonder that every single time I talk to a creationist...
"The bottom line is that when people do not want to be responsible for their actions"
Oh, here we go, the moralistic platitudes that have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with evolution. It's just a hideously despicable ad hominem attack--you liars ALWAYS pull that crap whenever you have no response to the data.
@PinheadOrPatriot The difference is, all the available evidence shows evolution to be true and Hovind's ranting nothing but a pack of lies. OF COURSE it's going to sound more plausible--lies wouldn't work otherwise!
Thank you for your explanation. I talked to an evolutionist and he told me, that they do not believe, that life began from rocks, but possibly from fatty acids that form vesicles. He gave me this youtube link, if you are interested: watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg (even if it is not true. It is still interesting, but hard to understand)
I admit, that I don't believe Mr. Hovind. He is not a doctor as he pretends and everything he presented in the movie is wrong. That's very sad.
Mr. Hovind did say a lot of things that were correct. He said, that the earth slows down. And the moon really is moving away from the earth. But everything else he said was wrong. So what is left for you to agree with?
Excellent video! Mr. Hovind is deliberately lying to his followers and he is not even doing a very good job at it. Now, that he is in jail for fraud, may be he will use the time to learn a little bit about physics.
@shanedk Being seriously uninformed and failing to realize it is not the same as being a liar. The statements are still untrue, but the reason for making them is different, and so the *person* is different. Willful ignorance, even, is not quite the same as lying.
Besides, why argue with a liar? If you think he's being intentionally dishonest, do you hope to *convince* him he's being intentionally dishonest, or get him to admit to it, or what? I'm on your side, btw.
@shanedk I'd say willful ignorance is self-deception, while lying is deceiving others while fully knowing the truth oneself. But yeah, you're right I suppose. Keep up the good work.
@PinheadOrPatriot "That's a joke, son! You're built too low; the fast ones go over your head! Ya got a hole in your glove--I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em! Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball!" --Foghorn Leghorn
I hate defending this douche, but, the highschool science he taught was from a single text to homeschool his kids. As you can guess this limits what he could, or would, have learned from them.
I just looked up Sirius Star on Wikipedia. It says this: The more massive of these, Sirius B, consumed its resources and became a red giant before shedding its outer layers and collapsing into its current state as a white dwarf around 120 million years ago. Hovind was right in saying its a White Dwarf, but used to be called a red giant. Almost believed you. Thanks for building my faith more in the creation
I've always been puzzled how creationists explain stars, or why we see so many stars that are further away than 10,000 light years. Could a creationist answer why we see stars beyond 3000 parsecs?
@baldurus1 Of course, they have their lame, often-debunked answers. Like, light from the stars was created on its way here, light was faster in the past but was slowing down, etc. I have at least 3 videos that I recall off the top of my head debunking that nonsense.
Hmm I think what Hovind is referring to, very twisted, but that I think it was jupiter, that gives more energy into the universe than it can get from sun. Not quite sure about that. But nevertheless he's an ignorant idiot who does no nothing.
It doesn't take divine inspiration to expect the existence of skeptics, especially where the supernatural is involved. Such a claim is not special in the least.
Heres the thing guys. I could care less about solving How old the earth is, or how many star there are. No scientist in all of time, has ever had enough factual evidence to prove a single theory. Thats there is the Theory of Evolution. etc. Jesus Christ came to this earth as a living sacrifice to free us from the bondage of sin and sickness, that prideful/ self wanting man has created. Kent Hovind along with myself are only trying to help you guys realize the truth. Believe what you want.
@shanedk Shane you can flame me, blast me, whatever man. There so much hatred in you it makes my heart ache for you man. More importantly the Lord loves you, even though your confused right now. All He wants you to do is stop trying to look for all the answers in Life and turn to Him for the answers. There is a place our spirits go after this short time on planet Earth. My question to you is are you going to Heaven or Hell? Ill be praying for your salvation. Peace be with you
@jayculla91 no offense, but you're quite willfully ignorant. Do you realize you typed your comments using a computer that is based on knowledge gained by scientists? They don't have to "believe." They base their conclusions on empirical(real world) evidence.
@jayculla91 so you want to be like Kent Hovind? Did you know he is currently time in Federal Prison for tax evasion? He's a thief in addition to being a liar.
I understand that your trying to prove something, but whats with all the slander? Was that really needed? I pray that you pray for some forgiveness tonight Shane. Judging someone makes you no better but worse than the person your judging. God Bless
@shanedk you must of forgot how many times you called him an idiot, moron, etc. I felt alot of anger and wrath coming from you as i watched your vid. Not a good way to approach an audience.
@jayculla91 Yes. Does that somehow change the data I presented? I can point you to plenty of Christians--many of them scientists--who rail against Hovind as much as I do.
@jayculla91 No it doesnt change the data you presented, are most scientists who talk about Evolution claiming just theories or evidence. You should look up what Darwin said on his death bed
@jayculla91 If you're talking about the Lady Hope story, that's long been verified as a made-up piece of garbage. It's only ever brought up by the most dishonest and desperate creationists.
@jayculla91 did you know your precious Kent Hovind. Is serving a 10 year prison sentence for willful tax evasion? He's both a thief and liar(about science).
@tron81 its unconstitution for us to pay income tax. Look it up bud. The government is just controlling up like puppets, we pretty much just do what they want. No one has enough money to fight the government in court.
Check out his fourth or fifth video I believe about dinosaurs and please tell me how any of that is wrong. That is proving that science is wrong about the dinosaurs. Science said that dinosaurs lived before man, but everything else is proving that wrong. In fact, watch all of his tapes. And just in case you didn't know, the Bible said a lot of facts before scientists knew, one of them being that the earth is round. Meanwhile, everyone thought it was flat. How is that? God IS real.
@kristiemae16 the Bible said the earth has "four corners." Does it really? The Bible also said there was a tree on a mountain that could be see from everywhere on earth. Is that even remotely possible? The Bible said that God stopped the sun rather than stopping the earth from turning.
For all of you who don't know, I just looked it up and he could have taught at a private school. And how is science right when it is constantly contradicting itself? I've noticed that everything Kent teaches is consistent while meanwhile, science isn't. You guys should all pick up a Bible and believe in God who created you instead of being tempted by the devil. The devil is just trying to take as many people as he can with him to hell because he's stuck there. Pick up a Bible. God loves you.
1. Spiral arms in galaxies arise as a consequence of density waves, not gravitational waves. The ONLY experimental evidence for gravity waves is the orbital decay of binary neutron stars. Furthermore, finding a mechanism to allow those arms to survive over Gyrs is actually a difficult problem.
2. Jupiter IS cooling off in the sense that radiates more energy than it receives from the sun because it's contracting. Being cold doesn't mean you can't get colder.
@bigsaxquatch My understanding is that virtually all of Jupiter's energy comes from radioactive decay of elements within its interior (most likely, the main culprits would be K-40, U-238 and Th-232). This is the same mechanism by which the earth generates its internal energy, as the Kelvin-Helmholtz timescale is much shorter than the age of the solar system.
There are a few different people out there who debunk creationist videos, but only SDK puts such humorous emphasis on saying things like "WHAT A MORON" in the middle of them. It truly adds to the quality of the viewing. Keep it up!!
The only way creationists can 'deal with' science is to twist and distort scientific information until is resembles the idiocies of magical religious ideology. The real thing is much harder to reckon with.
Hovind doesn't know what he is talking about but he knows his audience doesn't know either. Therefore he can tell them anything and look good in the eyes of the ignorant while picking their pockets.
How can anyone with at least a 4th grade education not have the critical thinking skills to realize that what Kent Hovind spews out is a load of b.s.
Do some background work you creationists! His degrees are a fraud. He is nowhere close to qualified to talk about anything science related much less give tax advise, do engineering consulting or perform surgery. He is a fraud and a con-man. Lying for Jesus to line his (and his son Eric's) pocketbook.
The fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom. The bible says that "all of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, for even though we knew God, we did not honor him as God, or give thanks".
@Turn2God4Hope Ok, whether that's true or not.... why didn't your arbitrary, mythological "god" just create EVERYTHING perfect? for that matter, why did he create it? Who or what created him and why? and THAT person/thing?
The answer is that "God" he doesn't exist. If he did, as you've claimed it's "fact"... why doesn't everybody agree?
Why is it that scientists in various fields globally reach the same conclusions, yet religion is arbitrary? It's because it's mythological fallacy.
@IDisnotscience Eric Hovind is still peddling the same materials, including all the old tapes. In fact, he's probably using the precise wording his father programmed into him.
Hovind is big on rote repetition, apparently. There are reports that the 'guides' at the (illegally built) theme park he used to own would use precisely the same words (right down to the same jokes and asides, at exactly the same places) for everyone. ALL the guides. PRECISELY identical speeches.
you are assuming stars form. but we see them die. Again, evolution is assumed. Well ort was fact but now isn't? The stupid thing was saying comets came from the ort cloud. But you guys through it in the trash cause you found a better fact, you know, like the or cloud comet creation was fact. I will tell you a fact. atheists can't be trusted, they will say anything. Lies are their foundation. The quantum paradox killed evolution.
@shanedk Your very weak man, if you are so proud of your videos, you should be excited about sending a link to someone who doubts you. But you don't, that just means you are a very insecure person
Good video.
NevilleRhysBarnes 2 months ago
I love how you start these creation videos: "This video is rebutting something stupid."
wes5020 3 months ago
I hope Hovind gets assraped in prison. Lol not really. But I am delighted hes in there. Best place for people like him.
dragonmasterlance123 4 months ago
My name is Kent Hovind. I used to lie to the masses of ignorant church goers and now I just lie to the other prisoners.
baxtar1963 4 months ago
Why bother explaining the population increase, when you could just point out the fact NO ONE who believes in evolution thinks man has been around 3 MILLION YEARS. LMAO, why didn't you call him on that, its fucking hilarious.
Saber0003 6 months ago
good work shane - keep up the fight!
aden302000 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot
I have been thinking of the "Supreme Being" idea, creating universes and controlling everything. Doesn't intelligence require the existence of a brain? And doesn't a brain require matter to exist? What, if the "Supreme Being" was just another word for knowledge? Could God simply be pure knowledge?
Knowledge is the only thing that is all powerful, everywhere at the same time and naturally knows everything. That way we had god and science united.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot The people who wrote the bible put in current and old event and places into it, thats why it's historical and archeological.
As far as eyewitness accounts, I don't care who sees a man make water into whine, create bret and fish, and walk on water; it's still not true or a good magic trick.
Even if it was true; who would worship someone who kills kids with bears, who says stoning people is ok, and who kills whole city's but lets the women and girls live to be raped later.
bebop7c2 7 months ago
@bebop7c2 "The people who wrote the bible put in current and old event and places into it, thats why it's historical and archeological."
Yes, the same way Margaret Mitchell put Atlanta, slaves, and the Civil War into Gone With the Wind. I wonder if Pinhead would be saying that this means Rhett and Scarlet really existed if he lived 2000 years from now?
And yeah, all that and he couldn't even do the cups-and-balls?
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk If the Bibles correct then everying simi-historically accurate must be true if it was written down, and what do we do about this God that tells people to rape women and stone people? I say we don't worship him.
It's important to believe things that are true my friend.
bebop7c2 7 months ago
@bebop7c2 Couldn't agree more.
shanedk 7 months ago
You are referring to: Daniel 12:1-4 "many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase". Yes, if many run to and fro, that's how news got spread in those times - no cellphones. In Jushua 10:12 Joshua prayed for the sun to stop, so that the Israelites had time to slaughter more Amorites. He wanted to gain time. What in the world makes you think, it means that the sun is stationary? No disrespect, but see: Ecclesiastes 1:5. True enough: God does not reveal all at once, like in a book.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 "What in the world makes you think, it means the sun is stationary?"
Because the other option is to stop the entire Earth from spinning, this would have devastating consequences for any one standing on the Earth at that time.
johnrainrules 7 months ago
@johnrainrules Either that, or he just played around with people's perception of time. The right sort of mushrooms in the area would do it...
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk True, but that probably wouldn't give you more time to murder people. It might make you more likely to do it though.
johnrainrules 7 months ago
@johnrainrules
True. But that is not the issue here. PinheadOrPatriot, the person, my posting was addressed to, statet Joshua 10:12: "The sun stood still and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down about a whole day!"
He believes, that this bible passage meant to tell us, that the sun stands still and the earth revolves around it (as it does). I am having a hard time to believe, that this is, what Joshua 10:12 means. What is your opinion?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 That is ABSOLUTELY what the passage means. That fits completely with ancient Hebrew cosmology: a disc-shaped Earth surrounded by a firmament, on which were stuck the sun, moon, and stars. The Earth was mounted on pillars and surrounded by a vast ocean. You need to do a LOT of fanboy retcons to make the Bible comply with actual cosmology; you need to do nothing whatsoever to make it match what the ancient Hebrews believed.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
That is exactly my idea, of how the ancient Hebrews saw the world. The bible says, that the earth is a disk:
Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers"
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 My opinion is that the statement in Joshua 10:12 has an assumption that the world is stationary. Because if the "sun stood still" that means the Earth stopped spinning. Unless Shane is correct and hallucinogens merely changed their perception of time.
johnrainrules 7 months ago
@johnrainrules
Thank you for your comment on Joshua 10:12. A friend of mine, who is creationist mentioned it as proof, that the bible already knew, that the sun was in the center of the solar system: "the sun stood still".
I think, in the bible passage rather means to say, that Joshua wanted to gain time instead of telling us about astronomical facts.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 Exactly: the sun stood still FOR 24 HOURS so they could have more time, then started back up again. He can't POSSIBLY have read the passage if he said that!
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk I assume this guys friend just read part of a passage off a website. Like people who use Ecclesiastes 1:6 to claim the bible talks about weather patterns when if you read the entire poem it claims the sun goes around the Earth and other nonsense in a depressing poem that could also double as communist propaganda.
johnrainrules 7 months ago
@shanedk
He possibly read it on one of the countless creationist websites in the internet.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 I agree that what it wanted to say was that Joshua not only wanted, but did gain time. Unfortunately in so doing it betrayed that the author didn't know how the solar system really worked. For the passage to be literally true. that would require a lot of crazy things from a physics stand point. Shane brings up the possibility in one of his posts that they could be trying to explain a hallucination from taking shrooms, personally I think the story is just fictitious.
johnrainrules 7 months ago
@johnrainrules
I too believe, that Joshua's story is ficticious. Thank heavens, the world did not stop to rotate. But for people back then the sun was just a hot light attached to the sky, that could be stopped by god without much consequence. We have to ask oursevelves: Did our ancestors like to "enhance" the stories of their heroes in order to make them even more god-like? Is it possible, that all miracles in the bible were added later on by people eagerly promoting the new religion?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 I'd say not only possible, but pretty darn certain!
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Lots of insane personal attacks, and not ONE SINGLE THING to refute my points. Typical.
You might as well remove the "OrPatriot" part of your handle.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot No counter-evidence. Just a bogus argument from authority fallacy and tons of insults, some of which are just hilarious. Left wing? Really? Did you determine that from examining Shane's videos, or do you just assume anyone who doesn't buy your nonsense is left wing?
Virgil0211 7 months ago
In my opinion the bible is a beautiful piece of art and tells us much about peoples' view of the world from 2,000 years ago. What our ancestors knew, but also, what they ignored. In Genesis, e.g., we are being told, that the moon is a light. To us, this may sound funny, but how could people back there know, that the moon merely reflects the light of the sun? Or: "And He also made the stars" This indicates, that they did not know what planets are.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 "how could people back there know, that the moon merely reflects the light of the sun?"
The Greeks, the Chinese, and probably many others figured it out, just by studying the phases. Not hard. They weren't even intelligent enough to be up with the scientific standard of the time! While the Hebrews were putting the finishing touches on the Old Testament, Eratosthenes had already measured the size of the world and Aristarchus had figured out that the planets orbited the sun!
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk By the way, what's up with the recent activity thingy on youtube? I mean, I enjoy watching these conversations, but it seems like they aren't being tracked. Is youtube screwing up again?
Virgil0211 7 months ago
@Virgil0211 It's a known issue they're working on. Everything is being recorded properly, there's just a bug with compiling and displaying it.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
True, but obviously the people who wrote the book of Genesis did not know it. Wouldn't they have described the moon as something else, but a "light in the sky" then? Other examples: "And He divided the light from the dark". Only a person, who does not know, what light is, would write something like this. Don't you think?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 "True, but obviously the people who wrote the book of Genesis did not know it."
My point is they theoretically COULD have known it with information available at the time. The fact that they didn't, and put in such incredibly wrong information, means the Bible isn't even up to date with the standards of the time, let alone modern science!
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
Definitively. Scientists, if we may call them like that, were a lot less connected and a lot of information got lost on the way. Another reason could be, that the knowledge did not fit with the old legends.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 They had already adopted Babylonian cosmology, and built their entire idea of God and heaven around it.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
That makes sense. Several parts of the old testament, like Adam & Eve and Noah are definitively taken from slightly altered far older mesopotamian legends.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 Noah's flood as well.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Numerous archeological, historical, and eyewitness accounts prove the contrary."
COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The Hebrews were never even IN Egypt, for example, much less enslaved for a long period of time. They left NO archaeological evidence of their 40 years in the desert, which absolutely positively should be there. On and on and on. You have NOTHING.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Magical not real, you know that right?
Many cultures over history made up magical supernatural answers to things like, Gods, fairy's, and other creatures. I'm not surprised the bible says people who don't believe are wrond or "wells without water". I am surprised people still believe in old fairy tales.
bebop7c2 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot All that blathering, and not a single rational point in it anywhere. Congratulations: you have created the world's first message with a NEGATIVE signal-to-noise ratio!
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot No, our source is 150 years of observation and experimentation; your source is a bronze-age text written by a bunch of goat-herders.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Ok how about evolution?"
Thousands of transitional fossils, loads of evidence in the genetic records, and 150 years of peer-reviewed science, ALL confirming it and NOT A SINGLE ONE falsifying it, EVOLUTION IS TRUE. Get over it.
"According to the Bible evolution is FALSE!"
Then so much for the Bible!
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot
May I suggest to discuss, what Mr. Hovind says in his video? One of his arguments for a young earth is, that we are "only" 6 billion people on earth now and not many trillion people. Do you think, he is right with this idea?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Point out, in detail ONE SINGLE LIE I have told, WITH EVIDENCE. The way I've done over and over and over again with Hovind. Go on: ONE.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot That's what EVERY liar says: "Some day, someone's going to tell you I'm wrong, I'm lying, I'm deceiving you, and don't you believe him!" It's called the Poisoning the Well Fallacy.
We don't "deliberately forget" anything...YOU HAVEN'T PROVED IT. YOU HAVEN'T MADE YOUR CASE. And so you DON'T get to get on some kind of high horse and defend your PATHETIC LIES, all the while FALSELY claiming the other side is lying when we're not. You're pathetic.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Really, well Hovind has proven you and your evolutionist friends wrong over and over again;"
No, he hasn't. He's just told lie after lie after lie, which can easily be seen simply after checking the scientific data. NO ONE in biology takes him AT ALL seriously. HE IS A LIAR.
And SO ARE YOU.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "At least I'm open to be proven wrong," Your biggest lie yet!!!
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "how is it possible for a DNA to have so much information"
Check my video on the subject: I show how a single insertion mutation once created over 2,000 bits of information.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Remember that just ONE DNA of a person has so much information that equals to flying around the world 5K times!"
I don't know what information has to do with flying around the world, but your entire genome could fit on a standard CD-ROM--uncompressed.
"Non-intelligence or just a mere chance over millions of years is ludicrous."
Argument from Personal Incredulity. Worthless.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
"I don't know what information has to do with flying around the world,"
After reading that a few times, he seems to be saying that the length of a fully unraveled human DNA molecule (depending on what he means by "just ONE DNA of a person" whatever that's supposed to mean) would be long enough to circle the world 5000 times.
vspqbd 7 months ago
@vspqbd Well, then he's laughably wrong. Unwinding all the chromosomes and laying them end-to-end would still be less than 2 meters.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "All you have to do is first read the Bible with an opened mind in its entirety"
Done. Made me an atheist.
"next listen to Dr. Hovind's explanations about what the Bible teaches and what the evolutionists teach."
Done. Concluded that Hovind is one of the biggest liars on the planet.
"NOT one shred of evidence is given in evolution"
Total bullshit. Evolution is THE BEST SUPPORTED THEORY in all science, better even than gravity.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot
I respect your view and wish to learn more. To me it makes sense, that scientists very often do not agree with each other in new areas of science. Now, concerning the theory of evolution, they seem to be in complete agreement. If you could tell me about anything illogical in the theory of evolution, I would be glad to learn about it. In science, a theory must have no logical flaws.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 Well, it can if the flaws are due to incompleteness. The theory of evolution wouldn't be what it is today without genetics, developmental biology, molecular biology, and many other observations and discoveries that Darwin didn't have available to him. Theories are always modified as new evidence comes to light. Religion, on the other hand, denies that new evidence tooth and nail.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
absolutely true.
flamifer1 7 months ago
You were right: Mr. Hovind acquired a religious based PhD in "Christian Education" from Patriot Bible University. "Christian Education" is an evangelism course. However, I must say, he supports the idea of a young world with a lot of enthusiasm, but such little general knowledge, that I believe he is damaging creationsism.
Which one of his arguments to support creationism in this movie do you believe to be most convincing?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 I think the most convincing thing he's ever said is "My name is Kent Hovind." And I'm not even 100% sure about that!
shanedk 7 months ago
"My name is Kent Hovind." - The only honest words ever to cross "Dr." Hovind's lips.
vspqbd 7 months ago
@vspqbd I dunno, I haven't checked his birth certificate...
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot OK. Your case is thrown out for extreme lack of evidence or sound argumentation.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Wow...if there was any kind of point or argument anywhere at all in that screed, I missed it.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Yet, you cannot put forth ONE SINGLE VERIFIABLE LIE told by evolution. Yet I can point out LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE told by you creationists--INCLUDING YOU PERSONALLY.
Your words are as empty as your mind.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Games! Must we?"
You were the one playing games when you came out with those bogus platitudes.
"science suppose to confirm the Bible not refute it."
Bullshit. If the evidence refutes the Bible, then refute the Bible science shall do.
Job was originally an Indian text. Indian mythology ALWAYS had a round Earth.
Evolution is a FACT. DEAL with it.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Evolution discounts God all together"
So does gravitational theory. So does germ theory. So what?
No, you're just making excuses. Evolution is a FACT. DEAL with it.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Why would I want to lie to myself and fool myself?"
I wonder that every single time I talk to a creationist...
"The bottom line is that when people do not want to be responsible for their actions"
Oh, here we go, the moralistic platitudes that have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with evolution. It's just a hideously despicable ad hominem attack--you liars ALWAYS pull that crap whenever you have no response to the data.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot The difference is, all the available evidence shows evolution to be true and Hovind's ranting nothing but a pack of lies. OF COURSE it's going to sound more plausible--lies wouldn't work otherwise!
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Mr. Hovind has a PhD in education.."
In CHRISTIAN Education, and that was from a diploma mill.
"his explanations are much more plausible"
Really? A thick canopy of ice over the atmosphere is more plausible???
shanedk 7 months ago
@Pinhead
Thank you for your explanation. I talked to an evolutionist and he told me, that they do not believe, that life began from rocks, but possibly from fatty acids that form vesicles. He gave me this youtube link, if you are interested: watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg (even if it is not true. It is still interesting, but hard to understand)
I admit, that I don't believe Mr. Hovind. He is not a doctor as he pretends and everything he presented in the movie is wrong. That's very sad.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 Yeah, that's Szostak's work. He has the most plausible theory, IMO, and has come the closest to replicating early life.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Not quite. Intelligence is an emergent property.
shanedk 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "The evolutionists believe that life began from water and rocks"
Wrong.
"then the Ape evolved to a Neanderthal, and then the cave man"
INCREDIBLY wrong.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
"'The evolutionists believe that life began from water and rocks'"
It would be funny if it weren't so wrong. Actually, it's still kinda funny in a laugh-at-the-stupid-creationist-liars kinda way.
vspqbd 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot
Do creationists really believe, that cavemen evolved into chimpanzees and homo sapiens evolved from them? Somehow this does not make sense to me.
>> Can intelligence come out of non-intelligence?
This is a really cool question!
Do you think it can? What is intelligence, exactly?
flamifer1 7 months ago
@flamifer1 Intelligence is the ability to recognize patterns. All animals have it to some degree. Some are more intelligent than others.
There are also lots of social species. Put high intelligence together with high social skills and you get creatures capable of making civilization.
shanedk 7 months ago
@shanedk
I agree
flamifer1 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot
Mr. Hovind did say a lot of things that were correct. He said, that the earth slows down. And the moon really is moving away from the earth. But everything else he said was wrong. So what is left for you to agree with?
flamifer1 7 months ago
Excellent video! Mr. Hovind is deliberately lying to his followers and he is not even doing a very good job at it. Now, that he is in jail for fraud, may be he will use the time to learn a little bit about physics.
flamifer1 7 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot This is how honest people react when people lie to them.
Of course, you're a creationist, so you have no clue how honest people react, do you?
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk Being seriously uninformed and failing to realize it is not the same as being a liar. The statements are still untrue, but the reason for making them is different, and so the *person* is different. Willful ignorance, even, is not quite the same as lying.
Besides, why argue with a liar? If you think he's being intentionally dishonest, do you hope to *convince* him he's being intentionally dishonest, or get him to admit to it, or what? I'm on your side, btw.
Megaritz 8 months ago
@Megaritz "Being seriously uninformed and failing to realize it is not the same as being a liar."
It is when there have been numerous attempts to inform them.
"Willful ignorance, even, is not quite the same as lying."
If willful ignorance isn't lying, then nothing is lying!
And you do this not to try to convince the person, but to expose him. Make sure that no lurkers ever take him seriously.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk I'd say willful ignorance is self-deception, while lying is deceiving others while fully knowing the truth oneself. But yeah, you're right I suppose. Keep up the good work.
Megaritz 8 months ago
@Megaritz Thanks. As Penn Jillette says, lying to yourself does not make lying to others okay.
shanedk 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "All I'm saying is that you don't have to agree with me or Hovind or anyone else, just disagree with gentleness and respect."
NEVER with liars.
shanedk 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Amusing how you retort by saying insults demean the person using them, then follow up with an insult. Hypocrite, much?
Call it sarcasm, snark, wordplay, etc. The fact that you took it so deeply to heart speaks volumes of your confidence in your own position.
Virgil0211 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "Obviously you are a legend in your own mind. Reasoning with people like you is like reasoning with a chimp"
Another FUCKING LIE. NO ONE and NOWHERE does ANY evolutionary science say we came from chimps. All you--and any other creationist--have are lies.
ALL CREATIONISTS ARE LIARS.
shanedk 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot "That's a joke, son! You're built too low; the fast ones go over your head! Ya got a hole in your glove--I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em! Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball!" --Foghorn Leghorn
shanedk 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot I'm so sorry, sir. I had no idea you were functionally deaf. I can't imagine what it must be like to live with your disabilities.
Virgil0211 8 months ago
@PinheadOrPatriot Really? You think it's plausible that the Earth's atmosphere was UNDER however-many miles of ice???
shanedk 8 months ago
I hate defending this douche, but, the highschool science he taught was from a single text to homeschool his kids. As you can guess this limits what he could, or would, have learned from them.
TheCaptainLulz 8 months ago
I just looked up Sirius Star on Wikipedia. It says this: The more massive of these, Sirius B, consumed its resources and became a red giant before shedding its outer layers and collapsing into its current state as a white dwarf around 120 million years ago. Hovind was right in saying its a White Dwarf, but used to be called a red giant. Almost believed you. Thanks for building my faith more in the creation
dyzeesupernaturalzzz 8 months ago
Shepherd moons?
Shepherds.
Jesus is a shepherd.
Jesus created the Universe!
MAKE THE CONNECTIONS PEOPLE
/sarcasm.
Emanresu56 9 months ago
It's just not logical that could be that right and honest. He is such a joke!
atchisrj1 9 months ago
Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication!
cerealk53 10 months ago
I've always been puzzled how creationists explain stars, or why we see so many stars that are further away than 10,000 light years. Could a creationist answer why we see stars beyond 3000 parsecs?
baldurus1 10 months ago
@baldurus1 Of course, they have their lame, often-debunked answers. Like, light from the stars was created on its way here, light was faster in the past but was slowing down, etc. I have at least 3 videos that I recall off the top of my head debunking that nonsense.
shanedk 10 months ago
FCUK KENT HOVIND
bellyzbad 10 months ago
Hmm I think what Hovind is referring to, very twisted, but that I think it was jupiter, that gives more energy into the universe than it can get from sun. Not quite sure about that. But nevertheless he's an ignorant idiot who does no nothing.
gastarbeiter1 10 months ago
man your dumb as hell im afriad for you
the bible said there would be ppl like you...scoffers
lancertreepuffer 11 months ago
@lancertreepuffer
It doesn't take divine inspiration to expect the existence of skeptics, especially where the supernatural is involved. Such a claim is not special in the least.
SeruQuik 10 months ago
@SeruQuik true
lancertreepuffer 10 months ago
man your dumb as hell im afriad for you
lancertreepuffer 11 months ago
My anus is cold.
MeBeMat 11 months ago
Wait, Sirius is red? i thought it was a class A spectral type.
mousaey 11 months ago
@mousaey I wasn't going to go into the Red Controversy. I took the (then) 10-minute time limit to the max!
shanedk 11 months ago
You have free will. Ill be praying for you guys. Peace and Love through Christ be with you. Amen
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 I hope one day you find the Invisible Pink Unicorn and that he gives you peace.
johnrainrules 11 months ago
Heres the thing guys. I could care less about solving How old the earth is, or how many star there are. No scientist in all of time, has ever had enough factual evidence to prove a single theory. Thats there is the Theory of Evolution. etc. Jesus Christ came to this earth as a living sacrifice to free us from the bondage of sin and sickness, that prideful/ self wanting man has created. Kent Hovind along with myself are only trying to help you guys realize the truth. Believe what you want.
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 "No scientist in all of time, has ever had enough factual evidence to prove a single theory."
Then how are you posting this on a computer (made with scientific theory) and transmitting it over the internet (made with scientific theory)?
Idiot.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Shane you can flame me, blast me, whatever man. There so much hatred in you it makes my heart ache for you man. More importantly the Lord loves you, even though your confused right now. All He wants you to do is stop trying to look for all the answers in Life and turn to Him for the answers. There is a place our spirits go after this short time on planet Earth. My question to you is are you going to Heaven or Hell? Ill be praying for your salvation. Peace be with you
jayculla91 11 months ago
@jayculla91 Way to avoid a direct question. Typical creationist.
shanedk 11 months ago
@jayculla91 you stupid ignorant excuse of a cell bag.
ueks69 11 months ago
@jayculla91 no offense, but you're quite willfully ignorant. Do you realize you typed your comments using a computer that is based on knowledge gained by scientists? They don't have to "believe." They base their conclusions on empirical(real world) evidence.
tron81 11 months ago
@jayculla91 so you want to be like Kent Hovind? Did you know he is currently time in Federal Prison for tax evasion? He's a thief in addition to being a liar.
tron81 11 months ago
Uranus!
JoakimfromAnka 1 year ago
I understand that your trying to prove something, but whats with all the slander? Was that really needed? I pray that you pray for some forgiveness tonight Shane. Judging someone makes you no better but worse than the person your judging. God Bless
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 There was no slander in the video. Everything I said is absolutely 100% true.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk you must of forgot how many times you called him an idiot, moron, etc. I felt alot of anger and wrath coming from you as i watched your vid. Not a good way to approach an audience.
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 That's not slander. No, this is just another lame, pathetic excuse to ignore the data presented.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk are you an atheist?
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 Yes. Does that somehow change the data I presented? I can point you to plenty of Christians--many of them scientists--who rail against Hovind as much as I do.
shanedk 1 year ago
@jayculla91 No it doesnt change the data you presented, are most scientists who talk about Evolution claiming just theories or evidence. You should look up what Darwin said on his death bed
jayculla91 1 year ago
@jayculla91 If you're talking about the Lady Hope story, that's long been verified as a made-up piece of garbage. It's only ever brought up by the most dishonest and desperate creationists.
shanedk 1 year ago
@jayculla91 Perpetuating a myth isn't a great way to present your argument.
mymatryoshka 1 year ago
@jayculla91 did you know your precious Kent Hovind. Is serving a 10 year prison sentence for willful tax evasion? He's both a thief and liar(about science).
tron81 11 months ago
@tron81 its unconstitution for us to pay income tax. Look it up bud. The government is just controlling up like puppets, we pretty much just do what they want. No one has enough money to fight the government in court.
jayculla91 11 months ago
@jayculla91 Um, I did. The 16th Amendment is still there (unfortunately).
shanedk 11 months ago
@shanedk Check out the movie Zeitgeist, and explain why these ex-cia agents say its unconstiutional and that they havent payed the taxe for years.
jayculla91 11 months ago
Hovand is a liar. If he was a teacher he would have known. Typical creatard.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
ha ha he isnt jesus. maybe you should research your own information instead of baggin on other people. go to
godandscience. o r g
goodbyebrov 1 year ago
good work men
molosio1 1 year ago
Kent Hovind: Making the lives of Biology teachers everywhere a living hell since the 1990s.
vspqbd 1 year ago 2
The only proven liars are those who do not believe God - and you obviously fall into that catagory.
TheTreborknarf 1 year ago
@TheTreborknarf So says an Invisible Pink Unicorn denialist.
johnrainrules 1 year ago
@johnrainrules Yes, I am a "pink unicorn" denialist, and UNLIKE you I Believe God - Psalm 14:1 applies.
TheTreborknarf 1 year ago
@TheTreborknarf All the evil people in history from Genghis Khan, to Hitler, to Stalin were Invisible Pink Unicorn denialists. Ezekiel 23:20 applies.
johnrainrules 1 year ago
He home-schooled his kids for 15 years. This explains why his son eric is so misinformed.
panterguy 1 year ago
Check out his fourth or fifth video I believe about dinosaurs and please tell me how any of that is wrong. That is proving that science is wrong about the dinosaurs. Science said that dinosaurs lived before man, but everything else is proving that wrong. In fact, watch all of his tapes. And just in case you didn't know, the Bible said a lot of facts before scientists knew, one of them being that the earth is round. Meanwhile, everyone thought it was flat. How is that? God IS real.
kristiemae16 1 year ago
@kristiemae16 the Bible said the earth has "four corners." Does it really? The Bible also said there was a tree on a mountain that could be see from everywhere on earth. Is that even remotely possible? The Bible said that God stopped the sun rather than stopping the earth from turning.
tron81 11 months ago
If he taught science than Im the tooth fairy. He is a liar and an idiot.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
For all of you who don't know, I just looked it up and he could have taught at a private school. And how is science right when it is constantly contradicting itself? I've noticed that everything Kent teaches is consistent while meanwhile, science isn't. You guys should all pick up a Bible and believe in God who created you instead of being tempted by the devil. The devil is just trying to take as many people as he can with him to hell because he's stuck there. Pick up a Bible. God loves you.
kristiemae16 1 year ago
@kristiemae16 Please tell me you're a Poe.
jjukil 1 year ago
@kristiemae16 Why doesn't God just destroy the devil?
Keitaro2011 1 year ago
@Keitaro2011 First there would have to be a god or a devil.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
I Love videos that show what a dumbass Kent Hovind is.
Jenmp3 1 year ago
A few points:
1. Spiral arms in galaxies arise as a consequence of density waves, not gravitational waves. The ONLY experimental evidence for gravity waves is the orbital decay of binary neutron stars. Furthermore, finding a mechanism to allow those arms to survive over Gyrs is actually a difficult problem.
2. Jupiter IS cooling off in the sense that radiates more energy than it receives from the sun because it's contracting. Being cold doesn't mean you can't get colder.
Not a Bible nut, btw.
bigsaxquatch 1 year ago
@bigsaxquatch My understanding is that virtually all of Jupiter's energy comes from radioactive decay of elements within its interior (most likely, the main culprits would be K-40, U-238 and Th-232). This is the same mechanism by which the earth generates its internal energy, as the Kelvin-Helmholtz timescale is much shorter than the age of the solar system.
jpc4256 7 months ago
There are a few different people out there who debunk creationist videos, but only SDK puts such humorous emphasis on saying things like "WHAT A MORON" in the middle of them. It truly adds to the quality of the viewing. Keep it up!!
coopersnoop 1 year ago
I can't believe someone actually spent money to defend such bronze age theories!!!!
1234yersiman 1 year ago
The only way creationists can 'deal with' science is to twist and distort scientific information until is resembles the idiocies of magical religious ideology. The real thing is much harder to reckon with.
Hovind doesn't know what he is talking about but he knows his audience doesn't know either. Therefore he can tell them anything and look good in the eyes of the ignorant while picking their pockets.
macnutz 1 year ago
How can anyone with at least a 4th grade education not have the critical thinking skills to realize that what Kent Hovind spews out is a load of b.s.
Do some background work you creationists! His degrees are a fraud. He is nowhere close to qualified to talk about anything science related much less give tax advise, do engineering consulting or perform surgery. He is a fraud and a con-man. Lying for Jesus to line his (and his son Eric's) pocketbook.
jknengr796 1 year ago
The fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom. The bible says that "all of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, for even though we knew God, we did not honor him as God, or give thanks".
Turn2God4Hope 1 year ago
@Turn2God4Hope Well, you are like sheep, I'll give you that much.
shanedk 1 year ago 17
@Turn2God4Hope Ok, whether that's true or not.... why didn't your arbitrary, mythological "god" just create EVERYTHING perfect? for that matter, why did he create it? Who or what created him and why? and THAT person/thing?
The answer is that "God" he doesn't exist. If he did, as you've claimed it's "fact"... why doesn't everybody agree?
Why is it that scientists in various fields globally reach the same conclusions, yet religion is arbitrary? It's because it's mythological fallacy.
Logic wins.
SilenceTheIDiots 1 year ago
@Turn2God4Hope There are no gods just superstitions.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
Is Hovind still around? I thought he was in jail now.
IDisnotscience 1 year ago
@IDisnotscience Eric Hovind is still peddling the same materials, including all the old tapes. In fact, he's probably using the precise wording his father programmed into him.
Hovind is big on rote repetition, apparently. There are reports that the 'guides' at the (illegally built) theme park he used to own would use precisely the same words (right down to the same jokes and asides, at exactly the same places) for everyone. ALL the guides. PRECISELY identical speeches.
evensgrey 1 year ago
@IDisnotscience Yeah, he is still in Jail for tax evasion I believe
Cataclysm31 1 year ago
"those who can't - teach,"
those who can't teach ------ turn to religion....
...kent hovind is such an idiot.
thriveagainst 1 year ago
you are assuming stars form. but we see them die. Again, evolution is assumed. Well ort was fact but now isn't? The stupid thing was saying comets came from the ort cloud. But you guys through it in the trash cause you found a better fact, you know, like the or cloud comet creation was fact. I will tell you a fact. atheists can't be trusted, they will say anything. Lies are their foundation. The quantum paradox killed evolution.
easymoney4ever 1 year ago
@easymoney4ever No, we SEE stars form. The Orion Nebula is a VERY active star-forming region.
No one has thrown the Oort Cloud into the trash. You need to go learn REAL science.
And WTF does evolution have to do with ANYTHING quantum?
shanedk 1 year ago 15
@shanedk Atoms, watch this
watch?v=M6zcDknU6oc
ironman197268 1 year ago
@ironman197268 These questions HAVE been answered, in my own videos. WATCH them.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Why did you not send me a link to your videos?
ironman197268 1 year ago
@ironman197268 Because there are several of them all throughout my channel. Do a search on my channel and you'll find them.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Your very weak man, if you are so proud of your videos, you should be excited about sending a link to someone who doubts you. But you don't, that just means you are a very insecure person
ironman197268 1 year ago