EVE Lesson 05 - pos setup and moon mining part 02

[oliverjamescarr]

What would you advise for suficient wepon defences?

[adrianv2792]

@oliverjamescarr No pos is impregnable, all your doing is buying time and difficulty, there is no perfect fit, but If i didnt want ot give up the spot easly , i found a large mimitar pos with artillary small/medium mix place about 60klms apart with two capitail size batteries to hit sniper fleets is a nice mix, warp disruption batteries are the most annoying and any fleet will spend time on them. Shield hardening arrays can also take more time, really its about making the pos "to much effort"

[oliverjamescarr]

@adrianv2792 Sorry for my late reply but thanks for that info, i understand what your saying. Another question i have is when the pos goes into defence mode, im guessing the guns are offlined? if so are the attackers able to scoop up those modules? And also what can i do as a human to defend the pos? Is there a good setup to rep the POS as a fleet?

[adrianv2792]

@oliverjamescarr 1. Im not sure if things chnaged i havent tested recently, but any item usgin CPU power goes offline ie caldari launcher batteries. BUT mimitar batteries use no cpu so they keep PEW PEW .. 2. YES KILL THE SPIKE COLLECT THE LOOT, this is usualy what we do with corps that fail the ransom. you can unanchor everything once the spike is dead. 3. highsec - lots of people / lowsec 0.0 .. carrier with heavy reppers and skilled pilot.

[oliverjamescarr]

@adrianv2792 Cool thanks. For repairing, can you be inside the POS' shield? ive seen a video of some people reping their POS but they were outside of the shield.

[adrianv2792]

@oliverjamescarr can you target something inside a pos shield? .. long story short no you can not rep a pos from inside. this presents problems in repping too .. ie small shield reppers dont work over the range required to tagret a tower from outside of its shields. i dont even think medium remote reppers do .. not 100% on that drones i dont think will work either .. for that same reason.

[DJTarga]

Obviously.



[CommanderSyler]

hmm how much shall cost a small pos whit some defence guns and focussed for manu/ refine pos?in highsec great vid, i shall follow this to build my pos

[Spearfisher1970]

One other video maintained that we HAD to online the Silo first, then the coupling (if it exists), then the Harvester in that order. You didn't stress that, so I guess it isn't necessary? And the 1/1 on the right side of the harvester, and 1/- on the left side of the silo... still doesn't make sense to me. Still can't get it all to work though, either.

[ilikewarhammer]

Do you have to be in a corp to set up a POS?

[adrianv2792]

@ilikewarhammer YES ... a corp of atleast one member is fine, but be warned. We scouted for and targeted small highsec corps with large pos's or alot of poses and wardecked them to either collect a ransom or destroy the tower which allows for all the modules to be unanchored, collected and sold.. large towers did not hinder us, although time consuming we destroyed a number of them. lowsec and 0.0 was easier because we would give no warning. consider joining an alliance if you do this.

[Ashadow700]

Is a moon harvester active when the player is not?

[adrianv2792]

@Ashadow700

yes its online chewing the moon 24/7 so to work out how much you will get, 100units per hour x24 for a day .. roughty 30days in a month so mutliply that figure by 30 = how much material you will get .. then see what it sells for or if its worth whatever the hell your doing..

[RoTech100]

Can someone give me lots of ISK? :DD

[adrianv2792]

@RoTech100 ive left a can with good drops secured to a moon in ec-p8r, if you can tell me the name of the can ill give you the password to get into it.

also make sure you take a battleship because the rats in the belts are quiet lucrative, fit really good modules to rat with.

[Yezeki]

@adrianv2792 lol, what alliance you in? that sounds so goonish

[adrianv2792]

@Yezeki Freelancer alliance, we pretty much got into everything, mining ops, moon mining, captital ship production research, highsec piracy, highsec suicide ganking of haulers, extortion and ransoming, pos busting, 0.0 gatecamping, lowsec/0.0 pvp with regular hunting nights... sadly we never had good numbers to hold a postion in 0.0 against some of the larger alliances, i stood down as ceo bout 9 months back im not sure where its all at now.

[aptspire]

The Moon King and the Prawn have voted this video thumbs down :P

[adrianv2792]

@aptspire , POST WITH YOUR MAIN ... seriously though if you have a better highsec pos example i can view please indicate the system i can find it in and we will go have a look at it, also by chance do you have alot of isk , bpos , ships and other expensive material.. its for .. research....

[non91]

good quality tutorial, everyone wondering about this should watch this vid for sure.

[SecuritronXI]

As a young budding industry pilot I really enjoyed your no-bullshit simplistic explination of how to set things up.

Thanks much!

[Quinton595]

Real pain in the ass to do this shit... You're gonna love it :P

Thanks man, this helped me set up my POS

[medievalman86]

For High sec POS only, is there any structure that you cant anchor?(basically im just looking for ways to optimize high sec mining both ore and anything else i can mine.,.. got full t2 fitted hulks, have an orca..just wondering if these would help me... and also, if someone attacks the POS, does concord come like they do if you attack a npc or player you dont have kill rights to?

[adrianv2792]

@medievalman86 some structures require sov rights on the system to anchor (0.0 only) ie cap ship array/cyno jammer.. mining ice for afew hours will fuel your pos for a week easy, just need to consider the startbase charter cost. if anchored in highsec. lastly in highsec if a pos is attacked concord will react UNLESS, they have a legal wardeck agaisnt your corp in which case, its up to the corp to defend it. in lowsec you can attack a pos but incur a global crime flag and sec hit for doing so.

[MrTacticalTeabag]

awesome videos very instructional, but how would you go about getting one in high sec? is there a certain sec level (say 0.7) that you can't set up a pos in any higher sec level?

[adrianv2792]

@MrTacticalTeabag

yes, you need a corp standing *not personal .. of 5.0 or higher, this corp standing is taken as an average of all the members standings in the corp, you will also need to factor in starbase charters to the fuel cost, you can cheat the system abit by moving corp memebers to an alt corp, keeping the highstanding memebers in it will take the corp standing up, which takes abotu 2weeks, anchor the tower, once tower is anchored you can have whateva standing you like.

[15firekid]

is there a beam that fires

[adrianv2792]

@15firekid from the weapons on the pos, YES well depending on the weaposn you use, amaar pos's look cool when they are firing, but usualy the fleet beating on the pos looks cooler and is generaly firing more.

as for the mining array, no .. it just does some particle effects.

[Janitor989]

this was a good video. ..obviously.

[CrisonMusic]

Hey great video! So how would i sell say the materials i have just harvested? Would I Get a jump freighter and go back and forth? :D ty

[adrianv2792]

depends on where you are if your 0.0 .. yeah jump freighter or carrier with rigs will do .. also depends on volumes.

[kurtleics]

Thanks very much for the video tutorial man!

There are a few things, especially the linkage, that CCP just dosent teach.

Actually ccp dont teach you anything about eve. They basically say, here is a game, now you figure it all out haha.

[MagusUnion]

lol, yeah, about how it is... but it keeps the dumb players off the MMO... course, piracy is always an easy noob job... :P

[lewiar]

Can you have only 1, or more moon harvesters, and if so does it take more than one silo etc?

[adrianv2792]

you can have more than 1 moon harvester, BUT yes, it needs its own silo, you CAN NOT have two harvesters going to the one silo. keep in mind you can do away with the coupling arrays, they arent needed. *medium tower can handle 2 harvs, 2 silos without much chop, maybe look at amaarr tower.

[Comito126]

This was a good video, I'm sure it came in handy for a lot of people.

I'm a little disappointed, though... I was expecting the harvesting array to be an epic laser, not a trickle of particles.

[Garpgasm]

son, i am dissapoint

[Jugman10000]

how do you rotate your structures?

[adrianv2792]

TO THE BEST OF MY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE YOU DONT.

a moon harvesting array when anchored will automaticaly poin t at the moon its mining off of.

[gumpcom]

Jesus. That linking part had my mind imploding until I watched this video. Thanks!

[adrianv2792]

yeah im ashamed to admit it took me 2 days to work it out, alot of how to guides just say "now set the link" but dont explain how, something i wanted to address in this video.

[PeXis]

haha CCP just couldn't make that moon mining link system any more complicated :D

This shit isn't probably even documented anywhere?

[J3AD]

GREAT JOB, THANK U. KEEP THE GOOD WORK

[ThunderWindz]

thanks! subbed and 5 stars! I'm so much gonna make a moon harvesting pos, in a very low traffic system :)

[hitman1924]

thank you so much for the vid help i spent hours trying to find out how to link. even did the ingame thing and this vid solved it in about 30 seconds.

[adrianv2792]

hey no problems send all donations of isk or moon material / thanks to "morby" in game.

[zardozpsi]

Niiiice, thanks a lot for the video mate! One question though. Are cruise/missile batteries useful? My 0.0 setup for the moon mining, although caldari, I've been thinking to fit with projectiles. Missile batteries use cap and cap is 0 during reinforcement mode, so not quite useful for helping a defense fleet.

[adrianv2792]

As a general rule the more that shoots the better, the problem comes when in reinforced anything using CPU will be "incapacitated", yes this includes weapons arrays..

You'll notice mimitar weapons arrays dont use CPU.(hint)

The other problem with missiles is flight time, ive known people in the past to use intercepters or nanos to simply outrun the missiles until the pos runs out of ammo or while more support gets into position or weapons is incapacitated.

[dublindave78]

Very helpful. thanks mate!

[adrianv2792]

No problem, its easier than trying to read some adobe setup guide that mises half of the info anyway.