@stratocaster1986able One day you will know to laugh or cry for sure but I hardly think that in the meantime laughing at me or fearing me is doing anyone any good!
@stratocaster1986able ,,,GOD LOVES YOU TOO....REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WAYS,,ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR AND BE CHANGED AS I HAVE FOR 43 YEARS...GOD IS REAL..
Want to see the Garden of Eden? Look at my videos. I found it. Its located in the North West section of Iran. This is no joke. I really did find it. Look at my videos and see for yourself!
All we need is the good bible and some "good science" never bad people,ect...( i belive in a balance of things ), like god has for us all and , science is part of our life and we can fix what we need to know or use as a tool , BUT WE MUST NEVER THINK THAT WE ARE GOD'S OURSELVES. belive in one real god ,from heaven !
keep a real balance in your life PLEASE (love ,not hate!)
I agree that life is amazing. But I think it's too easy just to say "it is God" .. But it is also different as we believe that God is. I certainly do not think that it can be described as a "he. "
It is very human interpretation. So it is perhaps closer man who created God.
@SATlVA It is amazing and wonderful to look around us and see all that is.
It is not easy to say God created - anyone who does gets ridiculed and rejected
To believe that all the information needed to create life as we know it was produced by randomness/selectioin from a soup seems to me to be the height of wishful thinking. We have no evidence that something that has no life produces life as we know it. One day I think we will know the answer for sure.
The evidence clearly points away from some chance initiation of the universe. Open your mind and ask where did the engery or source or materials come from to initiate the big bang or whatever un-supported theory you can come up with? Simple, nothing comes from nothing and the design in the world re: earth, humans, animals begs the question who is the designer? This is where you must start your search if you are honest with yourself.
@PapaJoFilms God is a thing created 2000 years ago by humans for not being scared of death, and explaining what we can prove with science today. God is the reason why there are so much wars in the world..
GOD IS BEYOND AWESOME, BEYOND AMAZING. THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE how AWESOME AND AMAZING HE IS. His WISDOM is BEYOND ANY WORDS ABILITY TO DESCRIBE IT. Didn't like the music but the pis are More than amazing!!!!!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but in the beginning there was an extrastructural quantum foam of energy reactions. The single string of the first instant contained the energy of a billion suns. This string exploded outwards, unlooping into a billion billion billion particles of condensed energy. These many different particles formed the atoms of every star, planet and living thing. Go read some science.
You write science fiction because it requires the suspension of the fundamental laws of science and I quote from the very books you tell me to read.
There are not even scientifically proven explanations of what made the particles stop expanding and start to clump together to form stars. Check the maths!
You only assume it must have happened this way because how else could it have happened?
@PapaJoFilms Your dismissal of a theory no less valid then yours belittles you. Also, please cite these books specifically or I cannot verify your sources. And what do you know of the "fundamental laws of science"? the relevant 'math' is constantly developing and quite delights in changing the rules every few years...
@Baryon321 I am not trying to prove anything, I will leave that up to people who know far more than I do, but I have read enough over the years to know that both sides have a load of theories.
I object to bad science, undeclared assumptions, reject of evidence that does not fit and people assuming that they are right.
This video is about the marvelous universe which I believe God created; feel free to believe what you want but keep your beliefs to yourself or make your own video.
@PapaJoFilms No, you are not proving anything, you are the one making unfounded assertions about the fundamental nature of the universe, while simultaneously claiming to leave 'proof' to people that "know more than I do". "both sides" asserts that this is some sort of open discussion, rather than 1/2 of the world having their fingers in their ears and humming loudly. You are free to dislike "bad science" - you have no science.
@Baryon321 I may not be a scientist but there is plenty of science out there if you want to examine it. s8int.com is a good place to start if you dont know any.
@FatMucnher The point is that this structure of space and it's contents are the product of an ancient explosion. If you look at radiotelescope imagery this is quite obvious. The concepts of conservation of energy etc are part of this space and did not necessarily govern its initial point or space. It is quite pointless to speculate on the laws of an 'outside' space that is necessarily unobservable. That is what you guys do. Random speculation.
@Baryon321 No bubble burst here! Where did the quantum foam come from? How about the energy itself? Again, as I've asked people like you, how do you get something from nothing? Oh, that's right, science explains all that! NOT. True science must admit that something cannot come from nothing. Talk about being unscientific!! I think you need to re-read some science!!! Science itself points to a Creator. Ever hear of a book called Case for a Creator. Pick it up and you might learn something.
@Baryon321 and these things happened from absolutely nothing ,then we became soup ,then we turned into something that was solid and swam and had legs ,then walked out of water.We all know about your science,the thing is God created science.I believe in God ,you believe in nothing,God bless.btw your theory is based on one guys theory look up chuck missler.
@TheKith88 God creator and creation make no sense at all. Tell me what is the purpose of stillbirth ? What is the purpose of creating life, to terminate it even before birth ? Where is this creator when 120.000 birth defects happen yearly in the US alone. Where was this LOVING creator when 100.000 innocent children perished under the rubble of their dwellings in Haiti ? Why did your creator create about 2 million substances toxic to man ?
@tallliza That said, humans posses a connection called soul. Which is a part of the real big soul, we are all part of the mother soul or father soul, which could be called God. The supreme soul we all form part of... it is another of my conclusions
man i wish i could explore the universe! remember how in men in black the universe was just in a tiny marble in a little bag full of marbles and this huge alien had it? wow imagine if thats how it really was! you never know! SEE!!
Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion in such an erudite and effusive manner which gives me the opportunity to address the improvement of the video.
Now the Garden of Eden is not the whole world so it is entirely possible for plants and animals to have been created before Adam, they are just not mentioned because it is not germain to the purpose of these verses.
I understand that to really know what these scriptures mean and to know why they are written a knowledge of hebrew literature is useful. Please talk about it on a site that is set up to do this - not a video on the heavens!
I see no contradiction; just different ways of telling the events from different perspectives that place more emphasis on some elements than others. Consistent with other passages in the bible, not every version includes all the details.
However, this video is only about the amazing stars, galaxies and the universe. Please go elsewhere for an explanation of biblical exposition.
@PapaJoFilms "just different ways of telling the events " Sorry, no. Genesis Chapter 1 v11- grass, herbs, trees v20, 21- fish, fowls, marine animals v.25- land animals v27- Man and Woman created together Chapter 2 v.5- no plants yet v.7- Man created v8- garden planted, Man put in it v9- trees appear v19- every beast and fowl created v22- Eve created These are mutually exclusive sequences. Just look at where animals are created in each account.
You seem determined to hi-jack this video for your own purposes!! Why would you do that? The video does not mention Adam and Eve.
You say that v27 says Man and Woman are created together. Not true. The actual verse is: "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
The point of this verse is clearly that we are created in God's image. I know this because it is repeated in different ways. The exact timing and sequence of their creation is not pertinent to this and is not stated one way or another.
You state that they are created together but that is your assumption unsubstantiated by the verse, which simply makes the point that God created both men and women in His image.
The point of this verse is clearly that we are created in God's image. I know this because it is repeated in different ways. The exact timing and sequence of their creation is not pertinent to this and is not stated one way or another.
You state that they are created together but that is your assumption unsubstantiated by the verse, which simply makes the point that God created both men and women in His image.
You have to look elsewhere in the bible to see when He created them, so look for the verses which is clearly giving information in sequence.
In chapter 2 you state that God created Man before the plants. Again you have to look at the purpose of these verses and the emphasis here is probably the Garden of Eden.
God has no physical body nor can be one, he can create one for sure, He does not have or had a son and No one like him, we cannot describe him , he is Only one and We call him Allah .
I'll call him Allah, if I can call you 'shitbird'! You are very stupid, you smell, you have bad table manners, you are cruel to cats & dogs, you are a thief, a sexual degenerate, a sissy boy, a person who eats from a garbage pail. You are hated by Allah, he has turned his back on you, because you are evil. And you practice scientology,a devil worship cult,& you are person who steals even from your parents. Your family hates you,everyone hates you, you are known as 'The Hated One'
Seriously you got some huge issues, you need help your fucking bastard ,
Your parents had you before marriage as usual like any one else in your society, you drink alcohol and you dont even know you fucked your mom. your mom was a hoe , you dont wash under ware like anyone else in your stinky society your son of bitch.
Whatever issues I have, I know you, allah and islam, will only make them worse. You belong to a slave death cult, you lack true human emotions, besides anger. Get a girlfriend assboy, stop fantazing about you becoming human, you are defective because you have no brains, no love, no decency and you are filled up with an ego, that thinks you have the answers for others, when you lack answers for yourself. Now go home and behave 'Hated One', you have a murderer's soul.
in the beginning there was the word and the word was with god and the word was god. and all is made by the word of the living god. his name is jesus christ creator of heaven and earth.he is the one ho was, is and will be forever.praise his holy name ! jesus said: i am the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the father but by me by his holy blood we are forgivin for our sins. He is the truth he who believes in him wil never perish but have eternal life.praise his name for his goodness!
@yugoslaaf I'm reading multiple books right now and one of them happens to be a biography of George Washington, your comment a year ago sounds a lot like George himself.
Once again, how could Someone soo famous today not be real? Plus, we have the Bible, that was written like thosands of years ago and people like Ellen G White. We have plenty of evidence of His existence.
There are no contemporary historical records -zilch.There are dozens of contemporary historians from that same period - strangely none of them wrote a single thing about him.
For every knee shall bow before me saith the Lord, & shall confess that I am God. He's @ the door friends, Let us put on our garments & prepare ourselves to meet our master. Peace be with you until I can speak with you in person. Peace
Time, like length, is an implicit part of our universe. The Bible might as well open with the line "Inside the left hand edge of the universe, God created..." Anyone with a proper science education will recognise and understand this. It is clearly saying that God was inside the universe when He created it - which is paradoxial and nonsense. [Bronze age savages didn't know about the structure of spacetime.]
@TunaNose Job new that wind had weight. The bible is just a history book saying that God is real... So believe and be saved. & shout for joy that we have been given eternal life. Seek ye first the kingdom of Good, & all these things shall be added unto you. HE HAS GIVEN IT TO US LITTLE FLOCK TO US :D PEACE
@infinitelove8 If the bible is a history book, it documents the rise of a hatred-based culture of fanatical zealots, instructed by a god that is about as imperfect as any sentient could be.
You're so naturalistic in your thinking! Everything in our finite universe didn't create itself! It's only logical to think something that exists outside time and space could have brought it into motion in the first place. Otherwise where did everything come from? Nothing? That's not logical. We're practically still Bronze age savages with what we know about what's out there!
@Willie0266 It is you that is living in the bronze ages, afraid of the dark behind the treelike that you cannot see the treeline receding into the distance. Civilisation brings knowledge, understanding and peace. Incidentally, if you are going to make claims about physics, space and time, you should consider reading up on it. The universe is an accident. Life is an accident. We are an accident. How anthropocentric are your ideas?
I believe in God. All I want to know is why do people curse people out who do believe instead of listing the reasons they don't? I am a Christian and we don't believe in revenge. People who curse people out who don't believe probably don't even look at themselves. So I understand of how people who call themselves "Christians", should act more like them. My religion is about God and His 2nd coming (My belief), yet I never heard of a Christian based on revenge, they must be of some other religion.
@sonia13311 It's my experience that religionists are more to blame for cursing the nonbelievers, and that the religionists can only provide irrational reasons. The main reason people don't believe in God is because there's no evidence to suggest God is real; it's that simple, really.
God deoesn't need to prove Himself to anybody and let alone to someone who doesn't even take the time to seek the truth about His existence. I find it that more people are hostile to those who are Christians than to those who are not. We don't go around trolling Youtube and critizing others for their beliefs. To each his own and if that person has found the purpose of their existence and God all at once, than more blessings to him.
@Sunriel "We don't go around trolling Youtube and critizing others for their beliefs."
Utter bullshit.
You also start wars, abuse children, persecute homosexuals, oppress women, hinder education, spread malicious lies and propoganda, regularly take part in silly bronze-age rituals etc. "To each his own"...yeah, right...
@TunaNose I agree! ffs its the 21st centuary now! its time to stop living in the dark ages and believing in mythical beings or sum dude floating in the sky! wake up and open ure eyes to the evidence. why the fk do our scientists work so hard day and night to bring us information about this universe when u religious nut-jobs jus dismiss it straight away and say 'uhhhh god it it' its religious fukers that have held technology back for so long! Religions are jus a cult and are bad for people!
There are three kinds of people: those who seek the truth as revealed by a higher authority; those who seek the truth as defined by rational enquiry; and the vast majority, who believe whatever they find convenient. I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough - I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race
Wow! You must know some weird so called Christians. I have yet to meet any that practise what you describe; but that is not to say they have all been perfect.
You talk about rational enquiry; that usually relies upon assumptions, usually reasonable but all take a leap of faith. Not so different from Religions.
But anyway - what do you think about the stars and galaxies - are they not amazing?
"In the beginning ELOHIM created the heaven and the earth." ELOHIM came from Akkadian referring to Supreme Being, a plural form of EL.There's another plural form ELIM & another singular form ELOHA. All mean MIGHTY ONE(S). THEY'RE ANGELS. ELOHIM mean GOOD ANGELS, ELIM: DEVILS, EL GOOD & BAD ONE, ELOHA GOOD ONE for poetry. JHWH ELOHIM means DAD OF THE ANGELS. THE ANGELS created the Universe. DAD ONLY created THEM & MANKIND. The ANGELS ARE ONE: GOD, Westerners' Highest Concept of Divinity. Thanks.
The holy Quran says Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #30)
yeah i agree with you. what i really meant to say was that we worry about insignificant things here that are nothing, wile we have all this beautiful things out there.
How exactly is that misquoted? Yeah, believe it or not, believing you have divine permission to have dominance over other living things and that the universe was created just for you is the epitomy of arrogance.
You are right - I was to wrong to say, 'for me'; it should have said, "for us" as I put in the title at the top.
Why do you misquote me this time - I said 'dominion' and not 'permission to have dominance'.
To be given dominion/authority over something is a position of responsibility not permission to dominate; it is also very humbling to be put in such a situation, so I dont have an epitomy.
It seems you have a problem believing in God as I do. Why do you rail against my beliefs so?
We must make 10 time capsule with the 5 elements together with human DNA and propel them in deep space. Human species will survive forever somewhere somehow...
@Copain1105 Five elements being carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, silicon, magnesium, calcium, sulphur, phosphorus... Oh dear I appear to have run out of space! You plan has a low chance of success as you clearly do not understand chemistry, biology or physics, not to mention mathematics, astronomy, and all those other things you don't understand. Ah well.
You define theory using the word 'fact' - a contadiction in terms designed to make Theory sound like truth?
You through in the word 'mutation' without defining it and talk about transient manifestations of changing gene pools - without defining them. ALL mutations result in something that has the same as before or less - I think there is one of your Scientific Laws that talks about decay - why assume that your mutations will come up with something as complex as dna?
"You define theory using the word 'fact' - a contadiction in terms designed to make Theory sound like truth?"
You clearly fail to understand what theory means in the scientific community. Theory is a model surrounding a natural phenomenon. Theory and fact are not mutually exclusive, on the contrary, scientific theories are based on facts and collected data.
Actually in evolution beneficial mutations help the species go forward creating new data. Harmful ones are weeded out by natural selection.
I have not disputed that theory is based on facts but it also is based on assumptions - you missed my point completely.
With mutation - an eye cannot mutate from a leg gene is my point. Beneficial and Harmful legs will be weeded out or go forward, but it is just a leg, good or bad - again you missed my point. try applying laws of Thermodynamics to make something that never existed
"With mutation - an eye cannot mutate from a leg gene is my point."
That is not all how it works. Gradual developed and mutation has caused significant changes after many generations. For example the eye, first there were light sensitive cells, then cup-eye, pinhole eye and so forth. You clearly do not understand this.
Saying that eyes cannot mutate from leg genes is just utterly redundant.
You make my point for me when you say, "First there were light sensitive cells" I thought first there was a big bang? or a cordial soup? or a single cell? What was there before the first light sensitive cell? Whatever it was, it was not an eye or anything remotely like it.
As we generally know Dad only CREATED the Angels & Mankind. The Angels came out with His pure Substances as we lit Fire, Light followed; Mankind with Angelic Substances & His Substances as Bodies & Souls narrated in Genesis. The Angels MADE the Universe. Dad's ONES have Eternal Values. The Angelic ONES have Temporary Values. Ex Nihilo, Nihil. Those were in Their Concepts before Time. The First ONE has Eternal Values. The LAST One has Temporary Values. We can easily know Their Characteristics.
Beautiful. The only flaw is that we are a fallen people. Everything God created is unmeasurable and beautiful as this video presentation tries to portray.
It is quite simple and also quite profound. If God did not allow flaws (as you put it) then you would not exist, so in His wisdom he allowed Man to do his own thing, simply because He preferred having you around with your flaws rather than without.
But your questions does raise a rather interesting point about flaws. Its like a weed is a plant in the wrong place.
I hope you enjoyed watching what has been created even with their flaws.
I would like to know how I am a result of a flaw in the system. It would be nice to know why there needs to be a flaw in order for everything to work out.
I did not saw you were the result of a flaw - the point is that you are flawed - all humans are flawed.
Well you ask why there need to be flaws - I dont like that word flaw - its your word and is not a Christian word. Sinful is a Christian word and that means not doing what God wants. You choose not to do what God wants and that is called your free will. If you wish to give that up and always do what God wants then how would you like that?.
@PapaJoFilms The Argument From Flaws is called Theodicy, and by most standard of rationale it fails miserably to prove anything other than the relative irrationality of it's proponents.
@Baryon321 An argument from flaws is Theodicy - it does talk about what I had in mind. It is one of many theories and is not what I was talking about.
Free will... God created us with free will. He did not want an army of mindless robots loving him..He wanted creatures that would love Him with their free will. Because we have free will, often times we make the wrong choices..that is our fault not the Lord.
How is it considered free will when you are doomed to eternal torture if you choose the other option? It seems very unfair for a 'loving' being.
By flaws, I was not only referring to the flaws of mankind, but the flaws of how the universe is and set up. If the universe was set up by an omnipotent being with us in mind, why will Earth be engulfed by the sun in 7.6bn yrs, why is the only planet we can live on so hostile, etc.
So, by your reasoning there should be no punishment at all for wrong doings..So let's not punish bank robbers, serial killers, thieves, etc. So the earth will be engulfed by the sun? So what? It's the normal passage of life and death. I really doubt any humans will be around then, the end days are very near. The planet we live on is perfect. It is not hostile...It's US who makes things hostile. We make it hostile because we have free will.
Of course some people should be punished, but not until the end of time, people can actually learn lessons you know. No person should have to go through eternal burning, that is just disgustingly wrong. When the earth is engulfed, it would be the end to (possibly) all life in the universe, would a god really do that? Also, do you rarely go outside or something? Our planet isn't perfect at all, hurricanes, volcanoes, useless land, ice ages... just to name a few.
What happens when something is burned up? It turns to ash and ceases to exist. The same happens when the unsaved are judged and cast into hell. They burn in fire and their names are wiped from the book of life, like they never existed.
The only beings that will suffer eternal torment is satan and his follwers ie: the angels that were cast out with him.
Hurricanes, volcanoes etc, all have their place in balancing earth. Volcanoes give birth to new land, hurricanes keep things in check, think of it as a giant vacuum cleaner. As far as ice ages go, well that's just part of the natural history of the earth. If it had not been for the ice age, there would have been no land bridge to north america from russia, there would not have been the mass migration of people to the new world.
You also have to understand, that when the Bible mentions Hades, it was comparing it to the wasteland outside of the walled cities, where there was constant burning of everyone's garbage. To be cast out of a city and left to fend for yourself was an unspeakable horror to have to suffer through. And usually meant death.
No water, no food, no safety...and wild animals roaming looking for flesh to eat. Keep in mind the area this was set in, it is still pretty much a desolate wasteland.
So when non-believers, other religions and criminals die, they die twice, once due to whatever caused it on earth and another by burning a spirit with fire?
Do you honestly not see the hazards of this world? Diseases kill many people, along with hurricanes(remember Katrina? Was that just a 'cleaning'?). A proper, loving god that had the power to help the world wouldn't sacrifice his own sacred creation just to clean.
You are blaming man for the flaws of the universe and earth; it is illogical the believe that. When a species has only been around for the tiniest fraction of the universe's history, it is ridiculous to assume that we are the most important beings in the universe who can live forever and can change anything, when we are just beautiful examples of emergence, when order is made from disorder. It is a natural process that may seem designed because of how our mind works, but it isn't supernatural.
7.6bn years? mmmmmm...... or was it 4.6543bn yrs? get a life!!! That is just someone calculation partially based on assumptions. Who knows what else is going to happen in that time. Maybe another big bang?
"That is just someone calculation partially based on assumptions."
Actually it's based on mathematical equations, you know, science.
It is the most accurate time we have been able to predict. Of course after time goes by it will get even more accurate. And btw, the universe is about 13 billion years old and the earth is about 4.55 billions years old. Also, if you have doubts about the big bang as a theory, please read about red shift. Thanks.
I am glad you agree they are predictions, I wish you just stated them as beliefs and not facts.
Predicts are always based on assumptions, eg nothing that I have not thought of will happen, that during the past conditions remained the same as I think they are and were. I have no doubt Big Bang is a theory - lets keep that way and don' t portray it as a fact.
Predictions are not just guesses or random numbers thrown around. They are based on scientific calculations. And again, facts and theories are not mutually exclusive. But like I said, please read about red shift if you are actually interested.
typical argument - you make an argument against and argument I never made and you ignore my point. Since when are assumptions guesses? My point is simply that there are assumptions as well as facts and theories. There has to be because there is so much unknown. That is why science can continually evolving its understanding.
You were doing so well and then you said, "In all probability..." Having studied statistics, I fail to understand that phrase - perhaps you can explain it - it appears to be no argument at all.
Oh and how do you investigate the fact that everything that exists because if you can do that then you in fact might be the missing link or God.
That is a god of the gaps argument. The fact that we cannot accurately know how this happened does NOT mean that a deity did it. There is no evidence that suggests it. Most natural processes do indeed happen by themselves. There is no deity prodding and poking to make it work.
God of the gaps is when most phenomena are explained by natural means instead of magical and divine ones. Which leads Gods role to be meaningless in those cases i.e. god is not needed.
For example before it was taught that God was the creator of lighting. Now we have scientific explanations for this. God is "retreating" to his gaps (so to speak), which are few.
For a more detailed answer please read the Wikipedia entry. Thanks.
Ahh yes, Wikipedia. Now there is a really reliable source of info. How do you explain that God is not the creator of lightning? If God is the source of all things, then he is the source of the activities of nature which produce lightning. Ergo, God created lightning. No gap there. Next!
The argument is sound deductive logic, premise and conclusion. If God exists and is the source of all things (including natural phenomena), then he is, logically, the creator of lightning. What is your evidence against this? Applying personal prejudices, such as the nonexistence of God, is not sound science. Therefore, you must empirically prove that God does not exist to prove my conclusion wrong. Whether you want to take it seriously or not is irrelevant. The logic is sound.
"If God exists and is the source of all things (including natural phenomena), then he is, logically, the creator of lightning."
If He is the creator of all things natural, then you cannot believe in gravity. Intelligent falling is the thing that keeps theists stuck to the face of the planet, or thehand of God. You cannot pick and choose what science works and which ones don't.
"If He is the creator of all things natural, then you cannot believe in gravity." What are you talking about? This comment makes absolutely no sense at all. Sorry.
Do you believe that He is the creator of all things natural as you say? If so, it suggests that you do not believe in gravity,and that it is His hand that keeps us from floating around in space. Or is gravity not natural, and therefore not subject to theistic reasoning? I hope that clears it up for you.
I still do not have a clue what you are trying to say. Yes, I believe God is the creator of all things. How does that suggest I don't believe in gravity? I simply have no idea what you're trying to get at by saying, "Or is gravity not natural, and therefore not subject to theistic reasoning."
If you believe in God being the creator of ALL things, then it follows that you believe that there is a divine hand that acts on us in a way that keeps us from floating around in space. A kind of 'Intelligent Falling' if you will. This fits in better with your theistic belief that God is the creator of everything, better than the scientific explanation of gravity that has no room for God whatsoever. I can't make it any clearer than that.
I really wonder about your ability to reason logically. In what way does the existence of, or the scientific explanation of gravity leave no room for God? If God is the source of all we see, which would include natural phenomena such as gravity, how is gravity in conflict with God. I hope you're not trying to put forth an argument that gravity disproves the existence of God.
"Scientific explanations...," Why do so many commit the error of believing that God and science are antithetical to each other? To arrive at a scientific explanation of a phenomenon is not proof that God was not involved. Again, logically, if God is the source of all things, then he is the source of all phenomena which we study scientifically. Science is simply understanding God's creation, it is not the antithesis of that creation. God does not retreat from science, he authored it.
"God does not retreat from science, he authored it. "
Oh please, not again.
Evidence for this?
"Therefore, you must empirically prove that God does not exist"
You are a retard. Proving a negative is a logical fallacy.
YOU have the burden of proof. YOU are the one asserting a deity. Get it? Got it? Good.
In all your text you have not given any evidence for your blatant and pathetic assertion of a deity. So please. Stop making a fool of yourself and quit while your ahead.
Typical evolutionist responses. You can talk a game, but you can't play it. In all your text you have not given any evidence for your blatant and pathetic denial of a deity. It's a Red Herring argument which tries to always put the onus on the other party. You like to think you are logical but when the action starts, you run. Name calling, very mature & so effective. When you think you have something to offer or feel you can provide any kind of proof for your claims, try again. Still no gaps.
"Proving a negative is a logical fallacy." Nonsense. All kinds of things can be proven negatively. If someone claimed there were 2 moons orbiting the Earth, I could prove the negative, ie, there are not 2 moons orbiting the Earth. In the process of proving there is only 1 moon I would prove there are NOT 2. I think you need some work on your critical thinking. You like appealing to logic, but I don't think you really understand it.
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demonhampster14 1 month ago
what god are u people talking about
troythatboy 3 months ago
@troythatboy the one that made the universe
demonhampster14 1 month ago
@demonhampster14 witch one there are to many to count
troythatboy 1 month ago
@demonhampster14 and dont feed me some monotheistic crud please have a logical response
troythatboy 1 month ago
@troythatboy well you know considering Christians believe in the one true God I think Im talking about that one
demonhampster14 1 month ago
@demonhampster14 When you understand why you dismiss all other gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
SelfRefutingIdea 1 month ago
As neat as all the pictures are, I'm just wondering what the music is.
icyladyzarin 5 months ago
@icyladyzarin Hi, Thank you for your comment. I composed and created the music on Cubase to go with the photographs.
PapaJoFilms 5 months ago
Christians make me laugh so very hard. They also scare me too.
stratocaster1986able 5 months ago
@stratocaster1986able One day you will know to laugh or cry for sure but I hardly think that in the meantime laughing at me or fearing me is doing anyone any good!
PapaJoFilms 5 months ago 3
@stratocaster1986able Thank you, I got exactly what I wanted; a reaction.
stratocaster1986able 5 months ago
@stratocaster1986able ,,,GOD LOVES YOU TOO....REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WAYS,,ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR AND BE CHANGED AS I HAVE FOR 43 YEARS...GOD IS REAL..
SuperJOHNWELLER 5 months ago
@stratocaster1986able
Laugh my friend the day will come you will no longer laugh.
Hope God will open your eyes. I will prayer for today what now.
Father in the Heaven the King, the Majesty, Thank you to open this Person eyes Father
please Father let him see the Light Of the Name Of Jesus-Christ. Amen
I Thank you . Amen
Gympowerman 3 months ago
@stratocaster1986able tell me what makes you laugh because i like to laugh?
mrchangingmankind 6 days ago
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"The Bible was written by men, so it can't be accurate" the atheist said.
"A man's hand stroke the parchment, but the words were influenced and even directed by God," the Christian said.
"Well, I don't believe in God nor do I conceive of any reason to. Science holds more facts and explanations for why things are," the atheist replied.
"But science was written by men," the Chrisian said. "I am now utterly confused on your way of thinking."
eagle8290 7 months ago
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eagle8290 7 months ago
All we need is the good bible and some "good science" never bad people,ect...( i belive in a balance of things ), like god has for us all and , science is part of our life and we can fix what we need to know or use as a tool , BUT WE MUST NEVER THINK THAT WE ARE GOD'S OURSELVES. belive in one real god ,from heaven !
keep a real balance in your life PLEASE (love ,not hate!)
darknightkiller39 9 months ago
What created the big bang then? And don't tell me it's a load of nuclear fission or atomic crap, because you know I'll just ask what created them?
FatMucnher 9 months ago
@FatMucnher The universe was sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure.
Slabobin 8 months ago
I agree that life is amazing. But I think it's too easy just to say "it is God" .. But it is also different as we believe that God is. I certainly do not think that it can be described as a "he. "
It is very human interpretation. So it is perhaps closer man who created God.
SATlVA 10 months ago
@SATlVA It is amazing and wonderful to look around us and see all that is.
It is not easy to say God created - anyone who does gets ridiculed and rejected
To believe that all the information needed to create life as we know it was produced by randomness/selectioin from a soup seems to me to be the height of wishful thinking. We have no evidence that something that has no life produces life as we know it. One day I think we will know the answer for sure.
Thanks for your comment :)
Passion2Create 10 months ago
ALLAH IS A TRUE GOD
PEACE TO ALL
yasir0ahmed 10 months ago
The evidence clearly points away from some chance initiation of the universe. Open your mind and ask where did the engery or source or materials come from to initiate the big bang or whatever un-supported theory you can come up with? Simple, nothing comes from nothing and the design in the world re: earth, humans, animals begs the question who is the designer? This is where you must start your search if you are honest with yourself.
vettepowertrip 10 months ago
funny, i didn't see any pictures of god in your photos.
Elvisdogg 1 year ago
@Elvisdogg funny, no one has seen your brain either!
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago 15
@PapaJoFilms God is a thing created 2000 years ago by humans for not being scared of death, and explaining what we can prove with science today. God is the reason why there are so much wars in the world..
DjAotaka 1 year ago
@DjAotaka so true :) -i think
SATlVA 10 months ago
@PapaJoFilms Unless he went for a brain scan, then a few people have...
Slabobin 8 months ago
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DjAotaka 1 year ago
@Elvisdogg I agree with you >_>
zackdabeastable 6 months ago
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@Elvisdogg That must mean god doesn't exist. Yeah, great argument!
TheLagunaSunrise 1 month ago
GOD IS BEYOND AWESOME, BEYOND AMAZING. THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE how AWESOME AND AMAZING HE IS. His WISDOM is BEYOND ANY WORDS ABILITY TO DESCRIBE IT. Didn't like the music but the pis are More than amazing!!!!!
Only1KevRamon 1 year ago
Sorry to burst your bubble, but in the beginning there was an extrastructural quantum foam of energy reactions. The single string of the first instant contained the energy of a billion suns. This string exploded outwards, unlooping into a billion billion billion particles of condensed energy. These many different particles formed the atoms of every star, planet and living thing. Go read some science.
Baryon321 1 year ago
@Baryon321 You sound arrogant.
You write science fiction because it requires the suspension of the fundamental laws of science and I quote from the very books you tell me to read.
There are not even scientifically proven explanations of what made the particles stop expanding and start to clump together to form stars. Check the maths!
You only assume it must have happened this way because how else could it have happened?
To believe the big band needs blind faith.
Join the club!
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
@PapaJoFilms it makes more sense that a cosmic being spoke it all into creation doesnt it?
pistolpete667 1 year ago
@PapaJoFilms Your dismissal of a theory no less valid then yours belittles you. Also, please cite these books specifically or I cannot verify your sources. And what do you know of the "fundamental laws of science"? the relevant 'math' is constantly developing and quite delights in changing the rules every few years...
Baryon321 1 year ago
@Baryon321 I am not trying to prove anything, I will leave that up to people who know far more than I do, but I have read enough over the years to know that both sides have a load of theories.
I object to bad science, undeclared assumptions, reject of evidence that does not fit and people assuming that they are right.
This video is about the marvelous universe which I believe God created; feel free to believe what you want but keep your beliefs to yourself or make your own video.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago 3
@PapaJoFilms No, you are not proving anything, you are the one making unfounded assertions about the fundamental nature of the universe, while simultaneously claiming to leave 'proof' to people that "know more than I do". "both sides" asserts that this is some sort of open discussion, rather than 1/2 of the world having their fingers in their ears and humming loudly. You are free to dislike "bad science" - you have no science.
Baryon321 10 months ago
@Baryon321 I may not be a scientist but there is plenty of science out there if you want to examine it. s8int.com is a good place to start if you dont know any.
Passion2Create 10 months ago
Where did those quantum foam or energy reactions come from? Science has not proved what created the elements that caused the big bang.
FatMucnher 10 months ago
@FatMucnher The point is that this structure of space and it's contents are the product of an ancient explosion. If you look at radiotelescope imagery this is quite obvious. The concepts of conservation of energy etc are part of this space and did not necessarily govern its initial point or space. It is quite pointless to speculate on the laws of an 'outside' space that is necessarily unobservable. That is what you guys do. Random speculation.
Baryon321 10 months ago
@Baryon321 No bubble burst here! Where did the quantum foam come from? How about the energy itself? Again, as I've asked people like you, how do you get something from nothing? Oh, that's right, science explains all that! NOT. True science must admit that something cannot come from nothing. Talk about being unscientific!! I think you need to re-read some science!!! Science itself points to a Creator. Ever hear of a book called Case for a Creator. Pick it up and you might learn something.
figgytwo1 9 months ago
@Baryon321 and these things happened from absolutely nothing ,then we became soup ,then we turned into something that was solid and swam and had legs ,then walked out of water.We all know about your science,the thing is God created science.I believe in God ,you believe in nothing,God bless.btw your theory is based on one guys theory look up chuck missler.
TheKith88 7 months ago
@TheKith88 God creator and creation make no sense at all. Tell me what is the purpose of stillbirth ? What is the purpose of creating life, to terminate it even before birth ? Where is this creator when 120.000 birth defects happen yearly in the US alone. Where was this LOVING creator when 100.000 innocent children perished under the rubble of their dwellings in Haiti ? Why did your creator create about 2 million substances toxic to man ?
tallliza 6 months ago
@tallliza The only present creator of GOOD and EVIL is the human being... It is my conclusion
8DeaD7 5 months ago
@tallliza That said, humans posses a connection called soul. Which is a part of the real big soul, we are all part of the mother soul or father soul, which could be called God. The supreme soul we all form part of... it is another of my conclusions
8DeaD7 5 months ago
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ramsta2008 1 year ago
@ramsta2008 thank you for the comment - I wrote the music especially for the photographs using Cubase
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
@midnitegroper pls take your discussion else where unless you care to comment on the subject matter of the video
Passion2Create 1 year ago
what a beautiful video
FLPman 1 year ago
man i wish i could explore the universe! remember how in men in black the universe was just in a tiny marble in a little bag full of marbles and this huge alien had it? wow imagine if thats how it really was! you never know! SEE!!
poopoopaula101 1 year ago
Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion in such an erudite and effusive manner which gives me the opportunity to address the improvement of the video.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
As I known the photos which was taken of Hubble telescope showed us when galaxies started to reach to his actually figures, sorry for bad english
wojownikpolski 1 year ago
Now the Garden of Eden is not the whole world so it is entirely possible for plants and animals to have been created before Adam, they are just not mentioned because it is not germain to the purpose of these verses.
I understand that to really know what these scriptures mean and to know why they are written a knowledge of hebrew literature is useful. Please talk about it on a site that is set up to do this - not a video on the heavens!
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
Which version of Creation in the Bible do you like best?
Genesis Chapter ONE,
in which humans were created AFTER plants and animals?
Or chapter TWO, in which man was created BEFORE plants and animals?
Chapter ONE,
in which man and woman were created at the same time?
Or chapter TWO,
in which man was created before the plants
and woman was created after the animals?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69
I see no contradiction; just different ways of telling the events from different perspectives that place more emphasis on some elements than others. Consistent with other passages in the bible, not every version includes all the details.
However, this video is only about the amazing stars, galaxies and the universe. Please go elsewhere for an explanation of biblical exposition.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69
You seem determined to hi-jack this video for your own purposes!! Why would you do that? The video does not mention Adam and Eve.
You say that v27 says Man and Woman are created together. Not true. The actual verse is: "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
The point of this verse is clearly that we are created in God's image. I know this because it is repeated in different ways. The exact timing and sequence of their creation is not pertinent to this and is not stated one way or another.
You state that they are created together but that is your assumption unsubstantiated by the verse, which simply makes the point that God created both men and women in His image.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
The point of this verse is clearly that we are created in God's image. I know this because it is repeated in different ways. The exact timing and sequence of their creation is not pertinent to this and is not stated one way or another.
You state that they are created together but that is your assumption unsubstantiated by the verse, which simply makes the point that God created both men and women in His image.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
You have to look elsewhere in the bible to see when He created them, so look for the verses which is clearly giving information in sequence.
In chapter 2 you state that God created Man before the plants. Again you have to look at the purpose of these verses and the emphasis here is probably the Garden of Eden.
PapaJoFilms 1 year ago
"You seem determined to hi-jack this video for your own purposes!!"
Take some responsibility, Pops.
It was your choice to respond.
Why do you pretend that these chapters do not provide a narrative sequence?
They certainly do.
And the sequence in chapter 1
contradicts the sequence in chapter 2.
Youtube has thoroughly screwed up the comment section.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
God has no physical body nor can be one, he can create one for sure, He does not have or had a son and No one like him, we cannot describe him , he is Only one and We call him Allah .
kamaaladiin 1 year ago
fntime 1 year ago
Seriously you got some huge issues, you need help your fucking bastard ,
Your parents had you before marriage as usual like any one else in your society, you drink alcohol and you dont even know you fucked your mom. your mom was a hoe , you dont wash under ware like anyone else in your stinky society your son of bitch.
kamaaladiin 1 year ago
fntime 1 year ago
in the beginning there was the word and the word was with god and the word was god. and all is made by the word of the living god. his name is jesus christ creator of heaven and earth.he is the one ho was, is and will be forever.praise his holy name ! jesus said: i am the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the father but by me by his holy blood we are forgivin for our sins. He is the truth he who believes in him wil never perish but have eternal life.praise his name for his goodness!
yugoslaaf 2 years ago 10
@yugoslaaf I'm reading multiple books right now and one of them happens to be a biography of George Washington, your comment a year ago sounds a lot like George himself.
Gaelheretic4 8 months ago
@yugoslaaf You fucking moronic bible dweller.
bedvd01 5 months ago
praise the lord
DragonMan933 2 years ago
Yes there are. Martin Luther King, Mel Gibson, Fred Rogers, Kirk Cameron, Dave Thomas, Alice Cooper, Randy Travis, Mozart, etc...
sonia13311 2 years ago
Once again, how could Someone soo famous today not be real? Plus, we have the Bible, that was written like thosands of years ago and people like Ellen G White. We have plenty of evidence of His existence.
sonia13311 2 years ago
There are no contemporary historical records -zilch.There are dozens of contemporary historians from that same period - strangely none of them wrote a single thing about him.
stratocaster539 2 years ago
I love this video :D It really shows how awesome God is! <3
sonia13311 2 years ago
For every knee shall bow before me saith the Lord, & shall confess that I am God. He's @ the door friends, Let us put on our garments & prepare ourselves to meet our master. Peace be with you until I can speak with you in person. Peace
infinitelove8 2 years ago
"In the beginning, God created..."
Time, like length, is an implicit part of our universe. The Bible might as well open with the line "Inside the left hand edge of the universe, God created..." Anyone with a proper science education will recognise and understand this. It is clearly saying that God was inside the universe when He created it - which is paradoxial and nonsense. [Bronze age savages didn't know about the structure of spacetime.]
TunaNose 2 years ago
@TunaNose Job new that wind had weight. The bible is just a history book saying that God is real... So believe and be saved. & shout for joy that we have been given eternal life. Seek ye first the kingdom of Good, & all these things shall be added unto you. HE HAS GIVEN IT TO US LITTLE FLOCK TO US :D PEACE
infinitelove8 2 years ago
@infinitelove8 If the bible is a history book, it documents the rise of a hatred-based culture of fanatical zealots, instructed by a god that is about as imperfect as any sentient could be.
Baryon321 10 months ago
Tuna Nose!
You're so naturalistic in your thinking! Everything in our finite universe didn't create itself! It's only logical to think something that exists outside time and space could have brought it into motion in the first place. Otherwise where did everything come from? Nothing? That's not logical. We're practically still Bronze age savages with what we know about what's out there!
Willie0266 2 years ago
@Willie0266 It is you that is living in the bronze ages, afraid of the dark behind the treelike that you cannot see the treeline receding into the distance. Civilisation brings knowledge, understanding and peace. Incidentally, if you are going to make claims about physics, space and time, you should consider reading up on it. The universe is an accident. Life is an accident. We are an accident. How anthropocentric are your ideas?
Baryon321 10 months ago
I believe in God. All I want to know is why do people curse people out who do believe instead of listing the reasons they don't? I am a Christian and we don't believe in revenge. People who curse people out who don't believe probably don't even look at themselves. So I understand of how people who call themselves "Christians", should act more like them. My religion is about God and His 2nd coming (My belief), yet I never heard of a Christian based on revenge, they must be of some other religion.
sonia13311 2 years ago
@sonia13311 It's my experience that religionists are more to blame for cursing the nonbelievers, and that the religionists can only provide irrational reasons. The main reason people don't believe in God is because there's no evidence to suggest God is real; it's that simple, really.
TunaNose 2 years ago
God deoesn't need to prove Himself to anybody and let alone to someone who doesn't even take the time to seek the truth about His existence. I find it that more people are hostile to those who are Christians than to those who are not. We don't go around trolling Youtube and critizing others for their beliefs. To each his own and if that person has found the purpose of their existence and God all at once, than more blessings to him.
Sunriel 2 years ago
@Sunriel "We don't go around trolling Youtube and critizing others for their beliefs."
Utter bullshit.
You also start wars, abuse children, persecute homosexuals, oppress women, hinder education, spread malicious lies and propoganda, regularly take part in silly bronze-age rituals etc. "To each his own"...yeah, right...
TunaNose 2 years ago
@TunaNose I agree! ffs its the 21st centuary now! its time to stop living in the dark ages and believing in mythical beings or sum dude floating in the sky! wake up and open ure eyes to the evidence. why the fk do our scientists work so hard day and night to bring us information about this universe when u religious nut-jobs jus dismiss it straight away and say 'uhhhh god it it' its religious fukers that have held technology back for so long! Religions are jus a cult and are bad for people!
UKRemixed 2 years ago
There are three kinds of people: those who seek the truth as revealed by a higher authority; those who seek the truth as defined by rational enquiry; and the vast majority, who believe whatever they find convenient. I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough - I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race
Melissa230984 2 years ago
Wow! You must know some weird so called Christians. I have yet to meet any that practise what you describe; but that is not to say they have all been perfect.
You talk about rational enquiry; that usually relies upon assumptions, usually reasonable but all take a leap of faith. Not so different from Religions.
But anyway - what do you think about the stars and galaxies - are they not amazing?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
"In the beginning ELOHIM created the heaven and the earth." ELOHIM came from Akkadian referring to Supreme Being, a plural form of EL.There's another plural form ELIM & another singular form ELOHA. All mean MIGHTY ONE(S). THEY'RE ANGELS. ELOHIM mean GOOD ANGELS, ELIM: DEVILS, EL GOOD & BAD ONE, ELOHA GOOD ONE for poetry. JHWH ELOHIM means DAD OF THE ANGELS. THE ANGELS created the Universe. DAD ONLY created THEM & MANKIND. The ANGELS ARE ONE: GOD, Westerners' Highest Concept of Divinity. Thanks.
YBPhotoeditor06 2 years ago
who made god?
sgthunter09 2 years ago
I dont know, do you?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
I do :)
Same thing that created Zeus and Thor
sgthunter09 2 years ago
either the Vorlons or the Asguards .
rgrmllns 2 years ago
Chuck Norris made him
Rabastan 2 years ago
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The holy Quran says Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #30)
damboraa 2 years ago
what if there are other humans out there just like earth thatd be cool
cookiebrane101 2 years ago 10
Hell yeah that would be awesome.
TheGhostfacekilla86 2 years ago 2
the video was indeed pleasant to watch, beautiful sights. there is so much out there, it makes us seems like nothing.
7Royalty 2 years ago
on the contrary, I believe my God created it purely for me to look at and explore and to show me how all powerful and all knowing he is.
All this makes me feel special that He did it for me and the rest of the human race that He created.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
yeah i agree with you. what i really meant to say was that we worry about insignificant things here that are nothing, wile we have all this beautiful things out there.
7Royalty 2 years ago
How humble of you. LOL. I can hardly believe your arrogance. Yeah right, the universe was created just for you.
kubush 2 years ago
Why do you misquote me?
If you believe the bible as I do then it is humbling to accept that God created the universe for us and for Man to have dominion over the earth.
And how do you know I am wrong in what I believe?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
"God created it purely for me"
How exactly is that misquoted? Yeah, believe it or not, believing you have divine permission to have dominance over other living things and that the universe was created just for you is the epitomy of arrogance.
kubush 2 years ago
You are right - I was to wrong to say, 'for me'; it should have said, "for us" as I put in the title at the top.
Why do you misquote me this time - I said 'dominion' and not 'permission to have dominance'.
To be given dominion/authority over something is a position of responsibility not permission to dominate; it is also very humbling to be put in such a situation, so I dont have an epitomy.
It seems you have a problem believing in God as I do. Why do you rail against my beliefs so?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
should have said, "for us"
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
If we all seem to know everything.. how come we are where we are?
7Royalty 2 years ago
good question but what is your comment on the video?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
How can it be a montage of universes? Don't we only get to see one right now?
gresach 2 years ago
I think you are quite right - maybe the word I should have used was Galaxy?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
We must make 10 time capsule with the 5 elements together with human DNA and propel them in deep space. Human species will survive forever somewhere somehow...
Copain1105 2 years ago
@Copain1105 Five elements being carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, silicon, magnesium, calcium, sulphur, phosphorus... Oh dear I appear to have run out of space! You plan has a low chance of success as you clearly do not understand chemistry, biology or physics, not to mention mathematics, astronomy, and all those other things you don't understand. Ah well.
Baryon321 10 months ago
You define theory using the word 'fact' - a contadiction in terms designed to make Theory sound like truth?
You through in the word 'mutation' without defining it and talk about transient manifestations of changing gene pools - without defining them. ALL mutations result in something that has the same as before or less - I think there is one of your Scientific Laws that talks about decay - why assume that your mutations will come up with something as complex as dna?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
"You define theory using the word 'fact' - a contadiction in terms designed to make Theory sound like truth?"
You clearly fail to understand what theory means in the scientific community. Theory is a model surrounding a natural phenomenon. Theory and fact are not mutually exclusive, on the contrary, scientific theories are based on facts and collected data.
Actually in evolution beneficial mutations help the species go forward creating new data. Harmful ones are weeded out by natural selection.
nake89 2 years ago
I have not disputed that theory is based on facts but it also is based on assumptions - you missed my point completely.
With mutation - an eye cannot mutate from a leg gene is my point. Beneficial and Harmful legs will be weeded out or go forward, but it is just a leg, good or bad - again you missed my point. try applying laws of Thermodynamics to make something that never existed
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
"With mutation - an eye cannot mutate from a leg gene is my point."
That is not all how it works. Gradual developed and mutation has caused significant changes after many generations. For example the eye, first there were light sensitive cells, then cup-eye, pinhole eye and so forth. You clearly do not understand this.
Saying that eyes cannot mutate from leg genes is just utterly redundant.
nake89 2 years ago
You make my point for me when you say, "First there were light sensitive cells" I thought first there was a big bang? or a cordial soup? or a single cell? What was there before the first light sensitive cell? Whatever it was, it was not an eye or anything remotely like it.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
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As we generally know Dad only CREATED the Angels & Mankind. The Angels came out with His pure Substances as we lit Fire, Light followed; Mankind with Angelic Substances & His Substances as Bodies & Souls narrated in Genesis. The Angels MADE the Universe. Dad's ONES have Eternal Values. The Angelic ONES have Temporary Values. Ex Nihilo, Nihil. Those were in Their Concepts before Time. The First ONE has Eternal Values. The LAST One has Temporary Values. We can easily know Their Characteristics.
YBPhotoeditor06 2 years ago
On the 7th day, Man created God.
bren13240 2 years ago
Beautiful. The only flaw is that we are a fallen people. Everything God created is unmeasurable and beautiful as this video presentation tries to portray.
Beautiful video Sir.
R, May
Renoir911 2 years ago
Please, could you tell me what's the name of the song?
micciuto 2 years ago
I created the music myself and it is as yet not named
John
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
If God designed all of this, why are there so many flaws? Isn't he supposed to be omnipotent?
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago 2
It is quite simple and also quite profound. If God did not allow flaws (as you put it) then you would not exist, so in His wisdom he allowed Man to do his own thing, simply because He preferred having you around with your flaws rather than without.
But your questions does raise a rather interesting point about flaws. Its like a weed is a plant in the wrong place.
I hope you enjoyed watching what has been created even with their flaws.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
I would like to know how I am a result of a flaw in the system. It would be nice to know why there needs to be a flaw in order for everything to work out.
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago
I dont understand your points.
I did not saw you were the result of a flaw - the point is that you are flawed - all humans are flawed.
Well you ask why there need to be flaws - I dont like that word flaw - its your word and is not a Christian word. Sinful is a Christian word and that means not doing what God wants. You choose not to do what God wants and that is called your free will. If you wish to give that up and always do what God wants then how would you like that?.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
@PapaJoFilms The Argument From Flaws is called Theodicy, and by most standard of rationale it fails miserably to prove anything other than the relative irrationality of it's proponents.
Baryon321 10 months ago
@Baryon321 An argument from flaws is Theodicy - it does talk about what I had in mind. It is one of many theories and is not what I was talking about.
Passion2Create 10 months ago
Free will... God created us with free will. He did not want an army of mindless robots loving him..He wanted creatures that would love Him with their free will. Because we have free will, often times we make the wrong choices..that is our fault not the Lord.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
How is it considered free will when you are doomed to eternal torture if you choose the other option? It seems very unfair for a 'loving' being.
By flaws, I was not only referring to the flaws of mankind, but the flaws of how the universe is and set up. If the universe was set up by an omnipotent being with us in mind, why will Earth be engulfed by the sun in 7.6bn yrs, why is the only planet we can live on so hostile, etc.
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago
So, by your reasoning there should be no punishment at all for wrong doings..So let's not punish bank robbers, serial killers, thieves, etc. So the earth will be engulfed by the sun? So what? It's the normal passage of life and death. I really doubt any humans will be around then, the end days are very near. The planet we live on is perfect. It is not hostile...It's US who makes things hostile. We make it hostile because we have free will.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
You're not understanding me.
Of course some people should be punished, but not until the end of time, people can actually learn lessons you know. No person should have to go through eternal burning, that is just disgustingly wrong. When the earth is engulfed, it would be the end to (possibly) all life in the universe, would a god really do that? Also, do you rarely go outside or something? Our planet isn't perfect at all, hurricanes, volcanoes, useless land, ice ages... just to name a few.
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago
What happens when something is burned up? It turns to ash and ceases to exist. The same happens when the unsaved are judged and cast into hell. They burn in fire and their names are wiped from the book of life, like they never existed.
The only beings that will suffer eternal torment is satan and his follwers ie: the angels that were cast out with him.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
Hurricanes, volcanoes etc, all have their place in balancing earth. Volcanoes give birth to new land, hurricanes keep things in check, think of it as a giant vacuum cleaner. As far as ice ages go, well that's just part of the natural history of the earth. If it had not been for the ice age, there would have been no land bridge to north america from russia, there would not have been the mass migration of people to the new world.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
It all has happened because of God and His finger on our world. He created perfection, it is us who perverts and wrecks it.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
You also have to understand, that when the Bible mentions Hades, it was comparing it to the wasteland outside of the walled cities, where there was constant burning of everyone's garbage. To be cast out of a city and left to fend for yourself was an unspeakable horror to have to suffer through. And usually meant death.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
No water, no food, no safety...and wild animals roaming looking for flesh to eat. Keep in mind the area this was set in, it is still pretty much a desolate wasteland.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
So when non-believers, other religions and criminals die, they die twice, once due to whatever caused it on earth and another by burning a spirit with fire?
Do you honestly not see the hazards of this world? Diseases kill many people, along with hurricanes(remember Katrina? Was that just a 'cleaning'?). A proper, loving god that had the power to help the world wouldn't sacrifice his own sacred creation just to clean.
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago
You are blaming man for the flaws of the universe and earth; it is illogical the believe that. When a species has only been around for the tiniest fraction of the universe's history, it is ridiculous to assume that we are the most important beings in the universe who can live forever and can change anything, when we are just beautiful examples of emergence, when order is made from disorder. It is a natural process that may seem designed because of how our mind works, but it isn't supernatural.
TheInsaneFanboy 2 years ago
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in union with the Messiah Jesus our Lord.
EbolaV1rus 2 years ago
7.6bn years? mmmmmm...... or was it 4.6543bn yrs? get a life!!! That is just someone calculation partially based on assumptions. Who knows what else is going to happen in that time. Maybe another big bang?
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
"That is just someone calculation partially based on assumptions."
Actually it's based on mathematical equations, you know, science.
It is the most accurate time we have been able to predict. Of course after time goes by it will get even more accurate. And btw, the universe is about 13 billion years old and the earth is about 4.55 billions years old. Also, if you have doubts about the big bang as a theory, please read about red shift. Thanks.
nake89 2 years ago
I am glad you agree they are predictions, I wish you just stated them as beliefs and not facts.
Predicts are always based on assumptions, eg nothing that I have not thought of will happen, that during the past conditions remained the same as I think they are and were. I have no doubt Big Bang is a theory - lets keep that way and don' t portray it as a fact.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
Predictions are not just guesses or random numbers thrown around. They are based on scientific calculations. And again, facts and theories are not mutually exclusive. But like I said, please read about red shift if you are actually interested.
nake89 2 years ago
typical argument - you make an argument against and argument I never made and you ignore my point. Since when are assumptions guesses? My point is simply that there are assumptions as well as facts and theories. There has to be because there is so much unknown. That is why science can continually evolving its understanding.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
Very beautiful, PapaJo, you remind me of my brother-in-law that lives in Georgia,
you're not him are you??lol-Marlene
nodlon20 2 years ago
'fraid not - never been to USA but can I take it that the resemblance is a compliment.
John
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
You were doing so well and then you said, "In all probability..." Having studied statistics, I fail to understand that phrase - perhaps you can explain it - it appears to be no argument at all.
Oh and how do you investigate the fact that everything that exists because if you can do that then you in fact might be the missing link or God.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
The universe does not necessitate a creator.
Adding a deity into the picture to explain gaps is no argument at all.
When something is not known it should be investigated instead of saying "god did it".
God of the gaps is very weak...
In all probability there are no deities.
nake89 2 years ago
How weak is, "It happened by itself"?
In all probability it so outstandingly amazing that only God can explain it.
PapaJoFilms 2 years ago
That is a god of the gaps argument. The fact that we cannot accurately know how this happened does NOT mean that a deity did it. There is no evidence that suggests it. Most natural processes do indeed happen by themselves. There is no deity prodding and poking to make it work.
nake89 2 years ago
What exactly does the term "god of the gaps" mean?
wallyjude3 2 years ago
God of the gaps is when most phenomena are explained by natural means instead of magical and divine ones. Which leads Gods role to be meaningless in those cases i.e. god is not needed.
For example before it was taught that God was the creator of lighting. Now we have scientific explanations for this. God is "retreating" to his gaps (so to speak), which are few.
For a more detailed answer please read the Wikipedia entry. Thanks.
nake89 2 years ago
Ahh yes, Wikipedia. Now there is a really reliable source of info. How do you explain that God is not the creator of lightning? If God is the source of all things, then he is the source of the activities of nature which produce lightning. Ergo, God created lightning. No gap there. Next!
wallyjude3 2 years ago
"If God is the source of all things, then he is the source of the activities of nature which produce lightning."
Evidence for this?
"Ergo, God created lightning. No gap there. Next! "
:D:D:DD:D Nice one. I sincerely hope you were joking. Well, even if you weren't I cant take this seriously :D
Actually wikipedia is getting to be a very good source for reliable information. It is getting cited more and more.
nake89 2 years ago
The argument is sound deductive logic, premise and conclusion. If God exists and is the source of all things (including natural phenomena), then he is, logically, the creator of lightning. What is your evidence against this? Applying personal prejudices, such as the nonexistence of God, is not sound science. Therefore, you must empirically prove that God does not exist to prove my conclusion wrong. Whether you want to take it seriously or not is irrelevant. The logic is sound.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
"If God exists and is the source of all things (including natural phenomena), then he is, logically, the creator of lightning."
If He is the creator of all things natural, then you cannot believe in gravity. Intelligent falling is the thing that keeps theists stuck to the face of the planet, or thehand of God. You cannot pick and choose what science works and which ones don't.
630633 2 years ago
"If He is the creator of all things natural, then you cannot believe in gravity." What are you talking about? This comment makes absolutely no sense at all. Sorry.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
Do you believe that He is the creator of all things natural as you say? If so, it suggests that you do not believe in gravity,and that it is His hand that keeps us from floating around in space. Or is gravity not natural, and therefore not subject to theistic reasoning? I hope that clears it up for you.
630633 2 years ago
I still do not have a clue what you are trying to say. Yes, I believe God is the creator of all things. How does that suggest I don't believe in gravity? I simply have no idea what you're trying to get at by saying, "Or is gravity not natural, and therefore not subject to theistic reasoning."
wallyjude3 2 years ago
If you believe in God being the creator of ALL things, then it follows that you believe that there is a divine hand that acts on us in a way that keeps us from floating around in space. A kind of 'Intelligent Falling' if you will. This fits in better with your theistic belief that God is the creator of everything, better than the scientific explanation of gravity that has no room for God whatsoever. I can't make it any clearer than that.
630633 2 years ago
I really wonder about your ability to reason logically. In what way does the existence of, or the scientific explanation of gravity leave no room for God? If God is the source of all we see, which would include natural phenomena such as gravity, how is gravity in conflict with God. I hope you're not trying to put forth an argument that gravity disproves the existence of God.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
"Scientific explanations...," Why do so many commit the error of believing that God and science are antithetical to each other? To arrive at a scientific explanation of a phenomenon is not proof that God was not involved. Again, logically, if God is the source of all things, then he is the source of all phenomena which we study scientifically. Science is simply understanding God's creation, it is not the antithesis of that creation. God does not retreat from science, he authored it.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
"God does not retreat from science, he authored it. "
Oh please, not again.
Evidence for this?
"Therefore, you must empirically prove that God does not exist"
You are a retard. Proving a negative is a logical fallacy.
YOU have the burden of proof. YOU are the one asserting a deity. Get it? Got it? Good.
In all your text you have not given any evidence for your blatant and pathetic assertion of a deity. So please. Stop making a fool of yourself and quit while your ahead.
nake89 2 years ago
Typical evolutionist responses. You can talk a game, but you can't play it. In all your text you have not given any evidence for your blatant and pathetic denial of a deity. It's a Red Herring argument which tries to always put the onus on the other party. You like to think you are logical but when the action starts, you run. Name calling, very mature & so effective. When you think you have something to offer or feel you can provide any kind of proof for your claims, try again. Still no gaps.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
"Proving a negative is a logical fallacy." Nonsense. All kinds of things can be proven negatively. If someone claimed there were 2 moons orbiting the Earth, I could prove the negative, ie, there are not 2 moons orbiting the Earth. In the process of proving there is only 1 moon I would prove there are NOT 2. I think you need some work on your critical thinking. You like appealing to logic, but I don't think you really understand it.
wallyjude3 2 years ago
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630633 2 years ago
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Too bad the Bible thought the earth was flat.
And that the sun revolved around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes, donkeys, and bushes talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
Other than a few minor details like that,
it's a really scientific book!
Hahahaha!!!!!
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Did god create himself before the heavens and earths?
nopnip 2 years ago