Citizen Kane

[AliaSparrow]

A daily breakfast. When I was 13 years old watching that scene, something about the changes struck me? Where's that smiling husband? What happened?

[Cleon29Warrior]

Emily: Really, Charles, people will think...

Charlie: What I tell them to think!!!

He's THE MAN!!!

[wkbfutewc]

Welles wholly wrote this scene the rest (we're told) was written by Herman J. Mankiewicz (when he was sober), but the controversy continues to this day. The screenplay was the only bit of this film that won an Oscar. Mankiewicz had worked for the Chicago Tribune so he certainly had an insight into the workings of a newspaper. Mankiewicz also wrote the Wizard of Oz.

Mankiewicz became, through Marion Davies a big friend of William Randolph Hearst hence the only Oscar this movie ever received.

[decolda]

1:43 i know she says Not You, but it sounds like F*ck You, and what does he say when she cuts him with Charles at 1:37

[rainybutsunnyday]

I am looking at the editing of the film and have chosen this clip to consider the contribution of editing to temporal order, any ideas on the subject? =D

[beardedartisan]

1:40 "He happens to be the President, Charles. F**k you."

... Okay, I know that's not really the line, but I SO wish it was.

[Alecgesmith]

2:09 best line ever!

[moviehypno23]

This scene shows the crumbling of a marriage better than any full-length movie, further proof that Orson Welles is one of the true film geniuses.

[oldbluescott]

The gradually growing table, and the increasingly obstructive centerpieces, obviously make for a good metaphor, but in the context of the story they seem a little silly. Can you imagine Mrs. Kane, or whoever's in charge of decorating the breakfast nook, saying, "No, we need a bigger table. This one doesn't correctly reflect the state of Kane's marriage."

[BBDBSK]

PLEASE, I NEED HELP:

what is the cinematography technique used here?

I really need the answer as quickly as possible!!!

thanks.

[Vroxitsa]

@BBDBSK Probably abit late but its called elliptical editing

[superdavid002]

I sing about Citizen Kane, Welles, and others in The Celebrity Song.

[Beale64]

Charles Forster Kane: What time is it?

Emily: Oh, I don't know. It's late.

Charles Foster Kane: It's early.

Was that a "wink-wink" moment--or, to put it simply, was Kane suggesting they have sex?

[Narudude360]

Watching this in TEXTp. Hillarious.

[jerste]

This film gives me the chills.

[SithLordGryffindor]

Hm, impressive. Like the fuse.

[TheRetkowski]

what is the actual name of this scene?

[Drac39]

I'd love to see this on Blu-Ray

[cha5]

@Drac39 I think it's going to be released on Blu-Ray in a few months.

[The656]

i like how they made all the clips shorter

[billthestinker]

what did mr. bernstein send to the nursey?

[lave4321]

The table growing bigger and bigger between the two is a perfect example of visual exposition for their relationship. As Tecun85 said, definitely real filmmaking.

[TimofAwsome]

"But charles people will think_

What I tell to to think!" lol my favourite line from the whole movie. Also, when Emily says "I'd prefer a rival of flesh and blood" is that a Romeo and Juliet reference?

[elligallegos]

i love this scene, is perfect ! ..it's a real film making

[Tecun85]

A marvelous scene, simply incredible

Years of disagreement and bickering between Kane and his first wife are fused into one delicately arranged scene

This is real film making

[IZEASGT]

Problem with watching this on YouTube is that it's too hard to see the names of the papers at 2:15 and 2:18.

You know, the last time I saw cinematography this impressive was also in a portrait of a marriage, but a happy one -- Carl and Ellie in "Up."

[AndrewSpriter]

I was thinking almost the exact same thing about your first statement.

[irish89055]

"well, hoorayyy for the Bulldog...."

[Wartler]

I always wondered: what kind of atrocity Mr. Bernstein did that they mentioned?

[claudegg]

I think that it is a toy that she did not approve of. Then she really did not like the fact that he not only does not care about the gift but that Mr. Bernstein is to come and pay his kids a visit. Does that make sense?

[dusel3]

@claudegg where is Mr. Berstein??? I have written a classtest about that scene

[catsiscats]

@claudegg yes. @Wartier, Mr. Bernstein is Jewish. That is why she doesn't want him around. She is a WASP bitch.

[Orsley]

The "atrocity" isn't specified, but one can surmise it's some toy she finds in poor taste. Her comment probably is only minimally about the toy, and suggests that Emily is anti-semitic and doesn't like Bernstein himself, whom she calls "Your Mr. Bernstein" and wants kept out of the nursery. Insulting Kane's friends (and a friend he must be if he might visit the nursery) is one way Emily shows her contempt for Kane himself; thus the comment is a sign of the miserable state of their marriage.

[Wartler]

A toy does seem most probable. However, I never thought she disliked Mr. Bernstein from anti-semitism. I always assumed she disliked him because he was a friend from work, and a symbol of the newspaper she detests so much.

[Alecgesmith]

@Wartler apparently it was a jewish star of david high-lighting anti-semitism of america in the 1940's

[RocketCarProductions]

what president is he referring to in the reference to the oil schandel?

[ILoveMisty1985]

A fictional president, but I believe it's a reference to Warren G. Harding and the Teapot Dome scandal.

[hokey1222]

in just 2 minutes, welles was able to capture what other directors attempt to achieve in 2 hours. amazing :)

[moviehypno23]

@hokey1222 I've been saying that to so many people! It's like I watched this scene once and understood a crumbling marriage better than if I watched something like Revolutionary Road (which I've yet to see).

[ferociousfrankie]

Notice the pheasants in the top of the frames in the beginning and ending. Definitely a big hello to Renoir!

[cha5]

The perfect cinematic example of a marriage slowly but surely going down the crapper.

[wickedfeylady]

Oh my god, is he goregous at 1:04 or what?

[lilnoel09]

Definately! ;]

[universalwoman]

This is the only scene in the whole movie I like the rest was very boring , the lighting, deep focus and camera techniques are innovative but the story and characters are underdeveloped , the movie is just about some rich person dying alone.

[ronguell]

The only other movie that enthralled me like CK is Slueth. I knew Olivier but not Michael Kane so I was fooled all the way to the secret's unmasking. It was great. Both movies were discovered late at night, quiet, no distractions, and away I went. The great movies pull you into their interior and thats the best seat in the house. Can I get an Amen?

[ronguell]

You can watch a movie from it's exterior and you can experience it from it's interior. From the exterior the Mercury Theatre actors are certainly not oscar winners, but from it's interior as you find yourself piecing the puzzle together that fact disolves away. The final piece of the puzzle is the greatest "secret revealed" in film. It's absolutely impossible to figure it out, but when it's revealed the whole puzzle comes together and you get it. And to think Orson was age 24 when he did this.

[ronguell]

CK has lack of substance? Let me get this straight, you must have ment submarines or something right?

[drovdrov]

Boring..

Boring, boring, boring.

Now don't think I'm stating this as some thrill-seeker without taste, I mean boring, tacky and its substance or lack thereof is not up to the caliber its touted as, below par acting & blatant stereotype cartoon characters. The filming was very innovative and anyone who's anyone in film can only learn from it, and that's all I grant it. The quirkiness of J. Tati outweighs the grand gestures Citizen Kane makes.

[duanetje]

this scene is actually quite good because it shows time evolution in an innovative way. Their clothing styles become more "closed" the mood switches , the table grows longer. It reflects the evolution of their marriage.

[wickedfeylady]

This is a mvoie about loss of innocence, loss of ideals, loss of principle, what one person can mean to many people...these are all very real things that do not change over time. The different perspectives of the narrators are why the characters are exaggerated. I once thought this film was boring and I watched it again. Now I know better. How may times have YOU seen it?

[drovdrov]

What the film is about does not exonerate the below par acting, stereotype cartoon characters & tackiness. I do not say this in contempt, but rather as an opinion. I love that others love it, because it shows our different perspectives, and thats good. Now imagine this film with high caliber acting and a bit more continuity.

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[p0rkytso]

never seen this movie, but it does look quite interesting. just watching how life can change people, and how people and relationships can change over time. for my curiosity, what was his answer "were you in love with her" in the end of this clip, what was his answer? the question was asked when he was older, as time progressed they seemed more distant towards each other @ the table no more love / commpliments to his "beautiful" wife? just by watching this short clip, i'll def. have a watch of it

[weikko79]

You've never seen "Citizen Kane"? Watch it at once!

[Zzyxzaa]

The interviewer asked "was HE ever in love with her?". The entire film takes place after Kane's death. Don't worry, this isn't giving away much. It happens in the first minute.

But anyhow, watch this film at once!!!

[claudegg]

What does everyone think about where I chose to start and stop the film.

Claude

[theLHexperiment]

I think it's a perfect choice to start and stop.

I'm actually writing a term paper for my film class on this scene. Thank you very much!

[briand787b]

@claudegg It is a a great scene because of the way that welles ingeniously shows the collapse of a marriage in the span of two and a half minutes while retaining the emotion of the breakup and the temporal continuation of welles' general downfall. I'm doing a paper on this scene right now. what do you think?

[rawritscheezey]

@claudegg I like how you did it, but maybe you should've had the final conversation go on for one or two more lines. Other than that, perfect.

[Cercopithecus47]

"I absolutely adore you". Has anyone portrayed 2 people (newly) in love better than Welles right here? And that lovely Bernard Herrmann waltz! The deterioration of their marriage is also (naturally) very well pictured. This is my favourite scene from the movie alongside "Susan's room".

[Anuson1]

This is also my favourite scene

-chris, Berlin, Germany-

[claudegg]

Thank you for saying so

[claudegg]

It is a great scene. I loved this film. Thank you for commenting.

[FetaCheese222]

@Cercopithecus47 I think the conversation between the two is shows Welles using the movie sarcasticly. These people aren't really in love, they don't even care about what the other one is saying.

[jadasic]

Genius, Welles is. . .the montage is so unnoticeable if you dont know what to look for.

[claudegg]

What do you think about where I started and ended the clip.

[HeadlessEye]

What was the horible atrocity that Mr. Bernstein sent?

[whatuswattingat]

You never find out what it was. A bigger mystery than "Rosebud!"

[weikko79]

It's probably explained in the original Mankiewicz script.

[TheTendonOfPhil]

A menorah.

[wickedfeylady]

You really think so? Could be.

[mightyduckk]

Most incredible movie ever.

The way the two spread apart is incredible.

The changes that occur in such a short montage are astounding.

Perfect.

[Anuson1]

What a great scene...

- One of the greatest montage/sequences, ever -

[theSuperMetroid]

Really Charles, people will think....

What I tell them to think!

lol, love this movie.

[four1teen4]

1:20 Montage Strikes Me As Being The Only Happy Moment For Kane, I Find It Funny That The Comment Made Was A Statement Of Vanity... Yet If You Watched It Without That Line It Looks Like His Most Favorite Moment, In Love.... Ironic Just How Misleading That Sequence Was In This Montage... Brilliant

[Orsley]

Please stop capitalizing every word. There is no rule or convention of English language usage that makes this practice useful or meaningful, and it actually interferes with the expression of your interesting thoughts. Just a suggestion.

[fromthesidelines]

A brilliant montage on how Charles & Emily Kane's marriage deteriorated- just by seeing them at the breakfast table over an interval of several years. Note that, by the end, she's reading the "Chronicle", while he's reading his own "Inquirer".

[ReigningNINYA]

Exactly! A whole lot of marriages are like this.

[SimonPeter168]

wow i never noticed she was reading the competing newspaper. thanks for pointing that out.

[CrazyChrissy04]

he is brilliant in this movie!!

[msalatino]

For those who are trivia whizzes, that's Ruth Warrick, a.k.a., Phoebe Tyler-Wallingford on All My Children.

[nicoley386]

i love bernard herrmann's score!

well done

[ReigningNINYA]

I LOVE THIS SCENE!

[elilly82]

the best montage-sequence ever!! Orson Welles è fantastico!!