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  • This guy knows nothing about poker

  • Well I don't like Obama and I love poker and this guy knows nothing about poker or politics so it would seem. I'd much rather Obama play tight poker with America than bluff and get us all killed. And tight players usually are better than maniac players. Just saying.

  • your dumb shit !

  • where r these poker games?? lol

  • Normally I disagree with TheYoungTerrorists but this time I don't think they did such a bad job. This goes to show the liberals are willing to take a shot at the socialists.

  • Obama a great president, much better than mccain which is another bush!!!

  • @TakashiNippon However all presidents are shit.

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  • You are an idiot & know nothing about poker you stupid shit

  • poker often defines a person characteristics though not all the time!!

  • I despise this muslim apologist!

  • The qualifications for president sure have been slipping. Shit, I'm decent at poker I think I'll run...

  • TYT knows shit about poker. Bad poker knowledge worse analogy.

  • We definitely need a primary against Obama, because he's beyond redemption. I wonder how he's going to go down in the history books... I mean, you'd think being after G W Bush he'd get a good wrap, but I'm not so sure anymore...

  • Obama's a Pussy. Just look at him bowling or throwing a first pitch.

  • Well, at least Obama isn't as bad at gambling losses like Charles Barkley is.

  • Poker analogies are so spot on. It's scary how that game mimics our social personalities.

  • I like Cenks percentages of an issue :) I hope he does this more.

    :P

  • Cenk is sadly 1000% right..Obama is very waek indeed !!

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  • Who are any of you?! That man is the President. He got off his ass and ran and we voted and he was elected. Now all of a sudden EVERYBODY knows how to run the country! Everybody on Fox on MSNBC CNN oh yeah, and you dumbasses on youtube with me.............STFU and let my President lead.

  • Barack Obama: The First President to ever fold with pocket-Aces pre-flop. 

  • Zionist Jews are real puppet masters.

    Obama's & all of politician's (Dems & Repubs) "Balls" are in their hands.

    When ever thing go in other direction than they wish, they squish the "Balls".

  • Actually, Obama is fantastic at bluffing. Remember his campaign?

  • @Saaduk92

    He got me on that one !!!

    I am a working a guy and I spend around $500 out of my pocket for his "Charm".

    Damn I was fool.

  • @Saaduk92 Ouch. Good one.

  • @Saaduk92 youmad bro

  • Cenk is still being too soft on Obama. Lets face reality, NOBODY IS THAT WEAK.

  • man i would clear house if i played poker with obama. i fucking hate tight players it takes about 40 thousand years to finally clear them out the table

  • Fuck his poker skills, I want to know how many people got fucked by him as their lawyer.

  • so... if 30% is he's republican and 60% is he's a pussy, what's the other 10% of this so-called "democratic" republican president.

  • Our founding fathers -- including Jefferson, Adams, & Franklin -- cautioned that a great danger to our country would be the concentration of wealth into the hands of a few.

    Today the top 1% has 40% of the wealth.

    The top 10% has 75% of the wealth.

    And the bottom 40% has 1% of the wealth.

    This is not healthy.

    The inc. tax & inheritance tax proposals will only make the situation worse.

  • @DillonDee1 That is IMPOSSIBLE.

    if its true then D: 

  • @TouchofSyu -- what's not true?

  • @DillonDee1 no actually the founding fathers warned against the power of the central government. its stronger now than it ever has been

  • @texasalltheway1 -

    "Taxes should be proportioned to what may be annually spared by the individual." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1784

    "Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785.

    Thomas Jefferson feared the country would end up w/ a great inequity of wealth like we have today

  • you need an angro loose/aggressive president that thrives in battle. Sad thing is he gets more credit for his "bluffs" silly yanks need to wise the fuck up

  • whats obama about... oh id say about 5-6 feet tall

  • I have to disagree w/ Cenk... This is a terrible analogy... Tight is the smart way to play poker... anyone who plays will tell you the same... would we rather a president who pays garbage hands and wastes money into it?

  • We need a strong Libertarian president

  • Obama's Poker Strategy:

    FOLD, FOLD, and FOLD again!

    (with a pair of aces in hand)

  • The rich and connected have two political parties on their side.

    The rest of us have none.

  • This bill would majorly rape the American Public.

    Better to just to do nothing.

  • @DillonDee1 YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING TO MUCH CENK.. we will get 750B in this deal rich get 120B. thing is Obama has a 3 5 9 k q cenk is dumb cenk is an idiot he is an idiot cenk wants all the tax cuts over so hes mad.. what he doesnt realize is that there is unemployed will get hurt.. the average american will get fucked if this doesnt pass the (R) will have bigger #'s in jan. Cenk is an idiot.. i have lost my respect in cenk for not telling 100% of the story

  • When he was Senator, Obama ALWAYS voted PRESENT in US Senate, during 2008 election Obama received MILLIONS from Goldman Sachs and received more money from Corporations than any other Democrat president in history. If voters in 2008 stopped listening to his empty words and actually saw what his actions were, they would have been able to see what kind of backstabbing neocon corporate-owned president he would become.

    Obama, Bush & McCain ARE THE SAME...

    watch?v=u5WiE6MnmCM , watch?v=OZoxgZLX8JU

  • TELL THE TRUTH.

    Cenk connect the dots, WAKE UP, STOP spewing this myth that democrats are stupid & weak, DEMOCRATS ARE RICH WITH CORPORATE & LOBBYIST CASH JUST LIKE THEIR TWIN GOP. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEMS AND GOP, THEY ARE PAID BY THE SAME CEO's & Banks. Dems & GOP exist to make the world think that they are different parties, but they are just fake wrestling actors, they only sound different on camera, but behind the camera they are owned by the Rich. No Democracy in USA.

  • The Day Cenk realizes that DEMGOP is ONE Party (Corporate-Owned Neocon/Zionist Fascist Party of War and the Super Wealthy), and he starts supporting Ralph Nader, that is the day I will finally know that Cenk is awake and serious about reality and the future of America.

  • The dealer is dealing sand, an arranged set of outcomes to benefit the dragon and the swine. The final table of the WSOP was crafted with the number of the hand. Final board 44965. The payouts were also pagan crafted. No reason delaying the conclusion of an illusion a few months. Swindlers must swindle though.

  • 'According to recovery.gov, the President's website designed to track the stimulus plan, the $800 Billion plus porkulous bill passed in February 2009 is responsible for 3,348,813 jobs.

    According to a new analysis conducted by the San Fransisco office of the Federal Reserve, the president's projection is off by only 3,348,813 jobs.

    That's correct The American Recovery and Reinvestment

  • barry's out in 2012. a nice guy and a nice dad, though, but as the leader of a political entity that is at least supposed to be the last hope for an everyday working american against corporate fascism, redistribution of income towards the rich and powerful, and the systematic dismantling of social safety nets and any semblance that we have of being a people, a nation and a community, he is just not cut out for it.

  • Obama is a Neocon/Zionist/ Republican/Corporate Agent (Further to the Right than Bush is) pretending to be a Democrat or a Left-wing. Obama is on the same level as his cousin Cheney

    and all the others, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

    Obama is not weak or stupid, he is a criminal, he is a corporate agent placed in the whitehouse, he is a lobbyist for the richest of the rich and for all the war corporations, banks, neocons, zionists, lobbyists, Obama only represents the greed of the richest of the rich.

  • @halcyon0830 They compromise because Americans lean right

  • @BorgKing001

    Is America only made up of Rich CEO's, than why does everything Obama does only benefit the Richest of the Rich.

  • This is not going to end well. The guy will never bluff which is like half of the way that you win

  • The best strategy to have is Tight and Aggressive

    He's got the tight part down, but not the aggressive part.....But here's where we differ in opinion Cenk: you think it's because he's mentally weak. I say it's deliberate because he's not working for the American people, and never was.

  • As a student, he did the same.

  • I love the new studio

  • obama doesnt want to be assasinated, so he just plays along and hopes not piss the wrong rich person off that will have him "takin care of".....

  • I don't know how he plays poker, but he plays Jeopardy like Wolf Blitzer.

  • Obama doesnt even have a Poker Face.

  • Run Cenk ! 2012 !

  • one term president

  • I love how all you TYT fans who put Obama into office actually believed he would "change" anything. Did you not look and see where he was getting his money? After he was elected did you not see the corruption in his cabinet? That should have caused his approval rating to hit the teens.

    You all are mad now, but I am sure you will vote for him again, because whoever he is going against will be sooo much worse.

    When will you realize that BOTH parties are sell-outs, and NEITHER deserves your vote

  • @poopstreek It is not like I had choice. The other side was made of total lunatics.

  • @poopstreek look im angry too but who the hell else do we vote for? independents? why, so they can sell out like everyone else?! come on, until that fundamental flaw gets fixed in our government we'll still be fucked....

  • @AuraxyrenSol I vote my hopes, not my fears. If we continue to vote between the lesser of two evils, then all we end up with is EVIL.

    A vote for Obama is a vote for; debt, wars, illegally spying on citizens, and CORPORATISM aka FASCISM.

    ALL ELSE IS TRIVIAL.

    Wake up to the facts, Obama works for the same Wall St. CRIMINALS that Bush did.

  • @poopstreek btw i actually didnt vote just because i knew for a fact that this is what would happen

  • I follow your logic Cenk, but I don't buy it that Obama is weak, and not ever a fighter, and not because I'm an Obama tragic, but because it's logical. He fought Hillary Clinton pretty effectively to get the nomination. He must've fought and fought all the way through to get where he is. We all know about his life, hardly a story of privilege. He must've fought all the way up. He has a bold side too, pretty bold nominating for pres. when he's an african american junior senator.

  • @juliact if he has ANY amount of fight he's misplacing it..... you mean to tell me he's logical when his first reaction is to cave to EVERYTHING the republicans want?! come on man, you cant possibly be that naive...

  • @AuraxyrenSol I didn't say that Obama was being logical here, I was only addressing Cenk's personality analysis. Of course he's not fighting here, it's a matter of fact that he has caved straight away. And the truth is we don't really know why, all this is conjecture. But to say that he's not a fighter, that he doesn't have it in him I think is demonstrably not true.

  • @juliact If he did have it in him he would stand up to them and make a case for his side instead of caving again and again and again....

  • Cry Moar, ObamaFags.

  • Obama's poker strategy: Fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold fold .... ad infinitum.

  • I wonder if the "Shadow Government" simply threatened Obama somehow...like, they took him to a room and showed him a video of the Kennedy assassination but from a different angle, one where you can clearly see shots coming from a different direction....and then they gave Obama a list of the things that they want done.

  • @Priest77 I don't think it's a shadow government, the corporations & rich fucks are openly running things these days. No conspiracy required, they just shove it all right in our faces and laugh lately. The richest people control the government and engineer every play to benefit themselves.

  • Everyone remember that Stain song that goes "the more you take the more I break" ? well can someone take Obama's speeches and put it with the song and then message me when it's finished. I would but I don't have a PC im using my Wii to type.....!

  • Impeach Obama Hussein

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  • This just goes to show how someone who doesn't understand poker can make huge mistakes when trying to make an opinion regarding the subtlties of the game.

    In a poker magazine, Obama's game was briefly reviewed by a pro player.

    The actor Toby Maguire is also described as a hugely tight player, yet has one of the most positively consistant player at the WSOP (World Series Of Poker).

    Obama may be a tight player, but that doesn't mean he can be bluffed every hand he doesn't have it.

  • Michelle Obama:

    Please reach up your husband's vagina, grab his ovaries, and squeeze them like a fucking vice until they become man-balls.

  • @UnderlordZ I bow down to you sir!!! HOLY SHIT!!! LMAO!!!

  • he is not goign to in win 2012

    I hope Allen greyson run for president

  • Cenk clearly doesn't know much about poker. Playing tight is a perfectly valid strategy, which is used by many of the top pros.

  • Makes sense Cenk. I love how people were saying he's playing chess and poker and all this stupid game shit lol. It always cracked me up. I think Cenk is right. And you never see Obama even try to get in with other progressive groups at all but he's happy to with the conservatives. I think Cenk is right and he's a weak ass. He has no clue how to deal with bullies. We need to get him out. Maybe he's really there to destroy the democratic party or something. I have no clue how to figure this out.

  • I've won a tournament with that strategy LOL. Obviously, Cenk doesn't play much.

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  • you freakin progressives put Obowma into office, I guess we need to blame all you fuckheads for the mess!!

    what made anyone believe that a community organizer (whatever the hell that is) and a constitutional law professor could manage a Country and change it for the better??lmfao

    bookworms, paper pushers belong in little locked rooms where they can do little damage to others1 LOL

  • @genie0390 Spoken like a truly mindless Fox News follower. Keep obeying your masters, they are your overlords!

  • @TheRamenAvenger

    you progressive pricks are real good at building straw men and then bashing away!! you know what?, dickhead, straw men don't vote, real people do as you dorks discovered on Nov 2

  • @genie0390 Hey, don't sell us short. We're good at AdHominem too...you sister fucking retard!

  • @djangst

    hey, I don't have to sell you short ever!!,..progressive do that very well themselves every time they open their pie holes

    you're the retards, Rahm Emanuel confirmed that as did the WH! Live with it

  • @genie0390 You're just mad because you know I'm right. :)

  • @richarddbeck George bush was a complete dumbass , hence he has "balls" to take action...your not always considered powerful if you take action, sometimes the person doesn't know what he's doing and says ah screw it let's go for it

  • Why don't the dems try bluffing him? I lost all respect for Obama, but I still want to see the Democrats prosper.

  • I admit I don't like the deal . However, our base is falling into the same trap the Republicans have gotten us into before the midterms . That trap being, point your anger towards Obama and let the Republicans ride the wave of discourse (Shaking my head ) haha . I wish the Dems would have this same anger towards the right, as they do with their own base . We may actually get some where .

  • @thevirtueallliberal WOW an actual person that sees things the right way... I'm sure that Obama isn't happy to extend the Bush tax cuts but why are more liberals in the Senate and the House and in the media making this next statement

    "How can the Republicans believe that they are helping the everyday American by holding their tax cuts hostage for the tax cuts of the rich"

    Cenk should spend next show on MSNBC complaining about the Republican hostage taking of the basic American ppl's benefits

  • I love The Daily Beast!

  • Sounds like we need a little more George Bush in Obama. ROFL. George Bus was not right but at least he had balls and could make the rest of the world think twice about messing with us!

  • Obama is a Republican Mole

  • @Doan84

    That's why he didn't have Dem leaders in the room while he sold us out. No witnesses.

  • I'd give 100% complicit and also 100% bullshit.

  • Barack Obama = Phil Hellmuth, all talk and bravado, but an easy pushover

  • Yes We Can is an anagram of Acne Yews. CONSPIRACY!!!!

  • OMG! I thought you left-wing nuts told us he is sooooooooooo smart!!? Now instead of change Obama is the establisment? And finally you say 60% probablility he just doesn't want to get into a fight. So, which is it? You contradict yourselves daily defending him and now you are mad at him for ever accepting one thing that normal people want. So, is he the god-like president? Is he the "people we have all been waiting for" president? Get it straight, because either way you have told us a lie!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy ... is he god-like...

    You watch too much Beck & FNC. We progressives do not think that. We only hoped he would deliver good policies.

  • @lewislwood ..... Gee, another liberal responding with the Fox news reply! LOL Priceless! A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Fox News is not a god, get a brain, once that is complete I MIGHT be willing to talk to you.

  • @Xerxes4242 .... LOL, I love how you educate a liberal and their knee-jerk response is Fox news no matter what the subject is! Let me know when that is the actual topic! LOL

  • @aSingleDallasGuy sir... what the fuck. we are not republican sheep like you, we do NOT let our presidents and leader be stupid godlike figures like Reagan or Bush, we support people who do what America needs, once they do sometihng wrong we let them know so they will change, or we get a new official. he's nothing right now, he's being a right-wing pussy like bush, IF he balls up we'll appreciate him, til then shut up and get off the fox news nadwagon

  • @aSingleDallasGuy sir... what the fuck. we are not republican sheep like you, we do NOT let our presidents and leader be stupid godlike figures like Reagan or Bush, we support people who do what America needs, once they do sometihng wrong we let them know so they will change, or we get a new official. he's nothing right now, he's being a right-wing pussy like bush, IF he balls up we'll appreciate him, til then shut up and get off the fox news bandwagon

  • @Nathanimal53 .... You hate America, of course you arn't a republican! You support the people? Did you not get the last election a few weeks ago? the people have spoken, guess what? You nutty views lost in a landslide. Just because you have nutty views does not mean they are in the majority. So you 20% of left wing kooks whine all you want, you are still just 20%. You lose!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Pay attention to reality. Liberals have been angry about Obama for a very long time. Either pay attention to politics and learn what liberal and conservative means or shut the hell up.

    Why would we support a president who is just going to do the same bullshit that Bush did?

  • @Vortex1988 ..... Oh no worries, I completely understand why liberals are mad. This lunitic president is just not liberal enough. He should actually be a socialist for morons like you to like him. He is close, but just not 100% to your far-left views. You know, the 20% of this country. So, when he agrees with the normal 80% of us, freaks like you go spastic! It's fun to watch though. LOL

  • @aSingleDallasGuy so predictable, people like you always believe they are the voice of the people, :D

  • @wargarurumon ... I say again.... and I'll type s-l-o-w-e-r for liberals like you to get it. There was an election just a few weeks ago and the fiscal conservative views won in an historic landslide. The VAST majority of people do not want any tax hikes on anyone. They understand tax hikes for anyone will hurt the entire country's economy. Let me know if you still don't get it and I will upload a picture for you next time.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy historic landslide?haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa­aaaaaaaaaaaa, you only got the house, not even the senate, and even then i would not call it a historic landslide, call me back when you have 70% with more than 40% of eligable voters voting

  • @wargarurumon Didn't you know that if the GOP takes half of congress by a slim margin it's a historic landslide? I heard that on Fox News so I know it's true!

  • @wargarurumon ..... For your info only some of these seats was up for election. Far from all. For those that were up for election it was a conservative landslide! The number of people elected for one party was at a all time high. The people have spoken, you must have your head buried in the sand. Even the most obvious thing you deny. HELLO? Anyone home?

  • @aSingleDallasGuy and you are still ignoring the poll that says that people don't want tax cuts for anyone, especially the top 1% percent.

    didn't you guys run on a platform against government spending, well what do you think a tax cut is?

    i'm home, are you? :)

  • @wargarurumon .... Maybe because this topic isn't about tax cuts. No one is proposing tax cuts my idiot liberal friend. This is about preventing a tax hike. No one is getting a tax cut here. This is about keeping taxes where they are and not going up on anyone. Those of us who understand the complexities of how an economy work know a tax hike on anyone right now will clearly make the economy even worse than it is already. Your moron president has already wrecked it enough.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Yeah let's bail out the rich. Whoo-hoo! *rolls eyes* Oh and psst he's YOUR president too dumbass if you're a U.S. citizen. *Facepalm* Isn't that what you idiots always said about Bush and leftists? Oh and how has all that Bush tax shit been working the last couple of years now? What 8 or so? Where are the jobs at idiot?

  • @LittlePinky82 .... So you think the TRILLIONs of dollars in bailouts that Obama has already done which did absolutely nothing was a great thing huh? As long as the govt spends tax money you are happy right? So here we have it. Liberals have gotten to see what liberalism does to the country and finally those in the middle woke up and saw that liberalism is a failure. They got to see it in action. The case should finally be closed on nutty liberal ideas. They failed! Only a moron can deny this!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy every ideology fails, thats why i gave up on them, socialism, liberalism, conservatism, fascism, the republic, democracy, benevolent dictatorship you name it, they are just words to me, what happens in the end is what gets done, not "what it is called", and it was bush who started the bailouts, and yes we hated them too even under Obama, you would know that if you would actually understand us

  • @wargarurumon ..... In this country it only has failed in the last 50 years with the liberal push. Maybe 70 years if you inclde FDR's socialist agenda. When liberalim entered into this country's politics things have gone to hell. Every socialst agenda item has been a failure; education, welfare, social security, joblessness, etc.... every one. People are far wosr off by liberal involvement then they otherwise would of been. Liberalism/socialism is a cancer on this country.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy things went to hell when reagan changed the economy from one that was based on manufacturing to one based on the financial sector causing massive unemployment as factories went bust and didn't came back, and more power to big business

  • @aSingleDallasGuy well now its just semantics, from one side its a tax cut, from the other side its a tax increase.

    the only ones who cant bear a tax increase is the lower and middle class, they have been squeezed enough by the upper class, whose money (just like the spanish kings in the 1500s) all goes outside the country, it would be more helpful to the economy to give money to the bums than to the wealthy, at least their money stays in the us

  • @wargarurumon .... No it's only semantics to a liberal. It's about not raising taxes period. That's as clear as it gets. Only a liberal can think that not raising taxes is a tax cut!  LOL. How about we cut spending by the govt? There's like a million govt employees in a gazillion bureacratic offices. I think we could cut that down and save money. How about that idea? No, to a liberal the only solution is to raise taxes as if the new money raised when ever go into cutting the deficeit! LOL

  • @wargarurumon .... No it's only semantics to a liberal. It's about not raising taxes period. That's as clear as it gets. Only a liberal can think that not raising taxes is a tax cut! LOL. How about we cut spending by the govt? There's like a million govt employees in a gazillion bureacratic offices. I think we could cut that down and save money. How about that idea? No, to a liberal the only solution is to raise taxes as if the new money raised when ever go into cutting the deficeit!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy cutting employee's is a bad idea, it would only lower the purchasing power of the us citizens, we can cut, definitly, in america's wars, its economic aid to dictators, aboloshing the electoral college,... better redistribution of funds in government departments, and useless programs that are bound to be there somewhere. your solution, for over 80 years like a broken record, is take it away from the little guy, causing more poverty and crime

  • @wargarurumon ..... Liberal thinking again. When a govt employee gets paid they receive tax money from other people. This is nothing more than distributing wealth. It doesn't and cannot create wealth. Wealth can only be created in the private sector. So there is no loss in cutting govt jobs, especially if they are not needed in the 1st place as this is just a tax burden. If you build a house for 100K and sell it for 125K you just created 25K in wealth from nothing. Govt cannot do this.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy said pay goes to back to the private sector by buying consumer products and also back to the government in the form of duty's and taxes.

    and the government can sell a house that is worth 100K for 125K, the soviet government could also create wealth if they wanted to they just didn't see the point in it, which was kind of the problem with them

    P.S. just call me a socialist will you, i don't want to see me as supporting the lib party in my country

  • @wargarurumon .... What? So yo do want the govt to confiscate private property huh? LOL The soviet union didn't sell houses, that's a capitalists method. No, they allowed you to live in a house and told you when to get out. It was handed to people as a form of their govt workforce with a small payment so they could stand in a 3 hour line everyday for govt food. I know this is turning you on! LOL

  • @aSingleDallasGuy i don't like the soviet union either, boehner, modern

    socialists said it themselves that it doesn't work, we are not interested in confiscating private property, we do believe in enforcing though regulations on corporations so that they don't screw us over and actually spread wealth to the rest of society. your extreme neo-liberal and "free-market" ideoligy will fail on you as well, when corporations leave america when they have sucked you dry just like they did with Africa

  • @wargarurumon .... I could give you many examples of communism and socialism failing throught world history. Can you name one capitalistic society that has failed? Or better yet failed by reason of capitalism? LOL You nutjob left wing kooks continue to hang onto your false utopian view of a wonderful socialist society which has never existed in history. You fail to consider human nature in your wacky beliefs. Good luck with your personal hope and change!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Rome, Ottoman Empire, Spain, Portugal, (maybe) Holland, etc... off the top of my head. They didn't oversee their markets, their empires lost money, and were at least surpassed by greater powers if not taken over.

  • @MonsieurJackAss ... I assume you are talking present day spain, portugal and holland. None of these are pure democracies. In fact by even bringing these socialist tendency countries up you proved my point. When a country sways from capitalism it is more likely to be doomed. And when you talk about the USA what is it that has gotten us waaaaay off track and into a financial hole? I'm glad you asked. Yes, liberalism. From FDR to present. It's liberalism that is wrecking this country. case closed!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy case closed, and head closed :D

  • @aSingleDallasGuy No, I wasn't. 17th century Turkey and Spain and on a lesser extent, 18th century Holland, but I might add 18th and 19th century India that was ruthlessly fought over.

    No nation is a pure democracy. We are a republic.

    It doesn't prove your point. Europe is doing better than us socially and economically.

    When a nation sways TOwards capitalism it is more likely to be doomed. Case and point? Deregulation of the market began by Clinton and continued by Bush = 2008 and 1929.....

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Kinda funny how you say it was liberalism is wrecking the country since it was liberalism that gave birth to the country. Ever since the Age of Enlightenment, it has been liberalism that keeps pushing the ball back. Things like democracy, secularism, equal rights etc. used to be so radical and left-wing... and now they're commonplace.

    But anyway, the recession is due to deregulation. The corporations do whatever they want and when the shit hits the fan, we bail 'em out.

  • @MonsieurJackAss .. WHAT? It was liberalism that gave birth to this country? Are you freaken kidding me? What kind of propaganda have you been snorting? This country was clearly founded and for the first 175 years have been running under a conservative umbrella. Only since FDR has it started to go to hell with the govt nanny state. That is where you can trace the point it has started going to hell. Liberalism is the total reason. Govt deregulation? LOL try govt regulation is what screwed it up.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy So in your opinion, the fact that your founding fathers established public education, public roads, public services, a government run postal service, and, oh wait, lets see... Oh yeah, FOUNDED THE FREAKING GOVERNMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE is all completely in line with conservative values.

    What do you think guarantees your right to say such stupid things? GOVERNMENT FREAKING REGULATION, moron. A GOVERNING document that REGULATES your right to open your fat yelper.

  • Want to see how long your freedom of speech lasts without GOVERNMENT REGULATION?

    Go ahead, tear up your constitution, see how long the unregulated powers of industry and commerce let you talk when there's no government telling them they have to.

    See how long your neighbors put up with that howling screamer of yours when there's no GOVERNMENT REGULATED police to tell them to leave you alone.

    See how long you live after 65 without a government run retirement program.

  • @Etimos ... WHAT? So only liberals had public education, roads and services? Riiight, so conservatives would not have roads and a govt. LOL Good grief! The founders were very conservative compared to even conservatives of today. They tried very hard for limited govt and little govt as possible to allow people to be as free as possible. Even the notion that any one of these guys was a liberal is beyond stupid! The constitution mostly says what the govt can't do to you. Which pisses liberals off!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Thus begins the history lesson:

    The Age of Enlightenment began after the Renaissance during the 17th and 18th centuries. Intellectuals would use empiricism to arrive at conclusions. During this time there was an expansion of science, aesthetics, and political philosophy. One new idea was democracy. It was first put into practice in the 13 British colonies with the form of a republic. The next attempt was in France. The revolution led to years of disorder that terrorized...

  • @MonsieurJackAss .... Thanks for the liberal incoherent history lesson! LOL.... 1st, democracy was never a new idea and was longed for well before your liberal enlightenment period. Every day man walked this Earth the desire to live free came with it. You think liberals invented democracy? LOL This country was founded by those trying to get away from your liberal, social and govt intereference, that you say was their goal? Get a grip! Your propaganda only flys with nutty liberals like yourself.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Wrong. The ancient Athenians did create the first democracy. The only democracy I can think of after the Athenians would be the Romans, but it was very corrupted and lasted around 100-200 years. After that you really had to wait 1600-1700 years for democracy to be reborn. American democracy only extends from the enlightenment period. "Social and govt interference" is a misinterpretation of what liberals stand for today...

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Back then being a democrat was radical enough. You misinterpret the liberal position as "the government will tell you what to wear, where you work, blah blah blah." No. The progressive side is libertarian, not authoritarian. I say the government should have power to regulate the economy so that corporations can't get away with anything and so that 1929 and 2008 don't happen again.

  • @MonsieurJackAss ... The govt should regulate the economy? You are a certified nut!! The govt sure did swell so far eh? They spend lots more money than they could ever take in. So, yeah lets now have these morons run the entire economy! So if the govt is watching those evil corporations, whom might be watching the govt? Oh I see, in your eyes the govt is GOD and can't possibly be corrupt or incompetent. We elect 600 people in congress and suddenly they are all experts on running everything! LOL

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Ok then, now that you've ceded history.

    "can't possibly be corrupt" Quite the contrary! And which party was it that received millions of dollars from secret donors?

    Indeed the government is corrupt, in part because of the lobbyists.

    Now if they did watch those corporations whom might watch the government?

    The people.

  • @MonsieurJackAss .... secret donors? Buy you are a freakshow! Yeah liberals much like the govt can never be corrupt! LOL.... Do you believe half the sh*t you write? But you see the govt runs the people, so the people as individuals have no control in your world. Oh they can vote huh? Well in an all poweful govt that you dream about how long before the corruption kicks in and elections will be outlawed? Might not a Hitler be born in your fantasy world? Why not? It's almost an invitation for one.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Yeah secret donors, look it up.

    "But you see the govt runs the people, so the people as individuals have no control in your world" No... that would be communism for the left. Authoritarian. I already said progressives are libertarian.

    The government wouldn't be corruptible because there would be no monetary gain for it. Elections couldn't be outlawed because there would be too many powerful people to check that.

    No Hitler. Hitler came to power during the time...

  • @aSingleDallasGuy when the German army was practically non-existent thanks to Versailles. There was great political disunity, economic depression and anger. There would be too many checks for Hitler #2.

  • @MonsieurJackAss ... Thanks for that vote of confidence Joseph Goebbels. I feel so relieved now! whew! Ask the Jews about that opinion. I guess Hitler coming from the German Socialist party shouldn't worry you either huh? Those crazy socialists!

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Any time, Himmler. In fact Jews generally lean more liberal, (again look it up). "I guess Hitler coming from the German Socialist party shouldn't worry you either huh? Those crazy socialists!"

    No, not really. They were fascist. (authoritarian + right-wing) Nazism was supposed to be the arch enemy of communism so... wrong... again.

  • @MonsieurJackAss ..... Whats the difference between fascism and what you dream of? Answer.... Nothing. Your nutty idea would certainly invite fascism. Fascism is much more likely to come from the left-wing as Hitler came into power. When you concentrate power in the govt like you dream of its the same as gift wrapping fascism in an invitation. That person would not even need to concentrate his power since you did him the favor already. Utter recklessness. Such a waste of a life.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Fascism: a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

    wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/­webwn

    I've already said this twice dude... the government would have checks in it as it already has. I am not changing the government at all. It merely has more economic power.

  • @MonsieurJackAss .... There you are Mr Google. can you not have a normal conversation without Google? LOL You cannot possibly believe having the govt run the economy will include checks? By the people? LOL As I said soon the people would not be even allowed to vote, the news they get will be run by your govt. It's just a matter of time in your wacky world. You are dangerous to yourself. Too stupid and idealogy driven for any common sense to penetrate that pea brain.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Google helps me prove my point. I would suggest using it. You're so misinformed.

    Well yes, checks by the people every November, but mainly from the government itself... you know... legislative, executive, and judicial? You remember? From 3rd grade?

    There is no logical connection from having a liberal, libertarian government become authoritarian. You're living in the 50's watching some propaganda about how evil Russia is.

  • @MonsieurJackAss ... LOL, if i'm living in the 50's, you are living on Mars! What in the world could make you think that concentrating power on any group would ever be a good thing? Your socialistic views has your brain miswired. You in in some fantasy utopian world that has never existed in human kind and you think the outcome would be good. Did the politburo in your fav country go hungry? Did they live in the best housing? Did they somehow become rich? Human nature my idiot friend. Learn it.

  • @aSingleDallasGuy Whoever said I wanted to concentrate power? I already said a few times; I, like most liberals are libertarians. I think you need to look that word up, because you're not getting it. We have 3 branches for a reason.