Deze vlieger was volgens mij Archie Ripetto uit Bitburg in his " Flying Office " en het was een waanzinnige demo .. beetje jammer van die zeikzachte grond naast de baan.
@rum825 De pilot was Dennis R. Kuehler. Op 8 juni 1987 is hij alsnog om het leven gekomen tijdens een laagvlieg manoeuvre met de F15C 81-0056 van het 27ste TFS.
@Hevrom Will tell you. Everyone I know, who was stationed there consider it the best place and experience All very fond of the Dutch people. I wish that I could have stayed and lived there. I sometimes visit my old duplex thru google. I can click along the streets viewing 360 degrees. Much of town is same. My rented home from Mr. Van Dolderen (Van Dolderen Autowerks) is just the same after 30 odd years. The address is burg. grothestraatt 66 Soest , Nl . It was the left side of home.
@Hevrom Hello, well you are welcome in the defense. Sometimes I think what we were doing was more of a cat and mouse routine between east German airforce and our aircraft over the north sea and east west dutch/german border..On rare sunny day many of us were near the post office/ movie theater when 2 MIG aircraft flew over. I can still see the bright large red star on the tail. They must have been less then 300 meters above the tree line. I could see the pilots. PS. I worked FMS, was not pilot.
@michaelpilot1000 Just wanted to know, do you go on the base? I have seen a few photos of the buildings. Not much on the flight line, base PX. I wonder how much they will tear down for the park? Our building was called AGE. Aero Space Ground Equipment. It was units for mobile elect power for aircraft. When I arrived we had units for starting engines of the Phantom F-4 C aircraft. F-15 did not need this air pressure to turn over turbines of jet engine. We had bomb loaders and portable lights.
This must have been first accident of this nature at CNA.
We did lose 2 pilots and an aircraft over the North (Nord Zee) Sea in 1978?
Pilot was flying low and dipped a wing into a wave. Yes, pilot error...
In 1975 I witnesed a T-38 crash at Offutt AFB, Nebraska. Both pilots ejected. Only one chute opened. This was done during landing. I happend to be on rescue team that day. The trainee hit the cut corn field nearby and crawled about 6 feet. The aircraft slid along the hard ground ,Undamaged.
ik ben erbij geweest dus heb het ook zien gebeuren,het was een duitse piloot die met de schietstoel vrijkwam maar dat kun je niet zien op de film.hij rolde echt over de landingsbaan heen en was een grote vuurzee.
@poepie517 Ik heb dit ongeluk ook zien gebeuren. De kist maakt als laatste manouvre een 'tall slide' op te lage hoogte en kwam daardoor te laag uit om nog fatsoenlijk te kunnen landen. Het vliegtuig ging door z'n wielen en kwam 'buikschuivend'op het gras tot stilstand. De brand kan ik me niet herinneren, wel dat de piloot na enige tijd zwaaide naar het publiek. Het voorval was zeker spannend omdat het er even op leek dat de kist op het publiek (buiten het hek) zou neerkomen.
@poepie517 , het was géén Duitse piloot. Deze F-15 is afkomstig van de Amerikaanse vliegbasis "Bitburg". Deze Amerikaanse basis is gelegen in Duitsland (Bitburg). De piloot is gewoon een Amerikaanse staatsburger die toen de tijd gestationeerd is geweest in Duitsland....
I was there in the early 80's and saw the way too short turn and knew it was going to crash. Too sad. Glad the guy came out well. I hated to see the F15 leave The Netherlands.
The nose of the 80-0007 is now owned by Gene Buckle (website) a private citizen in Washington State and will be turned into a life-sized F-15 flight simulator. Buckle found the ruined cockpit in 2000 at the Olympia Air Museum. The previous owner wanted $1,500 -- about a dollar a pound. When he got it, it had been sitting outside for about 10 years, the corrosion wasn't really so bad, considering the environment it had been in, but the avionics were gone, the electronics, everything.
I was the US Air Force Security Police Ops Officer at the time, and remember it well. The plane skidded across the taxiway and runway, and came to a stop on the grass. The pilot popped the canopy and ran out the front of the plane JUST before it went up in flames. Fortunately the plane missed the crowd coming down, or we would have had a catastrophe. Thanks for posting this video.
For a complete write up on the crash with lots of interesting facts, go to the 32 TFS Slobbering Wolfhounds web page and click on other facts, crash open house.
I was there from 1981 - 1985. Actually witnessed this crash first hand. Glad the guy got out safely, but he hot-doggged it, gears down, clipped the tree tops and the rest is history.
It was my first airshow and had to experience this crash when i was 8 years old. Today i went to Soesterberg again, to see the Phantom F4 land. Tomorrow, 12 november, they'll close airbase Soesterberg forever. Too bad.
dude, 8 en 9 november waren de openvliegdagen van de luchtmacht, deze waren op soesterberg. Elke no-lifer die ook nog tv kijkt of de website vd luchtmacht in de gaten houd had dat kunnen weten. Wat lul je nou..
I was there. The lived, he (the pilot) actually blew the canopy and ran. The airplane came from Bitburg Tail no. 80-007, like the video says.(balls 7). I worked Phase Dock during those days. Many don't know but the airplane had only approx 25 flight hours from the MDC factory.
When I saw the airplane it was in a tab vee on a flat bed truck. I remember standing on top of the plane and it had a brand new paint job. Standing on top of it you wouldn't think it was destroyed. I worked Phase Dock from Jan 1981-1983. I left CNA for Luke AFB. Today, I am a tech rep for Boeing, and back to Holland. I haven't been back to Soesterberg, but I plan to.
I also was there :) I was the crewchief on CNA_032 Which was on the apron for display that day. I was on call.
007... was F-15 portion of the airshow was flown by an Airshow "trained" pilot. So despite protest by our own pilots who wanted to fly the show, comand saw it fit for the Bittburg pilot to fly 007... a 2 seat F-15.
He flew the show fine, until he came in to land and over shot the runway. His left strut went off the pavement and sunk... spinning the jet. He was very lucky not to have flipped it. He was also very lucky when he blew the canopy and ran given the fact that he failed to shut down engines.
good old times .. its almost closing. it sucks. after u( the amerins right? ) had left the airport there was alot of training with the PC-3 Orions chinooks and later also pc-7's but after they sold the orions there was not much flight activity anymore .. it sucks.
Deze vlieger was volgens mij Archie Ripetto uit Bitburg in his " Flying Office " en het was een waanzinnige demo .. beetje jammer van die zeikzachte grond naast de baan.
rum825 7 months ago
@rum825 De pilot was Dennis R. Kuehler. Op 8 juni 1987 is hij alsnog om het leven gekomen tijdens een laagvlieg manoeuvre met de F15C 81-0056 van het 27ste TFS.
mimatupo 7 months ago
ik herinner me dit nog ik was toen 7 a 8 jaar oud.
toen we terug liepen naar de auto bij mijn vader aan de hand.
goh wat gaat tijd toch snel.
vonhelsing 8 months ago
@Hevrom Will tell you. Everyone I know, who was stationed there consider it the best place and experience All very fond of the Dutch people. I wish that I could have stayed and lived there. I sometimes visit my old duplex thru google. I can click along the streets viewing 360 degrees. Much of town is same. My rented home from Mr. Van Dolderen (Van Dolderen Autowerks) is just the same after 30 odd years. The address is burg. grothestraatt 66 Soest , Nl . It was the left side of home.
michaelpilot1000 9 months ago
@Hevrom Hello, well you are welcome in the defense. Sometimes I think what we were doing was more of a cat and mouse routine between east German airforce and our aircraft over the north sea and east west dutch/german border..On rare sunny day many of us were near the post office/ movie theater when 2 MIG aircraft flew over. I can still see the bright large red star on the tail. They must have been less then 300 meters above the tree line. I could see the pilots. PS. I worked FMS, was not pilot.
michaelpilot1000 9 months ago
@michaelpilot1000 Just wanted to know, do you go on the base? I have seen a few photos of the buildings. Not much on the flight line, base PX. I wonder how much they will tear down for the park? Our building was called AGE. Aero Space Ground Equipment. It was units for mobile elect power for aircraft. When I arrived we had units for starting engines of the Phantom F-4 C aircraft. F-15 did not need this air pressure to turn over turbines of jet engine. We had bomb loaders and portable lights.
michaelpilot1000 9 months ago
He knife edged it right in....
ricksteffey123 10 months ago
Schauen Sie nach rechts du Idiot
masterkillerx1 10 months ago
This must have been first accident of this nature at CNA.
We did lose 2 pilots and an aircraft over the North (Nord Zee) Sea in 1978?
Pilot was flying low and dipped a wing into a wave. Yes, pilot error...
In 1975 I witnesed a T-38 crash at Offutt AFB, Nebraska. Both pilots ejected. Only one chute opened. This was done during landing. I happend to be on rescue team that day. The trainee hit the cut corn field nearby and crawled about 6 feet. The aircraft slid along the hard ground ,Undamaged.
michaelpilot1000 10 months ago
Was dit niet tijdens een open dag?
Ik zat daar toen mijn dienstplicht uit, eem hele mooie tijd.
minkuukel 11 months ago
@minkuukel Hello, gud dag. Yes (ja) Open Day. ( Open Dag)
Sgt. R.Michael Pitman. CNA 1977-1980
I lived in Soest with wife and son.
I miss the Nederlands and people!
michaelpilot1000 10 months ago
dan is hij er zeker zonder schietstoel uitgesprongen ik heb het ook zien gebeuren
de schietstoel zit er nog gewoon in en een tail slide kan een F15 niet maken dat sloopt de motoren
erwinhufner01 1 year ago
dan is hij er zeker zonder schietstoel uitgesprongen ik heb het ook zien gebeuren
de schietstoel zit er nog gewoon in en een tail slide kan een F15 niet maken dat sloopt de motoren
erwinhufner01 1 year ago
Pfff... apart from this crash.. this video shows a tiny bit of CNA's finest times at Soesterbeg. Such a shame it had to close...
Anacinc 1 year ago
ik ben erbij geweest dus heb het ook zien gebeuren,het was een duitse piloot die met de schietstoel vrijkwam maar dat kun je niet zien op de film.hij rolde echt over de landingsbaan heen en was een grote vuurzee.
Ik heb er nog foto's van,was wel spannend!
poepie517 1 year ago
@poepie517 Ik heb dit ongeluk ook zien gebeuren. De kist maakt als laatste manouvre een 'tall slide' op te lage hoogte en kwam daardoor te laag uit om nog fatsoenlijk te kunnen landen. Het vliegtuig ging door z'n wielen en kwam 'buikschuivend'op het gras tot stilstand. De brand kan ik me niet herinneren, wel dat de piloot na enige tijd zwaaide naar het publiek. Het voorval was zeker spannend omdat het er even op leek dat de kist op het publiek (buiten het hek) zou neerkomen.
KlasingMartijn 1 year ago
@poepie517 , het was géén Duitse piloot. Deze F-15 is afkomstig van de Amerikaanse vliegbasis "Bitburg". Deze Amerikaanse basis is gelegen in Duitsland (Bitburg). De piloot is gewoon een Amerikaanse staatsburger die toen de tijd gestationeerd is geweest in Duitsland....
Dit even ter aanvulling op je informatie....
MZuurendonk 11 months ago
I was there in the early 80's and saw the way too short turn and knew it was going to crash. Too sad. Glad the guy came out well. I hated to see the F15 leave The Netherlands.
kuipersp 2 years ago
Beautifull!! love the F-15C
but i love the F-14 Tomcat even more!!
UsedToFly1 2 years ago
uhu kheb et ding zien staan bij dat luchtvaart museum kilometertje verderop. Netjes opgelapt.
groeneslang 2 years ago
aviodrome?? ben ik wel s geweest, heel leuk
MiG291995 2 years ago
nee niet het aviodrome, maar een luchtmacht museum bij de basis.
masterpilot94 2 years ago
opgelapt ? na deze crash is ie niet meer vliegwaardig geweest
sterker nog iemand heeft die cockpit als simulator in de schuur staan in de states
die kist die jij bedoelt heeft een heel ander serie nummer dan deze van bitburg
macDan72 2 years ago
The nose of the 80-0007 is now owned by Gene Buckle (website) a private citizen in Washington State and will be turned into a life-sized F-15 flight simulator. Buckle found the ruined cockpit in 2000 at the Olympia Air Museum. The previous owner wanted $1,500 -- about a dollar a pound. When he got it, it had been sitting outside for about 10 years, the corrosion wasn't really so bad, considering the environment it had been in, but the avionics were gone, the electronics, everything.
macDan72 2 years ago
dus er is ooit een crasch geweest ?
sanneinlove 2 years ago
I was the US Air Force Security Police Ops Officer at the time, and remember it well. The plane skidded across the taxiway and runway, and came to a stop on the grass. The pilot popped the canopy and ran out the front of the plane JUST before it went up in flames. Fortunately the plane missed the crowd coming down, or we would have had a catastrophe. Thanks for posting this video.
MLewis5455 3 years ago
For a complete write up on the crash with lots of interesting facts, go to the 32 TFS Slobbering Wolfhounds web page and click on other facts, crash open house.
MLewis5455 3 years ago
I was stationed at Soesterberg from 1982-1987. My best assignment ever. Holland is a great country.
wolfhounds1 3 years ago
I was there from 1981 - 1985. Actually witnessed this crash first hand. Glad the guy got out safely, but he hot-doggged it, gears down, clipped the tree tops and the rest is history.
Bassntx 2 years ago
did the pilot punch out in time?
crazysunami 3 years ago
It was my first airshow and had to experience this crash when i was 8 years old. Today i went to Soesterberg again, to see the Phantom F4 land. Tomorrow, 12 november, they'll close airbase Soesterberg forever. Too bad.
BammBammBering 3 years ago
Oh shit!!! Hope the pilot survived!
lo898 3 years ago
In 1981 was er nog helemaal geen spottersberg/heuvel! Maar het is wel ongeveer vanaf die plaats (dichter tegen het hek) gefilmd.
mimatupo 3 years ago
ik weet niet waar jij hebt gespot, maar dit is zeker soesterberg niet.
soesterberg kan je namelijk alleen maar zien vanaf die spottersberg/heuvel, en daar sta jij volgens mij niet eens.
PitbullNL 3 years ago
dude, wat is jou probleem? moet ik alles precies gaan uitleggen zodat zo'n zielig gastje als jij begrijpt wat ik bedoel?
man, get a life!
en als je vliegen echt mooi vind, vind je alles mooi wat vliegt (vogels etc uitgezonderd;)), t zegt dus meer over jou dan over mij..
BBar90 4 years ago
Ik heb geen probleem hoor jongen.
Ik corrigeerde je alleen maar.
En ik vind zelfs vogels mooi om te zien;)
Kan je nagaan.
Nick0172 3 years ago
je bent wel heel subtiel (ahum)..ma k snap jou ook al jongen..
haha in dat geval ben je een echte vliegfreak..en k moet toegeven dat ze idd wel mooi zijn..
correctie voor jou..k ben geen jongen-.- maar goed, we begrijpen elkaar nu..soort van;)
BBar13 3 years ago
Oh xD
Ja dat kan ik ook niet aan je naam aflezen he 8-)
Nick0172 3 years ago
neuh XD
BBar13 3 years ago
wanneer was dit? k ben gister op de open dag geweest in soesterberg, echt geweldig! waren jullie op de basis?
BBar90 4 years ago
Knap dat jij op een opendag op soesterberg bent geweest die er niet was!
Nick0172 4 years ago
dude, 8 en 9 november waren de openvliegdagen van de luchtmacht, deze waren op soesterberg. Elke no-lifer die ook nog tv kijkt of de website vd luchtmacht in de gaten houd had dat kunnen weten. Wat lul je nou..
BBar13 4 years ago
Vlieger-info dagen retard, dat is geen opendag.
Ga niet slap lullen over opendag die er niet was.
Was enkel een demo'tje van de J-055 en wat ander materieel.
Nick0172 4 years ago
LOL IDK what that means, but I understand retard just fine!
quinnr441 3 years ago
xD
Should i translate it for ya?
Nick0172 3 years ago
Sure. What language is it?
quinnr441 3 years ago
Its dutch ;)
Nick0172 3 years ago
sweet. whats it mean?
quinnr441 3 years ago
I worked flight line at Soesterburg. 32nd TFS from 1977 thru 1980. F-4 and F-15's. Anyone know what tail number this plane had?
Did the pilot survive.
skipjackbj 4 years ago
I was there. The lived, he (the pilot) actually blew the canopy and ran. The airplane came from Bitburg Tail no. 80-007, like the video says.(balls 7). I worked Phase Dock during those days. Many don't know but the airplane had only approx 25 flight hours from the MDC factory.
netbeans01 4 years ago
When I saw the airplane it was in a tab vee on a flat bed truck. I remember standing on top of the plane and it had a brand new paint job. Standing on top of it you wouldn't think it was destroyed. I worked Phase Dock from Jan 1981-1983. I left CNA for Luke AFB. Today, I am a tech rep for Boeing, and back to Holland. I haven't been back to Soesterberg, but I plan to.
netbeans01 4 years ago
I also was there :) I was the crewchief on CNA_032 Which was on the apron for display that day. I was on call.
007... was F-15 portion of the airshow was flown by an Airshow "trained" pilot. So despite protest by our own pilots who wanted to fly the show, comand saw it fit for the Bittburg pilot to fly 007... a 2 seat F-15.
CNA32 4 years ago
You can see in the video how the fire department had to shut them down with foam as they are still both fired up and potentially ready to explode.
Score one for CNA.. as we kept 007 on base and used it for parts for months to come ;)
CNA32 4 years ago
He flew the show fine, until he came in to land and over shot the runway. His left strut went off the pavement and sunk... spinning the jet. He was very lucky not to have flipped it. He was also very lucky when he blew the canopy and ran given the fact that he failed to shut down engines.
CNA32 4 years ago
good old times .. its almost closing. it sucks. after u( the amerins right? ) had left the airport there was alot of training with the PC-3 Orions chinooks and later also pc-7's but after they sold the orions there was not much flight activity anymore .. it sucks.
flyerholland 3 years ago
The elevon[s] looked like it was deflected upwards near it's limit. It seems like he stalled.
Chuckjagermeister 4 years ago
Not likely to have stalled given the F-15s vertical take off abillity.
CNA32 4 years ago
The F-15 does not have Vertical take of capability.
AusQuitzau 3 years ago 2
Sorry didn't see your comment.
quinnr441 3 years ago
F-15 don't have vertical takeoff capability.
quinnr441 3 years ago
remarcable is that the air brake was not deployed when the eagle went into final !
i have original 24x36 colourslides of the a/c involved
on the crash site :))
1HEXJUMPER 4 years ago
Would enjoy seeing those pictures... care to share?!
CNA32 4 years ago
The pilot survived?
Fristidefruitigste 5 years ago
yes
realitic 4 years ago
Last airshow at soesterberg :( `81 was a good year.
And i forgot that usaf aircraft shows even sucked back then, all it does is a buncha flypasts.. just like now.
m0j0NL 5 years ago