Anahuac Mural with Nelyollotl Toltecatl of Mexica Movement

[TeslaDRay]

this is a real nice guy.

[Outlaw91791]

just wanted to know, you had both videos up before.

[Outlaw91791]

do you still have the second part to this video?

[CuauhtIatohuac]

why?

[liquidsnake123]

Is that you on the video?One thing I've noticed is that alot of these people that oppose and talk negatice about this movement are white nationalist/supremacist :i.e. deomthe U.S.,Spain,or white hispanics.

You can tell from by the words they chose.

They even make up propaganda like claiming "aryans" were the "first" in the americas,china ,"aryan" from space. LOL

[CuauhtIatohuac]

No, that's not me, that is Nelyollotl Toltecatl of the Mexica Movement.

Haha, yeah I agree!

[nicantlacaroots]

@CuauhtIatohuac and,there always like,"go back to asia and we'll go back to europe!"no,stupid dumbasses,thats not how it works,lol.good videos man!

[1nV1nC1Bl3BaLaM]

Give us back our land and we will forget European inventions, is that clear????!!!!

[CuauhtIatohuac]

we want the good, we dont want the bad. is that clear?

your logic assumes that we could not have made the modern world had we not been colonized, which is not true. and it is a bit like saying "you can have some ice cream, but only if you eat ten times more shit!" makes no sense.

[Mapanatl]

@CuauhtIatohuac Very well said Homie.

NEVER GIVE the activism for our Children.



[ChronicFallacy]

@1nV1nC1Bl3BaLaM , how about you resurrect the species that your asian ancestors wiped out?

ohhhh wait, I forgot....you lived in "perfect harmony with nature", right?

[ChronicFallacy]

i saw a video of your chubby leader in Southern Mexico, decrying local kids for owning ipods and deeming them "Eurocentric". But wait a minute, if they are "Eurocentric" for using ipods, then that effectively makes him "Eurocentric" for using a digital recording camera and microphone and later posting his video on the internet via a computer! Your argument holds about as much water as neo nazi bands playing rock while denigrating African Americans who invented rock music in the first place.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

try watching the video objectivley this time. what you said about it was not true. i see not need to adress lies, wether you know it or not. i see you brave racists adhere to ad hominems and strawmans, when you cant from a real argument, which is pretty much all the fucking time.

[VronRN2]

An amazing piece of truth and art.

[jaulloa21]

Again, great video! Cuauhtlatohhuac check out the the zapatista movement, it shares an ideology similiar to the mexica movement. liberation from a eurocentric oppressive reality manifested in our society and around the world. To look, see, talk in a form thats familiar and widely accepted globally, but all imposed by the Europeans.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

i am aware of it, but as of now they arent really doing much. they are good people, they mean well, but they are very eurocentric themselves, very marxist.

[jaulloa21]

I heard marcos speak. He is in no way or form the way you describe him or his group of indigenous supporters. We are not living in the past anymore, so the approach to the mexica movement is to restore pride on the Mexican people? thats fine.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

i am just saying he is a marxist. that is a fact. he adheres to marxism. marxism is eurocentric.

[jaulloa21]

we can't live the same way of our ancestors anymore. So what does the mexica movement have thats better than the Zapatista's? remember the europeans took some of our political policies from us. Politics is universal. A new world order should be put in place, without forgeting our indigenous roots, traditions, music, etc... Mexico has that. but the system is govern by the top elites. same as the U.S.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

yes we can. we can once again live with honor, dignity and freedom. Mexica Movement presents a plan for liberation through grassroots education of our people. we have our own societal and cultural norms to follow. yes they are similar, but still different, and we should follow those plans that are our own, not europeans.

[jaulloa21]

Cuauhtlatohuac,

I think your a good man. You have a lot courage for the work you have done thus far, but It's difficult to see this plan of the Mexica Movement. With all due respect. Globalization has already consumed this planet. And considering how Mexicans are not seen in a positive way in the United States for numerous reasons. Ex. illegals (leeches) whatever..We are not taken seriously, because instead of trying to fix Mexico's internal problems, we decide to fight here...

[jaulloa21]

The United States is an empire. It can be called whatever name, but it's still an Empire. You can look at any country, you'll see the connection. It's all run by the elites; the corporate giants. The future is leading to only one direction, and technology is leading the way. I've been watching too many movies, but the mexica movement has its agenda, globalization has its own. We will most likely use their advancements in the future. As you are doing now. You are in their system.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

i am not sure what you are saying. yes, i use technology, i drive a car, i use electricity. so what? if our people hadnt been invaded would we not be a modern nation? the plan of Mexica Movement is liberation through education. We are not just concerned with "mexcio" of just Mexicans. we are the indigenous people of this entire continent.

[jaulloa21]

I know, we can say we are indigenous to this whole continent, but look what happened to the aborigines of Australia. They got wiped out basically. For what? Same reason as here, Europeans wanted to build another Europe. The government just want us (the people) to work and pay or taxes.. Have you seen micheal moores new documentary? I recommend you see it.

[jaulloa21]

I truly believe the focus should be centered on Mexico first, then the union can be made a possibility in the future. The United States doesn't want to associate itself with the problems Mexico currently has. We still use the imperalistic language of spain, we have a looong way to go.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

everything you say is being countered by Mexica Movement most effectivley. we disagree on wether or not those colonial borders should be considered, fine. i still think we want the same thing

[jaulloa21]

The Mexica Movement is an awareness program to teach ourselves and the world- where we came from. How our ancestors lived and how we came to be in this modern world. Historically speaking The Mexica tribe had a great civilization, BUT their civilization was not perfect. They also segregated themselves from other tribes, even though there were no borders there was infact a harsh law present.

[jaulloa21]

Their civilization had a dark prophecy, held in their oral traditions. An inaccurate quote from Montezoma i believe-"I shall make war to all proviences, cities, towns, settlements, and make all of them my subjects; my servants. But just as I will subjugate them, so too will they be snatched from me and turned against me by strangers that will drive me out of this land." The Mayan calender predicts this event accurately. The Mexica civilization was never meant to live forever.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

BULLSCHITT!!!!! Where are you getting this shit? So we just knew we had to lay down and take it? with all due respect, you just shit on everything we fight for. OUR Mexica Civilization (NOT a tribe!) WILL live again! and if you dont think so, take your place with the vendidos and get the fuck out of our way.

[jaulloa21]

Listen, if your going to get all sensitive about this, then the messege that you and your leader are trying to convey will never work. If you think im wrong, then why can't you prove it? I read your ideology, and i know that is is an awareness movement, NOT a modern civilization. The moral has a mexica-centric view that eliminates 'diversity'. The Zapatista's are known worldwide, and are gaining massive support from several nations. Click on my channel, i have their ideology there.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

if you are not "sensitive" about the freedom of our people, then you shouldnt claim to fight for it, or believe any superstitious bullschit. it upsets me when OUR OWN PEOPLE believe such lies! and we are supposed to be strong and free? prove what? that shit about "prophecies" was started by the spanish. read Mexico by Michael D Coe. Yes, it is about awarness, to rebuild a civilization, or is that not your goal? are you a zapatista? are you fighting for our people? Massive support eh? thats fine

[CuauhtIatohuac]

Diversity!? what do you call 500 years of cultural castration? whats wrong with trying to revive your culture? how does that deny anyone else? The Zapatistas are fine, but they dont go as far as we would like to.

[jaulloa21]

The Zapatistas are getting their message heard in a global scale. The way they have orchestrated their tactics and ideologies is impressive all by itself. They have haven't risen arms against the Mexican gov, since 1995 I believe. Their fighting against neo-liberalism first. It's a step by step process. Don't get me wrong, I agree with the mexica movement as well. I just see the Zapatistas as the basic foundation, to the Mexica Movement's conclusion.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

again, their message is MARXIST, which is fine, but it is not Nican Tlaca, not an Indigenous way of thought. The conclusion of the Zapatistas is a communist one, which is not the conclusion of Mexica Movement. if you are a marxist/communist, fine, but Mexica Movement is not

[jaulloa21]

It is marxist to degree? Socialist more so.. However it evaluates the current economic standards to comply with the impoverished areas of Mexico. The power structure will not change unless people fight for change! Do you really believe the Mexica Movement is going to bring down multiBillion dollar corporations, just so the indigenous people can have their way of life back? think again. Capitalism grantes these businesses free enterprise, Those who have the money have the power!

[CuauhtIatohuac]

watever. their goals an ideas are eurocentric. i belive MM is the start of the rebuilding of our authentic Nican Tlaca nations, so yes. yes, JUST so we can have our way of life, JUST so we can have freedom, and JUST for justice. what the fuck are you fighting for? history has shown us that money is not needed for power

[jaulloa21]

ideas are ideas. the mass media is biased, so that is an example of eurocentrism. The power structure that America has is capitalistic right? Now what the mexica movement implies is "Anarchy" since it hasn't provided a power structure of its own yet. So I can assume that favors a lawless revolution.

So.. The mexica movement provides the truth, factual events and accomplishments of our history. It liberates us from eurocentric bigotry, what else?

[CuauhtIatohuac]

Mexica Movement certainly does not imply anarchy, and not that anrachy is that bad either. it seems that YOUR STUPID IMPLICATION is that pre 1492 our people lived in anarchy. wrong. Mexica Movement presents a completley authentic, Nican Tlaca way of society, the history of our ancestors ar our blueprints. Yes, we had laws, structures, societies, and were quite successful. not every good idea came from white people, as you claim. have you even read the material? if you want to be a communist, ok.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

but MM is not on board with that. what else do you want besides liberation from white supremacy? other than the freedom to be ourselves, to succeed in our own societies, in our own cultures, our own ways?

[ChronicFallacy]

" yes, i use technology, i drive a car, i use electricity. so what?"

the fact that you can't see the glaring hypocrisy of that statement in accordance with your group's ideology is pretty amusing

[CuauhtIatohuac]

okay smart guy let me break it down for you. who is to say that had we not been colonized, we could not have made the modern world? one of the reasons europe was so able to excel in science, medicine, etc post colonization was because of the massive influx of wealth they stole from our lands. we are the investors in what they have done. so yes, i use technology, i drive a car, i use electricity. so what? if you had read the rest of the other replied comments maybe you would have seen this.

[ChronicFallacy]

Ahh, you're right. I completely forgot how the Olmecs perfected fiber optic cables thousands of years ago. Or how the Toltec's used deep sea submersibles to traverse the the abysmal depths. And who can forget Galileo Ferraris stealing his idea for the magnetic induction motor from Mixtec writings? LOL Give me a break. The truth is absolute agony for you to recognize. If you Mexica Movement goons practiced an ounce of what you preached you would AVOID all European(yes, European) inventions!

[CuauhtIatohuac]

when you ignore my argument, it doesnt mean you have defeated. try using some logic if it wont kill you.

[ChronicFallacy]

Ignore your argument? lol You REFUSE to acknowledge my point that you CANNOT ressurect some extinct civilization free of all of those "evil" European influences while conveniently using the useful ones. Not surprising you resort to contradiction and circular logic. Face it: You guys do not practice what you preach. Hate Europeans and all of their influence? Then step away from this descendant of the developements of Alan Turning and PROVE you can be independent of them.

[CuauhtIatohuac]

"Europeans and all of their influence." no, never did we say that, no matter what you would want us to say. We simply ACKNOWLEDGE that there is no reason it would have been OUR inventions had we not been colonized. Or anyone elses for that matter. Point being, there is no need to assume white supremacy in this. That just because whites discovered this we must accept all of the evil Europeans have done too. It's like saying, "if you eat ice cream, you have to eat the shit. no thanks. We will be.

[ChronicFallacy]

If you want to return 100% to the ways of your ancestors, it would behoove you to demonstrate that actions speak louder than words. Your Mexica Movement has not demonstrated this, only using romantic musings and petty victim identity politics. You constantly bemoan the "evil Europeans", when you are referring to a group of colonial Western European powers who do not define Europeans or their influence as a whole. But this is the way reactionary groups work. All passion, all emotion. No logic

[CuauhtIatohuac]

You just brought up something completley irrelavant to this conversation. "100% to the ways of your ancestors" no, we actually dont. we are interested in evolving as a people. You are simply making up things, wether knowingly or not.

[minutemenAREcowards1]

@ChronicFallacy Mexic Movement stopped TWO major budgeted hollywood propaganda films portraying indigenous peoples as worthless savages in comparison to "superior" europeans... and they constantly continue to do the great work that they do, they criticise and challenge the bullshitters out there that distort our ancestors and our reality today! They PAINTED the LARGEST MURAL IN THE WORLD based on Indigenous people! you on the other hand, is safe to assume that you haven't done shit =)

[anahuacwarrior]

great video beyond that!

[anahuacwarrior]

what kind of bastard would tag right over the face of the warrior like that? that person's life must be very dark and empty.

[AnahuacWomenFight]

Nelyollotl is a great artist, thinker, and writer! When he explains our history he makes you understand it in a very thorough and insightful way. Great job in posting this!

Citlalli Citlalmina Anahuac

[Outlaw91791]

did you have to request a day with Nelyollotl to do a walkthrough? or do you know him personally?...

[CuauhtIatohuac]

no, i know him through the movement. im from phoenix az, i met him when i went to LA that weekend. i wanted to visit the mural and he gave us a tour.

[Outlaw91791]

great video, did you record any footage of the other side of the mural?

[CuauhtIatohuac]

unfortunatley no...my memory card ran out. but the other videos cover some of it i think

[tuberpie68]

63 subscribers & only 8 of them have watched this in 2 days?! What's going on? I trust part 2 will be up soon. Maybe your other subbies are waiting until they can watch the whole thing. What I've seen so far I gave ★★★★★!

[CuauhtIatohuac]

well i had it on private until last night, so it's a little late in that regard.

[redpillplease]

...where's part 2, please? is it up yet?

-peace

[CuauhtIatohuac]

im still working on it. should be up in the next few days.

[redpillplease]

that was extraordinary! thanks for sharing and educating on the very important Anahuac history through the spectacular mural - just brilliant, authentic and intelligent piece of work...i'm tuning in to part 2 now ...

-peace