The Stupid Show - Episode 8 - Final thoughts

[622Phillies]

What the hell?

[charlienethercoat094]

she'e the sort of woman who has 8 pet cats

[arcart0]

Hi, did you know that an alternative to the vacuum cleaner using

Air Recycling Technology can make a 250 Watt cleaner work more efficiently than a 1,400 watt vacuum cleaner; saving 75% of electricity used with no reduction in the cleaning performance.

An annual saving In the UK of 1.5 Terawatt of electricity. About £225,000,000 worth of electricity at 15p a unit and 650,000 Tonnes of CO2, Unfortunately neither the cleaner manufacturers or the Government are interested.

[inflateyourtires]

For Stupid

By Stupid

Bye Stupid

[judomagyar]

Climate models seem to predict that when the ocean temperature increases, less radiation leaves the earth to space, which leads to additional warming—a positive feedback.

Actual observations seem to show that warmer oceans results in more radiation lost to space, which acts to reverse the warming—in other words, a negative feedback. The data presented by Lindzen and Choi are convincing to me.

Oh! And here in Florida we still have a cold winter even though it it march 6th no!

[BravoCharlieComAU]

Thank you for your contributions.

[stuntcat666]

one of those few people who aren't making me completely ashamed of my species from now on.

Thank you Ms Armstrong

[Fred13B]

As the Wise stuntcat said.

[dappledopple]

the suns rays do get out but not as much because of the co2 the more co2 or green house gasses the more of the rays get trapped heating the earth,

[dappledopple]

it does affect the atmosphere, the co2 lets the heat from the sun get in and keep the earth warm as it would or we wouldnt be here,

but to much makes it to hot (the green house effect)

venus is a hottest planet in the solar system but its not the closest to the sun, this is because of the green house effect mostly because of the huge amount of green house gasses

[AzureSky001]

The same amount of radiation that comes THROUGH the earths atmosphere is the same amount of radiation that comes OUT of the atmosphere, if it went THROUGH how on earth does it not come out?, I am not sure how the atmosphere works on Venus but I know how it does on earth, if the sun is more active, there is going to be more heat radiating in and out of the earths atmosphere because the sun is giving off more heat -

[AzureSky001]

and if the sun is less active there will be less heat radiating in and from the earths atmosphere, in other words the same amount of radiation that comes in, is the same amount that comes out, if it were true that co2 keeps the radiation from getting out then nights would be just as hot as the day and we probably would all be cooking by now

[BlaineDeschain]

no idea what you are talking about. Dear lord, "we probably would all be cooking by now", you also don't know how the insulating effect of gases works nor do you even seem to understand what radiation is. Please don't try to discuss areas like this again, you are utterly out of your depth, in both knowledge, logic, spelling and grammar. When you finish high school and college you might be slightly more literate. Also try learning what convection heating is please, will answer your other post.

[dappledopple]

yes, they cant say 100% we are enhancing global warming but, there has been a increase in co2 sense the industrial revolutions, the first the english revolution which made a huge increase in co2 then in the American 1 and know china is following now!

[AzureSky001]

there is nothing wrong with co2, co2 does not effect our globes weather or warming in any substantial or significant way at all, and you know china have been making cuts, its called one child policy, if you keep asking people to make co2 cuts you are basically asking for a one child policy or your asking for depopulation, and if you think there are to many people in the world - then start with yourself, there are all kinds of ways you can off yourself, cmon its for the earth...

[dappledopple]

look, we are not causing global warming!!! WE ARE INCANCING IT!!! we never made global warming, it happens naturally, yes more co2 means more plants and more oxygen but we are cutting down these trees!!! so less plants to take in the co2 so theres more co2 in the earths atmosphere!

[AzureSky001]

So then why does everybody need to pay a carbon tax and limit their population? how about attacking those companies or corporations who are cutting down trees, and at the same time tell the governments to stop limiting our water supply to grow plants- like here in California - even if all the carbon dioxide in the world were to double you would only get 0.5 of global warming which is an insufficient amount of warming that will not create any kind of dooms day scenario

[AzureSky001]

Even the ipcc chairman admits that they do not have any definitive evidence for man made climate change or global warming, they only have graphs and documentaries cooked up by political scientists paid by the UN...

[AzureSky001]

The Stupid Show is the correct name for these videos.

[AzureSky001]

also it is not warming anymore, it is now cooling, it has been cooling for the past 8 years, so the question is what did we do in a short amount of time to make it cool again, when it supposedly took so long for us to create warming, also the medieval warm period was hotter and we did not even use fossil fuels at that time, the warming and the cooling that we are getting is caused by the activity of SUN!!! it always has and always will

[BlaineDeschain]

Also the "hoax" data was not a hoax, media misleading due to wording of the sentences and portraying to the public like these were secrets was false. The doubts expressed in those emails were also expressed in their summary papers, doubts not yet confirmed but open to discussion and further research. Also Co2 is not used by plants in enough amounts(due to logging) to accomodate all the extra Co2 released. Your logic is flawed and utterly ridiculous, you obviously have no(continued)

[AzureSky001]

The biggest scam in history, what a joke, I feel bad for this women, I know she is sincere but oh so misguided, global warming or climate change is a hoax!!! Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, more co2 means more plant life, plant life makes oxygen, so if you have lots Co2 you are going to have lots of oxygen....

[BlaineDeschain]

Study the effects of pollution. We're poison our water, creating more and more dangerous rain fall(not related to source water, seperate point), the contamination and destruction of food sources due to chemicals in the atmosphere(rain, air etc.) Now for Co2, Co2 is a plloutant as it kills aerobic fauna when they are subjected to increased amounts of it. Co2 increases the temperature in an environment due to it's composition(being heavier than oxygen, more to follow.)

[dappledopple]

its mostly about money! they all dont want to lose money!!! thats y some of them r so reluctant to do anything

[frpd5]

C02penhagen failed but look at what did come from it.

World-wide demonstrations for climate justice. Archbishop Tutu delivered 2,894 Copenhagen pledges to the U N. There were 3000 climate vigils held in 140 countries. The Avaaz climate petition has 15 million names. Faith groups combined under the Odyssey Network, these included Anglican, Buddhist, Hindu, Lutheran, Methodist, Muslim, Presbyterian, and Roman Catholic.

The tipping point for those that deny climate change has now passed!

[baggiesfan1000]

what an inspiring woman

[kinneyish]

I agree adecentusername, let's just go for it anyway, we must try our best no matter what, as there is a lot to lose if we don't. Well done Franny and the team, you're all very amazing and inspiring, and you ARE making a big difference, don't give up!

[adecentusername]

Listen to the end, everyone. Forget the failure. Let's go. Let's just do it. Let's make cuts in 2010 anyway, because the social and political will is actually there already. Forget talks, targets or the ongoing COP process. Let's just do it.

The carbon habit is a bad one, and China might well find that feeding it is going to encumber them in the medium term more than it helps them in the short term anyway. Forget China: let's get to work.

[uneverknow69]

A brilliant comment on the sad facts of life, our leaders do not care that they are killing the planet, they only care about money. The people are our only option, take whatever action you can to make a difference.

[tjarts]

Thanks for all your hard work Franny and team. Its not just you young ones though, its up to old codgers like me - I'm 67 - to help invent new ways and work to support new and happier ways to live

[yellowprimrose1]

Absolutely! There were 2 older people on the train on my way back from the Wave in london on the 5th Dec (i'd say in their late 70's). They both were carrying their RSPB banners and soon fell to sleep soon as the train left london. It was obviously a long day for them, but they were THERE! How inspiring that they bothered. So many older people sit back on their laurels and leave it to the young, but we're all in this together!

[paultaw]

I would also like to thank Franny and the team for staying awake and reasonably sober enough to keep the show going. You have acheived a lot even if the politicians haven't. Have a well-earned rest and a great Chistmas. I'm off now to do an energy assessment of my factory for 10:10 action! Hope all you readers will also spring into action.

[frydmania]

Amazing how neatly they left the chairs. Will the last one out PLEASE turn off the lights.

[mtrousdell]

What China/USA does is irrelevant to what all other countries should do. Just because someone else is doing something "worse" doesn´t mean you do it to. If someone killed 10 people it wouldn´t then be OK for you to kill 1, right?

[amelie726]

9% of the total chinese emissions are the result of manufacturing goods for the US, while 6% come from producing goods for Europe. Therefore, what we do is highly relevant.

[orangefudge]

That empty conference room looked so eerie

Thanks for such a great show,seemed to give a true feel of what it might have been like to be there.. Quite a heavy atmosphere It seemed.

[styxpt]

can't we make a global petition?

[Akademmy]

Thanks Franny, Mark, Lizzie, Mat and all the other guys at Team Stupid for making cop15 that little bit easier to understand. It been informative and entertaining! (And hoping for a Stupid 10:10 show soon!)