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  • Hi

    I'm a new rogue, lvl 20 atm

    So what do you recommend me to use after I ambush, sinister strike or backstab?

    And please give me some tips in pvp'ing - liked the vid :)

  • @Q4SSIMI That all depends on your spec. If you are only level 20 you don't even have backstab yet lol, so go with sinister strike. In higher levels, use Backstab, unless you are combat spec, in which case use sinister strike.

  • @0Exitus Backstab is lvl 18

  • @hieltjas Then they lowered it. I remember starting a new Worgen rogue on a different server, and although I got Ambush really early, I looked at the training level for Backstab and it was either the 20s or 30s. I remember being pretty upset about it, and level 18 doesn't sound like anything to be upset about lol.

  • hey, can you please make more videos?

  • @ankudr as soon as I get a vacation.

  • @0Exitus could you pls explain your spec builds a bit more and maybe ur armor? :)

    liked the vid :D

  • @DreadsmileZ Sure thing. The armor was just full Relentless gladiator gear. For gemming always aim toward agility, and for reforging aim for critical strike rating (although I have been using a bit more mastery lately and have had good results). For spec there is alot to explain lol, private message me any specific questions you have and I'll answer.

  • I enjoyed the fact that you had music made it more interesting. The only thing I would do is get a less staticy mic. Otherwise great job!

  • Nice vid! Thanks for taking the time to do this!

  • I like the start "we can do this"

  • @glem64 We gotta hold Warden's and ICG! :D

  • @0Exitus What is the name of the combat text addon you use??

  • @flyingdutchman830 mikscrollingbattletext.

  • Good but i can give you tips haha xD

  • @bronky2005 I don't doubt it dude. Like I said, I'm not a pro, just know a few tricks.

  • @0Exitus When are making another video? Perhaps do a weekly montage or something?

  • @Shockbounder I have been pretty busy with college and work, and considering nothing really changed in the 4.3 patch, I'm reluctant to finish a new video :|

  • Wich addon is he using for the combat dmg text?

  • @aj42311 feint is too a important skill if you fighting an arms warrior and he pops bladestorm feint reduces Aoe damage i think it might be increased dodge to Aoe :)

  • @deathlordgod1221 it is a dmg decrease :P it also reduces damage done by Starfall, hurricane, Divine Storm, and Cleaves (if you aren't the primary target).

  • why do you click :(

  • @M00S3TV Old habits died hard :|

  • Holy shit man, the way you got away from those 3 or 4 horde using smoke bomb, blind and shadowstep for the sprint was absolute genius. Just when i think i'm mastering the rogue class i see this and it puts me too shame. Excellent vid.

  • @magsthemagnificent The rogue class has literally the highest skill cap. Just when you've think you mastered it, there is still much more to learn. Good luck, sir :P

  • @0Exitus U couldn't have said it better.

  • Nice video bro helped out alot!

  • So you're making rogue how to play guides when you can't even play right yourself? You're clicking and keyboard turning. At least take out your mouse cursor so you can't embarrass yourself as much. FFS.

  • @MrKenneththeboss Wow, such an original comment. I'm honestly not embarrassed about it. It doesn't keep me from pwning the shit out of ppl on a regular basis. If haters are gunna hate the video for one minor detail that doesn't even matter then they are free to do so on their own spite.

  • @0Exitus No keybindings isn't a minor detail. He could've been nicer about it sure.. but honestly dude.. you REALLY need keybindings. I use to click for rogue too.. lmao.. back in the day. I SUCKED to what I am now. No no.. don't go keybind all your skills at once. Keybind 3 at a time, then get used to those. Then keybind the next 3. It takes practice and memory to memorize them. Your skill and speed will go through the roof as soon as you do this.. but until then.. have fun being average.Part 1

  • @0Exitus For keybindings, I suggest not keybinding anything right of 6,Y,H,N on your keyboard. You can also combine things for keybindings with Shift/Ctrl/Alt, my vanish is Shift-R, not plain ol' 2. I'm sincerely not trying to be mean.. more like constructive criticism. Because when it comes down to it, I can cloak/vanish/premed/reopen/dis­mantle/shadow dance, a hell of a lot faster then you could ever click. Try keybindings man, you'll love em.

  • @aj42311 This is the point I'm trying to make.. I'm already aware of this lol. I only had 2 or 3 moves in this video not keybound because I was getting used to it a bit. But now every single move has a key binding.

  • @0Exitus I actually see 9. Cloak/Vanish/Stealth/Premed/Sp­rint/CR/Human Racial/Trinket/Shadow Dance. I've watched your videos, you sound smart, and I'm assuming you are, dumb people don't use the word "mitigation". Being stupid is not going to be your problem for PvP, being stubborn will be however.

    And you're right, not every skill has to be keybinded. Just the important ones do. Vanish is an important PvP skill.. pickpocket and feint are not.

  • @aj42311 True, Vanish actually didn't have a key binding for a while because when I first got to high level I was more of a pve guy, so I never used it :| but it ended up getting Shift-V in the end lol.

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  • @maiwandol idontcareidontcareidontcareido­ntcareidontcare

  • did you not watch your vid before you upload it ?

    the music is louder than your voice.. ffs

  • @SaulMeyersz I'm assuming you watched my last video. But the last video is no this video. The music is not louder than my voice on this one. At least comment on the correct video if you're going to criticize it.

  • @0Exitus in all honestly go watch your own vid again.

  • @SaulMeyersz In all honesty I watched it again and still have no idea what you're talking about. The only part where it even comes close to drowning my voice is 5:40 and you can still hear what I'm saying very clearly. Please point out to me which part you think is drowned out, because I watched it over and over and can hear myself just fine.

  • @SaulMeyersz playsstation childs

    

  • clicker )

  • @trueheephop genius

  • aw3some video dude. can u give us some tips about addons and macros?

  • Thanks for the guide.

    Back to WoW after 2 years, so this was a great way to catch up on things.

  • @PassusPkz Welcome back then :)

  • Check out my version of this video here /watch?v=TtUCk_hiPXU

  • @Noobishrogue I'm not judging your vids, but please stop going on to my vids and advertising to people to watch your vids. It's like watching people showing their decks of some card game to eachother because they were invited to, then you grab your deck to get in their faces and say "LOOK AT MINE. MINE'S BETTER AND NEWER." it's just rude. And before you say "Mine is updated for 4.3", nothing at all changed for rogues in 4.3 except for a heal-cutting buff that nearly every class got

  • @0Exitus Im not meaning to be rude at all but the video is a little out of date and im not at all saying your videos suck sorry if i offended you

  • can u use like a mace or axe 2.6 speed mainhand? and a 1.4 speed dagger

  • @bigdipps96 well yeah, but you can only get away with using hemorrhage spec if you're going to do that. If you are a human, orc, or a race that benefits from another weapon like that, then it's definitely an option.

  • Nice explanations

  • This really helped. Thanks for all the tips :)

  • Hey thanks so much for this video. I feel like my pvp is improved a lot already. Just wondering if you changed race and or servers. I can't find you in the wow arm.

  • @TylerRedmann the i in my name is weird. It's a special character used by holding alt, pressing 1-4-1 on the num pad in that order, then releasing.

  • giving tips but you click some moves.. right..

  • @2samski Yeah, I clicked some moves in this video. But it's alot better than making a comment that 10 other people already stated for a video I made perfectly clear is purely informational.

  • Well I would of watched this but then I realized you were alliance

  • @Silentshank247 Most of the best rogues are alliance. Most of those rogues really don't care about faction.

  • @Silentshank247 lol had the same idea xD

  • wat realm r u on

  • @treyswaqqer alot of them, spend most of my time with family on nazjatar though

  • @0Exitus Hey can i get a link to youre armory plz.

  • Very good video and extremelly helpfull!!!

  • You're a pro clicker :P (Absolute Compliment)

  • awesome post Thanks

    

  • Kinda fail . . he uses Quickning instead of improved recuperation . .

  • @kardy3 Umm what? Go watch streams of legitimate pros using Quickening over Improved recup and make the same comment and see how well that goes. I get it for the movement with a little bit of healing, because without it, just about every class can outrun us.

  • @0Exitus well i prefer getting less damage, alot better for rogues in arenas at my POV and there are 2.5k rated guys using improved recup .

    Depends on your playstyle and setup .

    I still prefer improved recup =)

  • @kardy3 most of those 2.5k rated guys using improved recup are also running hemo spec, so they have the luxury of using both. But I don't watch 2.5k streams. I watch most of Neilyo's streams/videos, whose rating is over 3k. If you would rather use imrpoved recup for slightly better healing and a noticeable damage mitigation bonus, go for it. If it fits you, there is no reason to not use it :)

  • @0Exitus better answer that vennor128 wich was " your retarded "

    Yeah i prefer watch 2.5k rated , since i learn more from them, maybe after i reach 2.5k i will start watching 3k =) ty

  • @kardy3 Your retarded.

  • @vennor128 Nice coment from a fatass guy . Next time try to explain ur POV instead of calling "retarded" to other people . ..

    Stay cool =)

    and please dont answer back cba to talk to you again =)

  • @kardy3 my POV is that Quickening is a must for any sub rogue that plans to pvp. sure there may be some people that do imp recup instead of quickening but like you said. that is there personal preference. if you really dissect them both quickening would come out on top. 20% increased healing is nothing to scuff at. doesn't matter if you are doing bgs or arenas. it is very helpful. plus the 15% movement speed bonus is really nice since you don't have to enchant your boots with any type of speed..

  • @kardy3 ..increase, so you can use +35 agi to your boots, which would be more overall dmg. but then again it is all personal preference. its just like rogues reforging to expertise, like i do. sure i can get more dmg with crit. but in RBGs and arenas, with feral druids and other classes that tend to dodge and parry my attacks, it is really helpful. just my thought on getting Quickening over recup. hope it helped and didn't mean to call you retarded. i just can't see pvp w/o it.

  • Can you tell me how to set up my mikscrollingtxt like yours?

  • @TShaw409 Sure, check your messages.

  • Can you tell me the macro you used at "R" but also "-" :-)

  • @Phreq1337 R for me is recuperate. Shift-R is the Macro that begins Shadow Dance and my agility trinket.

    #showtooltop Shadow Dance

    /cast [put the name of the trinket here];

    /cast Shadow Dance;

  • @0Exitus thanks, man.

  • well met Sensei :), After the 4.3 came i really do less damage is that true or is it just me?

  • @Zille7909 I'm 99% sure it's just you. Although now that anyone can get Ruthless gear with honor, I think people may have just geared up a bit.

  • @0Exitus Well okey, then i will do my best and gear up... thank you for fast answer!

  • how are you critting 40k? etc

  • @xZeTxFaTaL Both of my agility trinkets went off at the same time.

  • this was helpful, i got the game a couple months ago and made a rogue. i'm lvl75 atm but when i hit 85 i will be coming back to this vid to help get better at pvp :)

  • will u make a 4.3 video?

  • @DevilsKillerx I actually just started getting footage for 4.3 before it was even released after I saw they were going to do nothing to change rogues for 4.3. So yes expect a 4.3 video.

  • ok, so now i know how rogues rape me so hard... no more ragequit for me, u saved my keyboard a lot of beating, ty. Now to build a sub rogue.... 0.o

  • @KuKoKaNuKo Yeah, Rogues will go to town on your anus if you aren't geared. Like Youtube did when they decided to change everything..

  • hey what addons do you use?

  • @dallascowboys1123 Just recount and mikscrollingbattletext

  • Great video ! Can you tell me how to setup MikScrollingBattleTExt, to like like this ? I have it , but it is toooo much numbers poping,.. I cant follow up my abilities crits :D

  • @markostojanovic1 Oh yeah sure thing dude. But check your messages because it's kind of long for a comment lol.

  • Nice vid. Just reactivated my account today to see if I WoW interest me anymore. Started leveling a rogue and it is quite fun.

  • 3:15

    Like. A. Boss.

  • @JimTheGreenHat I'm caught between replying "Like. A. Rogue." and "AND NOT A SINGLE FUCK WAS GIVEN THAT DAY."

  • You really inspirated me to lvl my rogue, it's currently at lvl 70 but thx alot! :D

  • @HenkeCoD Glad it helped you!

  • Also your addons seems pretty legit. i like the scrolling text one about how much damage and what hits you, what addon is that? :)

  • @Dblakley2012 Mikscrollingbattletext.

  • Oh and could you tell us what enchants to use? As well as which daggers go where, slow mainhand fast offhand and poisons ? Thanks.

  • @domebrahimsober Always put the slower weapon in the main-hand. I use a Landslide enchant and weapon chain, although if you're gear is really up there statistically a hurricane enchant is better (although in experience it really doesn't matter now since the Hurricane can't proc more than once off the same weapon anymore). I am Exitus on Nazjatar, a generally empty server :|

  • @domebrahimsober Also, wound/mind numbing poison on the main-hand and crippling offhand are what I normally use.

  • very helpful video! thanks for sharing. What is your username/server ?

  • Great vid man, got back to wow a few weeks ago and this vid turned out to be super helpful! Thanks!

  • @feelAnalytic Thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving (assuming you celebrate it)!

  • What all abilities do you have in youe ShadowDance bar? i cant see most of them haha

  • @Dblakley2012 In order they are Ambush, Hemorrhage (incase positioning fails), Eviscerate, Cheap Shot, Garrote.

  • @0Exitus Thanks a lot man!

  • YEAH THIS WAS EPIC...DUDE YOU INSPIRED ME TO BACK ON MY OLD ROGUE.... I DIDNT PLAYED FOR YEARS WITH HIM...

  • clickerz r kewl

  • Awsome Vid. But why are you using backstab? thugt ambush was better.... just a question. I my selfe are not a pro rouge, just in lvl 53. I use ambush insted of backstab, but is realy backstab better that ambush?

  • @MrThaGamer628 Ambush is no different from backstab, except Ambush can only be used from stealth if you don't have shadow dance turned on. Damage wise backstab does slightly more, except ambush generates another combo point and activates Find Weakness.

  • Thanks =) for helping

    

  • WE WILL EAT YOU!

  • @Endure28 THEN DIGEST YOU SLOWLY! THEN INEVITABLY EXCRETE YOU AFTER SUFFERING MAJOR INDIGESTION!

  • @0Exitus <3

  • this is indeed an epic video

  • Just curious what addon are you using that shows the abilities icon next to the damage it is dealing just came back from a 8 month break and wana get back into playing my rogue just looking for some addons for it

    also great vid you are very talented in pvp :)

  • @TimecopSticks I am using mikscrollingtext. It normally isn't considered necessary but it's always good to know what is doing the damage to you, and let's me know if my CoS successfully resisted a fear (psychic scream being the main one).

  • uh whut!? LOL

  • TY TY TY TY! only person that actually knows what a spec is and shows rogues and what to do. I love mercader but all he does is shows pvp he doesnt help us ty

  • @SnootyMinotaur yeah its to bad mercader isnt even that good, dara mactire vids are brought to you by pocket heals >.>

  • @Trigr123 Hey hey now, Mercader is pretty good. But unfortunately his videos have been suffering lately. Before, he would tell you the "hows" and the "whys" from his point of view, whereas now he sometimes makes attempts at them, but is essentially just trying to show off.

  • Most definetly an epic production, favourited and i'll be using this as i level my rogue, keep up the good work bro!

  • Nice

  • You... Are... AMAZING!

  • @WorkingAtWoolies So are you for saying so :D

  • thank you i like it

  • After watching this video, especially your cc = heals part, my game has improved drastically, I always been pure pve so generally sucky at pvp, but now i hardly die at all in BG's so i can stab more. Mad skills bro, keep up it for the rogue brotherhood!

  • @scollzero For the Rogue Brotherhood!

  • 3:15 to 3:48 was one of situations why i love rogue! Nice one!

    BTW ty for comments!

  • @Drizzdify yeah that's fucking amazing, wish I was that good :(

  • 4:51 Watch the rogue's health drop like a rock lol nice vid man keep them coming.

  • Awesome bro. c:

  • wait wait so after i use premeditation what do i do :O ? sorry didnt hear u good sorry D:

  • @danger2231 Oh that's alright good sir. After you apply premeditation wait just about 18 seconds, use the 2 points from it to apply either recuperate or slice n' dice, then apply premeditation again and apply whichever one isn't active and begin your opener. Hope that helps :)

  • Agreed with the CC aprts, I'ma cc rogue myself cause dmg ain't my thing, but if u're a healer....lol u ain't getting away XD

  • Damn, you really got shit locked down, finally somebody who knows their class, well done.

  • @Xivate I have noticed :D, as of a few days again I stopped using ctrl as my push-to-talk to make room for more key bindings. Still getting used to it but I'm seeing a little improvement in some areas so far.

  • nice guide:) ...keep it up:)

  • YOU TALK LIKE A FUCKIN VALLEY GIRL...SHUT...THE...FUCK....UP

  • @DoogesR1 Ever try the mute button? Or just not watching it? Or your medicine?

  • @0Exitus im imagining you saying this to me with your fucking pathetic voice, ending the sentences on an upnote. Now im imagining me punching you right in your mouth.

  • @DoogesR1 Why are you so angry? My voice is annoying, I even said in the description my voice is annoying. But this video is not about my voice, it's about rogue tips. Either take the video for what it was intended to be or don't watch it.

  • Ok first off im not trolling or flaming you but why would you put three points in honor among thieves unless your one of them scrub rogues that i see most of the time who just sit in stealth and wait till there enemy is low hp then you strike then GG with that talent and to be quite frank cataclysm pvp is fucked up so why wouldent you put your points more towards survival, i can see why backstab would be better but still it costs more and does almost the same damage as hemo.

  • @FeletanProductions Well thank you for making it clear you are not flaming/trolling :) but to answer your question I have actually tried putting a single point in HaT, and even 2 points. Sometimes in both arena and BG settings it didn't go off when I wanted it to. I don't really do it for the chance of getting a combo point, but more to reduce the cooldown on how often I get them from it. Even in arena, a critical heal from your partner will get you a combo point on your target :)

  • it was cool :)... im gonna use those tricks to kick ass in pvp.

  • Lol out of keys to press, you are aware thats impossible right ? You sir, are a bad.

  • @youbet2011 umm it is very much possible. 1-5 and shift 3-5 (you try and hit shift 1-2 and not break your hand), f, g, c, x, a, d, t, r and s, and shift of all of those. 25 buttons. Every single one of them has a key binding. I don't know about you but I'm not going to reach all the way across my keyboard to hit p or literally break my hand just so I can cloak out. So go ahead, make fun of the fact I click 4 out of the 29 functions and macros I use. I honestly don't care.

  • @0Exitus Shift F G C X A and control 1 2 3 4 5 etc man there is ALOT more keybinds than you can have.. can even use alt

  • @TheFawmaw Like I said, every single one has a function (although there are more now than there are in this video). Let me put it this way: Yes I'm a former clicker, and I'm slowly breaking the habit. This very second there are only 4 buttons right now that don't have a key bindings. I tried using alt but it was uncomfortable because my thumbs are double jointed. Now Ctrl I can get more off of, but I use it for push-to-talk. But lately I've been thinking of just using ctrl anyway.

  • I liked it :D

  • @Tartonga Yay :D

  • Faved the vid :)

  • @MeleeHuntard So I'm the noob, and you still referred to my racial as a trinket. I click 4 circumstantial cooldown moves because I'm out of buttons to press. Sorry I don't have a professional WoW mouse and keyboard. Please troll somewhere else.

  • @MeleeHuntard yeah, I click my pvp trinket. I'm human, but I click my pvp trinket. My activatable agility trinket is keybound to my shadowdance, and the other one goes off automatically, but I click my pvp trinket. I'm guessing you mean my racial, and the fact you are referring to it as my pvp trinket some how makes me the noob.

  • Whats best race for alliance rogues night elf or worgen?

  • @xNeonPandax Humans are the favored class for rogues on the alliance. They have one of the more powerful active racials (although their passive racials suck). Worgen have the active speed boost making it easier for them to stick to targets and they take reduced shadow and nature damage, and their +1% crit chance compliments them. Night Elves are a little harder to hit, move faster in stealth and take reduced nature damage. Gnomes also have a nice active Racial and dagger expertise. Up to you.

  • Man you got insane skills

  • @einherje71 thank you sir

  • Clicking o.o? wtf dude?

  • @MultiDJSUp I click 2 cooldown moves.. I don't have much more room on my keyboard. But it's only preparation and vanish (but in some of the footage you can see fan of knives is keybound to s where in other clips it is not). Cloak of Shadows I also click but it's also built into a bunch of other macros that ARE keybound so it isn't really a huge problem.

  • Like the vids kept up the good work

  • You do more dmg on dummies because they have no resil but what's an easier spec hemo or backstab?

  • @bschale We can always assume that in live pvp situations that damage on dummies will be reduced by another 40% in pvp, that is the general statistic. But if you want an easy spec, go Hemorrhage. You get much greater healing and you don't have to worry about position requirements. Backstab is just more fun and is easier to kill targets.

  • LOL to awesome YOU MUST YOU MUST SKILL OF NIGHTSTEP WHEN YOU ARE A PvP player YOU MUST

  • @0nexy I'm assuming Nightstep is a player.. I'm sorry I do not know him/her :P

  • By the way. It would not hurt if u mad