hahahaha ini mbah yang masuk kandang yah... sayang tni akhirnya ga berpihak pada industri nasional... yang ada malah sistem suspensinya diadopsi jackal...
Diskriminasi resmi sih setahu saya tidak ada; dalam artian, tidak ada larangan untuk orang Kristen atau keturunan Tionghoa untuk masuk TNI. Saya kurang tahu ya kalau ada persyaratan tambahan untuk bisa masuk, seperti misalnya persyaratan tambahan untuk membuat KTP; seperti bukti kewarganegaraan atau surat pernyataan penolakan kewarganegaraan Cina peninggalan masa dwi-kewarganegaraan di tahun 50-an.
Walaupun begitu, entah kenapa memang orang keturunan itu, kalaupun ada, sejarahnya memang tidak banyak yang bekerja di instansi pemerintahan atau ketentaraan. Maklum, memang ada ketidaksenangan atas warga keturunan sisa-sisa Sukarno peninggalan tahun 50-an karena kesenjangan ekonomi setelah kemerdekaan yang kemudian semakin dipupuk oleh Suharto atas dalih memerangi bahaya komunisme. Tetapi sekarang negara kita sudah lebih terbuka (walaupun masih banyak yang belum sempurna), coba saja! Sukses ya!
@SamuelSanjayaAlman uda gaka da diskriminasi gan, sok aja coba.. kalo lulus test ya bisa.. mu chinese, arab, atau makluk luar angkasa kalipun kalo uda maup hidu matinya buat NKRI dan lulus persyaratan ya pasti diterima gan :) dan diksriminasi sosial di TNI kagak ada karena keturunan, yang ada karena kepangkatan doang, haha :D
Eeeh tentara malingsia pakai sarung gimana mo perang kl pakai sarung ha.ha. Jangan2 sarung hasil curian jg! Udah belajar nembak belum? Tentara banci ha.ha.
Kalau tuan-tuan dan puan-puan dari Malaysia lebih "pandai", kenapa tuan-tuan dan nyonya-nyonya "bodoh" dari Indonesia yang pertama membuat truk ini di Asia Tenggara?? Kelihatannya yang bodoh itu negara awak.
Leyland DAF NV supplies the cabin but the suspension system seemed to be indegenous. The whole truck is built around the suspension. Other components like engine and gearbox utilised third-party components that are license-built.
Haha, you were a slave nation too until around 60 years ago you idiot. And your country attained independence a good 12 years after Indonesia did. Furthermore, you got it out of lazy negotiations with the British who practically gave it away for free due to the pressure of decolonisation in the mid 50s-early 60s; Indonesia had to survive 2 fierce aggressions by the Dutch in '47 and '49, and a shrewd diplomacy in the still infant United Nations to attain its independence.
I thought you guys don't eat pork?? Why would you need these trucks to transport pigs...oh I see, you diam diam eat pork also haaa, hahaha!!! It's okay, pork tastes good. You should broaden your horizon....
Local content maksudnya?? Kurang tau ya. Sebagian besar teknologinya lisensi, tapi kendaraannya 100% baru. Mungkin di vidionya diberi tahu, coba tonton lagi. Saya yakin kandungan lokal, material dan produksi, diatas 50%. Siapa yang lebih tahu, tolong koreksi.
The only time I've seen them out was in 1998, during the Asian Economic Crisis. The capital was in lockdown due to massive riots and looting. These monsters were put in intersections, suburbs, and close to buildings like shopping centres and the like, to maintain order and deter criminal/unlawful acts, and as a show of force; it became mobile bunker or security checkpoints for the soldiers. That is the highest tactical value they had! XD
Indonesians don't actually have Main Battle Tank as such. Due to the geographical conditions; an archipelago, numerous small islands, soft grounds, a "wet" (monsoon) country, hilly and densely forested region, roading infrastructures that do not handle weights beyond 40 tonnes, all this eliminate the needs for any MBT needs, at least in the strictest term of vehicle tonnage. Having said that, Indonesian Army does operate T-55 tanks.
I think many of them may have been received between the late 50s to late 60s, when Indonesia was very close to the Soviet Union. It has had some upgrades and refurbishments over the years but it still has low tactical values in the Indonesian Army doctrine. As far as I know, all of them are garrisoned in Java (the biggest and most populated island), most are in service in mechanised corps stationed around the capital in Jakarta (in Java); obviously for strategic reasons.
Hacer El Amor,NO GUERRA!
daddyjankie 2 weeks ago in playlist Military Vehicles of the World
@daddyjankie
Mi amigo, para alcanzar la paz hay que estar preparado para la guerra. :)
DanieruShidebuteru 1 week ago
hahahaha ini mbah yang masuk kandang yah... sayang tni akhirnya ga berpihak pada industri nasional... yang ada malah sistem suspensinya diadopsi jackal...
indonesiarayas2 3 months ago
gw mau nanya nih..
gw org keturunan cina/kristen
gw mau ngabdi buat negara gw, gw mau masuk TNI AD
kira-kira ada diskriminasi sosial gk ?
SamuelSanjayaAlman 4 months ago
@SamuelSanjayaAlman
Diskriminasi resmi sih setahu saya tidak ada; dalam artian, tidak ada larangan untuk orang Kristen atau keturunan Tionghoa untuk masuk TNI. Saya kurang tahu ya kalau ada persyaratan tambahan untuk bisa masuk, seperti misalnya persyaratan tambahan untuk membuat KTP; seperti bukti kewarganegaraan atau surat pernyataan penolakan kewarganegaraan Cina peninggalan masa dwi-kewarganegaraan di tahun 50-an.
DanieruShidebuteru 4 months ago
Walaupun begitu, entah kenapa memang orang keturunan itu, kalaupun ada, sejarahnya memang tidak banyak yang bekerja di instansi pemerintahan atau ketentaraan. Maklum, memang ada ketidaksenangan atas warga keturunan sisa-sisa Sukarno peninggalan tahun 50-an karena kesenjangan ekonomi setelah kemerdekaan yang kemudian semakin dipupuk oleh Suharto atas dalih memerangi bahaya komunisme. Tetapi sekarang negara kita sudah lebih terbuka (walaupun masih banyak yang belum sempurna), coba saja! Sukses ya!
DanieruShidebuteru 4 months ago
@SamuelSanjayaAlman uda gaka da diskriminasi gan, sok aja coba.. kalo lulus test ya bisa.. mu chinese, arab, atau makluk luar angkasa kalipun kalo uda maup hidu matinya buat NKRI dan lulus persyaratan ya pasti diterima gan :) dan diksriminasi sosial di TNI kagak ada karena keturunan, yang ada karena kepangkatan doang, haha :D
alayersful 2 months ago
MANTAP Indonesia
afreyandi 7 months ago
beda perusahaan yah sama Rantis Gudel Indonesia ??
kanazef 1 year ago
orang2 malayshit..ngomong kayak beruk..aja..wkwkwkwk.
TheIndonesiajaya 1 year ago
Eeeh tentara malingsia pakai sarung gimana mo perang kl pakai sarung ha.ha. Jangan2 sarung hasil curian jg! Udah belajar nembak belum? Tentara banci ha.ha.
TheHermawan72 1 year ago
lori bodoh ni pun nak masuk news..hahaha phew~ :P
GoDbLeSsinSX 1 year ago
@GoDbLeSsinSX
Kalau tuan-tuan dan puan-puan dari Malaysia lebih "pandai", kenapa tuan-tuan dan nyonya-nyonya "bodoh" dari Indonesia yang pertama membuat truk ini di Asia Tenggara?? Kelihatannya yang bodoh itu negara awak.
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago 5
@GoDbLeSsinSX
kalau di negara kau ,yang masuk news itu film tak betul ya?
leopardsquad 1 year ago
@GoDbLeSsinSX jealous hahahahahaha no malingsia company can build it
jengkollovers 1 year ago
@GoDbLeSsinSX
Lorry is a spesific word used by the brits and his bitches :p
deestilo 9 months ago
@deestilo
HUS!!! Jangan begitu ahh.... :D
DanieruShidebuteru 8 months ago
Pak saya ingin jadi TNI
saya tidak punya dana untuk daftar
ajialim4 1 year ago
good job bro!
mulubt 1 year ago
It seems a independent suspension Leyland.
leuhome 1 year ago
@leuhome
Leyland DAF NV supplies the cabin but the suspension system seemed to be indegenous. The whole truck is built around the suspension. Other components like engine and gearbox utilised third-party components that are license-built.
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago
indon emang goblok ...
IndonGoblok 1 year ago
@IndonGoblok
I don't see your people making anything like this, neither did you build your own APCs. But I heard you bought some APC though, FROM US! Hahaha....
DanieruShidebuteru 8 months ago
ini lori pasir lah banyak kat malaysia ha ha ha kereta tempur? fucking indonesians you will always be a slave nation
raypatrickeye 1 year ago
@raypatrickeye
Haha, you were a slave nation too until around 60 years ago you idiot. And your country attained independence a good 12 years after Indonesia did. Furthermore, you got it out of lazy negotiations with the British who practically gave it away for free due to the pressure of decolonisation in the mid 50s-early 60s; Indonesia had to survive 2 fierce aggressions by the Dutch in '47 and '49, and a shrewd diplomacy in the still infant United Nations to attain its independence.
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago 6
good luck indonesia .. like this
papizoel 1 year ago
kalau wat keluar lori ayam ni nak wat ap?ingat wat tank hahahah
sodierof4tune 1 year ago
@sodierof4tune
Eh, ada Malingsia....
Scouting for military ideas to steal?? Hehehe....
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago
@DanieruShidebuteru hahah trak ni bawak babi aja disini hahaha
sodierof4tune 1 year ago
@sodierof4tune
I thought you guys don't eat pork?? Why would you need these trucks to transport pigs...oh I see, you diam diam eat pork also haaa, hahaha!!! It's okay, pork tastes good. You should broaden your horizon....
DanieruShidebuteru 8 months ago
berapa % local intent nya ?
telebusu 1 year ago
@telebusu
Local content maksudnya?? Kurang tau ya. Sebagian besar teknologinya lisensi, tapi kendaraannya 100% baru. Mungkin di vidionya diberi tahu, coba tonton lagi. Saya yakin kandungan lokal, material dan produksi, diatas 50%. Siapa yang lebih tahu, tolong koreksi.
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago
hiduppppppppppppp indonesia..AYOOO INDONESIA..SHOW TO WORLD UR TALENT.. :) ! PROUD TO BE INDONESIAN :)
kanazef 1 year ago
amerika bisa perang jika ada teknologi
jika di berikan peralatan minim
mereka hanya bisa diam
karena mereka sudah di biasakan dimanja dengan peralatan canggih
negara kita dengan peratalan minim tapi bisa masuk ke dalam 3 tentara terbaik di dunia
TheAlvin96 1 year ago
menurut saya, cocoknya MBT di alokasikan di daerah kota2 besar...
nyipnyop 2 years ago
wOw Hebaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! :thumbup:
jihan1984 2 years ago
Hidup buatan Indonesia!!!
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
The only time I've seen them out was in 1998, during the Asian Economic Crisis. The capital was in lockdown due to massive riots and looting. These monsters were put in intersections, suburbs, and close to buildings like shopping centres and the like, to maintain order and deter criminal/unlawful acts, and as a show of force; it became mobile bunker or security checkpoints for the soldiers. That is the highest tactical value they had! XD
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
Here are the lists of all armoured tactical vehicles the Indonesian military has, many fulfills MBT roles as substitutes:
Main Battle Tanks:
T-55: Unknown
Light Tanks:
AMX-13: 275
Ampibious Tanks
PT-76: 170
BMP-2: 30
BMP-3: 20
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
@DanieruShidebuteru T 55 dah ketinggalan zaman la layaknya disimpan dalam muzium saja.tQ
sodierof4tune 1 year ago
@sodierof4tune
Tua tapi masih bergigi, tuan. Lagipula tidak ada nilai taktis tersendiri untuk memiliki Tank2 berat, lanskap Indonesia tidak mendukung.
Terimakasih atas komennya.
DanieruShidebuteru 1 year ago
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
Indigenously-produced APCs (by PT PINDAD):
Pindad Panser "Anoa" APS V-1: 154
Pindad APR V-1: 14
Pindad P2 "Kougar": Unknown
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
Indonesians don't actually have Main Battle Tank as such. Due to the geographical conditions; an archipelago, numerous small islands, soft grounds, a "wet" (monsoon) country, hilly and densely forested region, roading infrastructures that do not handle weights beyond 40 tonnes, all this eliminate the needs for any MBT needs, at least in the strictest term of vehicle tonnage. Having said that, Indonesian Army does operate T-55 tanks.
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
I think many of them may have been received between the late 50s to late 60s, when Indonesia was very close to the Soviet Union. It has had some upgrades and refurbishments over the years but it still has low tactical values in the Indonesian Army doctrine. As far as I know, all of them are garrisoned in Java (the biggest and most populated island), most are in service in mechanised corps stationed around the capital in Jakarta (in Java); obviously for strategic reasons.
DanieruShidebuteru 2 years ago
Baru tau ada yang bisa bawa roket juga
dakdigdug 2 years ago