The man in the black and white picture is not george orwell, he is a look a like. On the back of my edition of Nineteen Eighty Four there is a full print of Orwell and that man is not Orwell. It must be a conspiracy.
@pdderek, AND YOU WANNA SAY THAT THE PEOPLE ON THESE PLANES THAT WERE HIJACKED WERE FAKE? YEAH OKAY GO AHEAD AND TELL MY BEST FRIENDS FAMILY THAT HER FATHER DYING ON THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON WAS FAKE! GO LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MESSAGE HE LEFT FOR HIS FAMILY MINUTES BEFORE HE DIED. EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME AND THE REST OF AMERICA YOU STUPID LIBERAL FUCK!
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx What was the person's name? May I listen to it? You should encourage her to release the audio so that you can dispell this "movement" with actual evidence rather than just shouting like a 10 year old girl who can't have the cookie she wants.
No photographic evidence of a plane PLUS radar operators and pilots saying 757's can't fly that way tells me there wasn't a plane...It's just evidence I want. YOU apparently have it and won't share it.
@pdderek you want the evidence, fine. go right ahead. personal message me on here and ill give you her name and your ignorant ass can ask her yourself for it. once again a liberal asshole who thinks hes right.
@pdderek, excuse me for actually being offended by people saying that 9/11 was a conspiracy theory when i was a mother fucking first responder from the NYPD and saving all your mother fucking asses from getting killed and living under osama bin ladens rule!! seriously, unless you actually experienced the horror of this event just do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx no one called your bravery into question. Thank you for helping that day.
Your service has NOTHING to do with who actually perpetrated the attacks however. I'm sorry if you can't seperate the two.
Either way it was Americans dying and was a tragedy. It's odd that you all are so angry just because we don't "believe" the accepted account of what happened.
Not believing the official story has nothing to do with your service that day and on the days after.
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx I don't believe Osama had anything to do with 9/11 so you can shove that logic wherever you care to keep it. It's up to you to decide whether you believe that CNN could find that mother fucker when we, the combined intelligence forces of USA and EUROPE couldn't find him...believe what you want.
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx Any American who understands his country's values would never tell someone to shut the fuck up about a subject that, according to my frame of thought, is to this day robbing Americans of Soldiers' lives, our tax dollars, and most importantly, our constitutional freedoms.
The more you perpetuate an attitude of BLIND HATE and UNRELENTING CERTAINTY the more you allow the government to control us.
Try to realize "truthers" believe were looking for TRUTH. We'll stop when found
@pdderek no no no....im telling you to stfu because you have no first hand experience of 9/11. you werent there risking YOUR LIFE for the rest of our country, you werent away from your family for months at a time trying to find people that were still alive under all the mess at ground zero, you werent there breathing in all the debri and risking your own health to help others. you have no idea what myself and hundreds of other first responders went through after 9/11. many of us have horrible
@pdderek health risks now bc of it. you dont know ANYTHING about saving our country! we are fighting back bc if we dont, as a country, we seem weak! and yes, soldiers lives are on the line but guess what, IT WAS THEIR CHOICE TO DO THIS FOR THEIR COUNTRY! nobody told them to put their lives on the line. they feel thats how they want to give back to our country. i lost many friends due to 9/11 and friends overseas fighting for mine and YOUR FREEDOM! so when somebody says that this attack was
@pdderek PLANNED by the government, it gets me so fired up because you all are a bunch of liberal fuckheads who dont know SHIT about this subject! why the fuck would it make sense for the government to plan an attack on not only ground zero, but on the pentagon too? like are you fucking joking? do you know how STUPID you sound talking like that? its bc of people like YOU, are the reason we have who we have in office running our country and clearly CANT RUN IT EFFICIENTLY. bc you liberal morons
@pdderek dont have a fucking clue as to how to run a country or fight back for your rights and freedom! guess what babe, as soon as your freedom is gone, youll be BEGGING AND PLEADING TO FIGHT BACK TO GET IT BACK! dont let everyone elses freedom be gone bc you stupid morons dont wanna fight back! how do you think we earned our freedom in this country in the first place? HELLO!!! WORLD WAR 1 & 2! brush up on your american history!
I'm an up and coming rapper and I address this bull shit in several of my songs. Check me out, I'm going to do what I can when I get on to make sure bullshit like this doesn't fly.
Just another video that "asks questions" while stating nothing. Truthers will never make statements because they have no proof or logical arguements, obvioulsy.
This video is just too great! The message reminded me of “Programming the Nation.” Have you seen it? It’s a pretty mind-blowing movie, one of my favorites. It’s all about censorship and being politically active. bit. ly/m4LDUB
Large picture: corporation and all the hollywood bullshit brainwash got us government by the balls by paying them to make a new world order. us officials were too greedy and too blind to resist the temptation and they pushed us army into a conflict that only benefits the corporations and a small number of people in america. Wake up, america! instead of saving the world, save yourself...protecting the jewish is just a patethic reason for us army to be in middle east
ridiculous effort to confuse those who does not know what really happened. These whores are doing the country huge harm. May they all stop being such whores and understand that protecting the real guilty party is treason.
The thing I can't figure out is that W,who was to stupid to tie his own shoes (according to the truly enlightened of the world),was the leader of the most brilliant and effective conspiracy in the history of mankind.
PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING. Government shills have infested Youtube, and wider internet, like rabid rats. They post crap that backs up the government narrative on all sorts of unsavory issues. Ignore them and mock them. They'll be tracked down. They'll soon get their comeuppance and find themesleves doing hard time picking up shower soap! ;-) Shilling for mass murderers online is disgusting and not acceptable. If you can find the heart, then do say a prayer for these MORONS... :-(
Hey guys, just a question for all of you conspiracy theorists. If the government was smart enough to create a scheme to dupe all of you and blow up the WTC out of greed, then don't you think that they'd be smart enough to hide the evidence better? The thing is, the government could have EASILY made it look more "believable" if they wanted to, but they didn't because they didn't do it! You ask questions, which is fine, but most of you don't truly care about the answers...
They didn't need to make 9/11 believable (scientifically) because they knew from decades of dumbing down (fluoride in the water supply and MSG in the food) that the vast majority of American citizens are so apathetic and blindly patriotic that anything the government told them would be the gospel truth.
Just look at the latest bin laden "death" hoax. They couldnt even get the story straight,
and yet we still believe it, even with NO evidence whatsoever!
@SteveFusionX Ok, I'm gonna stop you right there. If fluoride in the water was dumbing us down, why have we not seen a recent dramatic drop in the general population's IQ? Have people stopped graduating college, performing worse on jobs, has science stopped in it's tracks? Seems like this fluoride poisoning is doing a bad job. You guys have the nerve to call others sheeple, but look at the ridiculous things you believe (fluoride, really man?)!
@SteveFusionX Japan retains a higher IQ then America because of a couple of key factors.
1. look at their education system compared to ours, it is cleary superior.
2. Look at their work ethic compared to ours, they work MUCH harder then the average American, and that's not just a stereotype.
3. Japan is predominantly one race, and so are we. Races have slight genetic differences. It has been proven that Asians (even in the US) have higher average IQs then Caucasians.
@SteveFusionX Wrong! IQ is potential, BUT it can be raised through good education. Education often times trains the part of our brain responsible for logic, so IQ does depend on education level to some extent. Also, you failed to see the other post, where I mentioned that Asians in the US have the same IQs as Asians in other countries. Race plays a big role in Why the US has a lower average IQ then Japan.
@SteveFusionX And another thing, even if what you say IS true, wouldn't they count on some people "exposing" them? Yes, you could argue that they know people would assume you're just conspiracy theorists, but when there's enough evidence, conspiracy becomes reality. You would think that they would do a better job, considering that it's the fucking government. And about Osama, a little secret for you. The government WANTS you to think it's a secret, because it's likely a distraction.
@SteveFusionX I don't know weather this is true or not, but it seems like it's falling apart a bit to me. If Osama IS part of the government, then who carried out 9/11 according to you? Did Osama do it, Al-Qaeda? Or do you believe Mossad did it? To be honest, I don't know enough about this conspiracy or 9/11 to refute/accept your claims. I'm merely questioning you to make sure you know what you're talking about. I know a lot of conspiracy nuts that don't even understand the conspiracy theory.
@SteveFusionX Have any of these engineers/architects' claims been through peer review? No, and that's why they're not credible. It doesn't matter whether they're engineers, because the scientific method has NOT been applied to their claims. Not to mention, the host of "debunking" documentaries, which show that the claims many of those architects and engineers make are false. Why don't you watch one of those, rather then more conspiracy movies.
@CommunityCam Listen this was the works of 'The Former President Of The United States George W. Bush' himself. Osama Bin Laden, were infact not a globalized terrorist, but he had family problems, and possibly the family was working out a deal with the U.S Government about oil and stuff.. So this is merely for having a country to blame, which leads you to war and oil (which happens to be found in The Middle East). Or maybe it was for testing the material "Nano-Thermite" which found in the WTC!
im not going into detail but there is so much concrete evidence, from experts around the world, that contradicts the story about the whole 9/11 event given by the government and media. if theres so many flaws in the story then why dont the government investigate it? because they wouldnt investigate their own crime. evidence goes against it, doesnt add up and to top it off after 10 years of hunting bin laden theres no believable evidence of his death but more evidence for a conspiracy.
The LORD jesus wanred us about this day. The anti christ is about to come, the people who control the usa the freemasons and illumanati and jesuits are satan worshippers just look at the dollar bill. They want to make a new world order where satan and the anti christ will be worshiped JESUS wanred us. All bible prophecy points to the pope as the anti christ, the pope is about to bring the world back in the dark ages his jesuits control your economy and the worlds economy they will crash it
@Johnicle2 ..your economy is in recession,my economy is in recession..the few world's billionares' economy isn't....thats how ,they can keep running the oily afghani "war"..maybe soon, and hopefully not, the oily Libyan "war"
larry silverstein is a jew he made money and jews were evacuated before 9/11 happened but non jews were not for obvious reasons, jews are the terror of planet earth not muslims not christians not buddhists, its the jews, get rid of jews no more terror a simple concept
@karibari25 I have yet to see Jewish Terrorist sawing the heads off of captives...on the other hand I have seen "another" religious extreamist sect do many....
@wachaushenzi I have, and yes it's kind of a shity deal they are getting all around. I'm not talking about Hezbula either, I mean the REAL palestinians (look into that if you don't understand what Im talking about).
And as far as I know, Isreal has offered Talks 3 times now and been spurned.
@wachaushenzi Here's the silly thing about this entire arguement they have....
A man sees you don't have a car, yet need to get to work and make money to provide for your family. He gives you one. Later on, another man tells you that the car was stolen from him after he'd stolen it from someone else and demands you give it to him. AND he really hates you, breaking your windows, stealing your mail, ect. Yet does nothing to the man who gave you the car, because he's bigger then you are.
What do you mean official conspiracy theory? Thats the truth. A conspiracy theory is what all you wackos come up with. Because you got nothing better to do. 3,000 people died. You guys are no better than those people who protest soldiers funerals. Show some respect and let go of your hallucinations.
Oh, by the way, if cell phones really could work while the plane was in the air, then the airlines would never have bothered to spend the enormous amount of money it cost, to install seat phones in the first place. Anyone who looks into the actual facts of 9/11 and STILL believes the official story, is either brain-dead or just plain unwilling to admit that the U.S. government is so profoundly evil. Don't hate the deniers; pity them for being so weak-minded and deluded.
@MrVistaCruiser - Mr. Government Troll, you are not fooling anyone. LOL, the official sham is crumbling at FREE FALL SPEED, just as Building 7 did. The government and the media are frantically trying to silence the blatantly obvious truth. Their lies have been exposed. More and more are catching on. And the cornered rat lashes out.
No, I am still not convinced. I just watched a video on "conspiracy theories debunked", and the footage of the collapsing buildings do look demolished. Why would steel supports fall under the weight of floors that supports have been supporting for the previous 30 years?
The Money Masters of this world, the billionaire corporations that control the U. S. government and the military, are behind just about everything, not just 9/11. The people in the U.S. are a bunch of sheep, just as they are elsewhere in other countries around the globe. They do not want to believe that their leaders and the people in charge are corrupt. This is nothing new, it has been happening for centuries. the examples over time are unbelievable....
The government's false flag op. (911) was not pulled off successfully at all. The plane that was supposed to hit tower 7 defected! They had already used the back up military plane on one of the towers (because the second plane defected also) But they were left with a building packed with explosives and no plane to hit it to justify it's collapse. This news of tower 7's plane defecting was what was whispered into bush's ear in the classroom. Bush knew then that they were BUSTED. See it?
@MrVistaCruiser there are no need for insultes... i really dont care what you seem to think about me... you know nothing about me... iam open to an educated discusion but insulting ppl you do not know is not constructive at all... and there are alot of lies they told us.. IF what they said was true why not show the public any pic of the pentagon whenthe plane hit... there was something like 20 diff camras that filmed it. we never seen any of them.. why???
Anyone who thinks the Al Qaede is not a real threat needs to open their eyes and look around. I served in Desert storm and even then the Al Qaede was making threats and we heard pleanty about them over there. I have friends still serving and some have the battle wounds to prove the Al Qaede is real and hates any American. If the truthers get their way we will lower all of our defenses and then where will we be? Who will they blame then? The government for not protecting them?
I admit I do not know how much oil is in the ground but is it worth it in human life and what it would cost in moving a entire army and air force into place? What if the cost out ways the amount of oil?
come talk to me. your the biggest ASSHOLE on here. wtf. are you joking? stfu. they didnt do it on purpose and those were commercial flights asshole. dont fucking talk about shit you dont know about unless you experienced it....and when i say experienced, i mean stfu unless it severely affected you..which obvi it didnt. you arrogant SOB. fuck upp already. btw shave yr face you look like a caveman.
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx (cont) and if you don't believe me, you are welcome to contact AT&T and try and get authorization to recall a phone call made from the Pentagon (which would be very unlikely), which gave some AMERICAN demolition guy the authority to knock down both Trade Centers. I was privileged enough to hear this phone call later (along with 50 other people who earn 100 times what I do), in an unofficial inquest in to what went on that day at the Pentagon.
@WorldSacred What is your job title, what department where you in at the Pentagon, and what is your security clearance level. My last few years in the military I was in and out of the Pentagon and had a close friend who was killed in the attack. I having trouble buying your story about listening to a phone call I doubt took place but if it had you would have never had the security clearance to be in on it. Security at the Pentagon is a lot tighter than you are drawing it out to be.
@LAGunBroker I don't recall ever saying that I had a job in the Pentagon. When I said "working", I did use quotes to emphasise that I did work *with* not not *for* the Pentagon. That's okay, most people (outside my former flatmate, and family) don't believe my story anyway, and most Pentagon employees today probably don't remember seeing me 10 years ago. I didn't get to hear the phone call in question at the time, but I was given a listen to the audio recording years later (2005).
@LAGunBroker I'm aware of the security measures the Pentagon takes. I was given fingerprint and eye scans so that I could be allowed access to certain sections (under supervision) of the Pentagon. This doesn't change the fact that I was in the Pentagon on the day and the days leading up to the S11 attacks. You are free to find the phone call recording from the Pentagon in which a high ranking official gave the order for the WTC demolitions.
@WorldSacred Find the phone records? Without proper security clearance you would have a hard time getting any records for even the pay phones in the Pentagon. You never answered what your security clearance was? Who issued it? How long was it issued for? Saying you were finger printed and "had your eyes scanned" leaves huge holes in your story. What color was your security badge. Your story sounds very made up. What was your job? They're pretty simple questions.
@LAGunBroker I just told you that I didn't have a job in the Pentagon. Not everyone in the Pentagon work for the Pentagon. I wasn't dreaming when I said that I was eyed scanned. I don't give a fuck what the clearance was for. All I remember about the days there was that I was told to show how I did (so and so) SO that they knew how to do (so and so). I'll give you a hint: I was there because I had figured out how to perform out-of-body experiences and then reanimation.
@LAGunBroker Not long after the guy gave the order to have the WTC demolished, the plane hit the Pentagon. In the aftermath, the official went near ballistic and was about to shoot anyone who was foreign.
@WorldSacred What movie are you playing in your head? Bubba! If the phone conversation you claim took place really did, fantasy world, there would be no way you would have been allowed to be in the same room or even building. There was no phone call giving orders to blow the WTC's which means you are either lieing or have made this fantasy life up in your deranged mind. The later in the most likely choice. If your gonna lie try to make it believable.
@LAGunBroker Are you having reading difficulties, moron? I told you that I only heard the phone conversation from an audio recording years after it took place. Nowhere did I state that I witnessed the phone first hand, only that someone else told me that some official was ordering the demolition of the WTCs. But, I did get to hear about this phone conversation in a general inquiry for the people (including me) who were in the Pentagon at the time of the attacks.
@WorldSacred No problems at all, except in believing your story. You were allowed to listen to a phone conversation where officials gave the green light to blow the WTC's? Recording or not how do you explain them allowing you to be included in this? If this tape existed it would be considered SSI and you either would not be allowed to hear it or not allowed to talk about it on here. Your story just doesn't cut it. It's completely made up and you can't answer any of my questions.
@LAGunBroker I don't know if it was a landline call or a cell phone call, but I do know that it did originate FROM the Pentagon by an employee there. So, just because YOU didn't get to hear the call record, then it doesn't exist? A little arrogant isn't it? The reason why I got included in hearing the recording was because I was a witness to an allegation regarding the WTCs demolition. I would write you 500 words on this, but YouTube is only limited.
@WorldSacred You come on here saying you heard a tape giving the green light to blow the buildings but you can't mention the "project" you were working on? Let me explain why your bullshit story pisses me off. A good friend who served with me was stationed at the Pentagon and lost his life the day after from burns he recieved. He left behind a wife and two little girls. When bullshitters like you come on here lieng about being there I have NO use for you. Go tell your lies somewhere else boy.
@LAGunBroker Like I said, I wasn't employed in any project, but more like the guinea pig. You call me a bullshitter, but you expect me to believe your story about you being in the Pentagon and the military. Kind of hard to believe or prove either of our stories, isn't it? Buddha, I have been shot at, beaten by roid-ragers, drugged against my will, knifed, etc., all because your Pentagon employees couldn't be honest about that day. They do that when they want more scapegoats to deflect blame.
@WorldSaced "I was there as a civilian, 'working' with employees of the Pentagon on some minor "project" (that could have been done from my home town), when the attacks were occurring". Your own words. Yes I was a Marine and even though I'm retired I will always be a Marine, and it's not hard for me to prove that. I never worked in the Pentagon, I never even made it past the lowest level of security. I went there four times wrapping up my retirment and visiting my friend.
@LAGunBroker Someone working with someone doesn't mean that they are employed there. Just as someone working with the police to bring down a murderer doesn't mean that they are paid by the police or employed with them. Trust me, I didn't ask to be there, nor was wanting to stay. It's just that certain people found out that I could do something important for the military or hospitals in general. I also have the same difficulties proving that I was at certain other general spots 10 years ago, too.
@WorldSacred Unlike you who is claiming to have worked there, and now your claiming to have been a guinea pig, I haven't made some lavish story of how i was there during the attack or how I was invited to listen to a phone recording that would have been way over you security clearence and pay grade. Now your claiming to have been attacked, drugged, stabbed, beaten and shot because of what you claim to know? Bubba your story gets wilder by the minute. Lets hear more made up bullshit about this
@LAGunBroker Buddha, some people are guinea pigs for scientists because they are immune to AIDS, or certain diseases. I don't know why the Pentagon bothered with me, because there are thousands of people that could do what I could do, that they could have selected. I was invited to listen to a record of a phone call because I was the subject of another phone call from 2 years earlier, which was loosely related to the phone call that the official made about the WTC. Go bother AT&T about this.
@WorldSacred What is this Buddha crap? Now why would I go bother AT&T for a recording of a phone conversation that never existed? One problem with your claim is AT&T doesn't record phone calls, the Pentagon might have, if it had actually taken place.. Also why would the Pentagon ask you to be "their Guinea Pig" when your not even in the US? Your Australian, or at least your profile says you are, unless you were lieing in it also.
@LAGunBroker Weeeell, you're calling me "Bubba", I can call you "Buddha". Yes, I am Australian. Just to add to your so-called bullshit list, I was in the United States illegally.. becaaause there were a number of people who decided they didn't want to bother with stuff like passports and the like just to get me over to a place like the Pentagon so that I could show them how to do (so and so) things that they could have PAID me to do in my own home town.
@LAGunBroker Something I haven't asked you is whether or not you believe that the WTCs were demolished (as per evidenced by video and audio footage), or that the WTCs fell for no scientific reason of its own accord? By the way, some national phone company (no matter who it is) always records EVERY phone conversation.
@WorldSacred The WTC collapsed because of structual damage from the impact and the fires. It has been proven over and over why this happened and how unrealistic the explosive theory is. Do you realize how many charges place perfectly and timed perfectly it would take to do what your saying? Demolition crews spend weeks rigging explosives to drop a building. Explosives by themself will not even drop a building, crews go in and cut key structural supports to aid the explosive.
@LAGunBroker 60 years prior to the WTC attack, a bomber flew in to the Empire State building. The building burnt for hours, yet never collapsed in spite of the impact and fires similar to the ones the WTCs experienced. Secondly, the WTC fell 'clean'. Had it fallen due to structual weakening, then the building would have fallen more on a slant and not straight down. Why is it that the WHOLE building fell and not just the top half. The fires didn't have anything to do with the lower levels.
@WorldSacred So can you explain how crews would be able to enter three buildings as busy as these with all the equipment they would need, cutting rigs (and not small ones), impact hammers to break through the fire bariers around the beams, det cord (miles of it), Blasting caps, radio recievers, and so on. Th comes the question of how did they keep the charges from going off until they were ready? The charges are always radio controlled .
@LAGunBroker Three buildings? I thought there were only two that collapsed from an air attack? If you are referring to WTC7, then that makes the issue more complicated (and harder to deny that the buildings weren't demolished). I would say that the crews went via the elevators or the stairs, and did their extensive work in ways that you or I wouldn't know. A building like the WTC wouldn't fall as the result of a fire whilst other floors remain intact.
@WorldSacred If anyone happens to key a radio on the channel they are using to set off the charges the building would come down prematurely. I witnessed a building being dropped here in New Orleans years ago and the sound of the charges were nothing like on the video, faster and not as loud. This was on a building maybe 8 stories tall. WTC was a lot taller and with all the other noise around you would not hear the charges like the the truthers claim, Now steel breaking and collapsing? Yes
@LAGunBroker I doubt they would leave the instruction manual and equipment lying around for people to use. I wouldn't want to walk in to a building that falls apart at the first plane crashing in to it. Reckon that my house could withstand a plane crashing in to it. Wouldn't have a roof or much of my possessions left, but the rest of it would stand.
@WorldSacred So you think your house could withstand the impact of a 250,000 lb plane going 450-500mph? I know you were being sarcastic but think about the impact this would cause to building, especially a tall building when struck over half way up. The consider the fuel and debris inside the building burning, heating the support beams that have had the fire barrier knocked off by the plane. All this happening in a section support the floors above. Pretty obvious, but planting all those charges?
@LAGunBroker I've seen the footage of the planes flying in to the buildings a dozen or more times over. Not to ignore the severe casualties of the attacks, but when you look at the damage caused, the WTCs could have withstood the plane crashes. Why did the rest of the tower collapse, if it was only one part of the tower that got hit? As for WTC7, why did it fall? Peer pressure?
@WorldSacred How many floors were above were the planes hit? Think about how much weight that was. Now think about the amount of force that would apply on the floors below when those upper floor colapsed. Think of it like a hammer driving a nail. The building was designed to servive interior fires but not after something has knocked the fire proof barrier off the beans. It was designed to take an impact of a plane, but not the impact of a plane, the fire and the impact of the upper floors.
@WorldSacred The ones claiming explosives were used do not take into consideration of all the things that took place in that one incident. Yes the building was built strong but it was designed to only handle so much and there were several forces working against the building which added up to more than it could handle. 7 fell because of damage from the other buidling falling and the fire that was fueled by the gen pack fuel tanks. There plenty of videos explaing it.
@LAGunBroker WTC7 wasn't anywhere near WTC1 and 2 to be damaged enough to warrant a collapse. The buildings stayed up for up to and over an hour's duration. If the towers weren't going to fall as a result of fires in the first few minutes, then there is no reason why it should fall an hour later.
@WorldSacred The fires inside the buildings were not like a cutting tourch puts out, nowhere near as hot. The fire might have reached 300-350 degrees inside the building which would not melt the steel . The longer the support beams were exposed to that heat the weaker they became until they finally gave out. There is no reason why the steel would give out within minutes after being exposed. It took time for the heat to weeaken the beams and for enough of them to give before it all gave out.
@WorldSacred I have watched the videos of the towers colapsing and it looks nothing like a demolition job. Watch any video of a building be blown and you will see the colapse never starts over half way up the building. The demolition teams make the building fall into their own footprint by taking out the part supporting the most weight, the basements.
@LAGunBroker The towers collapsing looked so much like a demolition job, there is no need to speculate otherwise. Why did the tower fall at near free-fall speed, and it fell quite clean. Consider that the planes hit one side of the towers (with the second tower hit at an angle), if it was going to fall, it shouldn't have completely collapsed. We would at best be seeing half a tower each, because the fires didn't impact on the supports below half way.
@WorldSacred Have you been playing with linclon logs? The key beams that supported the towers wer not on the outter edges as you seem to think. The main support beams run up the middle section of the tower and were weakened by the fire. Strange that the experts the truthers quote all the time changed their theory within a few months after making their first guess at what happened. But of course the truthers still use the old theories. Guess the government paid them to change their story
@LAGunBroker to a person like you, patriotism means supporting your goverment no matter what , in all unconstitutional wars whether congress was by passed or not. patiotism means never asking questions or thinking for yourself! excepting what your told and never researching anything you disagree with, just ridicule and dismiss. america is disinigrating in front of your eyes and all idiots like you care about is sports. LA huh? enjoy the radiation.
@scheemadruci I don't remember yanking your chain dumbass. You have no idea of patriotism and your so called research is you looking up bullshit truther stories that have twisted the dacts and deleted the entire story. I haven't seen a truthers story yet where thay didn't leave out sections just to try and make their crap sound true. I research issues but if I post anything with facts to bake it up the truthers start changing the story. Radiation? It's Louisiana dumbass! Not LosAngeles A-Hole
you are the biggest jackass ive ever come across in my life. do you even LIVE in ny? did you KNOW anybody that was involved in the 9/11 attacks? no i dont think so bc if yu did, you wouldnt be rambling about shit that isnt true. like why the FUCK would they "Make It Happen On Purpose" seriously bro? when you have an uncle who died on the plane going into the pentagon and 2 parents working for 4 weeks straight cleaning up the mess of ground zero and family friends who died in the twin towers then
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx I have no idea who you are talking to. Yet, you seem to say that only the people that experienced the attacks should talk. Well, you're in luck. I happened to BE in the Pentagon when it was hit by that plane on S11, 2001. I was there as a civilian, 'working' with employees of the Pentagon on some minor project (that could have been done from my home town), when the attacks were occurring. I had heard another civilian talk about an official ordering the demolishing of the WTC.
@SteveFusionX ER did he get insurance because he was told by his head of security that the towers where open to attack. They where attacked before 9-11
except, maybe, the guys who wrote the 911 Commission report. They were told the answer they had to find, and went ahead and wrote the most amazingly detailed piece of reverse-engineering bullshit on the face of the planet.
actually, more likely they were just told what NOT to find. explosive demolition. make up the rest of the shit as you like, but make it sound convincing. except they failed first time around and had to rewrite shit so Larry would still get his Billions.
@ThePassiveFist I think you should read "Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time" by Michael Shermer.
@SteveFusionX The number of people needed to set up these explosions would be huge. How have they all kept it a secret? Where are the whistle blowers? I know. They don't exist and nor does your pathetic conspiracy. Grow up.
You misquote the "trillions missing" link you posted. Rumsfeld said that by some estimates up to 2-trillion is unaccounted for by the pentagon. He does not say, "TODAY! It was discovered 2trillions went missing"
He was addressing a CHRONIC problem of military spending and you're shaping it as though trillions walked out in brief-cases...Just saying
@001mbuelow don't get me wrong, sir. I do not believe Jet Fuel burned down three buildings. Nor do I believe a Passenger Plane hit the Pentagon ;) I just don't need exageration and hyperbole fucking up other peoples' logical, sound, physics-based arguments and ideas against the accepted theories about 9/11.
@pdderek that one always cracks me up, that the US used 2 jets to crash into WTC1&2, but not the Pentagon. What, did they run out of jets? To think anything other than the truth, which is that Middle Eastern terrorists hijacked our planes and crashed them into our buildings, is just wrong. The other "theories" are not accepted by reasonable people. Just morons who want to blame the US for all of their problems. Which is truely what your "movement" is all about.
@001mbuelow You are stating clearly that questioning the government's official theory is WRONG. Morally WRONG. I must disagree. Tonkin Gulf, sir. No "truther" (if that's what you must call them) believes "USA did this" We believe HIGH LEVEL FED OFFICIALS WERE INVOLVED. No one believes "US-Government" as a whole did this to it's own people.
ANY THEORY which hasn't been DISPROVEN should be considered plausible by "reasonable people"
@pdderek go ahead and ? the govt. the problem is you dont respect the answers. And yes, your movement is clearly stating that the US govt planned this. Just like the rest of you fools, you cloud your accusations with, what about this and what about that. SAY SOMETHING, and try to stand behind it. But you dont because you cant. Never forget, Middle Eastern terrorists hijacked our planes and crashed them into our buildings on Sept. 11th 2001.
@001mbuelow The maneuvers performed by whatever hit the pentagon have been described by commercial+Air Force pilots as nearly impossible even for 20+year veterans. Additionally the air-speed reported at impact is literally IMPOSSIBLE due to air resistance and maintaining 25ft of altitude across 4 football fields is also described as immensely difficult by air-force pilots. Therefore, to my mind it is "wrong" to believe the official report.
@pdderek not "whatever" hit the Pentagon, a hijacked plane hit the Pentagon. And whats so impossible about hitting a small building, its the same as landing on a runway, except those pieces of sh%t didnt land on a runway, they landed in one of our govt buildings. So I ask you, what knocked over all those light poles? Who planted the plane parts within minutes of impact? and dont say they werent there, clearly there was plane debris all over. Who planted the people who witnessed the plane?
@001mbuelow Did you know that 7 of the 19 hijackers have been verified as alive and well in their home countries? Did you also know the FBI refuses to alter their lists even after issuing official apologies?
U are free to believe what you want.
YOU are the one ignoring credible scientific FACT (such as free-fall speeds, Air Resistance, Molten Steel Temperatures) I'd take a second or two before deciding to label someone ELSE a moron because you don't understand elementary physics
@pdderek Here is exactly what makes your "movement" so damaging. Your claim that some of the hijackers are alive and well implys that the passangers on the planes were fakes on some level. Id like to see you explain that to the families of people who died in those planes. And heres what you're purposfully misrepresenting....the FBI list had the wrong names of a few of the hijackers, not that they lied about false hijackers because there werent any. Your movement such BS.
@SteveFusionX Yes, but notice that if he had taken it out earlier, you would still probably be on his ass with your conspiracies. How much time has to pass before we consider it unrelated? A few weeks seems long enough to me, especially considering the fact that if it WAS planned, he would have done it a LONG time ago. Why would he wait until only a couple of weeks before?
@WorldSacred btw it was those fucking muslims that crashed the planes. are you retarded? wow. another dumbass who doesnt know what he's talking about. watch the movie Flight 93 it is all about the planes that went into the twin towers. youll see it was fucking asshole muslims who killed the pilots and didnt answer the radios when the airlines were calling them and they turned the planes around and killed MILLIONS of innocent people. the middle east hates the USA cuz were a free country. moron.
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx First of all, I already know that it was Muslims flying planes in to the buildings. Secondly, lower your sugar intake because you are some hyperactive teen (or someone who acts like one). Thirdly, why bother referencing a movie as evidence for your argument? Seems like you're the moron. So far, no one has been able to dismiss the audio and video evidence that showed that the towers exploding from the inside and then collapsing.
@001mbuelow what's worse...Me questioning an official Government report because it's science is flawed or Hollywood making a profit from a "tragic event in American history"?
@pdderek I gaurantee what your "movement" is doing is far more damaging than hollywood making a buck on the tragedy. BTW, thats the same hollywood that has donated millions to vicitms families and the injured. Ask questions, respect the answers, which you clearly do not do.
DEFEAT TRUTHERS TACTIC #1) When presented with undeniable evidence based in Science simply resort to calling the person's ethical character into question.
You can say what you want but I'm not attacking anyone's family or their family's legacies.
Don't BOTHER communicating with me if you can't dispell these ideas:
Heheh. We can know some things already, people. We are beyond "theory" and into facts: The government science was unscientific. WTC7's freefall means no resistance from the football field-sized floors below for 105 feet (8 stories). It's like a big game of chess, so stop thinking it's so impossible or nefarious. Sheesh. What is good or evil depends on the situation... watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo Let's think a little more logically... watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
MONEY+OIL=BUSH $ 911 $ << was just a simple BIG money making deal , just that simple , BUSH family/and the Binladen family is ALL OIL people , the higher the price . the more CASH for BUSH / many kill for 1,000 dollars , so why not kill for 2 TRILLION dollars??
how could you believe this? if you do you are the dumbest person ever, why would the us government kill their own people???? it does not make sense!!!
600 Muslim died in twin towers, 1,100 those killed in twin towers were foreign nationals. 9/11 hijackers were scapegoat. 9/11 was inside job as a excuse to take over Middle East oil.click Justice party UK.
The idea that a government could do such a thing to it's own people is a difficult thing for most to grasp. If we break down what the government actually is why is it so difficult to believe, subversive, lying, profiteering,minipulating,spying on,and yes in the past killing thier own people. Hardly rainbows and lollipops folks.
The government do not represent you, you live on a piece of land that has been claimed and you pay in for the privilege. Critical thought, use it or lose it.
It's like a big game of chess, so stop thinking it's so impossible or nefarious. Sheesh. What is good or evil depends on the situation... watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo Let's think a little more logically... watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
Do you not think the military have established,created, and invented easier ways of bringing down a building, the military use Thermite in hand grenades add Barium Nitrate and you have a significant option when bringing down a building.
Proof you shout!
As any man who knows will tell you when the people who are under suspicion are the same people the masses rely on for justice proof is almost always impossible to gain. Know the world you live in
If you want obscure, impractical and completely illogical, look up the Gulf of Tonkin.
Oh wait .... oh yes thats right it was a catalyst for a war that the general public were fooled into supporting.
Do not try to apply false logic when putting forward your point, we are not all stupid. Proof by the way is in the way the buildings came down and the tower seven collapse, let us not pretend that it was not a substantial piece of evidence in itself.
@iziahlights Thank you!!! You told it like it is. Also, Bush II will be tried for war crimes. Sooner than we think. I hope I'm alive to see that. What more proof than how USA still has us Puerto Ricans as slaves with Food Stamps, Medicaid, Agent Orange back in the 30's, letting loose monkeys with AIDS in our jungles, and farms, practicing with laser beams on our patriots back in the 60s, that were put in jail as political prisoners, and not letting us trade with whomever we wish. Pray people!
Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 2 months ago
I like how this doofus can't even read the script without stumbling over his own tongue, Typical conspiracy retard.
billm991 4 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
The man in the black and white picture is not george orwell, he is a look a like. On the back of my edition of Nineteen Eighty Four there is a full print of Orwell and that man is not Orwell. It must be a conspiracy.
Plato86 4 months ago
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9/11 was a excuse to take over Middle East oil. click Justice party UK.
justicepartyuk 5 months ago
@pdderek, AND YOU WANNA SAY THAT THE PEOPLE ON THESE PLANES THAT WERE HIJACKED WERE FAKE? YEAH OKAY GO AHEAD AND TELL MY BEST FRIENDS FAMILY THAT HER FATHER DYING ON THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON WAS FAKE! GO LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MESSAGE HE LEFT FOR HIS FAMILY MINUTES BEFORE HE DIED. EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME AND THE REST OF AMERICA YOU STUPID LIBERAL FUCK!
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx What was the person's name? May I listen to it? You should encourage her to release the audio so that you can dispell this "movement" with actual evidence rather than just shouting like a 10 year old girl who can't have the cookie she wants.
No photographic evidence of a plane PLUS radar operators and pilots saying 757's can't fly that way tells me there wasn't a plane...It's just evidence I want. YOU apparently have it and won't share it.
Don't have an aneurysm
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek you want the evidence, fine. go right ahead. personal message me on here and ill give you her name and your ignorant ass can ask her yourself for it. once again a liberal asshole who thinks hes right.
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@pdderek, excuse me for actually being offended by people saying that 9/11 was a conspiracy theory when i was a mother fucking first responder from the NYPD and saving all your mother fucking asses from getting killed and living under osama bin ladens rule!! seriously, unless you actually experienced the horror of this event just do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx no one called your bravery into question. Thank you for helping that day.
Your service has NOTHING to do with who actually perpetrated the attacks however. I'm sorry if you can't seperate the two.
Either way it was Americans dying and was a tragedy. It's odd that you all are so angry just because we don't "believe" the accepted account of what happened.
Not believing the official story has nothing to do with your service that day and on the days after.
pdderek 5 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx I don't believe Osama had anything to do with 9/11 so you can shove that logic wherever you care to keep it. It's up to you to decide whether you believe that CNN could find that mother fucker when we, the combined intelligence forces of USA and EUROPE couldn't find him...believe what you want.
pdderek 5 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx Any American who understands his country's values would never tell someone to shut the fuck up about a subject that, according to my frame of thought, is to this day robbing Americans of Soldiers' lives, our tax dollars, and most importantly, our constitutional freedoms.
The more you perpetuate an attitude of BLIND HATE and UNRELENTING CERTAINTY the more you allow the government to control us.
Try to realize "truthers" believe were looking for TRUTH. We'll stop when found
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek no no no....im telling you to stfu because you have no first hand experience of 9/11. you werent there risking YOUR LIFE for the rest of our country, you werent away from your family for months at a time trying to find people that were still alive under all the mess at ground zero, you werent there breathing in all the debri and risking your own health to help others. you have no idea what myself and hundreds of other first responders went through after 9/11. many of us have horrible
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@pdderek health risks now bc of it. you dont know ANYTHING about saving our country! we are fighting back bc if we dont, as a country, we seem weak! and yes, soldiers lives are on the line but guess what, IT WAS THEIR CHOICE TO DO THIS FOR THEIR COUNTRY! nobody told them to put their lives on the line. they feel thats how they want to give back to our country. i lost many friends due to 9/11 and friends overseas fighting for mine and YOUR FREEDOM! so when somebody says that this attack was
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@pdderek PLANNED by the government, it gets me so fired up because you all are a bunch of liberal fuckheads who dont know SHIT about this subject! why the fuck would it make sense for the government to plan an attack on not only ground zero, but on the pentagon too? like are you fucking joking? do you know how STUPID you sound talking like that? its bc of people like YOU, are the reason we have who we have in office running our country and clearly CANT RUN IT EFFICIENTLY. bc you liberal morons
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
@pdderek dont have a fucking clue as to how to run a country or fight back for your rights and freedom! guess what babe, as soon as your freedom is gone, youll be BEGGING AND PLEADING TO FIGHT BACK TO GET IT BACK! dont let everyone elses freedom be gone bc you stupid morons dont wanna fight back! how do you think we earned our freedom in this country in the first place? HELLO!!! WORLD WAR 1 & 2! brush up on your american history!
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 5 months ago
I'm an up and coming rapper and I address this bull shit in several of my songs. Check me out, I'm going to do what I can when I get on to make sure bullshit like this doesn't fly.
BarrenFrost 5 months ago
Just another video that "asks questions" while stating nothing. Truthers will never make statements because they have no proof or logical arguements, obvioulsy.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
As long as all these conspiracy theory wackos do is chat on the internet in their basments, they're harmless.
claton95 5 months ago
This video is just too great! The message reminded me of “Programming the Nation.” Have you seen it? It’s a pretty mind-blowing movie, one of my favorites. It’s all about censorship and being politically active. bit. ly/m4LDUB
jasonmontes1492 5 months ago
wtc collapse solved. watch v=eAV_BUQoGBw
focus on finding who done it please.
snowonweb 6 months ago
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Large picture: corporation and all the hollywood bullshit brainwash got us government by the balls by paying them to make a new world order. us officials were too greedy and too blind to resist the temptation and they pushed us army into a conflict that only benefits the corporations and a small number of people in america. Wake up, america! instead of saving the world, save yourself...protecting the jewish is just a patethic reason for us army to be in middle east
CristiClujeanul 6 months ago
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UncoveringConscious 6 months ago
u want 2 know the truth ppl watch "LOOSE CHANGE" this guy talking in the video still thinks bin laden was involved lol whatever..........
MrOldschool416 7 months ago
ridiculous effort to confuse those who does not know what really happened. These whores are doing the country huge harm. May they all stop being such whores and understand that protecting the real guilty party is treason.
eerginer 7 months ago
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TuesdayMorningInSept 7 months ago
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cappucinokid100 7 months ago
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donhonki1 8 months ago
The thing I can't figure out is that W,who was to stupid to tie his own shoes (according to the truly enlightened of the world),was the leader of the most brilliant and effective conspiracy in the history of mankind.
listerone 8 months ago
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PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING. Government shills have infested Youtube, and wider internet, like rabid rats. They post crap that backs up the government narrative on all sorts of unsavory issues. Ignore them and mock them. They'll be tracked down. They'll soon get their comeuppance and find themesleves doing hard time picking up shower soap! ;-) Shilling for mass murderers online is disgusting and not acceptable. If you can find the heart, then do say a prayer for these MORONS... :-(
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Truth666 8 months ago
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SteveFusionX 8 months ago
Hey guys, just a question for all of you conspiracy theorists. If the government was smart enough to create a scheme to dupe all of you and blow up the WTC out of greed, then don't you think that they'd be smart enough to hide the evidence better? The thing is, the government could have EASILY made it look more "believable" if they wanted to, but they didn't because they didn't do it! You ask questions, which is fine, but most of you don't truly care about the answers...
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam
They didn't need to make 9/11 believable (scientifically) because they knew from decades of dumbing down (fluoride in the water supply and MSG in the food) that the vast majority of American citizens are so apathetic and blindly patriotic that anything the government told them would be the gospel truth.
Just look at the latest bin laden "death" hoax. They couldnt even get the story straight,
and yet we still believe it, even with NO evidence whatsoever!
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX Ok, I'm gonna stop you right there. If fluoride in the water was dumbing us down, why have we not seen a recent dramatic drop in the general population's IQ? Have people stopped graduating college, performing worse on jobs, has science stopped in it's tracks? Seems like this fluoride poisoning is doing a bad job. You guys have the nerve to call others sheeple, but look at the ridiculous things you believe (fluoride, really man?)!
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam
We HAVE seen a decrease in IQ (in America) (do some research into this topic, as I have)
The average IQ of an american hovers around 100 - whereas Japan and Korea (whom DON'T fluoridate their water) have IQ's of 110 to 114 on ave
College and school grades HAVE been dumbed down, this is well known - and even admitted in mainstream media.
I didn't call anyone a "sheep".
Fluoride, yes really "man". Look into it.
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX Japan retains a higher IQ then America because of a couple of key factors.
1. look at their education system compared to ours, it is cleary superior.
2. Look at their work ethic compared to ours, they work MUCH harder then the average American, and that's not just a stereotype.
3. Japan is predominantly one race, and so are we. Races have slight genetic differences. It has been proven that Asians (even in the US) have higher average IQs then Caucasians.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam Also, interestingly enough, the average Asian IQ in the US is also 115.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam
education and knowledge has nothing to do with IQ potential.
"working hard" has nothing to do with IQ scores
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX Wrong! IQ is potential, BUT it can be raised through good education. Education often times trains the part of our brain responsible for logic, so IQ does depend on education level to some extent. Also, you failed to see the other post, where I mentioned that Asians in the US have the same IQs as Asians in other countries. Race plays a big role in Why the US has a lower average IQ then Japan.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX And another thing, even if what you say IS true, wouldn't they count on some people "exposing" them? Yes, you could argue that they know people would assume you're just conspiracy theorists, but when there's enough evidence, conspiracy becomes reality. You would think that they would do a better job, considering that it's the fucking government. And about Osama, a little secret for you. The government WANTS you to think it's a secret, because it's likely a distraction.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam
Osama and Al-Qaeda are PART of the government - look into a BBC documentry called "Alqaeda doesnt exist" you can see it here on youtube.
If you need sources to any of the facts i've given, just let me know OK.
I am only interested in the truth, not theory.
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX I don't know weather this is true or not, but it seems like it's falling apart a bit to me. If Osama IS part of the government, then who carried out 9/11 according to you? Did Osama do it, Al-Qaeda? Or do you believe Mossad did it? To be honest, I don't know enough about this conspiracy or 9/11 to refute/accept your claims. I'm merely questioning you to make sure you know what you're talking about. I know a lot of conspiracy nuts that don't even understand the conspiracy theory.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam
Please watch BLUE PRINT FOR TRUTH.
Engineers and architects, presenting nothing but facts re 9/11:
/watch?v=b74naeawdCs
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX Have any of these engineers/architects' claims been through peer review? No, and that's why they're not credible. It doesn't matter whether they're engineers, because the scientific method has NOT been applied to their claims. Not to mention, the host of "debunking" documentaries, which show that the claims many of those architects and engineers make are false. Why don't you watch one of those, rather then more conspiracy movies.
CommunityCam 8 months ago
@CommunityCam Listen this was the works of 'The Former President Of The United States George W. Bush' himself. Osama Bin Laden, were infact not a globalized terrorist, but he had family problems, and possibly the family was working out a deal with the U.S Government about oil and stuff.. So this is merely for having a country to blame, which leads you to war and oil (which happens to be found in The Middle East). Or maybe it was for testing the material "Nano-Thermite" which found in the WTC!
Olivere118 8 months ago
definatley i am in MIHOP camp:)lol
salllu 8 months ago
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im not going into detail but there is so much concrete evidence, from experts around the world, that contradicts the story about the whole 9/11 event given by the government and media. if theres so many flaws in the story then why dont the government investigate it? because they wouldnt investigate their own crime. evidence goes against it, doesnt add up and to top it off after 10 years of hunting bin laden theres no believable evidence of his death but more evidence for a conspiracy.
TheJJGillespie 9 months ago
Why can't the Government prove it wasn't them?
ransiergroup 9 months ago
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The LORD jesus wanred us about this day. The anti christ is about to come, the people who control the usa the freemasons and illumanati and jesuits are satan worshippers just look at the dollar bill. They want to make a new world order where satan and the anti christ will be worshiped JESUS wanred us. All bible prophecy points to the pope as the anti christ, the pope is about to bring the world back in the dark ages his jesuits control your economy and the worlds economy they will crash it
vladimirkovalski 9 months ago
If the government planned 9/11 for money... then why are we in a recession?
Johnicle2 9 months ago
@Johnicle2 ..your economy is in recession,my economy is in recession..the few world's billionares' economy isn't....thats how ,they can keep running the oily afghani "war"..maybe soon, and hopefully not, the oily Libyan "war"
wachaushenzi 9 months ago
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Please subscribe to my channel and i will subscribe to yours and will spread the Truth like a disease .
Vote for the truth .
Allseeingeye2013 9 months ago
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PlumIslandPIADC 9 months ago
larry silverstein is a jew he made money and jews were evacuated before 9/11 happened but non jews were not for obvious reasons, jews are the terror of planet earth not muslims not christians not buddhists, its the jews, get rid of jews no more terror a simple concept
karibari25 9 months ago
@karibari25 I have yet to see Jewish Terrorist sawing the heads off of captives...on the other hand I have seen "another" religious extreamist sect do many....
BadBunnyRides 9 months ago
@BadBunnyRides maybe you need speak to palestinians..doesnt get more real than that..
wachaushenzi 9 months ago
@wachaushenzi I have, and yes it's kind of a shity deal they are getting all around. I'm not talking about Hezbula either, I mean the REAL palestinians (look into that if you don't understand what Im talking about).
And as far as I know, Isreal has offered Talks 3 times now and been spurned.
BadBunnyRides 9 months ago
@BadBunnyRides ..my point exactly..grab someone's land then expect them to agree sit down with you and discuss ,how well to carve it up and share it
wachaushenzi 9 months ago
@wachaushenzi Here's the silly thing about this entire arguement they have....
A man sees you don't have a car, yet need to get to work and make money to provide for your family. He gives you one. Later on, another man tells you that the car was stolen from him after he'd stolen it from someone else and demands you give it to him. AND he really hates you, breaking your windows, stealing your mail, ect. Yet does nothing to the man who gave you the car, because he's bigger then you are.
Silly.
BadBunnyRides 9 months ago
@BadBunnyRides ..gotcha..prunning the branches ,while leaving the the root of the matter grounded..
wachaushenzi 9 months ago
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@BadBunnyRides ..gotcha..prunning the branches ,while leaving the the root of the matter grounded..
wachaushenzi 9 months ago
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Print the truth Justice party UK is being blocked for speaking truth. This is bias & unfair.
justicepartyuk 9 months ago
What do you mean official conspiracy theory? Thats the truth. A conspiracy theory is what all you wackos come up with. Because you got nothing better to do. 3,000 people died. You guys are no better than those people who protest soldiers funerals. Show some respect and let go of your hallucinations.
neutz101 9 months ago
US government caught red handed covering up 911
youtube.com/watch?v=R3yKYKRtBHI
Archurian 9 months ago
Oh, by the way, if cell phones really could work while the plane was in the air, then the airlines would never have bothered to spend the enormous amount of money it cost, to install seat phones in the first place. Anyone who looks into the actual facts of 9/11 and STILL believes the official story, is either brain-dead or just plain unwilling to admit that the U.S. government is so profoundly evil. Don't hate the deniers; pity them for being so weak-minded and deluded.
LongLiveOx 9 months ago 2
@MrVistaCruiser - Mr. Government Troll, you are not fooling anyone. LOL, the official sham is crumbling at FREE FALL SPEED, just as Building 7 did. The government and the media are frantically trying to silence the blatantly obvious truth. Their lies have been exposed. More and more are catching on. And the cornered rat lashes out.
LongLiveOx 9 months ago 19
@MrVistaCruiser
Thanks for joining in the discussion!
Your intelligent comment is much appreciated.
How do you feel about building 7? This is always an interesting topic to me.
No "plane" hit WTC7 (apparantly some debris struck ONE side and caused a small fire, this is the official story)
Yet it came down at free-fall speed. This is now proven 100% for sure with physics software:
watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
SteveFusionX 10 months ago
WTC formula for collapse is simple Plane damage + fire + gravity + X = controlled collapse which we saw.
10 years and not one person can explain with out mistakes.
Photos prove no plane at pentagon.
Photos and news prove no crash of flight 93.
What going on lets call for the truth.
BrotherGiles 10 months ago
No, I am still not convinced. I just watched a video on "conspiracy theories debunked", and the footage of the collapsing buildings do look demolished. Why would steel supports fall under the weight of floors that supports have been supporting for the previous 30 years?
WorldSacred 10 months ago
The Money Masters of this world, the billionaire corporations that control the U. S. government and the military, are behind just about everything, not just 9/11. The people in the U.S. are a bunch of sheep, just as they are elsewhere in other countries around the globe. They do not want to believe that their leaders and the people in charge are corrupt. This is nothing new, it has been happening for centuries. the examples over time are unbelievable....
DJMightyRaton 10 months ago
The government's false flag op. (911) was not pulled off successfully at all. The plane that was supposed to hit tower 7 defected! They had already used the back up military plane on one of the towers (because the second plane defected also) But they were left with a building packed with explosives and no plane to hit it to justify it's collapse. This news of tower 7's plane defecting was what was whispered into bush's ear in the classroom. Bush knew then that they were BUSTED. See it?
AJollyGoodFelon 10 months ago
@MrVistaCruiser there are no need for insultes... i really dont care what you seem to think about me... you know nothing about me... iam open to an educated discusion but insulting ppl you do not know is not constructive at all... and there are alot of lies they told us.. IF what they said was true why not show the public any pic of the pentagon whenthe plane hit... there was something like 20 diff camras that filmed it. we never seen any of them.. why???
trueskeptic86 10 months ago
Anyone who thinks the Al Qaede is not a real threat needs to open their eyes and look around. I served in Desert storm and even then the Al Qaede was making threats and we heard pleanty about them over there. I have friends still serving and some have the battle wounds to prove the Al Qaede is real and hates any American. If the truthers get their way we will lower all of our defenses and then where will we be? Who will they blame then? The government for not protecting them?
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
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I admit I do not know how much oil is in the ground but is it worth it in human life and what it would cost in moving a entire army and air force into place? What if the cost out ways the amount of oil?
ghosttrain2066 10 months ago
Your Gen X appearance, dress, mannerisms, and presentation are a real turn off.
alpha18412 10 months ago
come talk to me. your the biggest ASSHOLE on here. wtf. are you joking? stfu. they didnt do it on purpose and those were commercial flights asshole. dont fucking talk about shit you dont know about unless you experienced it....and when i say experienced, i mean stfu unless it severely affected you..which obvi it didnt. you arrogant SOB. fuck upp already. btw shave yr face you look like a caveman.
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 10 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx (cont) and if you don't believe me, you are welcome to contact AT&T and try and get authorization to recall a phone call made from the Pentagon (which would be very unlikely), which gave some AMERICAN demolition guy the authority to knock down both Trade Centers. I was privileged enough to hear this phone call later (along with 50 other people who earn 100 times what I do), in an unofficial inquest in to what went on that day at the Pentagon.
WorldSacred 10 months ago 2
@WorldSacred What is your job title, what department where you in at the Pentagon, and what is your security clearance level. My last few years in the military I was in and out of the Pentagon and had a close friend who was killed in the attack. I having trouble buying your story about listening to a phone call I doubt took place but if it had you would have never had the security clearance to be in on it. Security at the Pentagon is a lot tighter than you are drawing it out to be.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I don't recall ever saying that I had a job in the Pentagon. When I said "working", I did use quotes to emphasise that I did work *with* not not *for* the Pentagon. That's okay, most people (outside my former flatmate, and family) don't believe my story anyway, and most Pentagon employees today probably don't remember seeing me 10 years ago. I didn't get to hear the phone call in question at the time, but I was given a listen to the audio recording years later (2005).
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I'm aware of the security measures the Pentagon takes. I was given fingerprint and eye scans so that I could be allowed access to certain sections (under supervision) of the Pentagon. This doesn't change the fact that I was in the Pentagon on the day and the days leading up to the S11 attacks. You are free to find the phone call recording from the Pentagon in which a high ranking official gave the order for the WTC demolitions.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred Find the phone records? Without proper security clearance you would have a hard time getting any records for even the pay phones in the Pentagon. You never answered what your security clearance was? Who issued it? How long was it issued for? Saying you were finger printed and "had your eyes scanned" leaves huge holes in your story. What color was your security badge. Your story sounds very made up. What was your job? They're pretty simple questions.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I just told you that I didn't have a job in the Pentagon. Not everyone in the Pentagon work for the Pentagon. I wasn't dreaming when I said that I was eyed scanned. I don't give a fuck what the clearance was for. All I remember about the days there was that I was told to show how I did (so and so) SO that they knew how to do (so and so). I'll give you a hint: I was there because I had figured out how to perform out-of-body experiences and then reanimation.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Not long after the guy gave the order to have the WTC demolished, the plane hit the Pentagon. In the aftermath, the official went near ballistic and was about to shoot anyone who was foreign.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred What movie are you playing in your head? Bubba! If the phone conversation you claim took place really did, fantasy world, there would be no way you would have been allowed to be in the same room or even building. There was no phone call giving orders to blow the WTC's which means you are either lieing or have made this fantasy life up in your deranged mind. The later in the most likely choice. If your gonna lie try to make it believable.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Are you having reading difficulties, moron? I told you that I only heard the phone conversation from an audio recording years after it took place. Nowhere did I state that I witnessed the phone first hand, only that someone else told me that some official was ordering the demolition of the WTCs. But, I did get to hear about this phone conversation in a general inquiry for the people (including me) who were in the Pentagon at the time of the attacks.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred No problems at all, except in believing your story. You were allowed to listen to a phone conversation where officials gave the green light to blow the WTC's? Recording or not how do you explain them allowing you to be included in this? If this tape existed it would be considered SSI and you either would not be allowed to hear it or not allowed to talk about it on here. Your story just doesn't cut it. It's completely made up and you can't answer any of my questions.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I don't know if it was a landline call or a cell phone call, but I do know that it did originate FROM the Pentagon by an employee there. So, just because YOU didn't get to hear the call record, then it doesn't exist? A little arrogant isn't it? The reason why I got included in hearing the recording was because I was a witness to an allegation regarding the WTCs demolition. I would write you 500 words on this, but YouTube is only limited.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred You come on here saying you heard a tape giving the green light to blow the buildings but you can't mention the "project" you were working on? Let me explain why your bullshit story pisses me off. A good friend who served with me was stationed at the Pentagon and lost his life the day after from burns he recieved. He left behind a wife and two little girls. When bullshitters like you come on here lieng about being there I have NO use for you. Go tell your lies somewhere else boy.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Like I said, I wasn't employed in any project, but more like the guinea pig. You call me a bullshitter, but you expect me to believe your story about you being in the Pentagon and the military. Kind of hard to believe or prove either of our stories, isn't it? Buddha, I have been shot at, beaten by roid-ragers, drugged against my will, knifed, etc., all because your Pentagon employees couldn't be honest about that day. They do that when they want more scapegoats to deflect blame.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSaced "I was there as a civilian, 'working' with employees of the Pentagon on some minor "project" (that could have been done from my home town), when the attacks were occurring". Your own words. Yes I was a Marine and even though I'm retired I will always be a Marine, and it's not hard for me to prove that. I never worked in the Pentagon, I never even made it past the lowest level of security. I went there four times wrapping up my retirment and visiting my friend.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Someone working with someone doesn't mean that they are employed there. Just as someone working with the police to bring down a murderer doesn't mean that they are paid by the police or employed with them. Trust me, I didn't ask to be there, nor was wanting to stay. It's just that certain people found out that I could do something important for the military or hospitals in general. I also have the same difficulties proving that I was at certain other general spots 10 years ago, too.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred Unlike you who is claiming to have worked there, and now your claiming to have been a guinea pig, I haven't made some lavish story of how i was there during the attack or how I was invited to listen to a phone recording that would have been way over you security clearence and pay grade. Now your claiming to have been attacked, drugged, stabbed, beaten and shot because of what you claim to know? Bubba your story gets wilder by the minute. Lets hear more made up bullshit about this
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Buddha, some people are guinea pigs for scientists because they are immune to AIDS, or certain diseases. I don't know why the Pentagon bothered with me, because there are thousands of people that could do what I could do, that they could have selected. I was invited to listen to a record of a phone call because I was the subject of another phone call from 2 years earlier, which was loosely related to the phone call that the official made about the WTC. Go bother AT&T about this.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred What is this Buddha crap? Now why would I go bother AT&T for a recording of a phone conversation that never existed? One problem with your claim is AT&T doesn't record phone calls, the Pentagon might have, if it had actually taken place.. Also why would the Pentagon ask you to be "their Guinea Pig" when your not even in the US? Your Australian, or at least your profile says you are, unless you were lieing in it also.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Weeeell, you're calling me "Bubba", I can call you "Buddha". Yes, I am Australian. Just to add to your so-called bullshit list, I was in the United States illegally.. becaaause there were a number of people who decided they didn't want to bother with stuff like passports and the like just to get me over to a place like the Pentagon so that I could show them how to do (so and so) things that they could have PAID me to do in my own home town.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Something I haven't asked you is whether or not you believe that the WTCs were demolished (as per evidenced by video and audio footage), or that the WTCs fell for no scientific reason of its own accord? By the way, some national phone company (no matter who it is) always records EVERY phone conversation.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred The WTC collapsed because of structual damage from the impact and the fires. It has been proven over and over why this happened and how unrealistic the explosive theory is. Do you realize how many charges place perfectly and timed perfectly it would take to do what your saying? Demolition crews spend weeks rigging explosives to drop a building. Explosives by themself will not even drop a building, crews go in and cut key structural supports to aid the explosive.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker 60 years prior to the WTC attack, a bomber flew in to the Empire State building. The building burnt for hours, yet never collapsed in spite of the impact and fires similar to the ones the WTCs experienced. Secondly, the WTC fell 'clean'. Had it fallen due to structual weakening, then the building would have fallen more on a slant and not straight down. Why is it that the WHOLE building fell and not just the top half. The fires didn't have anything to do with the lower levels.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred So can you explain how crews would be able to enter three buildings as busy as these with all the equipment they would need, cutting rigs (and not small ones), impact hammers to break through the fire bariers around the beams, det cord (miles of it), Blasting caps, radio recievers, and so on. Th comes the question of how did they keep the charges from going off until they were ready? The charges are always radio controlled .
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker Three buildings? I thought there were only two that collapsed from an air attack? If you are referring to WTC7, then that makes the issue more complicated (and harder to deny that the buildings weren't demolished). I would say that the crews went via the elevators or the stairs, and did their extensive work in ways that you or I wouldn't know. A building like the WTC wouldn't fall as the result of a fire whilst other floors remain intact.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred If anyone happens to key a radio on the channel they are using to set off the charges the building would come down prematurely. I witnessed a building being dropped here in New Orleans years ago and the sound of the charges were nothing like on the video, faster and not as loud. This was on a building maybe 8 stories tall. WTC was a lot taller and with all the other noise around you would not hear the charges like the the truthers claim, Now steel breaking and collapsing? Yes
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I doubt they would leave the instruction manual and equipment lying around for people to use. I wouldn't want to walk in to a building that falls apart at the first plane crashing in to it. Reckon that my house could withstand a plane crashing in to it. Wouldn't have a roof or much of my possessions left, but the rest of it would stand.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred So you think your house could withstand the impact of a 250,000 lb plane going 450-500mph? I know you were being sarcastic but think about the impact this would cause to building, especially a tall building when struck over half way up. The consider the fuel and debris inside the building burning, heating the support beams that have had the fire barrier knocked off by the plane. All this happening in a section support the floors above. Pretty obvious, but planting all those charges?
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker I've seen the footage of the planes flying in to the buildings a dozen or more times over. Not to ignore the severe casualties of the attacks, but when you look at the damage caused, the WTCs could have withstood the plane crashes. Why did the rest of the tower collapse, if it was only one part of the tower that got hit? As for WTC7, why did it fall? Peer pressure?
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred How many floors were above were the planes hit? Think about how much weight that was. Now think about the amount of force that would apply on the floors below when those upper floor colapsed. Think of it like a hammer driving a nail. The building was designed to servive interior fires but not after something has knocked the fire proof barrier off the beans. It was designed to take an impact of a plane, but not the impact of a plane, the fire and the impact of the upper floors.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@WorldSacred The ones claiming explosives were used do not take into consideration of all the things that took place in that one incident. Yes the building was built strong but it was designed to only handle so much and there were several forces working against the building which added up to more than it could handle. 7 fell because of damage from the other buidling falling and the fire that was fueled by the gen pack fuel tanks. There plenty of videos explaing it.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker WTC7 wasn't anywhere near WTC1 and 2 to be damaged enough to warrant a collapse. The buildings stayed up for up to and over an hour's duration. If the towers weren't going to fall as a result of fires in the first few minutes, then there is no reason why it should fall an hour later.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred The fires inside the buildings were not like a cutting tourch puts out, nowhere near as hot. The fire might have reached 300-350 degrees inside the building which would not melt the steel . The longer the support beams were exposed to that heat the weaker they became until they finally gave out. There is no reason why the steel would give out within minutes after being exposed. It took time for the heat to weeaken the beams and for enough of them to give before it all gave out.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@WorldSacred I have watched the videos of the towers colapsing and it looks nothing like a demolition job. Watch any video of a building be blown and you will see the colapse never starts over half way up the building. The demolition teams make the building fall into their own footprint by taking out the part supporting the most weight, the basements.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker The towers collapsing looked so much like a demolition job, there is no need to speculate otherwise. Why did the tower fall at near free-fall speed, and it fell quite clean. Consider that the planes hit one side of the towers (with the second tower hit at an angle), if it was going to fall, it shouldn't have completely collapsed. We would at best be seeing half a tower each, because the fires didn't impact on the supports below half way.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred Have you been playing with linclon logs? The key beams that supported the towers wer not on the outter edges as you seem to think. The main support beams run up the middle section of the tower and were weakened by the fire. Strange that the experts the truthers quote all the time changed their theory within a few months after making their first guess at what happened. But of course the truthers still use the old theories. Guess the government paid them to change their story
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker to a person like you, patriotism means supporting your goverment no matter what , in all unconstitutional wars whether congress was by passed or not. patiotism means never asking questions or thinking for yourself! excepting what your told and never researching anything you disagree with, just ridicule and dismiss. america is disinigrating in front of your eyes and all idiots like you care about is sports. LA huh? enjoy the radiation.
scheemadruci 10 months ago
@scheemadruci I don't remember yanking your chain dumbass. You have no idea of patriotism and your so called research is you looking up bullshit truther stories that have twisted the dacts and deleted the entire story. I haven't seen a truthers story yet where thay didn't leave out sections just to try and make their crap sound true. I research issues but if I post anything with facts to bake it up the truthers start changing the story. Radiation? It's Louisiana dumbass! Not LosAngeles A-Hole
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
you are the biggest jackass ive ever come across in my life. do you even LIVE in ny? did you KNOW anybody that was involved in the 9/11 attacks? no i dont think so bc if yu did, you wouldnt be rambling about shit that isnt true. like why the FUCK would they "Make It Happen On Purpose" seriously bro? when you have an uncle who died on the plane going into the pentagon and 2 parents working for 4 weeks straight cleaning up the mess of ground zero and family friends who died in the twin towers then
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 10 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx I have no idea who you are talking to. Yet, you seem to say that only the people that experienced the attacks should talk. Well, you're in luck. I happened to BE in the Pentagon when it was hit by that plane on S11, 2001. I was there as a civilian, 'working' with employees of the Pentagon on some minor project (that could have been done from my home town), when the attacks were occurring. I had heard another civilian talk about an official ordering the demolishing of the WTC.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx
septemberclues.info
9/11 was a hoax.
Nothing more than a gigantic mass-controlled demolition of key financial buildings.
Larry silverstein (owner of the WTC complex) made sure he had full insurance against "terrorist attacks" just weeks before the demolition took place.
It has affected us ALL - not just people in NY, not just people in AMERICA either; but the entire WORLD has been duped by the fake "terror" nonsense.
research it - start with WTC7.
SteveFusionX 10 months ago 22
@SteveFusionX ER did he get insurance because he was told by his head of security that the towers where open to attack. They where attacked before 9-11
ghosttrain2066 10 months ago
@SteveFusionX I watched the video. Holy shit dude. There were missile flares popping off! WTF! PROVE THATS A PLANES JOB MISTER BUSH
JohnGreene444 10 months ago
@SteveFusionX OSAMAAAA!!!! IM PRETTY SURE THE PEOPLE AT ARABIA PARTIED ALL DAY!!
XILycanthropyIX 10 months ago
@XILycanthropyIX
nah. Osama Bin Laden is nothing more than a CIA agent (since the 70's - if you do your history)
Al-Queda translates as "the database" - a list of strawmen the CIA can pick when needed as leverage to invade countrys in the middleast.
Now we see our mainstream media telling us that Gadaffi is linked to Al Queda (and so of course we must have a full-invasion there too)
SteveFusionX 10 months ago
@SteveFusionX Yes, research it. But don't forget to research the counter arguments aswell. In science we do not know the answers in advance.
FrozenPetrolPie 9 months ago
@FrozenPetrolPie
except, maybe, the guys who wrote the 911 Commission report. They were told the answer they had to find, and went ahead and wrote the most amazingly detailed piece of reverse-engineering bullshit on the face of the planet.
actually, more likely they were just told what NOT to find. explosive demolition. make up the rest of the shit as you like, but make it sound convincing. except they failed first time around and had to rewrite shit so Larry would still get his Billions.
ThePassiveFist 9 months ago
@ThePassiveFist I think you should read "Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time" by Michael Shermer.
FrozenPetrolPie 9 months ago
@SteveFusionX The number of people needed to set up these explosions would be huge. How have they all kept it a secret? Where are the whistle blowers? I know. They don't exist and nor does your pathetic conspiracy. Grow up.
poddington99 8 months ago
@poddington99
Thousands of architects and engineers disagree with you. This is not a baseless"conspiracy".
As for your question regarding how they setup the charges (of nano-thermite) this is explained fully in "blueprint for truth"
I highly recommend checking it out.
Again, not a "conspiracy theory" - these are scientists and engineers whom deal only in FACTS:
/watch?v=b74naeawdCs&feature=PlayList&p=621A4B03C1169C78&index=0&playnext=1
SteveFusionX 8 months ago 4
@poddington99
"Where are the whistle blowers? "
Did you know that 2.3 trillion $ had been announced as "missing" in the pentagon, the day before 9/11?
Can you imagine the level of power that would give (whomever was really behind this) in order to shut people up, indefinately.
/watch?v=OlnQTcLHaMM
^^1 day before 9/11 on CBS news network
SteveFusionX 8 months ago 9
You misquote the "trillions missing" link you posted. Rumsfeld said that by some estimates up to 2-trillion is unaccounted for by the pentagon. He does not say, "TODAY! It was discovered 2trillions went missing"
He was addressing a CHRONIC problem of military spending and you're shaping it as though trillions walked out in brief-cases...Just saying
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek
I didn't misquote anything. I never said the money went missing the day before 9/11.
I said THEY announced it missing the day before 9/11 on the mainstream news (big difference)
SteveFusionX 5 months ago
@pdderek Exactly!!! But thats how these "Truthers" role, it's tough to catch all of their lies. Well done on that one.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@001mbuelow don't get me wrong, sir. I do not believe Jet Fuel burned down three buildings. Nor do I believe a Passenger Plane hit the Pentagon ;) I just don't need exageration and hyperbole fucking up other peoples' logical, sound, physics-based arguments and ideas against the accepted theories about 9/11.
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek that one always cracks me up, that the US used 2 jets to crash into WTC1&2, but not the Pentagon. What, did they run out of jets? To think anything other than the truth, which is that Middle Eastern terrorists hijacked our planes and crashed them into our buildings, is just wrong. The other "theories" are not accepted by reasonable people. Just morons who want to blame the US for all of their problems. Which is truely what your "movement" is all about.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@001mbuelow You are stating clearly that questioning the government's official theory is WRONG. Morally WRONG. I must disagree. Tonkin Gulf, sir. No "truther" (if that's what you must call them) believes "USA did this" We believe HIGH LEVEL FED OFFICIALS WERE INVOLVED. No one believes "US-Government" as a whole did this to it's own people.
ANY THEORY which hasn't been DISPROVEN should be considered plausible by "reasonable people"
Dismissing a theory OUT OF PRIDE is unreasonable
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek go ahead and ? the govt. the problem is you dont respect the answers. And yes, your movement is clearly stating that the US govt planned this. Just like the rest of you fools, you cloud your accusations with, what about this and what about that. SAY SOMETHING, and try to stand behind it. But you dont because you cant. Never forget, Middle Eastern terrorists hijacked our planes and crashed them into our buildings on Sept. 11th 2001.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@001mbuelow The maneuvers performed by whatever hit the pentagon have been described by commercial+Air Force pilots as nearly impossible even for 20+year veterans. Additionally the air-speed reported at impact is literally IMPOSSIBLE due to air resistance and maintaining 25ft of altitude across 4 football fields is also described as immensely difficult by air-force pilots. Therefore, to my mind it is "wrong" to believe the official report.
Discounting elementary physics is MORONIC
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek not "whatever" hit the Pentagon, a hijacked plane hit the Pentagon. And whats so impossible about hitting a small building, its the same as landing on a runway, except those pieces of sh%t didnt land on a runway, they landed in one of our govt buildings. So I ask you, what knocked over all those light poles? Who planted the plane parts within minutes of impact? and dont say they werent there, clearly there was plane debris all over. Who planted the people who witnessed the plane?
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@001mbuelow Did you know that 7 of the 19 hijackers have been verified as alive and well in their home countries? Did you also know the FBI refuses to alter their lists even after issuing official apologies?
U are free to believe what you want.
YOU are the one ignoring credible scientific FACT (such as free-fall speeds, Air Resistance, Molten Steel Temperatures) I'd take a second or two before deciding to label someone ELSE a moron because you don't understand elementary physics
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek Here is exactly what makes your "movement" so damaging. Your claim that some of the hijackers are alive and well implys that the passangers on the planes were fakes on some level. Id like to see you explain that to the families of people who died in those planes. And heres what you're purposfully misrepresenting....the FBI list had the wrong names of a few of the hijackers, not that they lied about false hijackers because there werent any. Your movement such BS.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@SteveFusionX You do know the twin towers were attacked before by terrorist before
Sept 11. Or did you forget about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. So it would
make since to have insurance from terrorist attacks
wtf0804 8 months ago
@wtf0804
So, why didn't larry take out the insurance after 1993? Instead of just weeks before 9/11 2001?
Seems very suspicious to me!
But yes, just a coincidence
SteveFusionX 8 months ago
@SteveFusionX Yes, but notice that if he had taken it out earlier, you would still probably be on his ass with your conspiracies. How much time has to pass before we consider it unrelated? A few weeks seems long enough to me, especially considering the fact that if it WAS planned, he would have done it a LONG time ago. Why would he wait until only a couple of weeks before?
CommunityCam 8 months ago
myhop sounds pretty good? I'll oick that one??
1chichimec1 10 months ago
9/11 was a Muslim job! get a grip you freaking morons,
4Tamashah 10 months ago
@4Tamashah True enough. But that doesn't discount that the towers were demolished by people working for the USA.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@WorldSacred btw it was those fucking muslims that crashed the planes. are you retarded? wow. another dumbass who doesnt know what he's talking about. watch the movie Flight 93 it is all about the planes that went into the twin towers. youll see it was fucking asshole muslims who killed the pilots and didnt answer the radios when the airlines were calling them and they turned the planes around and killed MILLIONS of innocent people. the middle east hates the USA cuz were a free country. moron.
xxfcKncLubh3adxx 10 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx First of all, I already know that it was Muslims flying planes in to the buildings. Secondly, lower your sugar intake because you are some hyperactive teen (or someone who acts like one). Thirdly, why bother referencing a movie as evidence for your argument? Seems like you're the moron. So far, no one has been able to dismiss the audio and video evidence that showed that the towers exploding from the inside and then collapsing.
WorldSacred 10 months ago
@xxfcKncLubh3adxx flight 93 is a HOLLYWOOD film. don't take it as fact
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek what a horrible thing to say. I bet the families of the people on that plane think differently.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@001mbuelow what's worse...Me questioning an official Government report because it's science is flawed or Hollywood making a profit from a "tragic event in American history"?
pdderek 5 months ago
@pdderek I gaurantee what your "movement" is doing is far more damaging than hollywood making a buck on the tragedy. BTW, thats the same hollywood that has donated millions to vicitms families and the injured. Ask questions, respect the answers, which you clearly do not do.
001mbuelow 5 months ago
@pdderek yea, of course that's what you'd say.
DEFEAT TRUTHERS TACTIC #1) When presented with undeniable evidence based in Science simply resort to calling the person's ethical character into question.
You can say what you want but I'm not attacking anyone's family or their family's legacies.
Don't BOTHER communicating with me if you can't dispell these ideas:
a) 757's don't fly fast at 25ft above ground
b) Free-Fall speed was reached in WTCT1,2&7
c) Hijackers alive and well
pdderek 5 months ago
@4Tamashah chill dude,myhop and lyhop are conspiracy therorys. it doesn't mean that its true.
TheIrishGangsters 10 months ago
'Tuesday Morning in September' This account
is pure, unfiltered, authentic, and being released
in such a way to keep its integrity. Project is not affiliated
and or connected to, working for any organization,
putting forth any propaganda and or slant perspective
of the events on 9/11. An over 2 hour account.
"If you're an American, you're going to feel this footage"
A statement from an unpropted viewer of the account.
TuesMorninginSept911 11 months ago
Heheh. We can know some things already, people. We are beyond "theory" and into facts: The government science was unscientific. WTC7's freefall means no resistance from the football field-sized floors below for 105 feet (8 stories). It's like a big game of chess, so stop thinking it's so impossible or nefarious. Sheesh. What is good or evil depends on the situation... watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo Let's think a little more logically... watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
iBlindGame 11 months ago
MONEY+OIL=BUSH $ 911 $ << was just a simple BIG money making deal , just that simple , BUSH family/and the Binladen family is ALL OIL people , the higher the price . the more CASH for BUSH / many kill for 1,000 dollars , so why not kill for 2 TRILLION dollars??
PARAPOUNARI 11 months ago
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It was the deliberate, orchestration of mass murder of American Citizens to gain support for an illegal war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Born2Flesh 11 months ago
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how could you believe this? if you do you are the dumbest person ever, why would the us government kill their own people???? it does not make sense!!!
wbab1234 11 months ago
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EVERYBODY type Illuminati backwards in there address bar followed by .com!!! CRAZY SHIT!!!
ITBAE86trueno 11 months ago
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600 Muslim died in twin towers, 1,100 those killed in twin towers were foreign nationals. 9/11 hijackers were scapegoat. 9/11 was inside job as a excuse to take over Middle East oil.click Justice party UK.
justicepartyuk 11 months ago
dont give visa or entrance to Araps to enter EU and USA..
redartatem9 11 months ago
The idea that a government could do such a thing to it's own people is a difficult thing for most to grasp. If we break down what the government actually is why is it so difficult to believe, subversive, lying, profiteering,minipulating,spying on,and yes in the past killing thier own people. Hardly rainbows and lollipops folks.
The government do not represent you, you live on a piece of land that has been claimed and you pay in for the privilege. Critical thought, use it or lose it.
iziahlights 11 months ago
@iziahlights Exactly. You might appreciate this.
It's like a big game of chess, so stop thinking it's so impossible or nefarious. Sheesh. What is good or evil depends on the situation... watch?v=4mHV7Zt-iSo Let's think a little more logically... watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
iBlindGame 11 months ago
Whaty are you talking about demolition experts?
Do you not think the military have established,created, and invented easier ways of bringing down a building, the military use Thermite in hand grenades add Barium Nitrate and you have a significant option when bringing down a building.
Proof you shout!
As any man who knows will tell you when the people who are under suspicion are the same people the masses rely on for justice proof is almost always impossible to gain. Know the world you live in
iziahlights 11 months ago
If you want obscure, impractical and completely illogical, look up the Gulf of Tonkin.
Oh wait .... oh yes thats right it was a catalyst for a war that the general public were fooled into supporting.
Do not try to apply false logic when putting forward your point, we are not all stupid. Proof by the way is in the way the buildings came down and the tower seven collapse, let us not pretend that it was not a substantial piece of evidence in itself.
Dont reply, I have had it with false patriots
iziahlights 11 months ago
@iziahlights Thank you!!! You told it like it is. Also, Bush II will be tried for war crimes. Sooner than we think. I hope I'm alive to see that. What more proof than how USA still has us Puerto Ricans as slaves with Food Stamps, Medicaid, Agent Orange back in the 30's, letting loose monkeys with AIDS in our jungles, and farms, practicing with laser beams on our patriots back in the 60s, that were put in jail as political prisoners, and not letting us trade with whomever we wish. Pray people!
serolfrotciv1 11 months ago