It's not important what islam is! It is important what islamo nuts are doing using islam and quran around the world. Islam and quran may be good but that's out of track now. They have been using to kill people. without islam world would have been less violent.
@TheRajibmondal Muslim discourse is currently a tissue of myths, conspiracy theories, and exhortations to recapture the glories of the 7th century. There is no reason to believe that economic and political improvements in the Muslim world would remedy this. I suspect that Muslim prosperity might even make matters worse, because the only thing that seems likely to persuade most Muslims that their worldview is problematic is the demonstrable failure of their societies.
Both debaters are articulate and intelligent. I would urge them to read books on cosmology, mathematics, evolution, genetics, archaeology, biology, and anthropology. If they did so studiously, they would throw out religion entirely and lead free and productive lives.
She is only saying what appeals to already brainwashed Americans on Islam. Her quest for liberal reform of Islam just does not make any sense. She wants to change the Islam that terrorist follow but the problem is MAJORITY of the Muslims are already libreal. Than what is she trying to change? Islam does not need to be changed but rather the few people-terrorist. She is also NOT a scholar on Islam, that does not help either. She only get attention frompeople who are anti-Islam and few muslims.
Aslan is an apologist and is welcome Iran because of it. His book No god but God is a perfect example of whitewashing the violent and unsupportable aspects of Islam. The book has very little academic documentation,,,the first sign of poor scholarship.
Naturaly that she is complaining on Qur'an and religion just by her sexual choice. She would do same if she is a "christian".Like this she found good source of money. Westerners are so stupid and they can not see this game. But we as a Muslims have to be grateful ti Irshad because Allah said that Islam will spread and with mouth of worst people in the world. This is just free advartisement.
Irshad keeps attacking Islam and insisting on saying that she is a Moslem!!!
She is not a moslem, She doesnt go to Mosque on fridays, She commits adultery that is a sin in islam. She never went to an Imam to marry her lesbian partner.
@TheRajibmondal , I think that you are speaking out of hatred not knowledge. What scares you -actually- not Islam but ignorance. Education is always a good thing!
@Screen0001 I read quran, bible, gita. quran says killing non muslims page after page after page. Your treatment towards women is barbaric and tyrant. So take your religion and shove it up your behind.
@TheRajibmondal I can't verify that you have read any book. But I can tell you that your conclusions are non scientific and based on hatred toward Islam and religion in general. I still insist on "Education is a good thing". Reading is not enough, you need to have the ability to understand and discuss matters in a civilized way. Remember this is year 2012.
All this talk of faith is retarded. Mohammad deceived his iliterate followers into believing he spoke to Angels. In this day and age if you believe Mohammad then you ought to be locked up. What's worst is these Muslim retards are teaching their children that Mohammad was all things good.
@fawazaltaf Muslims should be the last to talk about promiscuity. Profit MohaMmad never saw a female he didn't want to screw. Whether it was his aunt, a cousin, his daughter in law, his 6 year niece-If she had a vagina, Mohammad wanted it.
@lemmieatit great argument as usual from every christian who does not know shit about his own religion and its history. i would love to respond but your comment (so as Fawaz Altaf) is just babbling. your point is really difficult to define. if Christianity (as you probably indicating) spread freedom and democracy, why countries in Latin America, Africa, east Europe and Russia are not democratic? while countries like Turkey and indonesia are?
@fawazaltaf Satan would be happy if Islam spreads to the corners of the earth. I hope I'm not around to witness the spread of that mental disease. Your Profit Mohammad was a lying bastard-a known fact. That's why he was poisoned by one of his own. Even his youngest rape victim, Aisha commented on how his alter ego Allah was "always in a rush to appease the pedophile." Muslims are mental cases who need to be detoxed. Look at the state of Muslim countries.
Yes, the opinion of a lesbian "Muslim" on Islam, (despite the fact that she doesn't believe in the Quran at all).
the only Islam islam-haters want is a secular Islam, nothing all. If that is what anyone is hoping then let me warn you and say that that isn't going to happen any time soon.
Good luck on trying to "understand" Islam from confused apostates like Irshad!
@cbluver22 you don't have the right to call Irshad "not muslim" because she is a lesbian. even the quran consider homosexuality a sin, it is not a an infidelity.
A panel of unintelligent elitist discussing a retarded ideology. Do you really believe any word of Islam's pedophile prophet's revelations? Here's a man that killed, engaged in incest, raped, and robbed-and you wonder why The Mid-East is still in the dark ages. To this day, asshole Muslims continue the practice of marrying their 1st cousin(some girls as young as 9). Great religion!
@lemmieatit This is why in the west you find all those 8- 13 or even younger single mothers (in hundred of thousands if not more) with STDs running in the streets having six with you and others plus all those porn for underage girls, how corrupt this westren society in comparison to a muslim family .. middle east DOES NOT represent ISLAM the fastest growing religion IN THE WORLD (TRUE FACT) that will dominate the face of earth in just few years ..just read Quraan . thanks Allah i am a muslim
@Alkindi90 if they didn't say anything bout reforming , then ur mind is diseased.. go fuck urself,,, they want to make their own religion , fine do it.. but don't mess with Islam, u will be cursed , just like the west is being cursed by their economic downturn.. u will see the west fall on its ass and die...
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 aha! ok so Islam is a religion of peace? and if you hate the west so much why do you live in it? but you again you paki tard, i said Irshad manji is the one who is talking about "reforming". Aslan opposes such stand. and you would figure that out if you actually watched to the debate. nobody is talking about making a new religion and your stupidity plays in the hand of islam bashers you paki shithead!
@Alkindi90 , u little mother fucker, ur spitting ur venom at me?? fine.. Islam didn't kill 2 million iraqis and 1 million afghans the past 10 years. your fake democracy and Fake enduring freedom of the west did.. Islam didn't make 9/11 happen, it was the ELITE, CORPORATISM OF AMERICAN ZIONIST LOBBIEST THAT INSURED THE TWIN TOWERS THEN RAN 2 PLANES INTO THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE AN EXCUSE TO INVADE COUNTRIES AND LOOT AND STEAL LIKE AMERICAN SNAKES ALWAYS DO .
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 oh my god! just because i don't hate America does not mean i support the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. does not mean i like the blind for Israel. does not mean i agree with the right wing polices and their hypocrisy and religious fanaticism that is as dangerous as yours! and about 9/11, no i do believe that the hijackers were Muslims just like the KKK, the crusades, the European colonists were Christians. however, it would be foolish to think that islam solely motivated them
@Alkindi90 , yeh yeh... u trying to share ground here? save it. muslims didn't do 9/11.. its all fake,, i don't believe it for a minute. if the muslims did it , they are obviously in bed with officals in us government .. if u can deny dat, then its best for u to stop talking about this subject. i don't hate america , i hate the zionist regime in american government destroying america.. you think they are working for american interests? lol they are destroying american economy.
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 HA! i was planing to argue with a dumb christian but its been too long to since i owned a pathetic paki. i'm not to trying to reach a COMMON ground with you. that is why i believe. everyone in the world saw the planes crashing into the world trade center. bin laden said he was responsible. they were muslims. it is foolish to they they were not. it is as foolish as saying that Andrea Brevick is not a christian. and i never said that the AIPAC is working for America's interest.
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you either provide the same exact quotes of me saying that i support the war in iraq and Afghanistan, or think that the "Zionist" government is working for America's interest. i didn't even say a word of that kind, yet you responded to something i didn't even bring up! typical..
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you know i was actually with reza before you opened your mouth. you do realize that you are proving Irshad's point,right? i don't really understand why Pakistani are usually the most insufferable among all Muslims? the most radical of all? if you hate the west and look at the world as "believers" and "infidels" (just like many Christians do but they are not so stupid to actually admit it) live in Pakistan! it's pretty easy..
@Alkindi90 ,how else should i look at the world? if i say 1 person is a muslim and another is non muslim , (non believer) .. what is your problem? what do u want me to say ,, everyone is a believer , should i just fade out concepts and meaning of words?? r u being soo liberal that its turning ur arguments very stupid and illogical. if u don't have a strong statement to make , give it a rest.. u little kid.
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you should look to the world as human beings regardless of their religious affiliations. nobody told you to look at them as believers (Muslims). the problem is when you create your entire world view and judgment based on that. than we have a problem. because not all Muslims are pakis for example. there are cultural, lingual. political, and racial differences between us you know, even if it happens that we believe in the same religion.
where is Islam in Iran or Yoghanda or Canada or USA in comparison to Saudi Arabia where MILLIONS of people spent their entire life learning about it ..PhDs in certain verses .. and yet those two people speaks in its behalf , it is like listening to general practitioner or medical student speaking about brain surgery where he/she knows ONLY marginal topics and yet never been or did any surgery .. and yet people like us listening to them thinking they are the best brain surgeons in the world
@fawazaltaf well, i'm afraid it's not that simple. just because somebody from Saudi Arabia does not mean he is well informed about islam or even represent Islam. you realize your comment plays in the hand of haters and islam bashers. because every attempt to demonize islam and muslims around the world they use the saudi example. Reza Aslan is a muslim and have every right to speak his mind regarding the future of islam. this is right is not exclusive to indoctrinated saudis..
@Alkindi90 My friend ... there are OBVIOUS HALAL AND HARAM IN ISLAM ... these SHOULD NOT have debate since ALL scholars (irrespective of nationality) agree on that as they were STATED CLEARLY IN QURAAN..... these people debate that ... can you imagine someone permitting non Muslim man marry Muslim women because they love each other .... i cannot believe that ... and yet people like you still defending them ....
@fawazaltaf Yes there are orders just like all religious text books.. religion my friend is a personal matter. it is a choice you make whether to take it literary or not. they are debating islam under democracy, and as i said it is just like all other religions, if you do not respect people choices, do not cry that the west " got it all wrong" about Islam. your vision of islam is dangerous and embarrassing!
@wagnersear You must've banged Irshad'd brains out. She's talking senseless. Islam doesn't need to be reformed it needs to be eliminated. It's a violent religion created by a violent man. If Mohammad were alive today, he'd be doing life in prison
Irshad is more playful than she is on TV. We dated for two weeks. I had sex with her once and she was so sweet. She loves drinking and smokes a lot. She likes to live her life and doesn't want to think too much. This channel is not hers but one of her female friend's(did her too).
Mohammad had male and female slaves(what your right hand possess), murdered his critics, robbed caravans to support himself, engaged in incest and pedophilia, fought over 60 mindless battles, made no revelations except those which cleared him of his wrong-doings etc
@HlJAZIMAN I couldn't agree with you more. Mohammad was a David Koresh, Jim Jones and David Michell except far more ruthless. For a man who was supposed to be spiritual he did more screwing, robbing and lying than anyone else during his times.
Let's see if Irshad Manji would allow her 6 year old daughter or neiece to be raped by a self-proclaimed prophet. And does she believe as Mohammad did; that women are only half as intelligent as men? How about incest? Mohammad married his 1st cousin(also his stepson's wife). Mohammad ordered the murder of his critic Asma while she breastfed her baby. Irshad are you cool with that? Islam is a 6th century backward, Arab cult!
@MirvatS Huh?? The last I read, Israel gave a palestinian child a bone marrow transplant for free, saving his life... And days later a Muslim from Palestine shot a rocket at a jewish childs school bus...
they are right though, Islam needs reform or it wont survive the modern age. but knowing their intollerance of open thinking and debate, Islam wont reform despite modern communications exposing westerners to isalm and Muslims to the west. The Westerners will be outraged by Islamic practices like forced covering or female circumcision and Muslims will want modern liberal societies like the West (which has already began), the combination of the two will bring about the collapse of Islam
@cbluver22 First off it is intolerant not intolerent, and religion, not reilgion. Right off the bat your are showing me how stupid you are. (st-u-pi-d)
I swear you are all the same, you all throw that statistic for all your responses to criticisms, are you capable of thinking at all?
It is only growing fastest because it had a small number (I wont try and converse math with you because you are dumb). It's the fastest growing because of Muslim immigrants fleeing here. Hardly any are converts
So does correcting my spelling mistake make you feel that you can get away with spewing absoulte nonsense? Go back to your original comment and look at how YOU spelled " intollerance", before you critize my spelling.
Clearly i can't communicate with ignorant folks. The fact that you can't separate what Muslims do and what Islam states show your level of stupidity. The so called "Modern age" we live in owes a lot to Islam. Try opening a history book and educate yourself about it ;)
REZA COULD DO A LOT OF GOOD IF ONLY HE SUCCEEDS PULLING HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS ASS, BUT PERHAPS HIS TURBAN MAKES THIS A BIT HARD!!
I BET ISLAMIC REPUBLIC!!! OF IRAN PAYS HIM WELL, HOW ELSE WOULD SOMEONE LIVING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AGREES WITH CAVE DWELLERS IDEOLOGY. HE MUST BE A HYPOCRITE AS WELL, SINCE A TRUE BELIEVER OF ISLAM SHOULD PREFER TO LIVE IN DESERTS OF ARABIA LIKE HIS PEDOPHILE PROPHET AND LIVE BY RUBBING CARAVANS AND KILLING INNOCENT TRAVELERS THAN LIVE A NICE LIFE IN S.CALIFORNIA!!
Summing up what REZA says: Islam is not fit for people..it is just some much 'stuff' that comes out of his mouth manufactured in his own mind and painted with gold and encrusted with diamonds before it is vomited in order for the public to be so dazzled although they smell something funny, but they cannot really pinpoint what it is. Reza does not provide a single argument based in what you see in the Muslim world, (Islam not longer represent ARAB culture?--there's nothing more intrinsic in it !
@yakov321 He is a big QUEENNNNNN FLAMMINNNG>>>AND I can say that because I AM GAY>>>LOL He better watch his ass..I mean his HEAD...does not he know he´d be killed on the spot if he lived in the Muslim world??? He does not support anything with facts, he treats his audience as stupid people. He believes is he puts a whole bunch of nice words together and look weestern and make enough fun of people trying to warn about the danger of ISLAM, that actually he´s gonna make them believe!
@proudfemale There was greater American influence in Mubarak then any Islamic influence. His Islamic side was only a facade. Why do you think he oppressed the Muslim Brotherhood. I like how the westerneres are now distancing themselves from mubarak when for the last 30 years they supported him wholeheartedly and even funded him with something like 2 billion dollars a year. Egypt was the second highest recipient of american dollars after Egypt.
@TheOnlineSheikh yes, its about time our government STOPPED giving our tax payer dollars to muslim countries/muslims
its SICKENING not only that muslims and their countries BEG for aid...but that we give it
our govt gave 500 MILLION dollars to islamic schools in indonesia...where children are taught that hating/killing is wonderful...get rewards of virgins way up in sky
@proudfemale Whats more sickening, dont you think, is how our western government gives money to dictators in countries that are predominantly Muslim, so that these western backed dictators can kill civili rights and opposition groups. Whilst the west supplies money and weapons, the Muslims are killed.
@GoldenMoonIB I dont think Islam is being used to control the people in Iraq, Syria or Egypt. In fact, it is on Arab nationalism that these states are being controlled. All these regimes were infact responsible for suppressing any sentiments that subjects in these respective countries have for establishing an Islamic state. So they are in effect ruling states that are premised upon opposing Islamic forms of government, supported by US and western allies (Egypt and Iraq) for the most part.
what on earth makes you say cruelty/killing/barbarity is contrary to islam....your own dirty prick mohammed loved concept of torture/beheading/cruelty and had INNOCENTS murdered just because they didnnt accept what he went to offer them
remember...we KNOW what islam is,does & causes...and see for ourselves on a daily basis this MENTALITY OF KILLING
@HlJAZIMAN I think there are more barbarism in your language than anything Muslims could possibly do. You speak of subjugation. I see western states as primary subjugators. They have done it for at least past 300 years and they continue to do so. Of course, they always claim these things on civilizational and humanitarian grounds. But we all know it is nothing more then filling their own pockets with the hard work of peoples living in the the world countries.
if you open your mind, you would have left islam. how the fuck do you follow a rapist thief pedophile barbaric sex monster? how the fuck do you bow and circle a stone?? huh?? fucking pig. bow to a stone?? is allah made of stone??
@HlJAZIMAN Opening my mind bought me closer to Islam. The accusations about pedophilia is the most hypocritical accusation. If you knew what the life expectancy was in the medieval age, you would know why people married so young. I could show you numerous examples were Europeans have married girls as young as 7, although, they most consistently married girls between 12-14.
@HlJAZIMAN Barbarism is only a perception. It is a subjective opinion. Greeks called the Persians barbarians, even though the Persians were one of the major civilizations in the world at the time.
And not Muslim bow to a stone. In fact, according to Islam, the stone in the kabba has no power to take us to the heavens. Muslims only bow in that general direction keeping in mind that we are bowing to the creator. We do not have physical symbolism. Such things are for pagans, and nor Muslims.
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. I should know who my God is. If i dont worship black stone, why do you think you can impose it upon me? Perhaps it is a miconception from your part, perhaps you have been misinformed. But no Muslims believe that our God is the black stone. It is the belief of Islam that if anyone worships the stone or anything other then then creator, he/ she will go to hell.
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. I should know that my God is none of these things. You should study Islam with an open mind. I am not sure where you get your information from. But all of these are certainly wrong. Like i said, Islam does not allow paganistic forms of worship. So you really should find out more about the notion of God in Islam inshallah
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. You are a non-Muslim. My language here has been clean, and whatever i have said has been accurate according to Islam. Your language has been foul, and whatever you have said are things only the misinformed are liekly to say, If you want to learn about Islam from a Muslim, just ask. If you dont want to learn, i suggest you keep your opinions to yourself. At the end of the day, you only make yourself look bad with all these insults.
@HlJAZIMAN God is everywhere, you are right. But According to Muslim tradition, Kabba has been built by Prophet Abraham and Ismail. It is simply a focal point. If you look up the entry on wikipidea for the wor d"qibla", you will see the follow: "Muslims do not worship the Kaaba or its contents; the Kaaba is simply a focal point for prayer."
I hope that will clear up the misconception for you. We do not worship a visible material object at all. Whoever says that are just lying about Islam.
nooooo!!!! the kaaba was built by pagans and used by pagans and hindus until your pedophile thief raider mohadick conquered it and take over. fuck you liar. fucking pigshit taqiyya.
abraham and his sons never been to mecca. fuck you another lie, fucking pig liars.
muslims bow to the stone hut kaaba, cos allah the black stone the moon idol is hiding inside the hut. fuck you, stupid pagan. fucking shit pagan.
stop bowing to a stone, stop circling it, fucking stupid
@HlJAZIMAN It seems you are not well acquainted with religions. There is no evidence to support the theory that Abraham never went to Mecca. Do you know what taqiyya means? Do you know in what conditions taqyyia can be applied?
Muhammad pbuh had never conquered Mecca. When it came into Muslim hands, check the sources and show me where any person had died in the year 630 as a result of injury sustained from any battle.
@HlJAZIMAN Also, you call Muhammad pbuh "pedophile". I dont think you are well informed about the society in the middel ages. The average life span of human beings is said to be about 30. in fact, historians say only the nobility and people of scholarly background lived longer. Thus, if we say a commoner married at the age of 18 or over like we do now, then there is a very real possiblity that both could be dead by aged 30, and if they had a baby, it will be orphaned.
@HlJAZIMAN Therefore, socially, and for the survival of mankind, it would not have made sense for people in the pre-industrial societies to have married at the age of 18 or over. In fact, in Europe, before 1875, the law stated that to marry, you only had to be 12 and over. IN the mediaval era, there were no age limit. So pedophilia is based upon the premises of what your secular modern government tells u, even though in every whestern country, this age differes.
@HlJAZIMAN About marrying a 6 year old, he did not consumate the marriage until years later. Did you know that the consumation of their marriage was actually two years later then the accepted practices of marriage across the globe.
Did you know that in the bible, isaac was 40 when he married rebekka who was only three years old. We Muslims dont believe that because the criteria is based on puberty. At least we have a natural criteria.
@HlJAZIMAN Muhammad pbuh did not such thing. It is pointless talking to someone who clearly fabricates lies. So i am done with you. May Allah guide you to guidance if that is his will.
if you have a brain, you would have left islam. why would you bow to a black stone? circle it??why would you follow the evil life of a greedy thief rapist pedophile sea maniac mohamed?? huh?????
there is no god in islam, its only a black stone and the old pagan moon idol allah, or al-ilah, or sin, hubal and his 3 daughters.
@HlJAZIMAN I have a brain and that is why I came to Islam. I became more practicising when I went to university. This is because I opened my mind to the whole host of books and primary literatures on Islam.
Show me one ayah from the Quran where Muslims worship a moon idol, or 3 daughters. Allah simply means god. You ask an arab christian how they say God. They will tell you it is Allah. So if pagans in pre-Islamic arabia worshipped many gods, they may or may not have called one of these Allah.
@HlJAZIMAN In the 12th century Gratian, the influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted age of puberty for marriage to be between twelve and fourteen but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than seven. That means, if parents consented, their child usually got married at the age of 7. In Arabia and in sub-saharan africa, girls are not like girls in Europe. They reach maturity even earlier.
@HlJAZIMAN So when you insult Prophet Muhammad pbuh, you are also insulting your great ancestors. You are also the product of "pedophilia" by your own admission since we know historically, men married girls as young as 7.
@HlJAZIMAN I am not entirely convinced you have made any efforts at reading my answer. We do not worship blackstone and Muhammad pbuh is not a pedophile. I have shown you evidence to the contrary. The only sick people are bigots who avoids reading the evidence. Tell me, are all your male ancestors pedophiles pre-1875?
@HlJAZIMAN Mohammad pbuh was not a pedophile, or else, you are also by your own admission the product of thousands of years of pedophilia perpetrated by your male ancestors.
We do not circle the black stone. We circle the Kabbah. Kabbah is just a symbol, its a centre of gravity. There are 1.6-1.9 billion Muslims. Not a single worship the backstone or the kabba. You are the only person who believes that. That shows your ignorance.
@HlJAZIMAN And Pig is forbidden in Islam. So if anyone is a pig-shit, it certainly is not a Muslim person. So you should refrain from using profaine language. Someone once told me, you are what you eat, you are what you say, and the company you keep is a reflection of the person you are. I think a lot can be taken from this.
"Pig shit" and a Muslim are in the opposite end of the spectrum.
@HlJAZIMAN Actually, pigs eat anything and everything. They even eat other pigs if it was offered. Muslims do not eat pig because it is unclean. In fact, Muslims wont even go near a pig. Hygiene is of utmost importance in Islam. When the western word did not have paved roads, the Islamic world had bath houses, steams rooms, and gardens of fountains.
@HlJAZIMAN Human beings are not perfect. That is teh whole point. You work your way towads salvation. You dont get everything on the plate. And circumcision is not exclusive to Islam alone. It is compulsory for Jews and Christians should do it as well. But christians do not follow Jesus pbuh. Instead, they follow paul.
dont worry about the christians, i dont care what they believe, at least the christians follow the sinless man jesus, unlike you pigshit follow the pedophile thief mohamed. so fuck you
@HlJAZIMAN Islam is not a cult of death. It is the fastest growing religion in the world. It gives life and spirituality to people. The fastest cause of death in the US is cononary heart disease. It costs 400,000 lives in US. Terrorism took 3000 life in the last decade in the US. Yet, america spends 161 billion on a so-called war on terror, killing innocent Muslims, and only spends about 2 billion on fighting coronoary heart disease.
I dont think I am. I am very well educated. I dont worship stone. It seems like you are having problems reading what i wrote. Which part of "we do not worship stone" do you not understand. I adivise you read the Quran with an open mind. I am not even asking you to be a Muslim. Just free yourself from darkness that clouds your thinking.
@HlJAZIMAN OKay, to clear the misconception about the stone, here is an authentic hadith from Islamic cources.
Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
As you can see, the stone is not something that we worship.
my dog's name is jesus. i name him after jesus, cos jesus was a kind man. if i have a pig i would call him mohamed. not that the pig is evil, but pigs are dirty like muslims and mohamed.
sorry if i offend you, but you deserve it, cos you are a pig yourself. and you follow an evil mohamed
@HlJAZIMAN He never had sex with a dead women, he never wanted to marry a 2 years old baby, he never raped anyone, and he did not have sex with his son's wife.
@HlJAZIMAN There is nothing to defend. I could defend something if what I am defending against were legitimate claims. But all your claims are outright lies.
So who is your creator. Do you have a scripture that you believe in?
just ask yourself, why would god send a man who fucked children raped slaves, had sex with son's wife, robbed caravans, killed and murder, take 20% war spoils and lootings. why would a god send such a human to be a role model for mankind.?? why would god create a human and requir you to cut off the foreskin, why would god want you to face kaaba when praying? circle it and bow to a rock?? this mean that your imaginary pig allah is a pagan deity
@HlJAZIMAN There is no point in addressing something to someone when they are too stupid to read what is being written. You ask yourself, why do the whole islamic world not believe in blackstone, and why you insist that Muslims do? Is it because you are a reatard who cannot read?
@HlJAZIMAN You see, i have religious belief. My religious beliefs prevent me from insulting others with "f***, pigs, among many of the things you have said. On the other hand, your belief, whatever that maybe have been a great influence in the filthy language that you use. You are the product of your belief, whatever that maybe. I am the product of my belief. That is why i am well mannered, civilised human being. And that is why you are full of hatred.
@HlJAZIMAN Regardless of who you speak to, if you were not influenced by your faith, then you would not have use such insulting language. You obviously use it because my religion opposes your world view.
So, are you an christian, jew, hindu, bhuddist, sikh, agnost? Why are you ashamed? If you were not ashamed of what you are, you would give me a straightforward answer. You are a coward who even hides his channel.
@HlJAZIMAN Are you ashamed of who you are? Its okay. Islam can help you change to become a better person. And you no longer have to feel hatred towards your opponents. You can just debate like a civilised human being.
@HlJAZIMAN So you are ashamed of your religion, even though you tried your best to circumvent the question with your answer before. So tell me, why will you not tell me what religion you are from? Are you embarassed? Why are you hiding your channel? Are you a coward?
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Is this the lady who thinks "houris" are raisins ?
Is she really a lesbian ?
sardanapolis 6 days ago
@smredneck0 If Sam Harris was in there he would school both of them.
44warjunkie 1 month ago
@44warjunkie u r absolutely right....
TheRajibmondal 1 month ago
It's not important what islam is! It is important what islamo nuts are doing using islam and quran around the world. Islam and quran may be good but that's out of track now. They have been using to kill people. without islam world would have been less violent.
TheRajibmondal 1 month ago
@TheRajibmondal Muslim discourse is currently a tissue of myths, conspiracy theories, and exhortations to recapture the glories of the 7th century. There is no reason to believe that economic and political improvements in the Muslim world would remedy this. I suspect that Muslim prosperity might even make matters worse, because the only thing that seems likely to persuade most Muslims that their worldview is problematic is the demonstrable failure of their societies.
44warjunkie 1 month ago 2
I AGREE WITH IRSHAD MANJI
nahiddanish 2 months ago
Both debaters are articulate and intelligent. I would urge them to read books on cosmology, mathematics, evolution, genetics, archaeology, biology, and anthropology. If they did so studiously, they would throw out religion entirely and lead free and productive lives.
n52nimbus 3 months ago
@n52nimbus
this is the dumbest sientist comment i've ever read
algrand90 2 months ago
She is only saying what appeals to already brainwashed Americans on Islam. Her quest for liberal reform of Islam just does not make any sense. She wants to change the Islam that terrorist follow but the problem is MAJORITY of the Muslims are already libreal. Than what is she trying to change? Islam does not need to be changed but rather the few people-terrorist. She is also NOT a scholar on Islam, that does not help either. She only get attention frompeople who are anti-Islam and few muslims.
gobuddyboy 3 months ago
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Aslan is an apologist and is welcome Iran because of it. His book No god but God is a perfect example of whitewashing the violent and unsupportable aspects of Islam. The book has very little academic documentation,,,the first sign of poor scholarship.
greenarcher180 4 months ago
Naturaly that she is complaining on Qur'an and religion just by her sexual choice. She would do same if she is a "christian".Like this she found good source of money. Westerners are so stupid and they can not see this game. But we as a Muslims have to be grateful ti Irshad because Allah said that Islam will spread and with mouth of worst people in the world. This is just free advartisement.
atomac23 4 months ago 2
@atomac23 did allah take a marketing class with Satan? he seams have some idea about how to market his last book.
Nietzschean1000 3 weeks ago
@Nietzschean1000 what are you talking about. You should think more about yor sexual maniac Nietzsche.Go and read something useful to humankind.
atomac23 3 weeks ago
Look at Manji nod her head in agreement as if she is not being refuted by Dr. Aslan.lol
CCSF1999 5 months ago
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CCSF1999 5 months ago
Irshad keeps attacking Islam and insisting on saying that she is a Moslem!!!
She is not a moslem, She doesnt go to Mosque on fridays, She commits adultery that is a sin in islam. She never went to an Imam to marry her lesbian partner.
Screen0001 5 months ago
@Screen0001 thats why islam is a scary ass religion......
TheRajibmondal 1 month ago
@TheRajibmondal , I think that you are speaking out of hatred not knowledge. What scares you -actually- not Islam but ignorance. Education is always a good thing!
Screen0001 1 month ago
@Screen0001 I read quran, bible, gita. quran says killing non muslims page after page after page. Your treatment towards women is barbaric and tyrant. So take your religion and shove it up your behind.
TheRajibmondal 1 month ago
@TheRajibmondal I can't verify that you have read any book. But I can tell you that your conclusions are non scientific and based on hatred toward Islam and religion in general. I still insist on "Education is a good thing". Reading is not enough, you need to have the ability to understand and discuss matters in a civilized way. Remember this is year 2012.
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Screen0001 5 months ago
reza is a sniveling deceitful little filth
mohammmadtouchedboys 5 months ago
she so wants 2 suck rezas dick ahah
exec9292 5 months ago
Irshad Manji is a lesbian (sinner!)
MobHeataEnt 5 months ago
All this talk of faith is retarded. Mohammad deceived his iliterate followers into believing he spoke to Angels. In this day and age if you believe Mohammad then you ought to be locked up. What's worst is these Muslim retards are teaching their children that Mohammad was all things good.
lemmieatit 5 months ago
@fawazaltaf Muslims should be the last to talk about promiscuity. Profit MohaMmad never saw a female he didn't want to screw. Whether it was his aunt, a cousin, his daughter in law, his 6 year niece-If she had a vagina, Mohammad wanted it.
lemmieatit 5 months ago
@lemmieatit great argument as usual from every christian who does not know shit about his own religion and its history. i would love to respond but your comment (so as Fawaz Altaf) is just babbling. your point is really difficult to define. if Christianity (as you probably indicating) spread freedom and democracy, why countries in Latin America, Africa, east Europe and Russia are not democratic? while countries like Turkey and indonesia are?
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@fawazaltaf Satan would be happy if Islam spreads to the corners of the earth. I hope I'm not around to witness the spread of that mental disease. Your Profit Mohammad was a lying bastard-a known fact. That's why he was poisoned by one of his own. Even his youngest rape victim, Aisha commented on how his alter ego Allah was "always in a rush to appease the pedophile." Muslims are mental cases who need to be detoxed. Look at the state of Muslim countries.
lemmieatit 5 months ago
Yes, the opinion of a lesbian "Muslim" on Islam, (despite the fact that she doesn't believe in the Quran at all).
the only Islam islam-haters want is a secular Islam, nothing all. If that is what anyone is hoping then let me warn you and say that that isn't going to happen any time soon.
Good luck on trying to "understand" Islam from confused apostates like Irshad!
cbluver22 6 months ago
@cbluver22 you don't have the right to call Irshad "not muslim" because she is a lesbian. even the quran consider homosexuality a sin, it is not a an infidelity.
Alkindi90 5 months ago
A panel of unintelligent elitist discussing a retarded ideology. Do you really believe any word of Islam's pedophile prophet's revelations? Here's a man that killed, engaged in incest, raped, and robbed-and you wonder why The Mid-East is still in the dark ages. To this day, asshole Muslims continue the practice of marrying their 1st cousin(some girls as young as 9). Great religion!
lemmieatit 6 months ago
@lemmieatit This is why in the west you find all those 8- 13 or even younger single mothers (in hundred of thousands if not more) with STDs running in the streets having six with you and others plus all those porn for underage girls, how corrupt this westren society in comparison to a muslim family .. middle east DOES NOT represent ISLAM the fastest growing religion IN THE WORLD (TRUE FACT) that will dominate the face of earth in just few years ..just read Quraan . thanks Allah i am a muslim
fawazaltaf 5 months ago
ahahaha, a little fag and a little lesbian critizing Islam.
UNJUSTIFICATION1 6 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 how are they in any shape and form criticizing Islam you stupid fuck?
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 u mother fucker, i meant critizing to reform it. u little bitch.
UNJUSTIFICATION1 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 that is irhsad manji! reza didn't say anything about reforming!
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 if they didn't say anything bout reforming , then ur mind is diseased.. go fuck urself,,, they want to make their own religion , fine do it.. but don't mess with Islam, u will be cursed , just like the west is being cursed by their economic downturn.. u will see the west fall on its ass and die...
UNJUSTIFICATION1 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 aha! ok so Islam is a religion of peace? and if you hate the west so much why do you live in it? but you again you paki tard, i said Irshad manji is the one who is talking about "reforming". Aslan opposes such stand. and you would figure that out if you actually watched to the debate. nobody is talking about making a new religion and your stupidity plays in the hand of islam bashers you paki shithead!
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 , u little mother fucker, ur spitting ur venom at me?? fine.. Islam didn't kill 2 million iraqis and 1 million afghans the past 10 years. your fake democracy and Fake enduring freedom of the west did.. Islam didn't make 9/11 happen, it was the ELITE, CORPORATISM OF AMERICAN ZIONIST LOBBIEST THAT INSURED THE TWIN TOWERS THEN RAN 2 PLANES INTO THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE AN EXCUSE TO INVADE COUNTRIES AND LOOT AND STEAL LIKE AMERICAN SNAKES ALWAYS DO .
UNJUSTIFICATION1 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 oh my god! just because i don't hate America does not mean i support the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. does not mean i like the blind for Israel. does not mean i agree with the right wing polices and their hypocrisy and religious fanaticism that is as dangerous as yours! and about 9/11, no i do believe that the hijackers were Muslims just like the KKK, the crusades, the European colonists were Christians. however, it would be foolish to think that islam solely motivated them
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 , yeh yeh... u trying to share ground here? save it. muslims didn't do 9/11.. its all fake,, i don't believe it for a minute. if the muslims did it , they are obviously in bed with officals in us government .. if u can deny dat, then its best for u to stop talking about this subject. i don't hate america , i hate the zionist regime in american government destroying america.. you think they are working for american interests? lol they are destroying american economy.
UNJUSTIFICATION1 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 HA! i was planing to argue with a dumb christian but its been too long to since i owned a pathetic paki. i'm not to trying to reach a COMMON ground with you. that is why i believe. everyone in the world saw the planes crashing into the world trade center. bin laden said he was responsible. they were muslims. it is foolish to they they were not. it is as foolish as saying that Andrea Brevick is not a christian. and i never said that the AIPAC is working for America's interest.
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you either provide the same exact quotes of me saying that i support the war in iraq and Afghanistan, or think that the "Zionist" government is working for America's interest. i didn't even say a word of that kind, yet you responded to something i didn't even bring up! typical..
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you know i was actually with reza before you opened your mouth. you do realize that you are proving Irshad's point,right? i don't really understand why Pakistani are usually the most insufferable among all Muslims? the most radical of all? if you hate the west and look at the world as "believers" and "infidels" (just like many Christians do but they are not so stupid to actually admit it) live in Pakistan! it's pretty easy..
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 ,how else should i look at the world? if i say 1 person is a muslim and another is non muslim , (non believer) .. what is your problem? what do u want me to say ,, everyone is a believer , should i just fade out concepts and meaning of words?? r u being soo liberal that its turning ur arguments very stupid and illogical. if u don't have a strong statement to make , give it a rest.. u little kid.
UNJUSTIFICATION1 5 months ago
@UNJUSTIFICATION1 you should look to the world as human beings regardless of their religious affiliations. nobody told you to look at them as believers (Muslims). the problem is when you create your entire world view and judgment based on that. than we have a problem. because not all Muslims are pakis for example. there are cultural, lingual. political, and racial differences between us you know, even if it happens that we believe in the same religion.
Alkindi90 5 months ago
where is Islam in Iran or Yoghanda or Canada or USA in comparison to Saudi Arabia where MILLIONS of people spent their entire life learning about it ..PhDs in certain verses .. and yet those two people speaks in its behalf , it is like listening to general practitioner or medical student speaking about brain surgery where he/she knows ONLY marginal topics and yet never been or did any surgery .. and yet people like us listening to them thinking they are the best brain surgeons in the world
fawazaltaf 7 months ago
@fawazaltaf well, i'm afraid it's not that simple. just because somebody from Saudi Arabia does not mean he is well informed about islam or even represent Islam. you realize your comment plays in the hand of haters and islam bashers. because every attempt to demonize islam and muslims around the world they use the saudi example. Reza Aslan is a muslim and have every right to speak his mind regarding the future of islam. this is right is not exclusive to indoctrinated saudis..
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@Alkindi90 My friend ... there are OBVIOUS HALAL AND HARAM IN ISLAM ... these SHOULD NOT have debate since ALL scholars (irrespective of nationality) agree on that as they were STATED CLEARLY IN QURAAN..... these people debate that ... can you imagine someone permitting non Muslim man marry Muslim women because they love each other .... i cannot believe that ... and yet people like you still defending them ....
fawazaltaf 5 months ago
@fawazaltaf Yes there are orders just like all religious text books.. religion my friend is a personal matter. it is a choice you make whether to take it literary or not. they are debating islam under democracy, and as i said it is just like all other religions, if you do not respect people choices, do not cry that the west " got it all wrong" about Islam. your vision of islam is dangerous and embarrassing!
Alkindi90 5 months ago
@wagnersear You must've banged Irshad'd brains out. She's talking senseless. Islam doesn't need to be reformed it needs to be eliminated. It's a violent religion created by a violent man. If Mohammad were alive today, he'd be doing life in prison
lemmieatit 8 months ago
No, it's true. You want to hang around?
wagnersear 8 months ago
Irshad is more playful than she is on TV. We dated for two weeks. I had sex with her once and she was so sweet. She loves drinking and smokes a lot. She likes to live her life and doesn't want to think too much. This channel is not hers but one of her female friend's(did her too).
wagnersear 9 months ago
@wagnersear
Worst trolling I've seen in a while.
OriginalMindTrick 8 months ago
Mohammad had male and female slaves(what your right hand possess), murdered his critics, robbed caravans to support himself, engaged in incest and pedophilia, fought over 60 mindless battles, made no revelations except those which cleared him of his wrong-doings etc
lemmieatit 9 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I couldn't agree with you more. Mohammad was a David Koresh, Jim Jones and David Michell except far more ruthless. For a man who was supposed to be spiritual he did more screwing, robbing and lying than anyone else during his times.
lemmieatit 9 months ago
Let's see if Irshad Manji would allow her 6 year old daughter or neiece to be raped by a self-proclaimed prophet. And does she believe as Mohammad did; that women are only half as intelligent as men? How about incest? Mohammad married his 1st cousin(also his stepson's wife). Mohammad ordered the murder of his critic Asma while she breastfed her baby. Irshad are you cool with that? Islam is a 6th century backward, Arab cult!
lemmieatit 9 months ago
How about we reform monsters like Israel? Who kill thousands of children?
Losers.
MirvatS 9 months ago
@MirvatS Huh?? The last I read, Israel gave a palestinian child a bone marrow transplant for free, saving his life... And days later a Muslim from Palestine shot a rocket at a jewish childs school bus...
IslamISsick1 9 months ago
they are right though, Islam needs reform or it wont survive the modern age. but knowing their intollerance of open thinking and debate, Islam wont reform despite modern communications exposing westerners to isalm and Muslims to the west. The Westerners will be outraged by Islamic practices like forced covering or female circumcision and Muslims will want modern liberal societies like the West (which has already began), the combination of the two will bring about the collapse of Islam
kyle887923 10 months ago
@kyle887923
weird since this "intolerent" reilgion is the fastest growing reilgion among westerners.
cbluver22 6 months ago
@cbluver22 First off it is intolerant not intolerent, and religion, not reilgion. Right off the bat your are showing me how stupid you are. (st-u-pi-d)
I swear you are all the same, you all throw that statistic for all your responses to criticisms, are you capable of thinking at all?
It is only growing fastest because it had a small number (I wont try and converse math with you because you are dumb). It's the fastest growing because of Muslim immigrants fleeing here. Hardly any are converts
kyle887923 6 months ago
@kyle887923
So does correcting my spelling mistake make you feel that you can get away with spewing absoulte nonsense? Go back to your original comment and look at how YOU spelled " intollerance", before you critize my spelling.
Clearly i can't communicate with ignorant folks. The fact that you can't separate what Muslims do and what Islam states show your level of stupidity. The so called "Modern age" we live in owes a lot to Islam. Try opening a history book and educate yourself about it ;)
cbluver22 6 months ago
I asked you two questions.
DO you have a scripture you believe in?
Or Are you an agnost?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
I love how some people come on this video and don't even watch the video before dropping a comment, which sometimes really has no relevance...
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
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TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
She is zionist paid whore and street prostitute
zwaannangyali 11 months ago
Respond to this video... How is this relevant to what is being discussed in the video?
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
nice to see Reza get his ass kicked by an Intelligent Muslim woman
yakov321 1 year ago
REZA COULD DO A LOT OF GOOD IF ONLY HE SUCCEEDS PULLING HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS ASS, BUT PERHAPS HIS TURBAN MAKES THIS A BIT HARD!!
I BET ISLAMIC REPUBLIC!!! OF IRAN PAYS HIM WELL, HOW ELSE WOULD SOMEONE LIVING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AGREES WITH CAVE DWELLERS IDEOLOGY. HE MUST BE A HYPOCRITE AS WELL, SINCE A TRUE BELIEVER OF ISLAM SHOULD PREFER TO LIVE IN DESERTS OF ARABIA LIKE HIS PEDOPHILE PROPHET AND LIVE BY RUBBING CARAVANS AND KILLING INNOCENT TRAVELERS THAN LIVE A NICE LIFE IN S.CALIFORNIA!!
backgammonmaster 1 year ago
irshad manji is so cute . I love her so much . She is beauuuuuuuuuuuuuuutifulll .
xoxoxoxo
TAIMOOR82 1 year ago
Summing up what REZA says: Islam is not fit for people..it is just some much 'stuff' that comes out of his mouth manufactured in his own mind and painted with gold and encrusted with diamonds before it is vomited in order for the public to be so dazzled although they smell something funny, but they cannot really pinpoint what it is. Reza does not provide a single argument based in what you see in the Muslim world, (Islam not longer represent ARAB culture?--there's nothing more intrinsic in it !
BetuliaLiberata 1 year ago
@BetuliaLiberata - Reza is an idiot.......he actually said that except for Iran, there is no Theocracy in Islam.
So Reza.......?? what the fuck is Sharia Law? they don't have that in Saudi Arabia?? Iraq? Syria? Egypt?
Shall I go on.......?? I can't believe this dumb Islamist fuck, actually is a professor
yakov321 1 year ago
@yakov321 He is a big QUEENNNNNN FLAMMINNNG>>>AND I can say that because I AM GAY>>>LOL He better watch his ass..I mean his HEAD...does not he know he´d be killed on the spot if he lived in the Muslim world??? He does not support anything with facts, he treats his audience as stupid people. He believes is he puts a whole bunch of nice words together and look weestern and make enough fun of people trying to warn about the danger of ISLAM, that actually he´s gonna make them believe!
BetuliaLiberata 1 year ago
@yakov321 I dont think you have heard what he said. Hear what he said again before you start insulting.
Egypt, Iraq and Syria were never run by religious leaders. Their leaders were secular.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh purleeze...theyre muslim leaders, males who are controlled by islam
proudfemale 11 months ago
@proudfemale There was greater American influence in Mubarak then any Islamic influence. His Islamic side was only a facade. Why do you think he oppressed the Muslim Brotherhood. I like how the westerneres are now distancing themselves from mubarak when for the last 30 years they supported him wholeheartedly and even funded him with something like 2 billion dollars a year. Egypt was the second highest recipient of american dollars after Egypt.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh yes, its about time our government STOPPED giving our tax payer dollars to muslim countries/muslims
its SICKENING not only that muslims and their countries BEG for aid...but that we give it
our govt gave 500 MILLION dollars to islamic schools in indonesia...where children are taught that hating/killing is wonderful...get rewards of virgins way up in sky
proudfemale 11 months ago
@proudfemale Whats more sickening, dont you think, is how our western government gives money to dictators in countries that are predominantly Muslim, so that these western backed dictators can kill civili rights and opposition groups. Whilst the west supplies money and weapons, the Muslims are killed.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@proudfemale Furthemore, syrian leader is not a Muslim.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
Iraq under saddam was nothing to do with islam. It was a nationalist form of government, contrary to Islam.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh Don't you think that leaders in the middle east have used islam as a way of controlling the people?
GoldenMoonIB 11 months ago
@GoldenMoonIB I dont think Islam is being used to control the people in Iraq, Syria or Egypt. In fact, it is on Arab nationalism that these states are being controlled. All these regimes were infact responsible for suppressing any sentiments that subjects in these respective countries have for establishing an Islamic state. So they are in effect ruling states that are premised upon opposing Islamic forms of government, supported by US and western allies (Egypt and Iraq) for the most part.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh NONSENSE - he 'was' muslim
what on earth makes you say cruelty/killing/barbarity is contrary to islam....your own dirty prick mohammed loved concept of torture/beheading/cruelty and had INNOCENTS murdered just because they didnnt accept what he went to offer them
remember...we KNOW what islam is,does & causes...and see for ourselves on a daily basis this MENTALITY OF KILLING
proudfemale 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you are a fucking pigshit
islam is barbaric, just look at mohamed the thief rapist pedophile liar and subjugator.
so fuck you pig
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I think there are more barbarism in your language than anything Muslims could possibly do. You speak of subjugation. I see western states as primary subjugators. They have done it for at least past 300 years and they continue to do so. Of course, they always claim these things on civilizational and humanitarian grounds. But we all know it is nothing more then filling their own pockets with the hard work of peoples living in the the world countries.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohampig was the barbaric subjugator.
and you fucking love and follow this scuk filthy sex monster.
fuck you pig
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN It is pointless speaking to people who have no knowledge about a subject is what I have been told by my professor once. Wise words indeed.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
if you open your mind, you would have left islam. how the fuck do you follow a rapist thief pedophile barbaric sex monster? how the fuck do you bow and circle a stone?? huh?? fucking pig. bow to a stone?? is allah made of stone??
fuck you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Opening my mind bought me closer to Islam. The accusations about pedophilia is the most hypocritical accusation. If you knew what the life expectancy was in the medieval age, you would know why people married so young. I could show you numerous examples were Europeans have married girls as young as 7, although, they most consistently married girls between 12-14.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Barbarism is only a perception. It is a subjective opinion. Greeks called the Persians barbarians, even though the Persians were one of the major civilizations in the world at the time.
And not Muslim bow to a stone. In fact, according to Islam, the stone in the kabba has no power to take us to the heavens. Muslims only bow in that general direction keeping in mind that we are bowing to the creator. We do not have physical symbolism. Such things are for pagans, and nor Muslims.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
the black stone is your god, thats why you bow to it. the quran mention, bow to none but allah. so stop denying. allah is the black stone
you pig muslims are the real pagans.
tell me who bows to a stone? mountain? nobody, except you pig muslim, circling a stone. haha. LOL
you fucking pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. I should know who my God is. If i dont worship black stone, why do you think you can impose it upon me? Perhaps it is a miconception from your part, perhaps you have been misinformed. But no Muslims believe that our God is the black stone. It is the belief of Islam that if anyone worships the stone or anything other then then creator, he/ she will go to hell.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
your god is a black stone. he is not a god. he is a small pig with a small penis.
stop your delusion, do not bow to a stone. do not circle a stone.
stop being a pagan . you fucking pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. I should know that my God is none of these things. You should study Islam with an open mind. I am not sure where you get your information from. But all of these are certainly wrong. Like i said, Islam does not allow paganistic forms of worship. So you really should find out more about the notion of God in Islam inshallah
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
allah the pig black stone
you fucking idiot bow to a stone.
god is everywhere. why do muslims face mecca?? cos that is where allah the stone hides. inside the stone hut.
fucking pagans, nobody believe your story. fuck off
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I am a Muslim. You are a non-Muslim. My language here has been clean, and whatever i have said has been accurate according to Islam. Your language has been foul, and whatever you have said are things only the misinformed are liekly to say, If you want to learn about Islam from a Muslim, just ask. If you dont want to learn, i suggest you keep your opinions to yourself. At the end of the day, you only make yourself look bad with all these insults.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN God is everywhere, you are right. But According to Muslim tradition, Kabba has been built by Prophet Abraham and Ismail. It is simply a focal point. If you look up the entry on wikipidea for the wor d"qibla", you will see the follow: "Muslims do not worship the Kaaba or its contents; the Kaaba is simply a focal point for prayer."
I hope that will clear up the misconception for you. We do not worship a visible material object at all. Whoever says that are just lying about Islam.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
nooooo!!!! the kaaba was built by pagans and used by pagans and hindus until your pedophile thief raider mohadick conquered it and take over. fuck you liar. fucking pigshit taqiyya.
abraham and his sons never been to mecca. fuck you another lie, fucking pig liars.
muslims bow to the stone hut kaaba, cos allah the black stone the moon idol is hiding inside the hut. fuck you, stupid pagan. fucking shit pagan.
stop bowing to a stone, stop circling it, fucking stupid
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN It seems you are not well acquainted with religions. There is no evidence to support the theory that Abraham never went to Mecca. Do you know what taqiyya means? Do you know in what conditions taqyyia can be applied?
Muhammad pbuh had never conquered Mecca. When it came into Muslim hands, check the sources and show me where any person had died in the year 630 as a result of injury sustained from any battle.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Also, you call Muhammad pbuh "pedophile". I dont think you are well informed about the society in the middel ages. The average life span of human beings is said to be about 30. in fact, historians say only the nobility and people of scholarly background lived longer. Thus, if we say a commoner married at the age of 18 or over like we do now, then there is a very real possiblity that both could be dead by aged 30, and if they had a baby, it will be orphaned.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Therefore, socially, and for the survival of mankind, it would not have made sense for people in the pre-industrial societies to have married at the age of 18 or over. In fact, in Europe, before 1875, the law stated that to marry, you only had to be 12 and over. IN the mediaval era, there were no age limit. So pedophilia is based upon the premises of what your secular modern government tells u, even though in every whestern country, this age differes.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohamed was a real pedophile.
would you allow your 6 yr old sister to marry a 54 yr old man?? huh??
he was a sex maniac, he wanted a hairless baby. he was a sick cunt, a bastard, bacteria, scum filthy motherfucker
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN About marrying a 6 year old, he did not consumate the marriage until years later. Did you know that the consumation of their marriage was actually two years later then the accepted practices of marriage across the globe.
Did you know that in the bible, isaac was 40 when he married rebekka who was only three years old. We Muslims dont believe that because the criteria is based on puberty. At least we have a natural criteria.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohamed also fucked a dead woma in the grave
sick sick bastra
and he also had sex with his son's wife
its called adultery. you stupid fool, fuck you
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Muhammad pbuh did not such thing. It is pointless talking to someone who clearly fabricates lies. So i am done with you. May Allah guide you to guidance if that is his will.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you stupid pighead
quran mention, " allah does not guide non muslims
so fuck you, yet another stupid statement from a deluded stupid ignorant muslims
fuck you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Show me which verse says Allah does not guide non-Muslims?
I will clarify that verse for you
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
if you have a brain, you would have left islam. why would you bow to a black stone? circle it??why would you follow the evil life of a greedy thief rapist pedophile sea maniac mohamed?? huh?????
there is no god in islam, its only a black stone and the old pagan moon idol allah, or al-ilah, or sin, hubal and his 3 daughters.
so fuck you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I have a brain and that is why I came to Islam. I became more practicising when I went to university. This is because I opened my mind to the whole host of books and primary literatures on Islam.
Show me one ayah from the Quran where Muslims worship a moon idol, or 3 daughters. Allah simply means god. You ask an arab christian how they say God. They will tell you it is Allah. So if pagans in pre-Islamic arabia worshipped many gods, they may or may not have called one of these Allah.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you did not go to islam
it was forced onto you when you couldnt even make a choice
it was forced onto you idiot at birth
and you are stucked, cannot question it, and just follow blindly
fuck you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN But if they did call it Allah, this does not detract the oneness of Allah that Muslims believe.
surah 112: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
Maybe you should open your mind a little, and inshallah, you will be better informed about the true beauty of Islam.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN In the 12th century Gratian, the influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted age of puberty for marriage to be between twelve and fourteen but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than seven. That means, if parents consented, their child usually got married at the age of 7. In Arabia and in sub-saharan africa, girls are not like girls in Europe. They reach maturity even earlier.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you cannot defend a pedophile mohamed
all you can do is deny and lie
but the quran, hadith and sunnah exposes the evil bastard mohamed (aka hitler)
fuck you pigshit. stupid islam, you will burn in hell with mmohamed
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN So when you insult Prophet Muhammad pbuh, you are also insulting your great ancestors. You are also the product of "pedophilia" by your own admission since we know historically, men married girls as young as 7.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
whats your answer??
pagan muslim, worshipping a black stone?? huh??
and following the pedophile mohamed's evil antics.
sick sick sick bastard pigs
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN I am not entirely convinced you have made any efforts at reading my answer. We do not worship blackstone and Muhammad pbuh is not a pedophile. I have shown you evidence to the contrary. The only sick people are bigots who avoids reading the evidence. Tell me, are all your male ancestors pedophiles pre-1875?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohamed was a pedophile
you worship a black stone
otherwise, why do you face mecca when praying? why do you circle the black stone and bow to it?? huh?? fucking pig shit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Mohammad pbuh was not a pedophile, or else, you are also by your own admission the product of thousands of years of pedophilia perpetrated by your male ancestors.
We do not circle the black stone. We circle the Kabbah. Kabbah is just a symbol, its a centre of gravity. There are 1.6-1.9 billion Muslims. Not a single worship the backstone or the kabba. You are the only person who believes that. That shows your ignorance.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
muslims bow to a stone
what a bunch of stupid fuckheads
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohamed the 100% pedophile, rapist thief robber liar hallucinator talking to satan. fuck you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN And Pig is forbidden in Islam. So if anyone is a pig-shit, it certainly is not a Muslim person. So you should refrain from using profaine language. Someone once told me, you are what you eat, you are what you say, and the company you keep is a reflection of the person you are. I think a lot can be taken from this.
"Pig shit" and a Muslim are in the opposite end of the spectrum.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
muslims are pigs. thats why they dont eat pork.
i wonder why did your fucking allah create the pigs?? huh??
and why didnt allah create a perfect human?? and need pigs like you to cut off the foreskin??
huh??? fuck you
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Actually, pigs eat anything and everything. They even eat other pigs if it was offered. Muslims do not eat pig because it is unclean. In fact, Muslims wont even go near a pig. Hygiene is of utmost importance in Islam. When the western word did not have paved roads, the Islamic world had bath houses, steams rooms, and gardens of fountains.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
islamic countries are the poorest dirtiest and down trodded place in the world. brought on by their stupid islamic crap
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
muslims are the dirtiest cunt. they have the lowest life span of any people on earth. fuck you pig shit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Human beings are not perfect. That is teh whole point. You work your way towads salvation. You dont get everything on the plate. And circumcision is not exclusive to Islam alone. It is compulsory for Jews and Christians should do it as well. But christians do not follow Jesus pbuh. Instead, they follow paul.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
dont worry about the christians, i dont care what they believe, at least the christians follow the sinless man jesus, unlike you pigshit follow the pedophile thief mohamed. so fuck you
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
leave islam the cult of death, suicide sex reward and pedophile mohamed.
why follow a thief mohamdcko?
why worship a stone??
why be so stupid??
why ? why?? dumbfuck
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Islam is not a cult of death. It is the fastest growing religion in the world. It gives life and spirituality to people. The fastest cause of death in the US is cononary heart disease. It costs 400,000 lives in US. Terrorism took 3000 life in the last decade in the US. Yet, america spends 161 billion on a so-called war on terror, killing innocent Muslims, and only spends about 2 billion on fighting coronoary heart disease.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Did you call me "dumb-fuck"
I dont think I am. I am very well educated. I dont worship stone. It seems like you are having problems reading what i wrote. Which part of "we do not worship stone" do you not understand. I adivise you read the Quran with an open mind. I am not even asking you to be a Muslim. Just free yourself from darkness that clouds your thinking.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN OKay, to clear the misconception about the stone, here is an authentic hadith from Islamic cources.
Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
As you can see, the stone is not something that we worship.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
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@TheOnlineSheikh
my dog's name is jesus. i name him after jesus, cos jesus was a kind man. if i have a pig i would call him mohamed. not that the pig is evil, but pigs are dirty like muslims and mohamed.
sorry if i offend you, but you deserve it, cos you are a pig yourself. and you follow an evil mohamed
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
islamic circumcision is an insult to your pig allah, which mention in the stupid quran, " and he created another perfect human.
so fuck you idiot, giving illogical answer. fuck off pig
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN How is circumcision an insult to Allah when the order for it comes from Allah?
Allah is showing Muslims how to be clean just as he had done with the children of Israel.
You speak of "illogical"
I suppose you think your language is the most logical thing to you in your head.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
mohamed fucked a dead woma in the grave
had sex with son's wife
raped the slaves, adultery with maids
fucked a 9 yr old aisha
and wanted to marry a 2 yr old baby
sick sick sick motherfucker
the worst human on earth
the bastard and cancer of mankind
and you follow this scum filthy dirty stinking pig
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN He never had sex with a dead women, he never wanted to marry a 2 years old baby, he never raped anyone, and he did not have sex with his son's wife.
Why dont you show me sources for your comments.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you can only deny mohamed sexual antics.
read your fucking hadith sunnah and the stupid quran fucking idiot
mohamed the sex maniac pedophile
he was sex mad, he even dream of a sex heaven with virgins and big breast.
fuck you idiot
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Am i suppose to take advice from an ignorant, jobless intellectually bankrupt person on youtube like yourself.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
i know you rather follow blindly a pedophile mohamed and the stupid quran without questioning it.
you fuckin gpigshit moron
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
you can't even defend your evil stupid cult
now you want to defend it by attacking another religion.
i dont believe in religio, religious book, or any man made control ideas like your fucking islam.
my believe is a creator that is just, not like your pig allah, the stupid moon idol who wants you pigshits to bow to stone and circle it 7 times
what a bunch of stupid pigs
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN There is nothing to defend. I could defend something if what I am defending against were legitimate claims. But all your claims are outright lies.
So who is your creator. Do you have a scripture that you believe in?
Or you call yourself an agnost?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
i dont need a scripture, i have common sense.
i know i will never follow a pedophile mohamed.
i dont kill, steal, rape women, children and slaves
and call for the hatred of non menmbers
so fuck you pigshit
fuck mohamed and fuck that moon idol allah the cock sucking shit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN So are you an agnost?
Do you have a religion, whether you believe it is man made or not?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Do you believe in the bible? Do you believe in Baghvad Ghita. Do you have any books outlining your principle beliefs?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
nobody is giving you advice.
just ask yourself, why would god send a man who fucked children raped slaves, had sex with son's wife, robbed caravans, killed and murder, take 20% war spoils and lootings. why would a god send such a human to be a role model for mankind.?? why would god create a human and requir you to cut off the foreskin, why would god want you to face kaaba when praying? circle it and bow to a rock?? this mean that your imaginary pig allah is a pagan deity
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN There is no point in addressing something to someone when they are too stupid to read what is being written. You ask yourself, why do the whole islamic world not believe in blackstone, and why you insist that Muslims do? Is it because you are a reatard who cannot read?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
muslims worship and glorify a peice of meteorite black stone
stupid medieval pagan rituals
fucking bunch of retarded morons
fucking dumbfucks
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN You see, i have religious belief. My religious beliefs prevent me from insulting others with "f***, pigs, among many of the things you have said. On the other hand, your belief, whatever that maybe have been a great influence in the filthy language that you use. You are the product of your belief, whatever that maybe. I am the product of my belief. That is why i am well mannered, civilised human being. And that is why you are full of hatred.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
if you are a good human, you would have left the evil filthy islam.
but you are stucked in that shit.
my language is not a product of any religion .'
it is only for islam and those that follow the pedophile evil bastard mohamed
i only fuck muslim and their stupid belief.
so fuck you again, fuck your pig alllah and pedo mohamdick
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN well, there might be people i dislike. But i would not use such language on my enemies. You obviously are the product of your faith.
Why dont you tell me what you follow. You seemed to have evdaded the question pretty well. Are you ashamed to admit your religion?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
read your quran and hadith and think it openly with an unbiased mind
and you will start to hate the fake prophet mohamed and leave islam
and be free from this evil hate cult
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN NOt only have a read the Quran. I know it from memory and i love Islam. Far from leaving Islam, i will promote it.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN There is nothing you can tell me or teach me about Islam. I have studied in for many years, and i have memorised the Quran.
Maybe you should go and read the Quran. It will open you heart to the truth.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
i will never defend mohamed with lies and fabrication
i will never follow his evil life like stealing raping killing and enslaving
i will never bow and circle a stone. what for??
stupid pagan rituals and superstitions
i will never follow the quran to hate non muslims
but i will expose the fals ereligion islam and its fake prophet mohamed
islam is for retards and motherfuckers
bad evil cult need foul language to mock it
cos muslims are too stupid to realise that
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN So what religion are you?
Why do you hide your religion?
Are you ashamed of your religion?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Why do you hate yourself so much? Are you ashamed of who you are?
Why do you hide your religion and why do you hide your channel?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
now why would i hate myself??
maybe its you!. i only hate muslims and anyone who follow mohamed the evil stinking maniac bastard
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Regardless of who you speak to, if you were not influenced by your faith, then you would not have use such insulting language. You obviously use it because my religion opposes your world view.
So, are you an christian, jew, hindu, bhuddist, sikh, agnost? Why are you ashamed? If you were not ashamed of what you are, you would give me a straightforward answer. You are a coward who even hides his channel.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN Are you ashamed of who you are? Its okay. Islam can help you change to become a better person. And you no longer have to feel hatred towards your opponents. You can just debate like a civilised human being.
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@TheOnlineSheikh
islam teach muslims to side each other against non members. teach them to fight for their imaginary pig allah
offer them virgins for sex in death
you think i am that stupid as you?? no way. you pigshit
HlJAZIMAN 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN So you are ashamed of your religion, even though you tried your best to circumvent the question with your answer before. So tell me, why will you not tell me what religion you are from? Are you embarassed? Why are you hiding your channel? Are you a coward?
TheOnlineSheikh 11 months ago
@HlJAZIMAN And yes, so far, you have only shown us your stupid side. There is not a single comment here that would show otherwise.
TheOnlineSheikh