Please email me at LPLindsey@hotmail.com and I can give you my phone number through that (can't figure out how to message here via my phone). I also have two videos of one of the dogs having an episode, I will email it to you for comparison. Thanks!!
Hi there... I was hoping you can help. I know of three (possibly more) Bichons that are having these exact episodes, all related dogs! The vets are stumped. The dogs appear completely normal between episodes, but when excited or stressed their backs arch up, they lose control of their rear legs, and they shake. They are fully conscious during these episodes. They didn't start having them until they were older, 4-5 years old. Have you made any headway with your boy? Please let me know!!
Hi - sorry to hear about your Bichons. When researching paroxysmal dyskinesia I came across some info regarding Bichons having this condition. I hope it will be OK to contact you direct so that I can share the info with you?
And in response to your question re Monty - sadly he is still having these episodes, the most recent being less than a month ago.
sorry - but I am told by neurologists here in the UK, and by a researcher in the US that dogs with PD do not respond to anti-convulsant drugs. I have sent you a message with my contact details so that we can maybe discuss things further. Hope to hear from you soon.
Researchers at the University of Missouri are seeking help from dog owners with dogs that seize. It looks like you could help. I tried to post a link to a page with some basic info about the research but my post errors. Try googling the following - tulgeywood links canine epilepsy
Thank you for passing on the info. Monty is involved in the research project into atypical collapse in labrador retrievers at the Uni of Minnesota, and his video clip was sent to the Uni of Missouri a couple of yrs back. Sorry I didn't respond sooner but your message had been labled "spam"
Monty was diag with paroxysmal dyskinesia at a vet research centre 3 yrs ago - after many tests (all normal). He is now 5 yrs old. Episodes - during which he is is fully alert and responsive - can last anything from a couple of mins up to 25 mins - then he's immediately back to normal - as if nothing had happened. He's had more than 50 episodes now, and in the absence of any acceptable conventional treatment, we are now with an holistic vet and trying homeopathy.
@jazzypad100 Hi there! Monty's gorgeous! Tell me, have you ever seen this happen as a response to sudden extreme activity/stress?
I run a small boarding kennel and today had a lab mix who was playing sedately suddenly get into a pretty furious scuffle with a golden that lasted maybe 30 seconds. Immediately after separating the two I put all the dogs, including the lab, indoors while I handled the golden (who was the aggressor). When I brought the lab back out, he had symptoms similar to Monty's
@nagumii Sorry to hear about the episode you describe. Most of Monty's episodes have been in response to a sudden burst of energy in response to stress. If it's OK with you I will email you via the address on your website - so that I can respond more fully.
Researchers at the University of Missouri are seeking help from dog owners with dogs that seize. It looks like you could help. I tried to post a link to a page with some basic info about the research but my post errors. Try googling the following - tulgeywood links canine epilepsy Please help! If the researchers get our cooperation, they will be able to offer a test to breeders so that no dog ever need have seizures again.
So, after confirming that the dog was not bleeding, we jumped him into the car (he was able to walk, but uncoordinated, lifting his front paws strangely, having trouble lifting his head and his hind legs were very uncoordinated) and were at the vet's office in about 90 secs. When we got out of the car, 95% of the symptoms were gone. The vet gave a quick checkup and sent us on our way. From your experience with Monty, does this sound like the same syndrome?
@jazzypad100 I have seen seizures in Labs, this looks like it Might Be a typical seizure or epilepsy but surely not grand mal.Can you imagine how a grand mal seizure appears to the owner? It's hush hush in the labrador breeder world, most don't want to talk about it.This is the 1st I've heard about this and I'm not convinced it's not epilepy or non epileptic seizures.50 episodes are alot. I hope the acupuncture helps.Phenobarb is normally given to dogs with frequent seizures, 1 or 2 monthly.
We are involved in the Minnesota research into "atypical collapse" in labrador retrievers. Monty's been having a bad run with these episodes recently - lost count of how many he's had now. Neurologists at two different research establishments have told me that the usual epilepsy type drugs don't work on these dogs. In addition,the side effects of drugs such as pheno could well kill him - as Monty also has chronic pancreatitis.
Hi, I have been racking my brains trying to figure out why my 8 yr old Yorkie does this. I've had all the necessary tests done through my vet, yet he continues to report that everything is normal. Please tell me what your course of action is in treating Monty.
Please email me at LPLindsey@hotmail.com and I can give you my phone number through that (can't figure out how to message here via my phone). I also have two videos of one of the dogs having an episode, I will email it to you for comparison. Thanks!!
LPLindsey 3 months ago
Hi there... I was hoping you can help. I know of three (possibly more) Bichons that are having these exact episodes, all related dogs! The vets are stumped. The dogs appear completely normal between episodes, but when excited or stressed their backs arch up, they lose control of their rear legs, and they shake. They are fully conscious during these episodes. They didn't start having them until they were older, 4-5 years old. Have you made any headway with your boy? Please let me know!!
LPLindsey 3 months ago
@LPLindsey
Hi - sorry to hear about your Bichons. When researching paroxysmal dyskinesia I came across some info regarding Bichons having this condition. I hope it will be OK to contact you direct so that I can share the info with you?
And in response to your question re Monty - sadly he is still having these episodes, the most recent being less than a month ago.
jazzypad100 3 months ago
oh lol, the tail wap wap thunk ding clang on the wall, just like my BC used to do, wish he hadnt have fallen to leukemia
rhino2960 1 year ago
This is what my lab apollo was diagnosed. Any suggestions for treatment? The vet currently has him on phenobarb. which doesn't seem to be helping...
gam4511 1 year ago
@gam4511
sorry - but I am told by neurologists here in the UK, and by a researcher in the US that dogs with PD do not respond to anti-convulsant drugs. I have sent you a message with my contact details so that we can maybe discuss things further. Hope to hear from you soon.
jazzypad100 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Researchers at the University of Missouri are seeking help from dog owners with dogs that seize. It looks like you could help. I tried to post a link to a page with some basic info about the research but my post errors. Try googling the following - tulgeywood links canine epilepsy
gdjoan 1 year ago
@gdjoan
Thank you for passing on the info. Monty is involved in the research project into atypical collapse in labrador retrievers at the Uni of Minnesota, and his video clip was sent to the Uni of Missouri a couple of yrs back. Sorry I didn't respond sooner but your message had been labled "spam"
jazzypad100 1 year ago
Monty was diag with paroxysmal dyskinesia at a vet research centre 3 yrs ago - after many tests (all normal). He is now 5 yrs old. Episodes - during which he is is fully alert and responsive - can last anything from a couple of mins up to 25 mins - then he's immediately back to normal - as if nothing had happened. He's had more than 50 episodes now, and in the absence of any acceptable conventional treatment, we are now with an holistic vet and trying homeopathy.
jazzypad100 2 years ago
@jazzypad100 Hi there! Monty's gorgeous! Tell me, have you ever seen this happen as a response to sudden extreme activity/stress?
I run a small boarding kennel and today had a lab mix who was playing sedately suddenly get into a pretty furious scuffle with a golden that lasted maybe 30 seconds. Immediately after separating the two I put all the dogs, including the lab, indoors while I handled the golden (who was the aggressor). When I brought the lab back out, he had symptoms similar to Monty's
nagumii 1 year ago
@nagumii Sorry to hear about the episode you describe. Most of Monty's episodes have been in response to a sudden burst of energy in response to stress. If it's OK with you I will email you via the address on your website - so that I can respond more fully.
jazzypad100 1 year ago
@jazzypad100 I would greatly appreciate that.
nagumii 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Researchers at the University of Missouri are seeking help from dog owners with dogs that seize. It looks like you could help. I tried to post a link to a page with some basic info about the research but my post errors. Try googling the following - tulgeywood links canine epilepsy Please help! If the researchers get our cooperation, they will be able to offer a test to breeders so that no dog ever need have seizures again.
gdjoan 1 year ago
@jazzypad100 Continuation:
So, after confirming that the dog was not bleeding, we jumped him into the car (he was able to walk, but uncoordinated, lifting his front paws strangely, having trouble lifting his head and his hind legs were very uncoordinated) and were at the vet's office in about 90 secs. When we got out of the car, 95% of the symptoms were gone. The vet gave a quick checkup and sent us on our way. From your experience with Monty, does this sound like the same syndrome?
nagumii 1 year ago
@jazzypad100 I have seen seizures in Labs, this looks like it Might Be a typical seizure or epilepsy but surely not grand mal.Can you imagine how a grand mal seizure appears to the owner? It's hush hush in the labrador breeder world, most don't want to talk about it.This is the 1st I've heard about this and I'm not convinced it's not epilepy or non epileptic seizures.50 episodes are alot. I hope the acupuncture helps.Phenobarb is normally given to dogs with frequent seizures, 1 or 2 monthly.
bernardsdaughter 8 months ago
@bernardsdaughter
We are involved in the Minnesota research into "atypical collapse" in labrador retrievers. Monty's been having a bad run with these episodes recently - lost count of how many he's had now. Neurologists at two different research establishments have told me that the usual epilepsy type drugs don't work on these dogs. In addition,the side effects of drugs such as pheno could well kill him - as Monty also has chronic pancreatitis.
jazzypad100 8 months ago
Hi, I have been racking my brains trying to figure out why my 8 yr old Yorkie does this. I've had all the necessary tests done through my vet, yet he continues to report that everything is normal. Please tell me what your course of action is in treating Monty.
ExclusivelyWe 2 years ago