i won't criticize because i don't know nothing about systema but i'm pretty skeptical about the efficiency of this, i'll try during one year so i can make my own opinion
systema is love. I've watched nearly every video on youtube about it but its nothing compared to actually training and doing it. its such an amazing feeling to have someone punch you in the face or stomach and not care or feel afraid. you simply shrug it off and breath ready for the next move. Respect to all the systema warriors out there.
Americas lucky Russia is on there side at least I they were allies in ww2 but had the cold war what caused that man i wish Ireland didnt skip out well atlest we arent the only contry
@chasdffdf reason cold war started is because many german war criminals where hired or hidden by cia to fight black people within US. Most of german criminal doctors got hired to do secret illegal biohazerd human testing. No lie. I know some of these german war criminals! US is it's own biggest criminal. US already had ideas about cold war before the end of the WWII. Most russians didn't like alot of ussr but they also understood the benefits.
@Savta1234 do you frequently fighting with shaolin monks on the streets?))) U must be living near the Shaolin Temple which monks are going downtown to kick some ass just for fun))) GTA: Temple Gangstazz))) ROFL)))
@Savta1234 1. Нелогично. Как определить хорошего бойца? Нужно найти ему в противники хорошего бойца. А как определить что этот второй боец хорош? Нужно найти ему в противники хорошего бойца. Это мой юный друг называется рекурсия.
2. Цитата из моего сообщения - древнекитайская притча, а ваш бред в ответ непонятно к чему написан.
2. Зайдите в зал и попробуйте провести спарринг с "учителем". Если он накидает по ушам он уже достаточно хорош чтобы учить тебя т.к. умеет и знает больше чем ты.
@Savta1234 Вам обратно нужно в 8 класс т.к. с логикой все крайне плохо. Выясняется что обе девочки это МС МК. Только с вашим умением-знанием вы не в состоянии определить это, поэтому просрали возможность позаниматься в секции у такого профессионала.
И китайские не басни, а притчи, дубина.)
Заниматься в вашем случае можно у того кто профессиональней вас а не профессиональней какого-то сферического мастера в вакууме, иначе вам рекурсивно придется проверять всех людей. Логик он.. Насмешил.
@Savta1234 Двоечник указывающий академику Иванову соревноваться с его, двоечника, кумиром в лучшем случае академиком Петровым или что более вероятно троечником Васиным, ради прихоти двоечника. Ню-ню, желаю удачи.
The giggling doesn't help......the striking techniques are little more than a parlor trick. Try this relaxed slow strike on someone trying to avoid being hit and see if you can land anything. The rear naked choke defense he shows also requires your attack to not apply the hold properly and to position his hips behind yours and cooperate with you. This system is little more than a few guys who know a few basics playing along with one another and having fun.
@jakesilv I do however understand your argument, but this video is just an example of teaching in a relaxed setting, the techniques are slow but for training purposes only, but there also countless videos of vladimir being attacked at full speed, unless you have actually met him or mikhail it is very hard to see where they are coming from, but believe me the moment you do will be life changing.
@jalidav1 I'm not some master fighter, I've sparred with/rolled with many people who are much better at MA than I, and I was impressed and learned from them but I've never sparred with anyone who knew techniques that seemed magical or blew my mind. All effective MA exploit weak points in the body, leverage and balance.
@jakesilv I guess what i find appealing here is how easy it becomes, through the practice you learn to get the same results with smaller and smaller effort each time, I mean for the most parts the movements become so subtle it is hard to understand what happened, I think through this study people are able and more likely to defend themselves when they get old and the body has given up on them
@jalidav1 See its the supposed effectiveness of the small, subtle movements that make me doubt that what I'm seeing is in any way legit. Are they supposedly striking pressure points and causing all sorts of reactions? At my BJJ school you'd learn technique for about an hour and then after class if you were ready and willing you could roll with other students or the instructor. We'd go full resistance and use all techniques we knew in order to gain position and submit one another.
Wow, this is the first time I have seen systema and I immediatly recognize this as genuine. I studied an obscure Chinese martial art and this is so similar. The karate folks called the style bullshido, but I was clobbering their green and brown belts after just 2 months of instruction. Mind you I'm not a fast learner. Its great to see something different and I hope all the bullshido people out there continue to believe in bullshido, its to our advantage.
Tip for playing with Vlad: never take what is offered! (not that it will save you :)
I note the Systema critics who, as usual, have never actually practiced the system. Lot of traffic from other martial arts and theories into Systema but never heard of any the other way. No wonder so many bruised egos (and lost money?)
Simulacronx. I practice wing tsun and i know it's great.. I know botzepe and bas rutten... They are really impressive. But maybe you are not well informed on systema. I know it's not easy to have real information about it because a lot of what come from Russia to here is not always translated in our system like it should. I use to stay in Moscow for some period during the year and i speak russian. Try to look 4 the russian video. Look for Kadochnikov. The one who formed the Russian systema 4army
while it is definitaley limiting to learn only one style with predefined patterns, the patterns can be broken, and plenty of teachings form all forms of mma can be used in a street fight, but i will not argue with systemas superiority to improvise incase something you dont expect happens, im not gonna sit here and take sides, you both have your rights, and you both can be wrong, nobody enjoys watching this bickering like your both little boys fighting over an xbox or something.
you guys both act like immature little shits, bickering on every video about whos is better, it sucks, both of you have a right to your own opinion, Systema is NOT bullshit, its is proven, Simulacronx, you could probably hold nothing to this guy, and being as disrespectful to any martial art than your own leads me to believe you dopnt really know martial arts, and XIPM3, why waste your time, its obvious you wont persuade this little fucker, and mma is not completely useless in a streetfight...
@jakesilv There's a series on Spike TV called,"Deadliest Warrior" in which virtual battles ("who would win between...") are created using actual combat data...or as close as they can get. On one episode, the scenario was Spetznaz vs. Green Berets. In showing the skills of both sides, they did cover Spetznaz unarmed combat in which the karate expert they had come in was very shocked to see the soldier's capabilities. Albeit it was a small clip, but the operatives moves were.....
@ghede13 I'm familiar with the show and saw that episode. What the ex soldiers were doing doesn't look like what I'm seeing in these Systema videos. I'm guessing that some have sort of hijacked the systema name and are building their own schools off of it, maybe that's where the "fake" looking systema videos are coming from?
@jakesilv Actually there may be some truth to that. Though I believe their techniques are real, I think Vlad's origin story for systema is bullshit. He claims that it's a native art of Russia, that's so ancient that it's name has been forgotten. Seeking freedom from Mother Russia, Vlad makes a daring escape to the west and decides to teach the masses this exotic art, allegedly outlawed by the Soviet regime for years....
@jakesilv ...Now on top of this just sounding like he's trying to out do Frank Dux in the martial arts sensationalism department, VLAD HOLDS ANNUAL SEMINARS IN RUSSIA. If one had to flee a country, why the hell would you return to it? But there's another story of it's origin that sounds better to me. Apparently, it was created by a man named Aleksey Alekseyevich Kadochnikov in 1962 after years of studying various aspects of psychology, physiology, and movement.
@ghede13 That's what I turned up upon doing some research too, I think maybe there's two different "systema" systems, one by Vlad and one created in 62 by Kadochnikov, based off of older Russian arts and Sambo. Vlad may be a faker like George Dillman, hard to say.
@ghede13 I know Sambo and Judo are pretty big in Russia. I've trained some Judo but I think I would try Sambo before I tried Systema unless I was 100% sure my instructor was legit. I don't think most of the systema videos on youtube are legit.
@jakesilv Vlad is most definitely no faker, turn up to one of seminars and try your luck. between him and Ryabko, people do it all the time. They have trained themselves to stay relaxed and versatile above all things and their improvisation skills are unreal
@jalidav1 The best proof you can offer is that I must personally attend a seminar, spending what, hundred of dollars? It is common knowledge that you need to stay relaxed an calm in any dangerous situation, the alternative is panic an no one is going to teach panic. like I said before there may be an actual MA System of Systema but I doubt this guy is teaching the real deal. Ask yourself this, if this guy is so legit then why aren't more people taking advantage?
@jakesilv ok, well first off look how many people are in attendance for one local seminar. quite a big class isn't it? what i mean by staying relaxed is, most MA systems give you technique after technique and don't talk about the psychological, so people find when they get into conflict they imediately tense up which slows down their reaction time and more importantly their movement speed
@jakesilv I know these videos may seem a bit hard to take in, but systema is all about drills and exercises that start off quite easy and through practice you build up the complexity and difficulty of the exercise, the goal is to control your breathing throughout and by the time you get to the harder drills, you should be able to perform them while staying relaxed
granted, this system does take time to develop, there are other styles you can go to where you can pick up a few moves and feel comfortable defending yourself, but the systema that vlad and mikhail teach is about constant improvement, controlling your psyche and becoming a master of your physicality, through the exercises you build strength of character and relieve tension which actually transfers to all walks of life
@jakesilv I hope that has made a little more sense than my earlier post, it is very hard to explain it in all it's values, all I know is that I have studied countless systems of MA and combat sports for the past 16 years and the systema that these guys teach is the only one that challenges me to improve myself, I know when you see them doing things they make it look easy, but that is only because of the level of practice they received
@jalidav1 Really? Every MA I've studied has challenged me to improve myself, most notably BJJ, Judo and Boxing. I would recommend any one of those to anyone looking to learn some self defense and get into better shape. What have you been studying? Also, ALL martial arts systems for self defense take time to develop. You learn technique and then you spar or roll to ensure you can execute and all martial arts are about developing physically, mentally, relieving stress etc etc
@jakesilv I have studied BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kung Fu, Aikido mainly, although all of these arts were great, I found them too rigid and that they didn't really prepare me for chaos if you know what i mean. I find myself leaning more towards striking arts tbh as i don't like the idea of rolling around on the floor in the street/club. But I think the main thing is systema teaches me to adapt in a way the other arts couldn't and i guess that is what i find most appealing
@jalidav1 When you studied BJJ did you roll? Not sure what you mean by rigid. I find sparring/rolling to be the best way to prepare for real violence and blow off steam. Not sure you're being straight about training BJJ, BJJ is absolutely NOT about rolling around on the floor. Ground fighting is a big part of BJJ, but so are throws, take downs, standing defense, standing chokes and submissions and general fitness.
@jakesilv yeah we did roll a lot to be honest, the way it worked was he would show us a technique, we practice it and then we roll for 5 mins and then he would break us up and show us something new. The big emphasis was groundwork as it was a part of an MMA class, although i am quite natural at it i guess i just didn't find it all that appealing
@jalidav1 Thanks for your time and info but I will remain a skeptic. Maybe if a seminar comes to town I'll check it out but I certainly wouldn't pay these guys to show me their system.
@jakesilv ...unsimilar to Vlad's. I must admit, I questioned the validity of the art for a while myself. Some of Vlad's concepts seem ...well, off. But seeing one of his student's in action made a believer out of me. One can see the logic behind his movements more easily...or at least I could.
my suggestion...........dont train in one art. you can be an aikido fifth dan and beat up some guy but then you meet someone from BJJ and get your ass owned, minus will learn multiple things
Common sense is not monopolized either but some cyber experts use one only to mumble while hiding underneath online anonymity. There are nearly a hundred participants on this seminar and they look fairly intelligent unlike morons farting comments without a slightest clue.
Vladimir Vasiliev is the Master of highest caliber and in past twenty years nobody could prove otherwise although many including myself tried.
he may be a competent fighter, but what hes teaching is rubbish.You will rarely if ever get a solid fighter attending these seminars simply because they recognise bullshit from a mile away.Whats shown in these clips is as far away from common sense as possible.If something looks too easy it nearly always is fake.
what most people don't realise is basically all martial art should use the systema methodology.
The slow train is not some dead boring stale kata but rather real geomatry and real movement slowed down
and also what most people do not realise is it is easier to do this stuff fast provided you understand the geomatry
Personally I pratice knife defence at a very fast pace and the best thing that serves me is knowledge of geomatry and realising to breath and to remian relaxed
geometry has nothing to do with ,you mean efficient biomechanics and systema hasnt a monopoly on that.This vasiliev guy is a clown and the seminar participants must be fools not to walk out.This reminds me of those aikido demos where the ukes jump all over the place for the master.
Ronny, opinion based on miniscule data derived from free footage can not be argued. Thus I comment to balance credibility of zero exposure position with one based on hands on experience.
Fraud implies poor price-value ratio. What Vasiliev, Ryabko and Kadochnikov (Starov does not really belong here) have to offer carries much more value than you (unfortunately) can see on a screen and incidentally much more than what they charge for it.
Do not try it! Keep the price low for the rest of us.
in a sense i agree with Ronny. it's easy to say those things and do them in slow motion. when you have to do it for real it's not so easy. however i for one fully recomment using what some call dirty tactics. you just have to be careful where and when you use them. so in a way, i agree with both of you. your best chance of making them work, is to be the better grappler for instance. or at least have some sort of control over the person.
Alot of people are nay sayers of systema but like any other form of martial arts it takes years to master something, if someone just been attending couple of seminars the odds are they are gonna lose in a fight. Ive been doing systema for 8 months, i like it, and i personally think i could do alot of things better than some guys who has been doing systema for 5 years but i have wrestled for 20. But to say one system is better than another is bull, its the amount of training a person had.
People always seem to love a controversy (here I am getting into one myself!) but... it seems on every systema vid there's a comment about the almighty wisdom to be gained from ufc and mma. ufc has RULES! no eyes, no balls, no throat, no biting, no spitting; these joint locks OK, these ones not, time limits, space limits, etc etc.
Those guys are amazing fighters and athletes, sure. But "watch ufc, QED" doesn't is not a valid argument about effective self defence.
Hello Mr Sayfan. I never said any style is too agressive to be tested. And my point seems to have passed you by. What do you mean by "functionally proven"? I guess you mean that those techniqes have been successful 1 on 1 in a UFC ring with UFC rules. Agree with you on that. But combat arises in an infinite number of shapes and sizes, and what is successful in UFC is not necessarily successful in other situations.
If you train seriously you understand how difficult it can be to overcome even one determined man. A teacher claiming his ART to be effective against multiple opponents is a liar. (running seems to be the best skill in THAT case).
Fighting more than one opponent has to do with strategy more then tactics - meaning that you'll have to keep moving so that you'll deal with them ONE AT a TIME in succession. it's in the strategy, NOT art in itself.
now, can you train for an INFINITE number of scenarios? no. as a matter of fact you don't have too.
Learn to obseve your enviorment and use it to your advantage, whatever it is. that's all.
Next - the weakest argument, "there are so many rules in MMA" - when was the last time you gouged a sparring partner's eye out? Or "practiced" biting him in the neck? or had a 20 minute all-out sparring? (time limits...)
And anyway, that's not what would make you EFFECTIVE.
Look Mr Sayfan, I don't want a beef with you. From your homepage it seems you have more MA experience than me. All I'm saying is the fact that a technique is or is not used in UFC does not prove whether its effective (and that comes from my instructor, who knows many techniques, not me). They're (UFC) all fantastic fighters. I said that 1st up. I'm not out to say Systema is better than anything. Actually you may enjoy a Systema class. It seems to match yr philosophies. Peace
i was the biggest skeptic of systema, so i went to see VLAD, this man is no joke he is truly amazing, the stuff he can do no ordinary man can do or a well trained MMA guy. Can this system save your life, YES, can other systems save your life, YES, its a matter of preference of what style you like but systema really works. I know few guys who say they train systema and show boat, don't listen to them, if you wanna find out what is systema go see VLAD or MIKHAEL and few others are good to, not all
PS, couldn't resist responding to this: if yr question was "when is the last time you did something banned in UFC" the answer wd be: last night! We worked on escaping neck holds, and for me the easiest methods included going for the face/head and peeling it away, with my fingers in the eye sockets, nostrils or ears for grip, pressuring pointing the adams apple, or finger submissions. Of course I don't dig right in to a partner's eye sockets, but we sure use em as handles
You misinterpreted my meaning - I am not interested in peacfull drilling, I used to drill lots of these "deadly" techniques myself...
Resistance. That's the most important thing - try finger submitting someone who REALLY does'nt want you to - he'll just pull away forcefully, or hit you real quick and hard.
Pressure point the adams apple? again, for that to actually work against a forcefully squirming opponent you have to have the positional skills to force the position - be the better grappler
I am VERY appreciative of softness - having trained in several internal styles.
It gives me an adge in the "harder" arts.
My problem with Vasiliev, Ryabko, Kadochnikov, Starov etc' is that they are manipulators.
By combining simple, effective principals, with impossible-to-execute-in-real-time elaborate demostrations, speed changes, suggestion, and utter-bullshit,
they make themselves apear MUCH better than they really are.
Since the direct result is more money to them - imo it's a fraud
there doing it in slow motion so it looks easy do it in fast motion and beat those poeples asses and then you will impress me EXACTLY YOUR TOTALY RIGHT
this was when maria came to my birthday party over 4 and a half years ago. that was a tough egg to crack oh please. what do u do when the hottest girl alive says "no clementino im ugly" what do u say? u say i guess i love ugly girls man, like what do u want from me ;) you know? she wants everything. hottest girl ever. then i was her boyfriend. what a ruckus
You wish kid. Systema sucks ass. My instructor is a personal friend of Vladimir's.. The system just doesn't work outside of teaching you how to take a hit... That's it, just how to take a hit. Rybko basically took a bunch of the psychological and conditioning methods from the Russian special forces, added a few of their moves, and repackaged it as the entire russian special forces system which is bullshit. The average person will get killed trying to use this in a fight.
The dude with thick beard in the beginning is Dragisa Jocic - he's like 6th Dan Aikido as well. Vlad is awesome - good to see high grade guys from other styles learning from him.
phony crap?? haha Special Ops will straight up kill mad people, do u know anything about them? These techniques along with Krav Maga are used for all Street defense and weapons. Very Useful
Phony crap that won't work in a real fight. It's just old men trying to be heroes playfighting. Someone will eventually get attacked and really hurt with this slap art.
You've obviously never done even one Systema class... This stuff HURTS... And it doesn't JUST hurt, it kills in a real fight. Don't talk about what you know nothing about! ;)
I've done a bit of MMA myself, though I won't pretend to be expert, and I've found Systema to be most efficient when sparring (yes, with resistanT partners).
I don't see what Riabko saying "Listen to his soul" has to do with anything, really?
I don't really like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but that's personal preference - I know it's effective. I'm not much into boxing either.
watch spetsnaz vs gean barret on deadliest warrior. the spetsanz use systemaaaaaaa. do a little fucking research, and just a little bit of training, or if trainning is too much just attend a seminar. until you do that shut the fuck and stay in your little cave. okay, okay. fuck
Yes, again. You are too aggressive and offending, do some more Systema, maybe it will finally calm you down.
Other people have other perceptions, you know. But we must expose scams and lies, especially when it is about self-confidence and security.
Just ignore my comments... but in my eyes, as you know, I only see crap and non-sense, and it upsets me. Never seen something like that in martial arts, ok maybe Kiai (touchless punches haha). I believe in Gracies, Bas Rutten, Mark Kerr.
See, at least you are not totally opposed to what I say now. But you don't seem to have a really broad view on fighting (no offense intended, really), because Mark Kerr, the Gracies, and especially Bas Rutten (which I love in terms of fighting) are LEGEND of fighting. Just inform yourself. It is not about muscles, I swear. But if you want to really fight, muscles are no obstacle at all, haha... Power is also important in reality. It took me some time to understand.
PS I dont know where you got your information from, but Fedor Emelianenko is a MMA fighter (the most realistic fighting training in my eyes); he came from Sambo and Judo.
Oleg Taktarov is also a MMA fighter, he came from Sambo, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, and is known for acrobatix Sambo take-downs. Oh well...
Cosy and safe? Some MMA fighters are the most respected fighting machines on this planet. Check out Bas Rutten. Do you know his video "Lethal Street Fighting" ? It's one of the most brutal and realistic presentations I know. He also had countless victories in the ring. There's nothing cosy and safe about fighting in Pride or UFC. Or the Brazilian Vale Tudo (="anything goes") fights. There's nothing safe about submissions and being choked out etc. I did Wing Chun, Wing Chun is pure self-defence.
Muay Thai is also very impressive. They viciously use knees and elbows, deadly weapons. But training is hard. Boxing is also very realistic and good in a fight. I wish I would master the reflexes of a boxer.
Anyways, as I said, check out Bas Rutten.
He comes as close to the real thing (I know it's an overused word) as it gets.
Ah yes,you just pretended stuff about Bas Rutten too.Bas Rutten has never said anything about Krav Maga,where did you get that from??Rutten earned black belts in Taek Won Do and full contact Karate (Kyokushin,also very good),went on to Muay Thai and then Pancrase, the precursor to MMA.Once again:He's one of the most feared and respected deadly machines on this planet.Why do you just say stuff?
Heyheyhey kid calm down!A real martial art artist doesn't lose his temper like that,and you don't have to call me names.Somehow I feel sorry I disturbed your euphoria you got from Systema,but it's just a public forum here,and I have my opinion.You know that I retorted to evey point you made,and it's easy,because you're not in reality.You don't even know MMA,you don't now legendary fighters like Bas Rutten,you don't know Wing Chun,I mean, get some experience before you open your mouth like that.
Dunno, I suspect you to make up stories. Go to the SEAL's,you'll surely do anything but Systema there. Sorry to irritate you... but I won't change my opinion on the subject.
If you don't want to get into further agitation because I talk negatively about your beloved Systema thing, just don't bother anymore.
dont know what to think of systema, but im interested. take for example the so called "systema punch" (relaxed hand etc). IF it really IS so effective and superior to normal technique, why for example klitschko etc dont use it?
In boxing,your punch often has force its way through your opponent's guard and block him from getting in a counter punch. I don't know if a relaxed arm can do that. However,boxers do know that tensing up too much will cost them speed and power. Like you,I'm interested in Systema but not sure what to make of it. I'm keeping an open mind.
OK. I train with one of the top featherweights in the world. He went to a Vlad seminar and said that while there is some hype to Systema, Vlad is the real deal......he sparred with Vlad and said that Vlad is MORE than capable of using this stuff effectively, and is a great sparring partner. That's coming from a top 10 MMA pro. So there you go.
Right, Bruce Lee is a very famous Wing Chun legend;there are also people like Jacky Chan etc.Bruce Lee then changed it a bit to his own style.But most things you see in movies,it's all Wing Chun.There's an impressive WC teacher:Emin Boztepe. He masters the art for real. So get real man,please don't just talk out of your head, you just make up stuff.
Yes,there are overly constructed forms in Wing Chun,but here also,I don't believe you know Wing Chun.If you have a good teacher,and good school,Wing Chun is quite fascinating.There are a lot of deadly,dirty tricks you learn.I'd love to show you,just to see how you react and what you think about it.I see you are interested in efficiency and defense in the streets;so Systema is just the last thing which is going to help you.You are convinced now,you will change in the future,I'm sure.
You have no idea,eh?Many deaths happened in UFC/Pride/MMA matches.Believe me,those guys you won't fuck with in the streets.But in a match,you won't kill each other,it's a competition.You won't gauge out the eyes of your opponent,you won't kill somebody in a competition,do you?But it is brutal enough. It really looks like you compare MMA to Wrestling,which is faked bullshit of course.
"The Speznaz doesn't use Systema but Sambo and Samoz, which are really old fight systems." sambo is used by the russian mellitary. in russia there are many special forces divisions. systema is used in several of them. i know what talking about, blah blah blah. watch spetsnaz vs gean barret on deadliest warrior. end of story get owned
honestly, it's a fighting system, but it's art also. it's kool. i like sambo better cuz it's a fighting system but it's also sport :) it's very nice. like comparing judo and jujutsu to me. and vice versa also sure i guess. im so fucking sexy
Да они бьют с проносом, конечно если убрать цель, то они по законам физики полетят дальше. Ногу после удара надо всегда убирать и тогда подобные фокусы не прокатят.
mmmmnaaaa¡¡¡ muy flojos,, no estan poniedo resistencia,,, si creo ke la tesnica sea buena,,pero no asi de relajado,, no se desarrolla un combate real asi. saludos
Who did you study with? I KNOW for a fact that Vlad puts up where all you guys sit at your Keyboards typing. There are (like in ANY art) instructors of varying quality, but I've never met guys like the Systema crew - I have years of authentic Indonesian Silat, San Soo, Ju Jutsu, TKD - none of them even come close to comparing to Systema Ryabko/Vasiliev. My buddy got jumped in a bar two weeks ago and EASILY handled two attackers AND the bouncer using what Systema he knows. What style do you use?
i won't criticize because i don't know nothing about systema but i'm pretty skeptical about the efficiency of this, i'll try during one year so i can make my own opinion
heracles04 4 months ago
systema is love. I've watched nearly every video on youtube about it but its nothing compared to actually training and doing it. its such an amazing feeling to have someone punch you in the face or stomach and not care or feel afraid. you simply shrug it off and breath ready for the next move. Respect to all the systema warriors out there.
TheTechController 5 months ago
Americas lucky Russia is on there side at least I they were allies in ww2 but had the cold war what caused that man i wish Ireland didnt skip out well atlest we arent the only contry
chasdffdf 6 months ago
@chasdffdf reason cold war started is because many german war criminals where hired or hidden by cia to fight black people within US. Most of german criminal doctors got hired to do secret illegal biohazerd human testing. No lie. I know some of these german war criminals! US is it's own biggest criminal. US already had ideas about cold war before the end of the WWII. Most russians didn't like alot of ussr but they also understood the benefits.
ThePrincessMoonbeam 5 months ago
главное напялить камуфляж типа крутой проженный спецназовец
airpower9 9 months ago
its the coolest martial art ever!!!.....simply BAM!! :P
fhoerman86 10 months ago
p.s
"Если ты встретишь на дороге шаолиньского монаха, ударь его по лицу.
Если это будет настоящий шаолиньский монах, он от твоего лица ничего не оставит.
Если это будет ученик шаолиньских монахов, от твоего лица все таки что-то останется.
Если это будет проходимец в одежде шаолиньского монаха, то ты вспотел зря!" (c)
Savta1234 1 year ago
I don't trust anyone that tries himself only against students.
Bring yourself a shaolin master, then we'll see whether you know something.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 do you frequently fighting with shaolin monks on the streets?))) U must be living near the Shaolin Temple which monks are going downtown to kick some ass just for fun))) GTA: Temple Gangstazz))) ROFL)))
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
Do you meet a lot of former Soviet Speznaz fighters on the street?
Nevermind the Shaolin, let him bring someone really good and test himself against him.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 Вот именно поэтому он учит студентов оборонятся от студентов.
Вам сколько лет? Все еще мечтаете узнать кто сильней Сталлоне или Шварцнеггер?
"Если ты встретишь на дороге шаолиньского монаха, ударь его по лицу.
Если это будет настоящий шаолиньский монах, ты ему по лицу не попадешь.
Если это будет ученик шаолиньских монахов, он будет благодарен тебе за урок.
Если это будет проходимец в одежде шаолиньского монаха, то так ему и надо!" (с)
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
Мне кажется что я говорю простую вещь.
Вы заходите в зал. Видите какого-то дядьку кидающего мальчиков которых и я могу кидать.
Ну и что? Как вы будете знать каковы его возможности в реальности? Сегодня у каждого своя "система", уже на сотни идет счет.
Каждый кто в армии служил считает что у него уже своя система, через неделю гляди и клип в ютюбе.
Вот я и говорю - хочешь показать цену твоей системы, приведи хорошего противника, и посмотрим. Логично?
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 1. Нелогично. Как определить хорошего бойца? Нужно найти ему в противники хорошего бойца. А как определить что этот второй боец хорош? Нужно найти ему в противники хорошего бойца. Это мой юный друг называется рекурсия.
2. Цитата из моего сообщения - древнекитайская притча, а ваш бред в ответ непонятно к чему написан.
2. Зайдите в зал и попробуйте провести спарринг с "учителем". Если он накидает по ушам он уже достаточно хорош чтобы учить тебя т.к. умеет и знает больше чем ты.
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
Я по образованию логик.
Сидит себе шахматист и играет с 12 девочкой. Понятно, выигрывает. Потом у еще одной 11 летней выиграл.
Потом даже у вас выиграл, а вы далеко не профессионал.
Логический вывод что он может быть просто любителем рангом немного выше вашего.
Вы пойдете в его секцию? Я нет. Я посмотрю как он будет играть с людьми о которых я что-то знаю на каком-то шахматном турнире.
А ваши китайские басни, как и все китайские басни, ровно ничего не стоят.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 Вам обратно нужно в 8 класс т.к. с логикой все крайне плохо. Выясняется что обе девочки это МС МК. Только с вашим умением-знанием вы не в состоянии определить это, поэтому просрали возможность позаниматься в секции у такого профессионала.
И китайские не басни, а притчи, дубина.)
Заниматься в вашем случае можно у того кто профессиональней вас а не профессиональней какого-то сферического мастера в вакууме, иначе вам рекурсивно придется проверять всех людей. Логик он.. Насмешил.
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
По видимому вы один из тех дуриков которых он бросает в разные стороны.
В том-то и дело что на видео ВЫ НЕ ЗНАЕТЕ МС они или нет.
У вас логики вообще нет - а если я прозанимаюсь у него в секции и пойму что они были такие же лохи как я?
Как знать-то? Идти к первому попвшемуся который мальчиков по сторонам крутит?
Рекурсивно никого проверять не надо, надо проверить на МИНИМАЛЬНОЙ базе, а не пальцев в небо.
Короче, идит заниматься хоть с бомжами, мне все равно.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 *вздохнул* Повторяю в третий раз, мой дятлообразный друг. Если он лучше лично вас - он уже может лично вас учить.
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
Троечник учить двоечника?
Вперед, флаг вам в руки.
Savta1234 1 year ago
@Savta1234 Двоечник указывающий академику Иванову соревноваться с его, двоечника, кумиром в лучшем случае академиком Петровым или что более вероятно троечником Васиным, ради прихоти двоечника. Ню-ню, желаю удачи.
yrussq 1 year ago
@yrussq
Вы видать тугодум из трудных... КАК ВЫ ЗНАЕТЕ ЧТО ЭТО АКАДЕМИК?
По тому как он мальчиков бросает?
В том-то и вопрос - академик ли он или студентик 3 курса подрабатывающих на уроках старшеклассникам.
Savta1234 1 year ago
omg! thats so sad he even called her: "lovely girl" i feel so bad 4 him...
sassychik12345 1 year ago
ah biomechanics. you got to love it and systema of course.
MshadowsenseoC 1 year ago 3
The giggling doesn't help......the striking techniques are little more than a parlor trick. Try this relaxed slow strike on someone trying to avoid being hit and see if you can land anything. The rear naked choke defense he shows also requires your attack to not apply the hold properly and to position his hips behind yours and cooperate with you. This system is little more than a few guys who know a few basics playing along with one another and having fun.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv I do however understand your argument, but this video is just an example of teaching in a relaxed setting, the techniques are slow but for training purposes only, but there also countless videos of vladimir being attacked at full speed, unless you have actually met him or mikhail it is very hard to see where they are coming from, but believe me the moment you do will be life changing.
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 I'm not some master fighter, I've sparred with/rolled with many people who are much better at MA than I, and I was impressed and learned from them but I've never sparred with anyone who knew techniques that seemed magical or blew my mind. All effective MA exploit weak points in the body, leverage and balance.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv I guess what i find appealing here is how easy it becomes, through the practice you learn to get the same results with smaller and smaller effort each time, I mean for the most parts the movements become so subtle it is hard to understand what happened, I think through this study people are able and more likely to defend themselves when they get old and the body has given up on them
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 See its the supposed effectiveness of the small, subtle movements that make me doubt that what I'm seeing is in any way legit. Are they supposedly striking pressure points and causing all sorts of reactions? At my BJJ school you'd learn technique for about an hour and then after class if you were ready and willing you could roll with other students or the instructor. We'd go full resistance and use all techniques we knew in order to gain position and submit one another.
jakesilv 1 year ago
Relaxation does work when practicing self defense or even when sparring in traditional Japanese karate.....
Ronin6575 1 year ago
I love this.....Will he be doing a US tour soon?
Ronin6575 1 year ago
Wow, this is the first time I have seen systema and I immediatly recognize this as genuine. I studied an obscure Chinese martial art and this is so similar. The karate folks called the style bullshido, but I was clobbering their green and brown belts after just 2 months of instruction. Mind you I'm not a fast learner. Its great to see something different and I hope all the bullshido people out there continue to believe in bullshido, its to our advantage.
charkee1 1 year ago
Tip for playing with Vlad: never take what is offered! (not that it will save you :)
I note the Systema critics who, as usual, have never actually practiced the system. Lot of traffic from other martial arts and theories into Systema but never heard of any the other way. No wonder so many bruised egos (and lost money?)
CNCTEMATIC 1 year ago
Dammit-dammit!
I would have given two fingers to be in this seminar and, believing this to be Muenster, I would even have been in the area ...
... but in 2005 I knew nothing about Systema yet ...! :(
Tried out my share of MA - Karate, Krav, Taekwando - but since I started 2 years ago, Systema is the thing for me!
fenriz218 1 year ago
lol, attack on the guy at 3:46 looks so random
misterkami2 1 year ago
This guy is horrible. the martial art is worse.
strongondefense45 1 year ago
dude, this guy is a fantastic martial artist!
go try him out, see 4 yrself. I did, and it really opened up my eyes to how much more capable people are when they are relaxed...
this stuff looks weird to ego based fighting systems, but it's not necessary to look mean or act like an angry monkey to fight well...
richardshapiroII 1 year ago
Korean millitary do the same stuff, it's real alright !
slyme1711 2 years ago
hey gimp, i guess you've never attacked a master of anything at more than quarter speed. try it and see what happens.
chickenthrower 2 years ago
looks like a bunch of grab-ass. They attack at quarter speed and he moves at double speed...impressive.
gimpyFG71 2 years ago
Vladimir is a badass....Believe me he is fast as hell, this is just training.
R396 2 years ago
what's actually happening?
blueingreentrain 2 years ago
psychological and breath training.
StrengthFromAbove83 2 years ago
Simulacronx. I practice wing tsun and i know it's great.. I know botzepe and bas rutten... They are really impressive. But maybe you are not well informed on systema. I know it's not easy to have real information about it because a lot of what come from Russia to here is not always translated in our system like it should. I use to stay in Moscow for some period during the year and i speak russian. Try to look 4 the russian video. Look for Kadochnikov. The one who formed the Russian systema 4army
MrSteveeeeeeeeeeeeee 2 years ago
while it is definitaley limiting to learn only one style with predefined patterns, the patterns can be broken, and plenty of teachings form all forms of mma can be used in a street fight, but i will not argue with systemas superiority to improvise incase something you dont expect happens, im not gonna sit here and take sides, you both have your rights, and you both can be wrong, nobody enjoys watching this bickering like your both little boys fighting over an xbox or something.
Lenercopa 2 years ago
you guys both act like immature little shits, bickering on every video about whos is better, it sucks, both of you have a right to your own opinion, Systema is NOT bullshit, its is proven, Simulacronx, you could probably hold nothing to this guy, and being as disrespectful to any martial art than your own leads me to believe you dopnt really know martial arts, and XIPM3, why waste your time, its obvious you wont persuade this little fucker, and mma is not completely useless in a streetfight...
Lenercopa 2 years ago 9
@Lenercopa - where and when was this stuff "proven" ??
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv There's a series on Spike TV called,"Deadliest Warrior" in which virtual battles ("who would win between...") are created using actual combat data...or as close as they can get. On one episode, the scenario was Spetznaz vs. Green Berets. In showing the skills of both sides, they did cover Spetznaz unarmed combat in which the karate expert they had come in was very shocked to see the soldier's capabilities. Albeit it was a small clip, but the operatives moves were.....
ghede13 1 year ago
@ghede13 I'm familiar with the show and saw that episode. What the ex soldiers were doing doesn't look like what I'm seeing in these Systema videos. I'm guessing that some have sort of hijacked the systema name and are building their own schools off of it, maybe that's where the "fake" looking systema videos are coming from?
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv Actually there may be some truth to that. Though I believe their techniques are real, I think Vlad's origin story for systema is bullshit. He claims that it's a native art of Russia, that's so ancient that it's name has been forgotten. Seeking freedom from Mother Russia, Vlad makes a daring escape to the west and decides to teach the masses this exotic art, allegedly outlawed by the Soviet regime for years....
ghede13 1 year ago
@jakesilv ...Now on top of this just sounding like he's trying to out do Frank Dux in the martial arts sensationalism department, VLAD HOLDS ANNUAL SEMINARS IN RUSSIA. If one had to flee a country, why the hell would you return to it? But there's another story of it's origin that sounds better to me. Apparently, it was created by a man named Aleksey Alekseyevich Kadochnikov in 1962 after years of studying various aspects of psychology, physiology, and movement.
ghede13 1 year ago
@ghede13 That's what I turned up upon doing some research too, I think maybe there's two different "systema" systems, one by Vlad and one created in 62 by Kadochnikov, based off of older Russian arts and Sambo. Vlad may be a faker like George Dillman, hard to say.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@ghede13 I know Sambo and Judo are pretty big in Russia. I've trained some Judo but I think I would try Sambo before I tried Systema unless I was 100% sure my instructor was legit. I don't think most of the systema videos on youtube are legit.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv Vlad is most definitely no faker, turn up to one of seminars and try your luck. between him and Ryabko, people do it all the time. They have trained themselves to stay relaxed and versatile above all things and their improvisation skills are unreal
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 The best proof you can offer is that I must personally attend a seminar, spending what, hundred of dollars? It is common knowledge that you need to stay relaxed an calm in any dangerous situation, the alternative is panic an no one is going to teach panic. like I said before there may be an actual MA System of Systema but I doubt this guy is teaching the real deal. Ask yourself this, if this guy is so legit then why aren't more people taking advantage?
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv ok, well first off look how many people are in attendance for one local seminar. quite a big class isn't it? what i mean by staying relaxed is, most MA systems give you technique after technique and don't talk about the psychological, so people find when they get into conflict they imediately tense up which slows down their reaction time and more importantly their movement speed
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jakesilv I know these videos may seem a bit hard to take in, but systema is all about drills and exercises that start off quite easy and through practice you build up the complexity and difficulty of the exercise, the goal is to control your breathing throughout and by the time you get to the harder drills, you should be able to perform them while staying relaxed
jalidav1 1 year ago
granted, this system does take time to develop, there are other styles you can go to where you can pick up a few moves and feel comfortable defending yourself, but the systema that vlad and mikhail teach is about constant improvement, controlling your psyche and becoming a master of your physicality, through the exercises you build strength of character and relieve tension which actually transfers to all walks of life
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jakesilv I hope that has made a little more sense than my earlier post, it is very hard to explain it in all it's values, all I know is that I have studied countless systems of MA and combat sports for the past 16 years and the systema that these guys teach is the only one that challenges me to improve myself, I know when you see them doing things they make it look easy, but that is only because of the level of practice they received
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 Really? Every MA I've studied has challenged me to improve myself, most notably BJJ, Judo and Boxing. I would recommend any one of those to anyone looking to learn some self defense and get into better shape. What have you been studying? Also, ALL martial arts systems for self defense take time to develop. You learn technique and then you spar or roll to ensure you can execute and all martial arts are about developing physically, mentally, relieving stress etc etc
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv I have studied BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kung Fu, Aikido mainly, although all of these arts were great, I found them too rigid and that they didn't really prepare me for chaos if you know what i mean. I find myself leaning more towards striking arts tbh as i don't like the idea of rolling around on the floor in the street/club. But I think the main thing is systema teaches me to adapt in a way the other arts couldn't and i guess that is what i find most appealing
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 When you studied BJJ did you roll? Not sure what you mean by rigid. I find sparring/rolling to be the best way to prepare for real violence and blow off steam. Not sure you're being straight about training BJJ, BJJ is absolutely NOT about rolling around on the floor. Ground fighting is a big part of BJJ, but so are throws, take downs, standing defense, standing chokes and submissions and general fitness.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv yeah we did roll a lot to be honest, the way it worked was he would show us a technique, we practice it and then we roll for 5 mins and then he would break us up and show us something new. The big emphasis was groundwork as it was a part of an MMA class, although i am quite natural at it i guess i just didn't find it all that appealing
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 Thanks for your time and info but I will remain a skeptic. Maybe if a seminar comes to town I'll check it out but I certainly wouldn't pay these guys to show me their system.
jakesilv 1 year ago
@jakesilv ...unsimilar to Vlad's. I must admit, I questioned the validity of the art for a while myself. Some of Vlad's concepts seem ...well, off. But seeing one of his student's in action made a believer out of me. One can see the logic behind his movements more easily...or at least I could.
/watch?v=AnxlXPmLTjo
ghede13 1 year ago
@jakesilv *not* unsimilar to Vlad's...
ghede13 1 year ago
Slow = safe + other things. Looking to be proved, impressed or entertained by Systema?!
Get off your ass, find nearest group, check it out and demand full speed full contact test. IN PERSON.
Tape, post and tell us all how fake it was!
StoyTamIdiSuda 2 years ago
my suggestion...........dont train in one art. you can be an aikido fifth dan and beat up some guy but then you meet someone from BJJ and get your ass owned, minus will learn multiple things
Mider999 2 years ago
DO IT IN REAL TIME DUDE
Mider999 2 years ago
Fake, bullshit and rubbish is the infantile opinion with no personal experience.
Easy is talking trash about substance beyond current comprehension level.
Do not like it?! Do not understand it?! Too bad. If you are lucky one day you may. In a mean time enjoy whatever warms your heart.
KamazUtrom 2 years ago
Common sense is not monopolized either but some cyber experts use one only to mumble while hiding underneath online anonymity. There are nearly a hundred participants on this seminar and they look fairly intelligent unlike morons farting comments without a slightest clue.
Vladimir Vasiliev is the Master of highest caliber and in past twenty years nobody could prove otherwise although many including myself tried.
KamazUtrom 2 years ago
he may be a competent fighter, but what hes teaching is rubbish.You will rarely if ever get a solid fighter attending these seminars simply because they recognise bullshit from a mile away.Whats shown in these clips is as far away from common sense as possible.If something looks too easy it nearly always is fake.
billysue2 2 years ago
what most people don't realise is basically all martial art should use the systema methodology.
The slow train is not some dead boring stale kata but rather real geomatry and real movement slowed down
and also what most people do not realise is it is easier to do this stuff fast provided you understand the geomatry
Personally I pratice knife defence at a very fast pace and the best thing that serves me is knowledge of geomatry and realising to breath and to remian relaxed
NewZealfighter 2 years ago
geometry has nothing to do with ,you mean efficient biomechanics and systema hasnt a monopoly on that.This vasiliev guy is a clown and the seminar participants must be fools not to walk out.This reminds me of those aikido demos where the ukes jump all over the place for the master.
billysue2 2 years ago
billysueyou
Ok geometry was my personal word to describ it.However, I like efficient bioechanics
Sure systema dose not have a monopoly on it but their methodology is well thought out
Personally I don't care what you think of systema of Valdimir,you seem like a nay saying troll just trying to troll it up
as for your opinions well I would say.......................All hail the mighty keyboard warrior!
NewZealfighter 2 years ago 4
Ronny, opinion based on miniscule data derived from free footage can not be argued. Thus I comment to balance credibility of zero exposure position with one based on hands on experience.
Fraud implies poor price-value ratio. What Vasiliev, Ryabko and Kadochnikov (Starov does not really belong here) have to offer carries much more value than you (unfortunately) can see on a screen and incidentally much more than what they charge for it.
Do not try it! Keep the price low for the rest of us.
KamazUtrom 2 years ago
in a sense i agree with Ronny. it's easy to say those things and do them in slow motion. when you have to do it for real it's not so easy. however i for one fully recomment using what some call dirty tactics. you just have to be careful where and when you use them. so in a way, i agree with both of you. your best chance of making them work, is to be the better grappler for instance. or at least have some sort of control over the person.
kempobrad 2 years ago
Alot of people are nay sayers of systema but like any other form of martial arts it takes years to master something, if someone just been attending couple of seminars the odds are they are gonna lose in a fight. Ive been doing systema for 8 months, i like it, and i personally think i could do alot of things better than some guys who has been doing systema for 5 years but i have wrestled for 20. But to say one system is better than another is bull, its the amount of training a person had.
koshkudro 2 years ago
People always seem to love a controversy (here I am getting into one myself!) but... it seems on every systema vid there's a comment about the almighty wisdom to be gained from ufc and mma. ufc has RULES! no eyes, no balls, no throat, no biting, no spitting; these joint locks OK, these ones not, time limits, space limits, etc etc.
Those guys are amazing fighters and athletes, sure. But "watch ufc, QED" doesn't is not a valid argument about effective self defence.
jonoderidder 2 years ago 2
In the ufc, however, a fighter is gurrenteed to meet real resistance.
The techniques favored in the ufc, that stem from bjj, wrestling and muay thai, have been functionally PROVEN.
Also, whenever someone starts saying "my style is too aggressive to be tested for efficacy" you know you got a charlettan infront of you.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
Hello Mr Sayfan. I never said any style is too agressive to be tested. And my point seems to have passed you by. What do you mean by "functionally proven"? I guess you mean that those techniqes have been successful 1 on 1 in a UFC ring with UFC rules. Agree with you on that. But combat arises in an infinite number of shapes and sizes, and what is successful in UFC is not necessarily successful in other situations.
jonoderidder 2 years ago
I find your arguments to be misleading my friend.
If you train seriously you understand how difficult it can be to overcome even one determined man. A teacher claiming his ART to be effective against multiple opponents is a liar. (running seems to be the best skill in THAT case).
Fighting more than one opponent has to do with strategy more then tactics - meaning that you'll have to keep moving so that you'll deal with them ONE AT a TIME in succession. it's in the strategy, NOT art in itself.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
So all arts are 1 on 1.
now, can you train for an INFINITE number of scenarios? no. as a matter of fact you don't have too.
Learn to obseve your enviorment and use it to your advantage, whatever it is. that's all.
Next - the weakest argument, "there are so many rules in MMA" - when was the last time you gouged a sparring partner's eye out? Or "practiced" biting him in the neck? or had a 20 minute all-out sparring? (time limits...)
And anyway, that's not what would make you EFFECTIVE.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
What will make you effective is the right methdology - the appliance of technique against a RESISTING opponent.
Vasiliev can practice his sun-glasses throwing, or suit-case disarm gimmicks all day long my friend.
But since he is only training with his admiring, puppy eyed, suggestion-prone students - he'll get beat-up severely in any realistic confrontation.
THE END.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
Look Mr Sayfan, I don't want a beef with you. From your homepage it seems you have more MA experience than me. All I'm saying is the fact that a technique is or is not used in UFC does not prove whether its effective (and that comes from my instructor, who knows many techniques, not me). They're (UFC) all fantastic fighters. I said that 1st up. I'm not out to say Systema is better than anything. Actually you may enjoy a Systema class. It seems to match yr philosophies. Peace
jonoderidder 2 years ago
i was the biggest skeptic of systema, so i went to see VLAD, this man is no joke he is truly amazing, the stuff he can do no ordinary man can do or a well trained MMA guy. Can this system save your life, YES, can other systems save your life, YES, its a matter of preference of what style you like but systema really works. I know few guys who say they train systema and show boat, don't listen to them, if you wanna find out what is systema go see VLAD or MIKHAEL and few others are good to, not all
koshkudro 2 years ago 2
PS, couldn't resist responding to this: if yr question was "when is the last time you did something banned in UFC" the answer wd be: last night! We worked on escaping neck holds, and for me the easiest methods included going for the face/head and peeling it away, with my fingers in the eye sockets, nostrils or ears for grip, pressuring pointing the adams apple, or finger submissions. Of course I don't dig right in to a partner's eye sockets, but we sure use em as handles
jonoderidder 2 years ago
You misinterpreted my meaning - I am not interested in peacfull drilling, I used to drill lots of these "deadly" techniques myself...
Resistance. That's the most important thing - try finger submitting someone who REALLY does'nt want you to - he'll just pull away forcefully, or hit you real quick and hard.
Pressure point the adams apple? again, for that to actually work against a forcefully squirming opponent you have to have the positional skills to force the position - be the better grappler
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
BTW, in a recent bjj competition I attended, a wrestler attempted to escape a guiliotine choke by thumbing the eyes of the choker.
A "cheat"... in sport bjj. The referee missed it, being more concerned with the choked man safety.
The choker, enraged, simply shook his head, to keep his eye moving and tightened his choke. he got the tap.
In the street he could easily have bitten the hand of the wrestler as well.
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
I am VERY appreciative of softness - having trained in several internal styles.
It gives me an adge in the "harder" arts.
My problem with Vasiliev, Ryabko, Kadochnikov, Starov etc' is that they are manipulators.
By combining simple, effective principals, with impossible-to-execute-in-real-time elaborate demostrations, speed changes, suggestion, and utter-bullshit,
they make themselves apear MUCH better than they really are.
Since the direct result is more money to them - imo it's a fraud
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
there doing it in slow motion so it looks easy do it in fast motion and beat those poeples asses and then you will impress me EXACTLY YOUR TOTALY RIGHT
Mider999 2 years ago
I might add that Oleg Taktarov trains with Vladimir. Systema and UFC are not mutually exclusive
jonoderidder 2 years ago 2
Vasiliev is a guy who stole this sistema from Mr. Kadochnikov and Mr. Lavrov and making money on that.
fedorov2002 2 years ago
this was when maria came to my birthday party over 4 and a half years ago. that was a tough egg to crack oh please. what do u do when the hottest girl alive says "no clementino im ugly" what do u say? u say i guess i love ugly girls man, like what do u want from me ;) you know? she wants everything. hottest girl ever. then i was her boyfriend. what a ruckus
Nikolai444 2 years ago
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GOlson1984 2 years ago
You wish kid. Systema sucks ass. My instructor is a personal friend of Vladimir's.. The system just doesn't work outside of teaching you how to take a hit... That's it, just how to take a hit. Rybko basically took a bunch of the psychological and conditioning methods from the Russian special forces, added a few of their moves, and repackaged it as the entire russian special forces system which is bullshit. The average person will get killed trying to use this in a fight.
HermannTheGreat 2 years ago
This does work in fact I am alive do to to my training. Until you train in it you will not understand. Hope you actually try it. Take care.
nightstalkersasslt 2 years ago
Completely and totally awesome...! And it's nice to see that Vladimir is so down to earth! ONE DAY... I shall see him in action, hehe...
agpleez 2 years ago
Kick his ass for me, alright?
SmilingRoger 2 years ago
this is not fighting, or self defense, or anything close to it. This stuff will get you killed.
Antitheist98 2 years ago
The dude with thick beard in the beginning is Dragisa Jocic - he's like 6th Dan Aikido as well. Vlad is awesome - good to see high grade guys from other styles learning from him.
sahilsingh1011 2 years ago 2
phony crap?? haha Special Ops will straight up kill mad people, do u know anything about them? These techniques along with Krav Maga are used for all Street defense and weapons. Very Useful
amato2 2 years ago 2
Phony crap that won't work in a real fight. It's just old men trying to be heroes playfighting. Someone will eventually get attacked and really hurt with this slap art.
HermannTheGreat 2 years ago
@HermannTheGreat
You've obviously never done even one Systema class... This stuff HURTS... And it doesn't JUST hurt, it kills in a real fight. Don't talk about what you know nothing about! ;)
agpleez 2 years ago
Yeah it kills, but it kills the systema guy.
Seriously, be a little more critical.
The Speznaz doesn't use Systema (which was invented by fatty Riabko and Vasiliev) but Sambo and Samoz, which are really old fight systems.
Don't let them fool you.
Riabko says "Listen to his (the enemy) soul" in another video.
Do some sparring with a resistand opponent, then you'll soon wake up.
MMA fighters have to use what works, and they all more or less use Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and boxing.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
I've done a bit of MMA myself, though I won't pretend to be expert, and I've found Systema to be most efficient when sparring (yes, with resistanT partners).
I don't see what Riabko saying "Listen to his soul" has to do with anything, really?
I don't really like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but that's personal preference - I know it's effective. I'm not much into boxing either.
agpleez 2 years ago 2
watch spetsnaz vs gean barret on deadliest warrior. the spetsanz use systemaaaaaaa. do a little fucking research, and just a little bit of training, or if trainning is too much just attend a seminar. until you do that shut the fuck and stay in your little cave. okay, okay. fuck
swanmix10 2 years ago 2
I know what I'm talking about.
Does Systema also teach good manners and linguistic skills?
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Yes, again. You are too aggressive and offending, do some more Systema, maybe it will finally calm you down.
Other people have other perceptions, you know. But we must expose scams and lies, especially when it is about self-confidence and security.
Just ignore my comments... but in my eyes, as you know, I only see crap and non-sense, and it upsets me. Never seen something like that in martial arts, ok maybe Kiai (touchless punches haha). I believe in Gracies, Bas Rutten, Mark Kerr.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
See, at least you are not totally opposed to what I say now. But you don't seem to have a really broad view on fighting (no offense intended, really), because Mark Kerr, the Gracies, and especially Bas Rutten (which I love in terms of fighting) are LEGEND of fighting. Just inform yourself. It is not about muscles, I swear. But if you want to really fight, muscles are no obstacle at all, haha... Power is also important in reality. It took me some time to understand.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
PS I dont know where you got your information from, but Fedor Emelianenko is a MMA fighter (the most realistic fighting training in my eyes); he came from Sambo and Judo.
Oleg Taktarov is also a MMA fighter, he came from Sambo, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, and is known for acrobatix Sambo take-downs. Oh well...
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Cosy and safe? Some MMA fighters are the most respected fighting machines on this planet. Check out Bas Rutten. Do you know his video "Lethal Street Fighting" ? It's one of the most brutal and realistic presentations I know. He also had countless victories in the ring. There's nothing cosy and safe about fighting in Pride or UFC. Or the Brazilian Vale Tudo (="anything goes") fights. There's nothing safe about submissions and being choked out etc. I did Wing Chun, Wing Chun is pure self-defence.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
Muay Thai is also very impressive. They viciously use knees and elbows, deadly weapons. But training is hard. Boxing is also very realistic and good in a fight. I wish I would master the reflexes of a boxer.
Anyways, as I said, check out Bas Rutten.
He comes as close to the real thing (I know it's an overused word) as it gets.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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SimulacronX 2 years ago
Ah yes,you just pretended stuff about Bas Rutten too.Bas Rutten has never said anything about Krav Maga,where did you get that from??Rutten earned black belts in Taek Won Do and full contact Karate (Kyokushin,also very good),went on to Muay Thai and then Pancrase, the precursor to MMA.Once again:He's one of the most feared and respected deadly machines on this planet.Why do you just say stuff?
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Well, I don't understand, Systema is so ridiculous, but do as you want.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Heyheyhey kid calm down!A real martial art artist doesn't lose his temper like that,and you don't have to call me names.Somehow I feel sorry I disturbed your euphoria you got from Systema,but it's just a public forum here,and I have my opinion.You know that I retorted to evey point you made,and it's easy,because you're not in reality.You don't even know MMA,you don't now legendary fighters like Bas Rutten,you don't know Wing Chun,I mean, get some experience before you open your mouth like that.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Wow, you've really been brainwashed, eh?
Poor guy... well keep on dancing at fatty Riabko's feet dude, whatever...
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Get real man
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Dunno, I suspect you to make up stories. Go to the SEAL's,you'll surely do anything but Systema there. Sorry to irritate you... but I won't change my opinion on the subject.
If you don't want to get into further agitation because I talk negatively about your beloved Systema thing, just don't bother anymore.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
dont know what to think of systema, but im interested. take for example the so called "systema punch" (relaxed hand etc). IF it really IS so effective and superior to normal technique, why for example klitschko etc dont use it?
malakoon 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
In boxing,your punch often has force its way through your opponent's guard and block him from getting in a counter punch. I don't know if a relaxed arm can do that. However,boxers do know that tensing up too much will cost them speed and power. Like you,I'm interested in Systema but not sure what to make of it. I'm keeping an open mind.
barbarydoll 2 years ago
if you are boxer try systema
dane991 2 years ago
OK. I train with one of the top featherweights in the world. He went to a Vlad seminar and said that while there is some hype to Systema, Vlad is the real deal......he sparred with Vlad and said that Vlad is MORE than capable of using this stuff effectively, and is a great sparring partner. That's coming from a top 10 MMA pro. So there you go.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Who is this top 10 MMA guy ?
SimulacronX 2 years ago
Exactly! MMA is a SPORT!!! Not real combat street fighting. Systema is, it is military/special ops, pistols, knives etc.
R396 2 years ago
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XIPM3 2 years ago
Right, Bruce Lee is a very famous Wing Chun legend;there are also people like Jacky Chan etc.Bruce Lee then changed it a bit to his own style.But most things you see in movies,it's all Wing Chun.There's an impressive WC teacher:Emin Boztepe. He masters the art for real. So get real man,please don't just talk out of your head, you just make up stuff.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
Yes,there are overly constructed forms in Wing Chun,but here also,I don't believe you know Wing Chun.If you have a good teacher,and good school,Wing Chun is quite fascinating.There are a lot of deadly,dirty tricks you learn.I'd love to show you,just to see how you react and what you think about it.I see you are interested in efficiency and defense in the streets;so Systema is just the last thing which is going to help you.You are convinced now,you will change in the future,I'm sure.
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XIPM3 2 years ago
You have no idea,eh?Many deaths happened in UFC/Pride/MMA matches.Believe me,those guys you won't fuck with in the streets.But in a match,you won't kill each other,it's a competition.You won't gauge out the eyes of your opponent,you won't kill somebody in a competition,do you?But it is brutal enough. It really looks like you compare MMA to Wrestling,which is faked bullshit of course.
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XIPM3 2 years ago
"I know what I'm talking about."
"The Speznaz doesn't use Systema but Sambo and Samoz, which are really old fight systems." sambo is used by the russian mellitary. in russia there are many special forces divisions. systema is used in several of them. i know what talking about, blah blah blah. watch spetsnaz vs gean barret on deadliest warrior. end of story get owned
swanmix10 2 years ago
Systema is Crazy....i love Aikido...but if in my city where a Systema Teacher i would start it too....its like a mix of
WingChung...Sambo...Aikido...Kyusho...Koppo...Judo..
jolyy23 2 years ago
hehe the one that has to take vasiliev around the neck at 2:35 is my teacher in systema!
MagNaMatiC 3 years ago
thats also my systema teacher :P
MshadowsenseoC 2 years ago
Waar train je dan?? hehe!
Ik train in Meppel!
MagNaMatiC 2 years ago
wow, it looks as though he's easy to get along with. In fact, if you didn't know any better, you would think he was just another student.
jacko821 3 years ago
Me, I use the Rocky Balboa System, that's work everytime!! :-)
strapotin 3 years ago
the rocky balboa system of getting punched in the head with dozens of haymakers? good luck with that.
XIPM3 2 years ago
Systema is beautiful. Don't be fooled into thinking it's as easy as Vasiliev makes it look.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
honestly, it's a fighting system, but it's art also. it's kool. i like sambo better cuz it's a fighting system but it's also sport :) it's very nice. like comparing judo and jujutsu to me. and vice versa also sure i guess. im so fucking sexy
Nikolai444 3 years ago
I am not fooled, as it is more than meets the eye. Vasiliev is the master making this look deceptively easy or simple.
RussianPunch 3 years ago 4
Да они бьют с проносом, конечно если убрать цель, то они по законам физики полетят дальше. Ногу после удара надо всегда убирать и тогда подобные фокусы не прокатят.
Galdenysh 3 years ago
togda udara ne budet...vot i vse :)
skWindwalker 3 years ago
Удар будет.
Galdenysh 3 years ago
Кажется, не найти его легко? Если противник не предоставляет сопротивление nemhuma ... В действительности это не так!
ebmasbrasil 3 years ago
mmmmnaaaa¡¡¡ muy flojos,, no estan poniedo resistencia,,, si creo ke la tesnica sea buena,,pero no asi de relajado,, no se desarrolla un combate real asi. saludos
webursio 3 years ago
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What a fraud this man is...
Sioux2 4 years ago
Why do you think that? I mean that gentleman has been in many counter-terrorism units of Spetsnaz.
photosynthesisplant 3 years ago 3
a what????
9 years in the Spetsnaz
and nr 1 outside russia
maddafakkka 3 years ago 6
This man certified my instructor, and it works. it was invented for the special forces. don't talk shit about it until u try it.
rodger603 3 years ago 6
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i try.. and its bullshit.. some things work.. most things dont work.. its like fighting how old people fuck
samurai184 3 years ago
Who did you study with? I KNOW for a fact that Vlad puts up where all you guys sit at your Keyboards typing. There are (like in ANY art) instructors of varying quality, but I've never met guys like the Systema crew - I have years of authentic Indonesian Silat, San Soo, Ju Jutsu, TKD - none of them even come close to comparing to Systema Ryabko/Vasiliev. My buddy got jumped in a bar two weeks ago and EASILY handled two attackers AND the bouncer using what Systema he knows. What style do you use?
StopMoColorado 3 years ago
From his comment i think he might be using
"keyboard combo nerdish style" or somethig like that
; )
markok27 3 years ago 5
he's using the art of pumping assfist
Nikolai444 3 years ago
No you dont, you liar
HermannTheGreat 2 years ago