This does sound like it was recorded to a cassette recorder. It has the characteristic distortion of one. But wither it was him or not is hard to say.
Doesn't sound like EVH at all, not his style. Also, as far as I know, not many people DI'd their practice at the time. More like they'd just mic everything or record it with a cheap portable cassete player and use the built-in mic.
From the sound of it hes plugging straight into a reel to reel tape recorder . They had headphone outs on em. I had one.Let this be a lesson kids. You cant use the excuse " i didnt have a good amp" . If you have 6 strings ? You have no excuse. PRACTICE YR ASS OFF ! 4 yrs later he wrote and played the most revolutionary guitar solo ever ERUPTION !
In '74 I was learning hendrix at 13. In '77 Paul Taylor of Winger fame came over one afternoon and said ya gotta hear this ... VanHalen's first album. A real scorcher. Tone like no one had ever heard before.
@DieSuperHigh He is at his parents house. He likely is playing into his Marshall but at a very low volume. Being a tube amp they tend to react differently at low volume. Tube amps like to be CRANKED.
For you guys slamming me for my 1st response. Let me make myself clear. All I meant was a LOT of people sound and play like Eddie since he prob influenced more guitarists than anyone. I grew up listening to him and loving him! He was god to me. I wasn't trying to "accuse" anyone of anything. Just questioning the authenticity since a lot of people could do that, regardless of "how" it was recorded. It's just my nature to question everything, especially our Gov. Sorry ok, I take it back.
@Sennanchie Ed influenced many people to wank on guitar, eschew songcraft and storytelling and instead just wank on endlessly, howl and screech wail and moan, which is supposed to equal "emotion"
A day in the life of Adnoydall, wake up from an insomniatic night of 30 minutes sleep, stare, and start to sweat looking at PC, figures out what personality he is at this particular moment, signs on to his homepage, Youtube, replies to hundreds of hatemails, entering hundreds of over commenting passwords, switch identities in a schizophrenic rage, answer another 100 hatemails, kicks his greyhound for getting old, and sings to himself about teen boys and fartpipes, who can I sue?......EVH is God
@CatchinProjection The endless and pointless guitar solo started with the psychedelic bands of the 1960's and the results of that were often a lot more brutal than anything I saw in the 1970's and 1980's.
@robibm2003 the fad then was to dope up on psychedelia, then "musically explore new horizons" and "express deep thoughts from a parallel universe" etc. Fans slavishly followed suit and adored their idols' crap, regardless. I feel this fad was revived by legions of players glomming onto Eds then-new gimmick of shred and wanking away, regardless. Ed himself eventually crammed his trademark wank into his breezy pop tune Jump Guitars gotta cost $2k + now too
i am so fucken drunk i just cant beleve in the near futer new fuckin vanhalen and whin the come to toronto i will get fucken wate out in the fucken cold to get a fucken ticket
This is an interesting study for anyone who ever wondered why van halen never had a rythmn guitarist. The fact is, he played both. You can hear in the recording how early he figured it out.
I just realized he down tuned to D on the lower E during the "Get me a doctor" riff! I can't believe Eddie was using alternative tunings way back in 74. Nobody was doing that back then, not even Hendrix. Or at least not that I know of. I mean... a shit load of guitarists could simply noodle around on a guitar, record it on some cheesy cassette player, post it on youtube and claim it was some legendary guitarist who was up and coming. Gotta question it is all I'm saying.
@Sennanchie Hendrix died in 1970. The Drop D tuning been standard practice since the 1960's. Do you question David Lee Roth's voice at the end along with Eddie and Michael's? How many cheesy cassette players are around these days along with the cassettes?
@nkmcfrln No kidding?! I didn't realize guitarists were doing that way back since the 60's. Never really heard any guitarists from that era playing in that format, or at least recognized anyone doing it anyhow. I think it's very cool that someone posted this original demo/practice tape Eddie made way back then. I just wonder how and where the person who posted it acquired it from. Don't get me wrong, it probably is authentic, I just have a habit of questioning everything is all.
@Sennanchie I copied a list from a link from Wikipedia and cut out all of the grunge and the post grunge songs that were examples of Drop D tunings: * Dear Prudence - The Beatles * The Chain - Fleetwood Mac * Ohio - Neil Young * Harvest Moon - Neil Young * Moby Dick - Led Zeppelin * Kashmir - Led Zeppelin * The End - The Doors
@nkmcfrln Hey thanx man. Honestly, I never really even thought about who was the first one to start using alternative tunings. I just know it was big in the 80's. Actually the first song(s) I learned with the dropped D was "Unchained" then "Ratt's" "Lay it down". lol
@Sennanchie Keith Richards was big on alternate tunings and cassette players. He used a Phillips cassette player with no limiters to record Street Fighting Man with two acoustics played right into the mike and hit very hard. I knew about this from along time ago and I remembered that it was a Phillips that he used but I got more details from a website.
@residentdrummerpete Hey, I just realized you are the only one who noticed that. Guess no one else picked up on it. I really didn't analyze it at first, I just noticed right off the bat he was not using 440 and I assumed it was drop D cuz that's what he was noted for. Everyone else on here keeps referring to the drop D. But what's even more annoying is people keep posing to me saying: "Yeah man... drop D was being done before Eddie man". It's kind of getting annoying.
@Sennanchie You call throwing out accusations supported with a wall of bullshit being civil at all? And I wasn't being rude at all, I didn't call you any names, or use profanity. I made an obvious observation.
@Zoso709 I didn't "accuse" anyone of anything I simply questioned the authenticity of it is all, and you call that "bullshit"? You think by merely questioning how some guy on youtube acquired this recording to begin with is a wall of bullshit, and I should just give it instant merit because it sounds like him so it must be him? But hey... there's a good chance it is him anyways. I never said it is NOT him. Btw... at the end of my post I said: "Gotta question it is all I'm saying".
@Zoso709 Ok man. But I never said It "wasn't" used before, I just said I wasn't "aware of it " is all. But honestly, I spoke too hastily when I posted cuz I knew Jimmy Page used it in "The Rain Song". My bad on that one. But I don't wanna debate with you my man. It's just cool to pass on knowledge with one another in the guitar world. The first tune I learned how to play with drop D was "Unchained" which happens to be the 1st tune they opened with when I saw them live in 84.
@Zoso709 Yep, you got me. Your right once again. I was just referring to alternative tunings in general, not just drop D. But you couldn't wait to slam (I mean correct) me on it. But thank you for that pleasant correction though, as usual. I really appreciate it. I was trying to be cool in my last post to you, but you still had to go and make some lame ass dig. You take care my fellow guitarist.
@Zoso709 Yeah... you are indeed bro. I know sometimes it's fun to screw with people on here, as I do it too. But as far as learning a lesson is concerned.... the only lesson that might be is to not take anyone or anything too seriously!
I just realized he down tuned to D on the lower E during the "Get me a doctor" riff! I can't believe Eddie was using alternative tunings way back in 74. Nobody was going that back then, not even Hendrix. Or at least not that I know of.
@iceicebreaker2 Yes, I know that now. You must have not read all the other comments sent to me about it. I've been "bombarded" with people like yourself telling me that. Funny thing is... it turns out he's not even using drop D tuning, he's actually doing a drop A. At least that's what a fellow Youtuber told me in response to my comment. Haven't taken the time to analyze it yet though.
Hey, to the person who uploaded this. Where in the HELL did you get this archive from??!! I can't understand how someone got a hold of a Eddie practicing four years before the debut album was released. It makes me question the authenticity of it. I'm not saying you are a liar, but I just find it hard to believe this is truly Eddie in 1974 because how would one acquire this old recording? Especially before they even had cassette players out on the market at that time? Makes me wonder
@Sennanchie , I do not question the authenticity, because it's easy to tell. AND what do you mean cassette players were not on the market in 1974 ? Lol, what are you like 15 and getting info off the net ? I had a cassette player back then. Although your real question is very good, how did this person acquire this recording ?
I am not sure about this. It does Ed playing through a home stereo but it it is a bit too convenient. The only people that confirm this as genuine are Jan VH or Euginia who are both passed away now or Alex coming home from getting his leg over or Ed. It does sound very sorta Jamming Ed learning his licks. Call me a doctor is in there, The staccato picking is evident as well as thechord riffs, If this is the biggest hoax ever then it is a convincing one. We will just have to ask Ed
@Zoso709 True...^_^...but this is a 17yr old kid..Jimi page is a huge influence on me( I play with a bow..I wonder where I learned that llol) but this is a unique sound...74' this is the sound that was coming and he was the 1 bringing it...
@ajjs02 Well first off it's Jimmy not Jimi lol. But listen to Jimmy Page's mid-years. Especially Phsyical Graffiti it's where Eddie got a bunch of his influence.
Check out the song The Rover. You should see what I mean.
@Zoso709 ,,Man I don' t have to listen to anything..I can play with a bow..both zepp and originals..I have a wall of guitars.lap steels,basses..I play a lot..this isn't hypothetical..I play..there are things going on here with eddi's fingers you clearly don't understand...this isn't like any body else's playing..Jimmy's mid years are with the yard birds man...zepp is the late years....I have been playing zepp in covers since about 84'..Left and right hand techniques here are totally different.
@ajjs02 What the fuck you are talking about ignorant piece of shit? Jimmy Page was in the yardbirds in his EARLY twenties and only for about a year. That wasn't mid. Zeppelin was even early. I don't give a fuck about what you own, I don't care if you play with a bow, and I certainly did not say anything remotely related to left and right handed techniques. You didn't even know how to spell Jimmy a few hours ago so again, you are an ignorant fuck.
@Zoso709 becarefull wannabe..your gonna get cheesy powder all over your dad's key board..your a know nothing wannbe...start playing and then come on here after you have at least 1000hrs playing...you'll be a different person..all grown up.Jimmy was in the yard birds for over 4 yrs..and he own's the name..zepp was supposed to be "the new yard birds"...it wasn't until Keith Moon gave them the idea "you'll go down like a led zepplin".your the ignorant lil' fuckin'piece of shit.have a nice day
@Zoso709 He was producing and jamming with them longer than he was in the band. (he also owns the name"yard birds").something wiki will not tell you.there is noway you can even play.it's easy to tell.stay off your dad's computer.good luck being a librarian.your obsessed with typing clearly.go the fuck away moron.the grown ups would like to listen to evh in peace.without your droning on about how much influence JIMMY had on evh.evh's hero is clapton.they warm upon Cream songs. your blocked
In 74, Ed was just a guitar-playin' kid watchin' One Day At A Time and thinking all the same thoughts that we were all thinking about that young brunette; Gees, that Mackenzie Phillips is sure nasty.
@strangher11 Wrong!! 25 years ago my buddy and me had shit to use he would borrow guitars bring them to my house we had no money!!!!. And we took an stereo amp and cranked it and put it throw a speaker .If you try this you get this sound, he had no money as well and in 74 this would be hard to come by I'm sure he got hes amp and guitar not to long after this.There could be lots of reason's why you hear it like this.I also could be wrong about this for the most part but not for the beginning
@darksith36 Totally true! My Dad showed me that when I was a kid, Back in the 60's and 70's stereo receivers used to have Mic inputs, you plug your guitar in, crank the mic level all the way up and it sounds just like this, He showed me how to use a reel to reel like this also and use the sound on sound echo.
@mojorisen74 i can make that sound if i plug my guitar in to the mic input of the mixer of an karaoke machine and then i put the colour cables of it to my stereo's cd input then i press the cd-button and the sound comes from the speakers
@mojorisen74 Ha. We used to DREAM of having a dad around, let alone one who was capable of showing us "the ropes" on how to fully utilize our stereo receiver.
This reportedly a practice tape recorded directly in to the tape recorder which explains the insane distortion. The voices at the end are a different recording later after they were famous and on tour, hence Dave losing his hotel key...again! Room 907 apparently! Also hear them hitting on the woman asking if she wants to "slam ham" crazy!
@n2motocross Uh, NO, he didn't. He had some input in the 'D-tuna', the hipshot-ish part that can go on certain Floyds. Check out Led Zeppelin sometime. Drop D, altered tunings, great stuff about 7-10 years before VH broke.
This tone is definitely on account of a crappy pignose amp and a cassette recorder. I'm just guessing, but that's what it sounds like, because I had the same setup back then too.
Pretty crazy to think that a tape lasted this long without decaying into inaudible rubbish. I wonder what kind of archaic dinosaur equipment he recorded this on?
I use to get a sound like this recording into a Kenwood tape deck and ampliphying through the speakers of my home stereo. The crackling and bad low end reminds me of that...the things you do when you don't have a real amp handy.
@GuitarHickNick Booze and cocaine. That's it. He never smoked crack or did meth. I have mutual friends of Eddie and I know a lot of crazy shit about him, but with all the money he has, why would he do meth? Coke was his thing from about '80 until his divorce when he realized it was fucking him up too bad. He never did heroin either. Where do you hear this shit?
What is this first song he is playing? Is that a song at all? And how he's doing this on 0:17, is that picking after the end of fret and a pinch after that or Van Halen's magic? :D
Ed's rhythm parts are always so interesting & intricate with emotion! That's why he has SONGS even before adding support of a band. He's no slouch, that's for sure.
Yes jamming on rhythm parts is a great way to start out. That's ALL I used to do as a kid - and some the hooks I wrote were pretty snarky, wish I could find them now!
@TeesByTruthSurge they did play in the garage out back some.but i don't think he could have cranked up a stack in the house.If this is him & if he recorded it at his house.I've also recorded direct & through amps so i can see what your saying but in 74 it probably is just a bullshit cheep practice amp. As far as playing through real amps by then your right .He was. But i own 6 amps now from a practice amp up to my Marshall & can play all of them from time to time. I'm sure he could do the same.
@TeesByTruthSurge Maybe i should'nt have started by saying (ya your totally wrong) sorry. But this does sound like a practice amp from the 70's just like the 10 watt amp i started on. Eddie had played through all kinds of amps up till he got the Marshall & i think its safe to say he may of had a cheep practice amp at his house. I just drove by the house in Pasadena a couple of weeks ago that they lived in with ther parents till the 3rd album & they have nieghbors to close to crank. even though
@TeesByTruthSurge You can tell thats how Eddie attacks the strings. It sounds just like the practice amp me & most of my friends started out on. I hate to sound old but kids now have so many advantages. you buy a quallity sounding guitar for $100 or $200 bucks & the same with amps & recording. it was primative back then.As far as what he probably recorded into everybody i knew got one those cheap tape recorders for christmas he probably did too. & how do u explane Eddie & Daves voices at the end
i lov how my school there is a band and everyone is like o they r so great i can play the same freaking songs and i tought myself lol!!! to be great at guitar it takes talent not lessons, lol they dont even write their own songs...i do nd havnever taken lessons,,,.....
this is ed allright the first thing all great guitar players do, is make riff then advance to soloing o noodling in eddies case, coz then you feel more confident and you have all the basics...
@6672rock hey btw this might be a dumb question but theirs really such a thing called a baritone guitar? or do u mean bass guitar...or do u mean a set up like charlie hunter?
@epw330 There are baritone guitars. With alot of players tuning down so low (Low E>C) they now sell baritone guitars. I guess it all started with the 7 string models, then evolved from there.
@6672rock Octave pedal. I've never heard him using one on the early material. I would think there would have been at least some mention of that. I know he used MXR phase and flange pedals. Some kind of delays too, but I gotta call bullshit on this for no other reason than the use of the octave pedal. I hope I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt this is Ed.
@tonyfrombalt it ain't ed. this guitar is not the raw strat sound and there's no way a guy like ed is going to play ONLY riffs and no licks and straight into a recorder (no amp). Anyone can make a crap recording straight into a recorder (as this is) and add some hiss and boom! you have a rare home recording from WHOEVER! I call bullshit. The voices at the end... added for authenticity. But... Maybe I'm totally wrong.
This sounds like a Marshall at low volume.
CrazyFrazee1 2 weeks ago
this can't be EVH because I was even better than this in 1974...and I quit playing in 1975 because I sucked.
gl797 4 weeks ago
LOL@ "Artists of slamming ham" ahahahaa
superjet113 1 month ago
Fookin Choker !!!
DrWrongPaul 1 month ago
Im eating a bowl of Coco Pebbles right now.
dwilmer7 1 month ago 4
too funny!
elevn7 1 month ago
shouldn't Eddie have more of a Dutch accent here? This is early '70's right? Well,, who knows,,, ;^) Cheers!
geetarnut 1 month ago
not vanhalen
dutchman063 1 month ago
@dutchman063 lool
westbohan 1 month ago
Alex = Hyde from That 70's Show.
FlamingFretboard 2 months ago 3
@FlamingFretboard no! hyde from that 70's show=ALEX
MrP90xer 1 week ago
"I WAS NOT trying to jump down her throat! ...I was trying to jump up her ahhh..."
fugitive1201 2 months ago
Like Eddy said, he loves to play rhythm, all that other shit is just jerking off!
Andgrey 2 months ago
This does sound like it was recorded to a cassette recorder. It has the characteristic distortion of one. But wither it was him or not is hard to say.
BinaryReaper 2 months ago
@BinaryReaper no question
sw1tched 2 months ago
wow the brown acid warning from THAT generation
/watch?v=s4uqBkiVV5A
damn that vhatabad picture dahling
SuperMegaUberGenius 3 months ago
hello ladies it's 2011 got a job?
SuperMegaUberGenius 3 months ago
0:20 I can't do that because I've got floyd rose :(
westbohan 3 months ago
@westbohan eddie wouldnt of had a floyd then either because they hadn't been created so that was either a fender style tremolo or he was neck bending
mynamesnotwill 1 month ago
@mynamesnotwill yap, i cant neck bend :/
westbohan 1 month ago
Doesn't sound like EVH at all, not his style. Also, as far as I know, not many people DI'd their practice at the time. More like they'd just mic everything or record it with a cheap portable cassete player and use the built-in mic.
TinManSixtySix 3 months ago
@TinManSixtySix that is absolutely ed's playing in the 70's, you have heard him right? you can even hear dave in the backround
sw1tched 2 months ago
Would love to hear this riff on the new album.
TheHockeyCentral 3 months ago
Firts riff EVH is working on sounds like a cross between 'Children of the Sun' and 'Cabo Wabo'...rockin stuff'!
Sure are a lot of sniffing sounds there in the hotel room portion of the tape...someone had a case of the Colombian Flu, perhaps?
MostAncientOne 3 months ago
Too far ahead of his time!!THE KING!!!!!ENUFF SAID!!!!!
cbyss1 3 months ago
From the sound of it hes plugging straight into a reel to reel tape recorder . They had headphone outs on em. I had one.Let this be a lesson kids. You cant use the excuse " i didnt have a good amp" . If you have 6 strings ? You have no excuse. PRACTICE YR ASS OFF ! 4 yrs later he wrote and played the most revolutionary guitar solo ever ERUPTION !
cobias 3 months ago 2
@cobias A-MEN dude ! totally agree
jsivna 3 weeks ago
Notice that he's practicing rhythm?I always tell people to realise how good Eddie is,listen to him underneath the vocals.
jimllfaxit 3 months ago
In '74 I was learning hendrix at 13. In '77 Paul Taylor of Winger fame came over one afternoon and said ya gotta hear this ... VanHalen's first album. A real scorcher. Tone like no one had ever heard before.
photopicker 3 months ago
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bwrizzo 3 months ago
is it just me or does his guitar tone sound kinda bad >____>
DieSuperHigh 3 months ago
@DieSuperHigh He is at his parents house. He likely is playing into his Marshall but at a very low volume. Being a tube amp they tend to react differently at low volume. Tube amps like to be CRANKED.
MikeMzeski 3 months ago
slam the ham!
bradkilgas 3 months ago
This is not EVH...
DLRisVH 3 months ago
@DLRisVH Your ears are quite bad dude
ShivaTheAuspicious 3 months ago
For you guys slamming me for my 1st response. Let me make myself clear. All I meant was a LOT of people sound and play like Eddie since he prob influenced more guitarists than anyone. I grew up listening to him and loving him! He was god to me. I wasn't trying to "accuse" anyone of anything. Just questioning the authenticity since a lot of people could do that, regardless of "how" it was recorded. It's just my nature to question everything, especially our Gov. Sorry ok, I take it back.
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie Ed influenced many people to wank on guitar, eschew songcraft and storytelling and instead just wank on endlessly, howl and screech wail and moan, which is supposed to equal "emotion"
CatchinProjection 3 months ago
@CatchinProjection Opinions vary.
Sennanchie 3 months ago
@Sennanchie Exactly. And its a good thing they do, otherwise everyone might be forced to adore Ed as God under threat of death.
CatchinProjection 3 months ago
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A day in the life of Adnoydall, wake up from an insomniatic night of 30 minutes sleep, stare, and start to sweat looking at PC, figures out what personality he is at this particular moment, signs on to his homepage, Youtube, replies to hundreds of hatemails, entering hundreds of over commenting passwords, switch identities in a schizophrenic rage, answer another 100 hatemails, kicks his greyhound for getting old, and sings to himself about teen boys and fartpipes, who can I sue?......EVH is God
Lucicsux 2 months ago
@CatchinProjection The endless and pointless guitar solo started with the psychedelic bands of the 1960's and the results of that were often a lot more brutal than anything I saw in the 1970's and 1980's.
robibm2003 3 months ago
@robibm2003 the fad then was to dope up on psychedelia, then "musically explore new horizons" and "express deep thoughts from a parallel universe" etc. Fans slavishly followed suit and adored their idols' crap, regardless. I feel this fad was revived by legions of players glomming onto Eds then-new gimmick of shred and wanking away, regardless. Ed himself eventually crammed his trademark wank into his breezy pop tune Jump Guitars gotta cost $2k + now too
CatchinProjection 3 months ago
Thanx for releasing this guys...^_^
ajjs02 4 months ago
the timing is so wonderful.. and after all that is really what makes it Van Halen
wood666wood 4 months ago
holy shit what is the first riff hes playing?
RetroBasement 4 months ago
Truelly, Mountmental Fabulous!!!
Thedwinston69 4 months ago
i am so fucken drunk i just cant beleve in the near futer new fuckin vanhalen and whin the come to toronto i will get fucken wate out in the fucken cold to get a fucken ticket
5150jango5150 4 months ago
@5150jango5150 Dad? I told you to speak English when you're posting a comment on you tube. Uhg!
gmrios 4 months ago
@5150jango5150, Wow how immature, loser and low life, grow up.
DADSGETNDOWN 4 months ago
This is an interesting study for anyone who ever wondered why van halen never had a rythmn guitarist. The fact is, he played both. You can hear in the recording how early he figured it out.
mindeloman 4 months ago 2
I just realized he down tuned to D on the lower E during the "Get me a doctor" riff! I can't believe Eddie was using alternative tunings way back in 74. Nobody was doing that back then, not even Hendrix. Or at least not that I know of. I mean... a shit load of guitarists could simply noodle around on a guitar, record it on some cheesy cassette player, post it on youtube and claim it was some legendary guitarist who was up and coming. Gotta question it is all I'm saying.
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie Hendrix died in 1970. The Drop D tuning been standard practice since the 1960's. Do you question David Lee Roth's voice at the end along with Eddie and Michael's? How many cheesy cassette players are around these days along with the cassettes?
nkmcfrln 4 months ago
@nkmcfrln No kidding?! I didn't realize guitarists were doing that way back since the 60's. Never really heard any guitarists from that era playing in that format, or at least recognized anyone doing it anyhow. I think it's very cool that someone posted this original demo/practice tape Eddie made way back then. I just wonder how and where the person who posted it acquired it from. Don't get me wrong, it probably is authentic, I just have a habit of questioning everything is all.
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie I copied a list from a link from Wikipedia and cut out all of the grunge and the post grunge songs that were examples of Drop D tunings: * Dear Prudence - The Beatles * The Chain - Fleetwood Mac * Ohio - Neil Young * Harvest Moon - Neil Young * Moby Dick - Led Zeppelin * Kashmir - Led Zeppelin * The End - The Doors
nkmcfrln 4 months ago
@nkmcfrln Hey thanx man. Honestly, I never really even thought about who was the first one to start using alternative tunings. I just know it was big in the 80's. Actually the first song(s) I learned with the dropped D was "Unchained" then "Ratt's" "Lay it down". lol
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie Keith Richards was big on alternate tunings and cassette players. He used a Phillips cassette player with no limiters to record Street Fighting Man with two acoustics played right into the mike and hit very hard. I knew about this from along time ago and I remembered that it was a Phillips that he used but I got more details from a website.
nkmcfrln 4 months ago
@Sennanchie thats actually drop A he's using
residentdrummerpete 4 months ago
@residentdrummerpete Hey, I just realized you are the only one who noticed that. Guess no one else picked up on it. I really didn't analyze it at first, I just noticed right off the bat he was not using 440 and I assumed it was drop D cuz that's what he was noted for. Everyone else on here keeps referring to the drop D. But what's even more annoying is people keep posing to me saying: "Yeah man... drop D was being done before Eddie man". It's kind of getting annoying.
Sennanchie 3 months ago
@Sennanchie Yeah you have no clue what you're talking about about. Drop D was around much earlier than 74.
Zoso709 4 months ago
@Zoso709 You don't have to be rude dude. I said.. "not that I know of". If you can't keep it civil, don't post at all.
Sennanchie 4 months ago
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Zoso709 4 months ago
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@Sennanchie You call throwing out accusations supported with a wall of bullshit being civil at all? And I wasn't being rude at all, I didn't call you any names, or use profanity. I made an obvious observation.
Zoso709 4 months ago
@Zoso709 I didn't "accuse" anyone of anything I simply questioned the authenticity of it is all, and you call that "bullshit"? You think by merely questioning how some guy on youtube acquired this recording to begin with is a wall of bullshit, and I should just give it instant merit because it sounds like him so it must be him? But hey... there's a good chance it is him anyways. I never said it is NOT him. Btw... at the end of my post I said: "Gotta question it is all I'm saying".
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie Your "questioning" wasn't the bullshit, your claims about Drop D not being used before this is the bullshit.
Zoso709 3 months ago
@Zoso709 Ok man. But I never said It "wasn't" used before, I just said I wasn't "aware of it " is all. But honestly, I spoke too hastily when I posted cuz I knew Jimmy Page used it in "The Rain Song". My bad on that one. But I don't wanna debate with you my man. It's just cool to pass on knowledge with one another in the guitar world. The first tune I learned how to play with drop D was "Unchained" which happens to be the 1st tune they opened with when I saw them live in 84.
Sennanchie 3 months ago
@Sennanchie
Yeah more bullshit. Rain Song was in open D, not drop D.
Zoso709 3 months ago
@Zoso709 Yep, you got me. Your right once again. I was just referring to alternative tunings in general, not just drop D. But you couldn't wait to slam (I mean correct) me on it. But thank you for that pleasant correction though, as usual. I really appreciate it. I was trying to be cool in my last post to you, but you still had to go and make some lame ass dig. You take care my fellow guitarist.
Sennanchie 3 months ago
@Sennanchie Lol, I'm just a troll bro. The internet is full of them. I hope you've learned a lesson.
Zoso709 3 months ago
@Zoso709 Yeah... you are indeed bro. I know sometimes it's fun to screw with people on here, as I do it too. But as far as learning a lesson is concerned.... the only lesson that might be is to not take anyone or anything too seriously!
Sennanchie 3 months ago
@Sennanchie , are you nuts ? you can tell by the way it sounds in the fingering it's Eddie. Unless you have no ear or idea.
DADSGETNDOWN 4 months ago
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DADSGETNDOWN 4 months ago
I just realized he down tuned to D on the lower E during the "Get me a doctor" riff! I can't believe Eddie was using alternative tunings way back in 74. Nobody was going that back then, not even Hendrix. Or at least not that I know of.
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie People were doing Drop D way before this...
iceicebreaker2 3 months ago
@iceicebreaker2 Yes, I know that now. You must have not read all the other comments sent to me about it. I've been "bombarded" with people like yourself telling me that. Funny thing is... it turns out he's not even using drop D tuning, he's actually doing a drop A. At least that's what a fellow Youtuber told me in response to my comment. Haven't taken the time to analyze it yet though.
Sennanchie 3 months ago
Hey, to the person who uploaded this. Where in the HELL did you get this archive from??!! I can't understand how someone got a hold of a Eddie practicing four years before the debut album was released. It makes me question the authenticity of it. I'm not saying you are a liar, but I just find it hard to believe this is truly Eddie in 1974 because how would one acquire this old recording? Especially before they even had cassette players out on the market at that time? Makes me wonder
Sennanchie 4 months ago
@Sennanchie , I do not question the authenticity, because it's easy to tell. AND what do you mean cassette players were not on the market in 1974 ? Lol, what are you like 15 and getting info off the net ? I had a cassette player back then. Although your real question is very good, how did this person acquire this recording ?
DADSGETNDOWN 4 months ago
@5:11 i thought he was gonna play Unchained
cydonianman 4 months ago
I am not sure about this. It does Ed playing through a home stereo but it it is a bit too convenient. The only people that confirm this as genuine are Jan VH or Euginia who are both passed away now or Alex coming home from getting his leg over or Ed. It does sound very sorta Jamming Ed learning his licks. Call me a doctor is in there, The staccato picking is evident as well as thechord riffs, If this is the biggest hoax ever then it is a convincing one. We will just have to ask Ed
M13FKU 5 months ago
@M13FKU This is Eddie, you just have to have an ear, his rhythm, his timing, his rotation of chords, it's very much so eddie and a van halen feel.
Tonechase 4 months ago
@M13FKU , Agree totally. Think it will happen ?
DADSGETNDOWN 4 months ago
thats so cool drop d\c back then ON an electric guitar awesome thanks for sharing,
theantfish 5 months ago in playlist More videos from VanHalenStoreDOTcom
Fuck this is so modern for 1974....NOBODY sounded like this in 74'...Only EDDIE...^_^
ajjs02 5 months ago 2
@ajjs02 What about Jimmy Page?
Zoso709 4 months ago
@Zoso709 True...^_^...but this is a 17yr old kid..Jimi page is a huge influence on me( I play with a bow..I wonder where I learned that llol) but this is a unique sound...74' this is the sound that was coming and he was the 1 bringing it...
ajjs02 4 months ago
@ajjs02 Well first off it's Jimmy not Jimi lol. But listen to Jimmy Page's mid-years. Especially Phsyical Graffiti it's where Eddie got a bunch of his influence.
Check out the song The Rover. You should see what I mean.
Zoso709 4 months ago
@Zoso709 ,,Man I don' t have to listen to anything..I can play with a bow..both zepp and originals..I have a wall of guitars.lap steels,basses..I play a lot..this isn't hypothetical..I play..there are things going on here with eddi's fingers you clearly don't understand...this isn't like any body else's playing..Jimmy's mid years are with the yard birds man...zepp is the late years....I have been playing zepp in covers since about 84'..Left and right hand techniques here are totally different.
ajjs02 4 months ago
@ajjs02 What the fuck you are talking about ignorant piece of shit? Jimmy Page was in the yardbirds in his EARLY twenties and only for about a year. That wasn't mid. Zeppelin was even early. I don't give a fuck about what you own, I don't care if you play with a bow, and I certainly did not say anything remotely related to left and right handed techniques. You didn't even know how to spell Jimmy a few hours ago so again, you are an ignorant fuck.
Get some social skills.
Zoso709 4 months ago
@Zoso709 becarefull wannabe..your gonna get cheesy powder all over your dad's key board..your a know nothing wannbe...start playing and then come on here after you have at least 1000hrs playing...you'll be a different person..all grown up.Jimmy was in the yard birds for over 4 yrs..and he own's the name..zepp was supposed to be "the new yard birds"...it wasn't until Keith Moon gave them the idea "you'll go down like a led zepplin".your the ignorant lil' fuckin'piece of shit.have a nice day
ajjs02 4 months ago
@ajjs02
A. I've played well over 1000 hours on guitar
B. Jimmy Page was in the Yardbirds from late 66 to early 68. That's not 4 years.
C. It's Zeppelin, not zepplin
D. You have the grammar level of a 7 year old.
Please check your sources before ATTEMPTING to sound smart. Dumb fuck.
Zoso709 3 months ago
@Zoso709 He was producing and jamming with them longer than he was in the band. (he also owns the name"yard birds").something wiki will not tell you.there is noway you can even play.it's easy to tell.stay off your dad's computer.good luck being a librarian.your obsessed with typing clearly.go the fuck away moron.the grown ups would like to listen to evh in peace.without your droning on about how much influence JIMMY had on evh.evh's hero is clapton.they warm upon Cream songs. your blocked
ajjs02 3 months ago
Mikey has been going bald since way back! Mad Anthony rules.
DiamondPlatedJim 6 months ago 2
i love how eddie is flirting with that chick haha!
VanHalenWorshiper 6 months ago
TABS PLEASE!!
1Wanu1 6 months ago
"Aw, man. I lost my key again. How the f*** did I do that!?" Lol xD
howellpower3 6 months ago 2
Everytime I run out of creative juice for my guitar I listen to this and it gets me going full force again
angusyounghero 6 months ago 6
In 74, Ed was just a guitar-playin' kid watchin' One Day At A Time and thinking all the same thoughts that we were all thinking about that young brunette; Gees, that Mackenzie Phillips is sure nasty.
guitartec 6 months ago 17
@guitartec --- MacKenzie looked like a crackhead even before she started doing blow......one ugly skank
Hunkola 5 months ago
@guitartec too funny. but true
mullenhead1 4 months ago
I believe it's him... just a home recording
muzapstar 6 months ago
I ain't feelin this, maybe i'd believe it's Eddie if he was like 12 ....
strangher11 6 months ago
@strangher11 he didnt start playing till he was 14
MrMrguitarguy14 6 months ago
@strangher11 Wrong!! 25 years ago my buddy and me had shit to use he would borrow guitars bring them to my house we had no money!!!!. And we took an stereo amp and cranked it and put it throw a speaker .If you try this you get this sound, he had no money as well and in 74 this would be hard to come by I'm sure he got hes amp and guitar not to long after this.There could be lots of reason's why you hear it like this.I also could be wrong about this for the most part but not for the beginning
darksith36 6 months ago
@darksith36 Totally true! My Dad showed me that when I was a kid, Back in the 60's and 70's stereo receivers used to have Mic inputs, you plug your guitar in, crank the mic level all the way up and it sounds just like this, He showed me how to use a reel to reel like this also and use the sound on sound echo.
mojorisen74 4 months ago
@mojorisen74 i can make that sound if i plug my guitar in to the mic input of the mixer of an karaoke machine and then i put the colour cables of it to my stereo's cd input then i press the cd-button and the sound comes from the speakers
blackmask352 4 months ago
@mojorisen74 Your pops sounds like a way cool dude!
gmrios 4 months ago
@mojorisen74 Ha. We used to DREAM of having a dad around, let alone one who was capable of showing us "the ropes" on how to fully utilize our stereo receiver.
rayjr62 2 months ago
This reportedly a practice tape recorded directly in to the tape recorder which explains the insane distortion. The voices at the end are a different recording later after they were famous and on tour, hence Dave losing his hotel key...again! Room 907 apparently! Also hear them hitting on the woman asking if she wants to "slam ham" crazy!
monkface 6 months ago
If this is a fake, it's a good one.
andrewroudny 6 months ago
lol@ people thinkin this is EVH
dutchman063 6 months ago
this is NOT eddie van halen. some douche put this up to see how many people he could con. i play the guitar and i've studied evh. this is NOT him.
jbs0317 6 months ago
what was he 15 years old here? the dude was just pure talent....who else had a command of rhythm and feel like that at age 15
Kozmonot91 7 months ago
@Kozmonot91 he was actually 19, if hes born in 1955
strangebump 5 months ago
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MVPgoalie 5 months ago
where in the heck did this surface from????
bianbian428 7 months ago
Ham slammin' artistry!
demanton 7 months ago
Edward's phraseology is pure genius. Ed will always be The Man.
Eddie invented the drop "D" tuning. Pure Fucking Genius!!
n2motocross 7 months ago
@n2motocross Uh, NO, he didn't. He had some input in the 'D-tuna', the hipshot-ish part that can go on certain Floyds. Check out Led Zeppelin sometime. Drop D, altered tunings, great stuff about 7-10 years before VH broke.
This tone is definitely on account of a crappy pignose amp and a cassette recorder. I'm just guessing, but that's what it sounds like, because I had the same setup back then too.
Doadmusic 7 months ago
@Doadmusic No shit man? Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
n2motocross 7 months ago
@Doadmusic No shit man? Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I had always heard Edward invented it.
n2motocross 7 months ago
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brianmayguitarist 7 months ago
Edward's phraseology is pure genius. Ed will always be The Man.
n2motocross 7 months ago
Is this really him?
Bokajmunar 7 months ago
Eddie stop sucking get a new sound asswipe,something new not anything past you suck
hlhnow 7 months ago
@hlhnow Nice post douchebag. Go back to your Bieber record.
Wilkster5150 7 months ago
Ah... now thats truly the "Brown Sound". EVH still rules.
metalmaniac2010 7 months ago
You lost the key again? That's grrrreat!
van5150fan 7 months ago
Shit when you're a guitarist and you come up with a riff, you grab anything available to record the riff, so you don't forget it later
I used all kinds of stuff to record a riff just so I won't forget it later.
TheAgentAssassin 7 months ago
Pretty crazy to think that a tape lasted this long without decaying into inaudible rubbish. I wonder what kind of archaic dinosaur equipment he recorded this on?
sonicfuker 7 months ago
I use to get a sound like this recording into a Kenwood tape deck and ampliphying through the speakers of my home stereo. The crackling and bad low end reminds me of that...the things you do when you don't have a real amp handy.
aroxon 7 months ago
before the meth..and heroin..and crack
GuitarHickNick 8 months ago
@GuitarHickNick Booze and cocaine. That's it. He never smoked crack or did meth. I have mutual friends of Eddie and I know a lot of crazy shit about him, but with all the money he has, why would he do meth? Coke was his thing from about '80 until his divorce when he realized it was fucking him up too bad. He never did heroin either. Where do you hear this shit?
DarthKazi 8 months ago
@DarthKazi I've heard he was a meth head too, thats why his teeth rotted out.
theShowStopper321 7 months ago
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DarthKazi 7 months ago
0:28 - wtf is that? Is that Atomic Punk!?!?!
TibetCorporation 8 months ago
somebody get me a doctor!
ThEsToVeIsOn 8 months ago
What is this first song he is playing? Is that a song at all? And how he's doing this on 0:17, is that picking after the end of fret and a pinch after that or Van Halen's magic? :D
ChuckBorrisSkate 8 months ago
@ChuckBorrisSkate He's picking above the nut.
lolwtfreak 8 months ago
@lolwtfreak Thanks! and after that goes the pinch harmonic, right?
ChuckBorrisSkate 8 months ago
@ChuckBorrisSkate Yes, I think maybe the 7th fret G string.
lolwtfreak 8 months ago
The riff that starts at 0:56 and ends at 1:06 is like a precursor to Girl Gone Bad.
BigBlueBri 8 months ago
sounds like he had a shitty practice amp back then.
cciemail 8 months ago
Ed's rhythm parts are always so interesting & intricate with emotion! That's why he has SONGS even before adding support of a band. He's no slouch, that's for sure.
Yes jamming on rhythm parts is a great way to start out. That's ALL I used to do as a kid - and some the hooks I wrote were pretty snarky, wish I could find them now!
TubeFreakJonas 8 months ago
@TeesByTruthSurge they did play in the garage out back some.but i don't think he could have cranked up a stack in the house.If this is him & if he recorded it at his house.I've also recorded direct & through amps so i can see what your saying but in 74 it probably is just a bullshit cheep practice amp. As far as playing through real amps by then your right .He was. But i own 6 amps now from a practice amp up to my Marshall & can play all of them from time to time. I'm sure he could do the same.
Guitarshitnstuff 8 months ago
@TeesByTruthSurge Maybe i should'nt have started by saying (ya your totally wrong) sorry. But this does sound like a practice amp from the 70's just like the 10 watt amp i started on. Eddie had played through all kinds of amps up till he got the Marshall & i think its safe to say he may of had a cheep practice amp at his house. I just drove by the house in Pasadena a couple of weeks ago that they lived in with ther parents till the 3rd album & they have nieghbors to close to crank. even though
Guitarshitnstuff 8 months ago
@TeesByTruthSurge You can tell thats how Eddie attacks the strings. It sounds just like the practice amp me & most of my friends started out on. I hate to sound old but kids now have so many advantages. you buy a quallity sounding guitar for $100 or $200 bucks & the same with amps & recording. it was primative back then.As far as what he probably recorded into everybody i knew got one those cheap tape recorders for christmas he probably did too. & how do u explane Eddie & Daves voices at the end
Guitarshitnstuff 8 months ago
i lov how my school there is a band and everyone is like o they r so great i can play the same freaking songs and i tought myself lol!!! to be great at guitar it takes talent not lessons, lol they dont even write their own songs...i do nd havnever taken lessons,,,.....
crazeykids123 9 months ago
This Is So Fucking Cool.
TayzzScottBerr 9 months ago
Does anyone know if Eddie used that very first riff in any of his songs?
StuffedGames 9 months ago
@StuffedGames Sounded like Cabo Wabo.
joe1969812 9 months ago
Iron maiden found this tape before everyone and studied really well
GabrielDhalaman 9 months ago
Back when Dave, Ed, Mike, (and Al) were just buddies.
TheHockeyCentral 9 months ago
TAAAAAAAAAABS! I WANT TAAABS!
ChuckBorrisSkate 9 months ago
this is ed allright the first thing all great guitar players do, is make riff then advance to soloing o noodling in eddies case, coz then you feel more confident and you have all the basics...
casualguitarplayer 9 months ago
2:40 is a badass riff
jacobschween 10 months ago
Come on...this is some hack playing thru a line 6 pod
hicks727 10 months ago
that dude on the right needs to put a fucking shirt on
Drew927 11 months ago
@Drew927
Don't ever travel back in time, you'll get your ass kicked.
MrJoetrix 11 months ago
@MrJoetrix no i would probably i have to kick their ass
Drew927 11 months ago
@Drew927 you made my day dude haha:)
Cgolfsoccerguy 10 months ago
Holy shit!.. Eddie Van Halen, a man before my time!!!
funnyshite83 11 months ago
you can hear thats David Lee Roth talking in that one part...
megajimi 11 months ago
This is just too awesome.
mybalzurchin 11 months ago
LMAO they ALLL looked cracked out thin haha. Look how skinny michael anthony is!!!
JgHaverty 11 months ago
i heard sombody get me a doctor at 3:53
TrevorRules98 1 year ago
At 4:20, is he tuned to drop A? Playing a baritone guitar? Just curious to know how he's getting those ultra low notes.
6672rock 1 year ago
@6672rock hey btw this might be a dumb question but theirs really such a thing called a baritone guitar? or do u mean bass guitar...or do u mean a set up like charlie hunter?
epw330 11 months ago
@epw330 There are baritone guitars. With alot of players tuning down so low (Low E>C) they now sell baritone guitars. I guess it all started with the 7 string models, then evolved from there.
tonyfrombalt 11 months ago
@epw330 dumb question, they've been around for decades...
SuperNoobTroll 11 months ago
@6672rock Octave pedal. I've never heard him using one on the early material. I would think there would have been at least some mention of that. I know he used MXR phase and flange pedals. Some kind of delays too, but I gotta call bullshit on this for no other reason than the use of the octave pedal. I hope I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt this is Ed.
tonyfrombalt 11 months ago
@tonyfrombalt it ain't ed. this guitar is not the raw strat sound and there's no way a guy like ed is going to play ONLY riffs and no licks and straight into a recorder (no amp). Anyone can make a crap recording straight into a recorder (as this is) and add some hiss and boom! you have a rare home recording from WHOEVER! I call bullshit. The voices at the end... added for authenticity. But... Maybe I'm totally wrong.
TruthSurge 10 months ago