Taiwan is Taiwan, China is China, just cuz Taiwan competes as Chinese Taipei, doesnt mean its a part of China...its named Chinese Taipei cuz Chinese government forces Taiwan to use that name or they will attack Taiwan. People in Taiwan have their own cultures and even their own language, why can't people respect that? So many people see Taiwanese people as loser who are "trying" not to be chinese. Go google the history of Taiwan, learn before you judge.
@Aznsnoopypwns You're dumb. China has many languages, people from The Republic of China also speak Mandarin. That's like telling every overseas Chinese who was born somewhere that they are not Chinese either. Your hate against the communist has blinded you, when in reality most people from the island of Taiwan are Han Chinese. Go google the history of Taiwan and you would see that, loser!
@2SiIentD Are you fking retarded? By language im talking about Taiwanese, don't call ppl dumb when you cant even read....And since when did I state that ppl in taiwan arent han chinese? dont make it sound that im giving the wrong info when ur just assuming shit...
@Aznsnoopypwns Mainland China und Taiwan have the same chinese culture, chinese food, chinese language(hakka, Min Nan) chinese Mythology....even the government corrupt in the same way:( why dont you respect the FACT? The real nativeTaiwanese ethnic groups were already vanisched or assimilated by the immigranting Chinese ppl from the mainland,,,
@rafikingkong still doesn't mean Taiwanese should be considered as Chinese in every aspects. Why don't you respect how people from their own country like to be called? we like to call ourselves Taiwanese and nobody should tell us who we should or who we shouldn't be PERIOD.
Saying China and Taiwan are the same country is like saying North Korea and South Korea are the same country. Oh yeah we're the same ethnicity but both believe different things
da hell? what just happened here? singapore is not part of china, and i really hope it stays that way. and yeah we speak chinese as well. by the way, its pretty interesting reading all of the comments here.
To all the ignorant anti-Chinese, pro-Taiwanese people:
from the way I see it, I'd rather you WEREN'T included in PRC.
Some of you are so racist and disrespectful. Just because China supports communism, doesn't mean all Chinese people should endure racism from you.
You speak Chinese, you represent China in the Olympics, have the same values & culture. You're pretty much being ignorant about your own country! So what if you're still counted as Chinese, is that doing you any harm whatsoever?!
@lollipopluvaful Technically the Republic of China (Taiwan) was China before the PRC was even around. Technically the Republic of China (Taiwan) is the the true China. Just because people speak the same language doesn't mean they are the same, maybe similar. The ROC represents itself in the Olympics. Also, they are technically both China, just under different governments. The Chinese people on Taiwan call themselves Taiwanese because that's where they live.
@AznKorn8 lol no, Taiwan was established because of an anti-China Chinese person had a war, lost, so the Chinese gave him a part of Chinese land called (you guessed it) "Taiwan". If Taiwan was the true China, it would be called China. Don't even try to put yourselves as the original China, when Taiwanese people seem soooo damn ashamed to be called one.
@lollipopluvaful It's interesting how much history you don't know. Taiwan was already around under Japanese control. The ROC controlled China and was around long before the PRC, the person wasn't anti-China, he was anti-PRC. The war was between the 2 governments of China, both claiming to be the rightful one. Technically the war was unresolved and is still going on so no one lost. The island itself is called Taiwan but the country is called ROC. CONT. in another comment...
@lollipopluvaful continued.. Many countries recognized the ROC government as the true government over China and the true China. But due to wanting better ties for benefits of their country's, they ceased to recognize the ROC as the rightful government and started recognizing the PRC as the government of the mainland. The PRC said if any country wanted ties with them, they could not recognized Taiwan as a sovereign state. CONTIUED IN ANOTHER COMMENT AGAIN..
@lollipopluvaful The PRC didn't give the ROC the island of Formosa because they lost, because technically the war is still unresolved. The ROC government retreated to Taiwan and made Taipei its temporary capital because the PRC was gaining A LOT of power. The ROC has always meant to take back the mainland but all hopes were gone when the U.S. ceased to recognize them as the government of China and started to recognize the PRC.
@lollipopluvaful The PRC government argues with the ROC if the island is theirs or not because it is unclear. After World War 2 when the Japanese lost control of Taiwan and was returned to "China", it wasn't clear on which government it was given to, so both claimed it. The people who followed the ROC followed them over to the island of Taiwan. People did call the ROC on Taiwan CHINA until they stopped recognizing it.
@lollipopluvaful Technically speaking, the KMT(ROC) was the original government of China long before the PRC. I'm not trying to say that we are the original China, because we technically are. Taiwanese people are not ashamed of being called Chinese because we ethnically are. They just want to say that they are from Taiwan so we say Taiwanese. Also some people would be ashamed to be called Chinese (implying we are from the mainland, not meaning ethnically), cont..
@lollipopluvaful You can feel the difference when you are in China compared to when you're in Taiwan. In Taiwan people are much more welcoming, warmer, nicer, etc. You can feel it in the atmosphere. Most people say that anyways. I'm not saying everyone in Taiwan is, but that's the general feeling you get compared to in China. Also not implying everyone in China is not like that. That's why some people would be ashamed to be called Chinese in the sense of implying that you are from the mainland.
@AznKorn8 look I don't know whether to take that nicely or as an offensive comment so I'm just gonna leave it...you think what you think, I think what I think. :)
@lollipopluvaful It's neutral, just telling you the facts. Hmm.. lets put it this way. People in Taiwan are Chinese like in the mainland, we're all ethnically Chinese. We just call ourselves Taiwanese purely because it is where we grew up and where we are from. Like how Chinese people who grew up in the U.S. call themselves Americans.
@AznKorn8 My family tell me things we wanna hear, that Taiwan was blah blah. Your family (excuse me if you got your info elsewhere) tell you things they wanna hear. History upon this subject is touchy and really unclear because come on, people in the war will not admitt to things and spin tales you know(both Taiwanese and Chinese)?
It's not the history that matter to me, it's really the PEOPLE here on Youtube who offend us Chinese people with their ignorant comments who get on my nerves.
@AznKorn8 WOW. Could've fooled me. Warmer, nicer? Look at all the TAIWANESE twats on the internet acting like they got a chip on their shoulder and writing fucking essays on how superior taiwan is to china. You're so god damn brainwashed you don't even know it.
@what77777 The feeling you get in Taiwan compared to China is that it is warmer and nicer, go to China, it's not that way, not even close. Yeah, we are acting his way because this one topic that ticks a lot of us off and because you are denying us that Taiwan isn't a country. Isn't it pretty ironic talking about chips in our shoulders and being brainwashed, lol. I'm not writing on why Taiwan is superior to China, but when you go to the 2 places you can tell the difference.
@AznKorn8 Really? Maybe you got the cold shoulder because people spotted your gigantic ego when they saw you. Almost half your retarded country voted for conflict and confrontation rather than sensibility. That's how brainwashed you idiots are. I bet if they did a demographic study, it'd have been all young males voting for the DPP lol. A product of your cold war-era education system.
@AznKorn8 And please you indeed don't need to write about why Taiwan is superior to China. We can all see from your attitude and that of the many TAIWANESE on the internet how wonderful, humble and superior you folks really are. Can the rest of the world kiss your feet? LOL. And yes, I have been to both the mainland and Taiwan. I'll tell you right now they lack the sterile, arrogant, big-chip-on-the-shoulder you folks have, which may well be because of the mainland but that's truth.
@what77777 I'm not writing on how superior it is, that is just how it is. Well, technically I'm not even Taiwanese because I am American and this is the one subject most Taiwanese people get an attitude about, it may be in a bad or good way. I'm not putting Taiwan on a pedestal, your just exaggerating everything. " I'll tell you right now they lack the sterile, arrogant, big-chip-on-the-shoulder you folks have" are you talking about people in China because it damn sure sounds like it.
@AznKorn8 Yup. You're American yet the effects of taiwanese brainwashing still lingers. Says it all doesn't it? And you're not writing on how superior it is? That's exactly what you just did. ANd yes, you're the perfect example of all the arrogant, sterile and bitter folks in Taiwan. The mainlanders may be rougher around the edges (spitting, non-queueing) but even then they're definitely more pleasant to be around than you folks because conversations don't revolve around how wonderful taiwan is.
@what77777 Your talking about taiwanese brainwashing .. lol, and communist china isnt? I'm not writing on how superior it is, you're just interpreting it that way because you're stubborn. Arrogant, sterile, and bitter folks in Taiwan? I'm pretty sure they're not, you're more of an example of one. That's what I meant, mainlanders are rougher and all that stuff you said. More pleasant to be around, lol are you kidding me, I have family in the mainland and others there arent that pleasant.
@what77777 You're right, conversations don't revolve around how wonderful Taiwan is, because it doesn't. Maybe you need to stop mis-interpreting my words and twisting them around to make it sound like I'm bagging on the mainland and putting Taiwan above it because I'm not. Just goes to show how stubborn and arrogant you are.
@AznKorn8 but i can see where @what77777 is/was coming from and what they were refering to, as i've noticed that some of the people who've tout being taiwanese seem to have a prejudice and perhaps even racism against china, and chinese - be it directly from within China or born/brought over/and grew up in another country, i.e. asian/chinese american (?...). Again not all but many/some have been/are, just take a look back at some of the content of the comments and what and how they're stated.
@AznKorn8 and we are DEFINITELY not North and South Korea. They can't even be compared with China and Taiwan. China and Taiwan are on neutral terms, they're not at each other's throats.
I am Taiwanese, I dont want to be Chinese! I've never been to China and I dont give a shit ....if chinese people want to get some people to unite , they can ask Singapore people, they speak chinese as well ! But I think that will be like American people ask English people to unite together with them, they each have their own country, that doesnt make sense!
@cheyu65 LOL. Is Singapore the Republic of China? do they compete in international competitions as "Chinese Taipei"? have their own country? Singapore certainly..."Taiwan" the island is not recognized as a country by most of the world. Thanks for failing.
@Filipinos4Islanders It isn't recognized as a country by most of the world politically, you're right. Countries want ties with the PRC because its the next power. But outside of politics people still see it as its own country.
I believe Taiwan is wealthier that the Philippines, is stronger military wise, and also, Taiwan has a higher average IQ than Filipinos. Why is that all the all the workers in Taiwanese factories are Filipinos and Indonesians? Why are most maids world wide Filipino? And why is the Asian po** section overloading with Filipino Whores? Do not judge or else you will be judged.
@metube790 Taiwan has a higher IQ? You must be retarded, IQ is intelligence quotient which is assigned to people when they are born, so on average, Taiwanese and Filipinos would have similar IQ averages. However, some people are and aren't able to harness these because of socio-economic conditions via education. Your bullcrap and mumbo jumbo is only representative that you lack some education.
@khemistryy If the ROC had won...well, I think, in time, after Chiang died, they might have been able to reform China like they did Taiwan, and US-Chinese relations would be strong to this day. I agree that the ROC had corruption, but the current government on the mainland is erratic and, though I am Chinese myself, I have grown very tired of hearing of their many abuses. Sun Yat-sun's dreams of Chinese democracy have been torn to shreds, and Marxism has prevailed...alas for my people.
@Filipinos4Islanders Well Taiwan (Republic of China) isn't recognized as a sovereign nation by a lot of governments anymore. Just so they can have a political relation to China (People's Republic of China). Even if most of the world doesn't recognized Taiwan's sovereignty, the facts show that it is. Taiwan has it's own democratic government that rules over Taiwan. Also the PRC wouldn't need the "One China, Two governments" thing if Taiwan was already part of China.
@Filipinos4Islanders UR A FAIL NOOB BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS TAIWAN IS A COUNTRY. You guyz are so dumb check out western world forums everybody knows taiwan is suppressed by China that is the only reason. AND everybody knows. TAIWAN IS NOT CHINA. If it isn't a country it still doesn't mean its part of China dumbass.
@wei850916 seriosuy, the civil war isn't offically over. No treaty of any sort has been signed. So legally, Taiwan and mainland China are still one country; look at our constitution and you'll see.
@saphira512 damn right! it's like a guy from hong kong saying he's a hongkonger or a girl from shanghai saying she's shanghainese! or a new yorker saying they're a yanky.
Probably Kevjumbas family went to Taiwan after WW2 with the Chinese KMT, unlike the natives in Taiwan, so he is welcomed to say he is Han. But do not say EVERY Taiwanese is Han, do you mean Taiwanese natives? they are not han lol, and Taiwanese, which has been living IN taiwan before the KMT came has been blending with the aborigines, so basically its not just ''han'' anymore
@TheDopenessism Taiwan has a far more Han percentage than even mainland China, even reported by the government. Not all people from the mainland speak Mandarin the same or look the same either, yet all the "Pro-Taiwanese" on here seem to continue to stereotype those from the mainland. It works both ways.
@TheHispanicFilipino Well government now is KMT, which is Chinese, so of course they want everyone in Taiwan to be "Chinese". You said that we have more percentage than han?!!?! what a big joke, most of the Taiwanese, have been mixed with the locals a long time ago, and therefore creating "Taiwanese''. If next year DPP win the election then the truth will be revealed. Unfortunately there is a lot of "pro-Chinese" people commenting here.
@TheDopenessism Actually it's not a big joke, the joke is the huge LIE that you're trying to pass as fact. DO YOU HAVE THE DNA RESULTS of people from Taiwan to prove that MOST, as you say have been mixed with locals? oh wait what was that? No you don't, that's what I thought. I will go by the actual data and stats that "Taiwan" already provides, which is 98% Han and you're a dumbass plenty of people Han Chinese people from "Taiwan" call themselves Taiwan simply because they are from there.
@TheDopenessism and if u want to dispute it, go cry to the World Fact book and the "Taiwanese" gov website. But obviously you have no affiliation with Taiwanese officials besides a stupid person who is trying to preach facts that he's taken out of his ass!!!!
@TheDopenessism But Han is not a concept based on genetic purity. Having aboriginal blood does not make one non-Han. If you have learnt Chinese history, you will know that there were assimilation policies, which turned non-Han into Han. Genetic purity is not a criterion to determine ethnicity.
-_- even though i would love to have people stop grouping the mainlanders and taiwanese and cantonese together and just calling us CHINESE but we all know that's never gonna happen even the younger american asians do it know because that's what we hear we can't help the habit of calling ourselves chinese instead of taiwanese
OMG,I'm a bit confused about this video.Both Kevin and I just learnt a new word "taiwanese" from that weird guy in the video though I firmly believe Kevin has probably already forgotten this uncommon word . If I remember correctly, Kevin has clarified he's Chinese in LYAZ video and another video about food culture several years ago in his Kevjumba youtuaccount. BTW, what's the hell meaning of this awkward-sounding word? Actually I never heard of it. It's really not easy to remember to be honest.
lol, looks like Kev just learned a new word: Taiwanese. And look at these racism comments, come on you people, aren't you just like almost the same genetically? Aren't you sharing similar culture and values? So you have different political views, China is red commies state, Taiwan is free blablabla, that means you should hate the people from the other side?? It's just ridiculous.
@SharkmanJW it's kinda like saying south america and north america are one..... like in france they just say the americaS in general o_O and yea it's ridiiculous ...
@SharkmanJW Yeah, I agree. I am from mainland China and I HIGHLY dislike how China became communist. I mean no disrespect to people from Taiwan when I say this, but I also dislike how some people from Taiwan say they aren't Chinese. It's like saying, "Oh, I'm not Chinese but I speak Chinese, I read Chinese, I write Chinese, the name of my country is actually the Republic of China, and I'm genetically Han Chinese with Chinese ancestry."
@xaznboixd Although I get where you're coming from, that logic doesn't really work. Do Americans, Australians & Canadians get told they're not actually their own people because they speak english, read english, write english and are genetically & ancestrally english? Yes, Taiwan needs to acknowledge its roots, that they originated from China, but that doesn't mean they can't be their own people, & when they say they're not 'chinese', its just a way of distinguishing themselves from China.
@Ryoko48 I get what you're saying too but there's something else. People from America, Australia, and Canada speak English, yes. But they aren't primarily made up of one ethnicity. There are Blacks, White, Latinos/Latinas, Asians, etc. With that being said, someone may call themselves an "Asian American" because they are of Asian ethnicity, and are citizens of the US. So would it make sense that someone is both Chinese and Taiwanese?
@xaznboixd Well all those people in America just came over from other countries. It would make sense that someone is both Chinese and Taiwanese. People in Taiwan are ethnically Chinese, but they call themselves Taiwanese when it comes to nationality. Same with America, the majority of people are Caucasian and from England, Germany, Russia, etc. but they're American why aren't they just called whatever country they are from. They are German and American, or whatever ethnicity they are.
@AznKorn8 I'm glad that you agree on the part that people from Taiwan can be both Taiwanese and Chinese. But I honestly don't know why Caucasians are "American" and not "German American" etc. I think they're whatever ethnicity they are and American.
@Ryoko48 The generations after the people that immigrated to the U.S. grew up in the U.S. So they call themselves Americans. Generations of people after the ones that moved to Taiwan grew up in Taiwan so they call themselves Taiwanese. Both sides have similarities but grow up in different ways and environments.
@xaznboixd Our nationality isn't Chinese but we are ethnically, that's why we say it. Would it be the same for America, Canada, and Australia. "Oh, I'm not English but I speak English, I read English, I write English, the name of my country is United States of America, and I'm genetically English with English ancestry." The 2 are different countries, just like the US and England. There are similarities but there is also differences that make us who we are.
Taiwanese people are mostly Han Chinese by heritage, myself being one. It's just stupid how many Americans group mainlanders with Taiwanese people though. Not the same. Taiwanese people have WAY better manners than mainlanders, plus wayyyy hotter girls.
A lot of "anti-Chinese" people, especially Taiwanese, try too hard to separate themselves from the mainland. LOL @ different accents! Do you guys realize that there are many ethnic groups and provinces in China? Not everyone speaks Mandarin the same, just like any other country. What's next? Should Cantonese people continue to fight and someone like Jackie Chan should announce that he is no longer Chinese? or how about Jin the MC? Oh wait, Kevjumba has also said he's Chinese in his Iyaz video.
You realize they have their own democratic system and don't pay taxes to the mainland. And mainlanders need a visa to visit Taiwan. Last time I checked (wait, I don't even need to check, just common sense) I didn't need a visa to cross from Ontario to Quebec. I don't think the Taiwanese are trying too hard to separate. They already ARE separate.
@chiahandidi u do realize Hong Kong for the longest time was separate too? but do you hear people like Jackie Chan claiming he is not Chinese? Noooooooooooo. Last time I checked (wait, oh I don't need to check, just common sense) just because North Korea and South Korea are two different nations politically...doesn't mean they are not KOREANS. Overseas Viets don't agree with Vietnamese communists, but they are all still Vietnamese. Common sense.
@KoreansDoItBest Why do you guys keep referring to Jackie Chan like he represents HK? But anyway....HK before the British rule was a part of China, and now that it's under China's rule again. That's why "Jackie Chan" doesn't deny he's Chinese. Simple logic. Sorry you couldn't comprehend.
Haha how clever, quoting me to make you sound witty! And the sarcasm award goes to...me.
@chiahandidi Obviously you have no common sense. And where do you think the majority of people from Taiwan heritage came from? China. Sorry you couldn't comprehend. Same reason why Kevjumba and Jeremy Lin don't deny that they're Chinese either.
@chiahandidi You clearly missed his point. Even if Taiwan was considered a separate country of its own, the majority of people are of Chinese heritage. Chinese can refer to both a NATIONALITY and ETHNICITY. Just because you're ashamed of saying you're Chinese, it doesn't mean other people are like that INCLUDING Kevjumba.
@PhoKinhYue Chill out. They are just saying they are Han ppl from Taiwan & not from China. They are not saying diff. accents = diff. country. It was just a difference btw the 2 countries. People in England, Canada, USA all speak English (some in different accents) but they are separate countries. The fact is Taiwan IS a separate country w/ its own government SEPARATE from China. In fact, since PRC's establishment, it never controlled any of the territories ROC's government currently governs.
Actually the majority of the world doesn't even consider Taiwan as it's own "country" and the country itself isn't known as "Taiwan", Taiwan is just the island. It is governed by the "Republic of China". There is communist China PRC, and there's the non-communist ROC. They are all still Chinese. Just because North vs South are two different countries does not make them non-Koreans.
@WhiteGuysAsianGirls Please read all my comments before you use the same arguments that I just responded to. "Taiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both TW&China, ppl refer to themselves as Hua Ren meaning Chinese/Han ppl. It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are Hua Ren from TW, they are NOT saying that they are not from HAN ppl. Since they Han ppl are born in TW, they would naturally say their nat. is Taiwanese, just like an ABC would say their nat. is American"
As you can see, I did not say they were not Chinese. Most Taiwanese are NOT ignorant like the user "TaiwaneseNOTChinese" & claim that they are not Hua Ren aka from Han ppl. Most Taiwanese ppl (TW citizens) KNOW that their (great) grand parents (etc) did migrate from mainland China. Some ppl like the user "TWNOTChinese" prob. strongly believe they are not Chinese from China bc A) they are TW Aboriginals. B) China's bad reputation/bad manner stereotype. C)Bad things China gov. did to TW in history
@WhiteGuysAsianGirls People say they are Taiwanese because that is where they are from. They were born and raised there, that's why they refer to themselves as Taiwanese.
@PhoKinhYue Taiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both Taiwan & China, ppl refer to themselves as "hua ren" which means "Chinese/Han ppl". It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are "hua ren" from Taiwan, they are NOT saying that they are not from the HAN ppl. So since they Han ppl are born in Taiwan, they would naturally say their nationality is Taiwanese, just like a person who has “Asian” parents but is born in the US would say their nationality is American.
It's funny, "Taiwanese" people can't even make up their minds. Taiwan is only the island, the actual territory or state is referred to as "Republic of China". Just because you don't agree with China politically, doesn't mean you aren't Chinese. That's like me saying people from "North Korea" are not Koreans and I should call myself "Seoulrean". Both Kevin and Jeremy Lin, whose parents are from "Taiwan" have also said that they're Chinese.
@KoreansDoItBest I'm actually not too sure what you're trying to say to be honest. But Taiwan is not a territory or state. Sure, it's Republic of China, another way to call it: Taiwan, and it's different from PRC. So yes, they can call themselves Taiwanese. And Taiwanese people will call themselves Taiwanese because they're politically, socially, and geographically different. People from North Korea are North Koreans. You're South Korean. Are you different? Yes. Is PRC and ROC different? Yes.
@chiahandidi When did I say the Republic of China is the same PRC? See that's what you keep assuming when someone says CHINESE. That is you're mistake. When someone says they're Chinese, it doesn't only mean that they're from the PRC. Someone from Australia, Canada, USA, can all say they are also Chinese through their heritage or THEIR ETHNICITY. We are different POLITICALLY, not RACIALLY. WE ARE STILL KOREANS. You obvioulsy have a bias agenda.
@KoreansDoItBest Have you lived in China or Taiwan? You realize then that they were ethnically different. Just because they have a common language and ancestry doesn't mean they have the same social lifestyles, religion, or culture. So when someone says Chinese, it refers politically and ethnically to China or PRC. No, I made no mistake, but thanks for trying.
@chiahandidi LMAO. You obviously haven't lived in China or Taiwan either. The two major ETHNIC GROUPS in China and Taiwan are Han Chinese.
CHINA has even more ethnic groups than Taiwan. So when someone says CHINESE, it doesn't only refer to CHina or PRC. Yes you made a mistake and thanks for failing.
@KoreansDoItBest I love how you know my history. It's like we've been bffs forever! Yeah I failed my attempt to teach an idiot something. Sorry I tried.
@chiahandidi nope, I know you're just mad. You don't speak for Taiwanese. Please shut the fuck up, do I really need to type that out for you in Traditional Chinese as well? lol
@chiahandidi no you just failed to understand and you backed that up with your initial comment. It's ok, I know it's difficult for slow people like you to understand.
@chiahandidi haha obviously a person like you who already said he doesn't understand wouldn't understand to begin with. That's why you removed your comment because you just don't understand!
@KoreansDoItBest yeah I didn't understand you lol. I removed it because my comment was posted twice. Doing you a favor because I thought it would confuse those with low IQ
@chiahandidi Just because people in China have a common language and ancestry doesn't mean they have the same social lifestyles, religion, or culture either. I've taught English in both "Taiwan" and the mainland. Before you go on your Chinese government rant, check yourself.
@chiahandidi The ignorance is with you since you're contradicting yourself by generalizing White people. Clearly, you have no clue what you're talking about because you don't apply your own logic to what you're trying to preach.
@chiahandidi small dicks, slanted eyes, pan face, can't drive, bad breathe, slanted pussies, dog eaters. All the same. It's true. Check the facts! hahahaha
@chiahandidi oh ya and last time I checked, the majority of the world doesn't even think of "Taiwan" as a nation.
Taiwan = Republic of China aka CHINESE Taipei. They are still Chinese. Use common sense and realize that just because someone says that they're Chinese it doesn't mean they are communist. Kevjumba has even said he was "Chinese" as well, go watch his Iyaz video. Common sense.
@KoreansDoItBest And where did you check? I'd love to see the data! But if it's just according to your pea-sized brain, forget it haha. You make Kevjumba sound like he's your god; whatever he says is truth. Sad.
@chiahandidi " I'm actually not too sure what you're trying to say to be honest. "
That's obviously your problem right there. It's quite clear what he's trying to say. He means EVEN THOUGH North Korea and South Korea are two different nations and both have two different political systems, that doesn't CHANGE the fact that they're both still KOREANS.
It's quite obvious that you have no common sense .
@chiahandidi No, you don't understand. I have family from Taiwan and they actually refer to themselves as Chinese from Taiwan. Not everyone from there denies that they're Chinese. Just like I know people who are Chinese from Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, Canada (Peter Chao), Kevjumba, etc. That's the point. All those people live in different countries with different governments but they're all still Chinese.
aiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both Taiwan & China, ppl refer to themselves as "hua ren" which means "Chinese/Han ppl". It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are "hua ren" from Taiwan, they are NOT saying that they are not from the HAN ppl. So since they Han ppl are born in Taiwan, they would naturally say their nationality is Taiwanese, just like a person who has “Asian” parents but is born in the US would say their nationality is American.
Taiwan makes up 99% of ROC that is why ppl refer to it as ROC. Both KevJumba & Jeremy Lin have said they're Chinese AND Taiwanese. Yes you can be both Chinese & Taiwanese. They're all from HAN ppl it's just different & SEPARATE countries. And don't judge ALL Taiwanese ppl just bc of the comments of 1 Taiwanese person geez. Not all Taiwanese ppl get offended if you call them Chinese, they just mean they're not from China, they're from Taiwan. Learn your history before you start stereotyping.
@Dorkwhenlearning Yes, I have been to China many times. Have you? Things change everytime I go there. You sound like a member of the KKK. Are you saying that Chinese people are incapable of civility, ettiquette, education, and morals? If you really are Chinese, then you have issues.
@proudemogrl ironic that even "Taiwan" tries to keep Traditional Chinese writing, yet these Green party extremists can't realize the fact that politics doesn't change someone's heritage.
I have been to China and I'm Taiwanese. I know we have a lot of diferrent. Now Taiwan is a sovereign nation but China always think Taiwan is a part of China(PRC)! They never admitted Taiwan(ROC) is not a part of them.
ok for you arrogant people. officially there is 1 china, technically there is 2. prc (aka mainland, aka china), roc (taiwan, taipei). roc ruled all of china until 1949, the lost war moved to one of islands of china, TAIWAN. They can't call themselves chinese cause of the UN acknowledged only 1 China. Most "Taiwanese" are immigrants from mainland.
Taiwan is officially called Republic of China. Taiwan is the name of the island not the nation. So yes he is Taiwanese, but also he is Chinese.
Haha can't believe how some people can mix stuffs up, funny. My country is a multi-racial society but predominantly Chinese, thank god I'm a Chinese not born in Chinese. Some of the china people rly have no etiquette and I agree that their govt system is fucked up. And sadly, more and more china people are coming over to my country, I feel so scared now hahaha
@TheDopenessism Taiwan doesn't equal the acknowledged UN China. But Taiwan is part of China in geography and culture terms not the government or communism stuff. As Taiwan is still in battle with Beijing of who is the real government or party leader of the greater China. Ever since the lost the war in 1949 of controlling the mainland of china, they were forced to the island of Taiwan.
officially 1 China, technically 2. Taiwan regards itself as the owner of all of China.
@myfunkychannel In terms of national identity, Taiwan is a divided political entity. As to the legal status of Taiwan and the Penghu Islands, some people claim Taiwan "a part of China," some assert that Taiwan belongs to the Taiwanese people,Therefore, some people favor the so-called "unification" with China. Most favor independence, The proposition you stated in your last comment is true, but ONLY for the KMT and it's followers, not for all the Taiwanese people.
@KoreansGOGAY4JayPark True, some say Taiwan is identical to the Republic of China. But, some don't because they believe the ROC government is just a government-in-exile and an alien regime. The U.S. government holds the position that neither Taiwan nor the Republic of China enjoys the status of state. Under the Taiwan Relations Act, Taiwan is treated as a quasi-state, a self-govering political entity, and a protectorate of the United States. You cannot judge Taiwan and China as Korea.
@TheDopenessism says the guy who came back lol and the U.S. also protects South Korea, and he just did judge Korea with Taiwan and China. Keep crying.
ha, it's funny cuz from the vids i thought he was chinese, and so it turns out i'm right. (yes i knw he's from taiwan, and i know taiwan is separated from china, but he is of chinese race).
yup i agree taiwanese are better than chinese =) nuff said haha
MechPhantom 3 days ago
i hope to hear he speak mandarin~
nicolecassiopeia 6 days ago
im pretty sure he doesnt give a fuck about DPP or some other political bullshit
Vampiric59 1 month ago
Taiwan is Taiwan, China is China, just cuz Taiwan competes as Chinese Taipei, doesnt mean its a part of China...its named Chinese Taipei cuz Chinese government forces Taiwan to use that name or they will attack Taiwan. People in Taiwan have their own cultures and even their own language, why can't people respect that? So many people see Taiwanese people as loser who are "trying" not to be chinese. Go google the history of Taiwan, learn before you judge.
Aznsnoopypwns 1 month ago
@Aznsnoopypwns You're dumb. China has many languages, people from The Republic of China also speak Mandarin. That's like telling every overseas Chinese who was born somewhere that they are not Chinese either. Your hate against the communist has blinded you, when in reality most people from the island of Taiwan are Han Chinese. Go google the history of Taiwan and you would see that, loser!
2SiIentD 1 month ago
@2SiIentD Are you fking retarded? By language im talking about Taiwanese, don't call ppl dumb when you cant even read....And since when did I state that ppl in taiwan arent han chinese? dont make it sound that im giving the wrong info when ur just assuming shit...
Aznsnoopypwns 1 month ago
@Aznsnoopypwns Mainland China und Taiwan have the same chinese culture, chinese food, chinese language(hakka, Min Nan) chinese Mythology....even the government corrupt in the same way:( why dont you respect the FACT? The real nativeTaiwanese ethnic groups were already vanisched or assimilated by the immigranting Chinese ppl from the mainland,,,
rafikingkong 3 weeks ago
@rafikingkong still doesn't mean Taiwanese should be considered as Chinese in every aspects. Why don't you respect how people from their own country like to be called? we like to call ourselves Taiwanese and nobody should tell us who we should or who we shouldn't be PERIOD.
redscar1385 3 weeks ago 3
@rafikingkong
Tibetan, Mongolian, Uyghur....... Chinese?
bctvanw 2 weeks ago
fukk this
jennettefan41 2 months ago
ok so forget all the blah blah blahs
i'm taiwanese and i love taiwan:)
518Jasmine 2 months ago
Saying China and Taiwan are the same country is like saying North Korea and South Korea are the same country. Oh yeah we're the same ethnicity but both believe different things
AznKorn8 3 months ago
da hell? what just happened here? singapore is not part of china, and i really hope it stays that way. and yeah we speak chinese as well. by the way, its pretty interesting reading all of the comments here.
ilovekevinwu 3 months ago
To all the ignorant anti-Chinese, pro-Taiwanese people:
from the way I see it, I'd rather you WEREN'T included in PRC.
Some of you are so racist and disrespectful. Just because China supports communism, doesn't mean all Chinese people should endure racism from you.
You speak Chinese, you represent China in the Olympics, have the same values & culture. You're pretty much being ignorant about your own country! So what if you're still counted as Chinese, is that doing you any harm whatsoever?!
lollipopluvaful 3 months ago 2
@lollipopluvaful Technically the Republic of China (Taiwan) was China before the PRC was even around. Technically the Republic of China (Taiwan) is the the true China. Just because people speak the same language doesn't mean they are the same, maybe similar. The ROC represents itself in the Olympics. Also, they are technically both China, just under different governments. The Chinese people on Taiwan call themselves Taiwanese because that's where they live.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@AznKorn8 lol no, Taiwan was established because of an anti-China Chinese person had a war, lost, so the Chinese gave him a part of Chinese land called (you guessed it) "Taiwan". If Taiwan was the true China, it would be called China. Don't even try to put yourselves as the original China, when Taiwanese people seem soooo damn ashamed to be called one.
lollipopluvaful 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful It's interesting how much history you don't know. Taiwan was already around under Japanese control. The ROC controlled China and was around long before the PRC, the person wasn't anti-China, he was anti-PRC. The war was between the 2 governments of China, both claiming to be the rightful one. Technically the war was unresolved and is still going on so no one lost. The island itself is called Taiwan but the country is called ROC. CONT. in another comment...
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful continued.. Many countries recognized the ROC government as the true government over China and the true China. But due to wanting better ties for benefits of their country's, they ceased to recognize the ROC as the rightful government and started recognizing the PRC as the government of the mainland. The PRC said if any country wanted ties with them, they could not recognized Taiwan as a sovereign state. CONTIUED IN ANOTHER COMMENT AGAIN..
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful The PRC didn't give the ROC the island of Formosa because they lost, because technically the war is still unresolved. The ROC government retreated to Taiwan and made Taipei its temporary capital because the PRC was gaining A LOT of power. The ROC has always meant to take back the mainland but all hopes were gone when the U.S. ceased to recognize them as the government of China and started to recognize the PRC.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful The PRC government argues with the ROC if the island is theirs or not because it is unclear. After World War 2 when the Japanese lost control of Taiwan and was returned to "China", it wasn't clear on which government it was given to, so both claimed it. The people who followed the ROC followed them over to the island of Taiwan. People did call the ROC on Taiwan CHINA until they stopped recognizing it.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful Technically speaking, the KMT(ROC) was the original government of China long before the PRC. I'm not trying to say that we are the original China, because we technically are. Taiwanese people are not ashamed of being called Chinese because we ethnically are. They just want to say that they are from Taiwan so we say Taiwanese. Also some people would be ashamed to be called Chinese (implying we are from the mainland, not meaning ethnically), cont..
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful You can feel the difference when you are in China compared to when you're in Taiwan. In Taiwan people are much more welcoming, warmer, nicer, etc. You can feel it in the atmosphere. Most people say that anyways. I'm not saying everyone in Taiwan is, but that's the general feeling you get compared to in China. Also not implying everyone in China is not like that. That's why some people would be ashamed to be called Chinese in the sense of implying that you are from the mainland.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@AznKorn8 look I don't know whether to take that nicely or as an offensive comment so I'm just gonna leave it...you think what you think, I think what I think. :)
lollipopluvaful 3 months ago
@lollipopluvaful It's neutral, just telling you the facts. Hmm.. lets put it this way. People in Taiwan are Chinese like in the mainland, we're all ethnically Chinese. We just call ourselves Taiwanese purely because it is where we grew up and where we are from. Like how Chinese people who grew up in the U.S. call themselves Americans.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@AznKorn8 My family tell me things we wanna hear, that Taiwan was blah blah. Your family (excuse me if you got your info elsewhere) tell you things they wanna hear. History upon this subject is touchy and really unclear because come on, people in the war will not admitt to things and spin tales you know(both Taiwanese and Chinese)?
It's not the history that matter to me, it's really the PEOPLE here on Youtube who offend us Chinese people with their ignorant comments who get on my nerves.
lollipopluvaful 3 months ago 3
@AznKorn8 WOW. Could've fooled me. Warmer, nicer? Look at all the TAIWANESE twats on the internet acting like they got a chip on their shoulder and writing fucking essays on how superior taiwan is to china. You're so god damn brainwashed you don't even know it.
what77777 1 month ago
@what77777 The feeling you get in Taiwan compared to China is that it is warmer and nicer, go to China, it's not that way, not even close. Yeah, we are acting his way because this one topic that ticks a lot of us off and because you are denying us that Taiwan isn't a country. Isn't it pretty ironic talking about chips in our shoulders and being brainwashed, lol. I'm not writing on why Taiwan is superior to China, but when you go to the 2 places you can tell the difference.
AznKorn8 1 month ago
@AznKorn8 Really? Maybe you got the cold shoulder because people spotted your gigantic ego when they saw you. Almost half your retarded country voted for conflict and confrontation rather than sensibility. That's how brainwashed you idiots are. I bet if they did a demographic study, it'd have been all young males voting for the DPP lol. A product of your cold war-era education system.
what77777 1 month ago
@AznKorn8 And please you indeed don't need to write about why Taiwan is superior to China. We can all see from your attitude and that of the many TAIWANESE on the internet how wonderful, humble and superior you folks really are. Can the rest of the world kiss your feet? LOL. And yes, I have been to both the mainland and Taiwan. I'll tell you right now they lack the sterile, arrogant, big-chip-on-the-shoulder you folks have, which may well be because of the mainland but that's truth.
what77777 1 month ago
@what77777 I'm not writing on how superior it is, that is just how it is. Well, technically I'm not even Taiwanese because I am American and this is the one subject most Taiwanese people get an attitude about, it may be in a bad or good way. I'm not putting Taiwan on a pedestal, your just exaggerating everything. " I'll tell you right now they lack the sterile, arrogant, big-chip-on-the-shoulder you folks have" are you talking about people in China because it damn sure sounds like it.
AznKorn8 1 month ago
@AznKorn8 Yup. You're American yet the effects of taiwanese brainwashing still lingers. Says it all doesn't it? And you're not writing on how superior it is? That's exactly what you just did. ANd yes, you're the perfect example of all the arrogant, sterile and bitter folks in Taiwan. The mainlanders may be rougher around the edges (spitting, non-queueing) but even then they're definitely more pleasant to be around than you folks because conversations don't revolve around how wonderful taiwan is.
what77777 1 month ago
@what77777 Your talking about taiwanese brainwashing .. lol, and communist china isnt? I'm not writing on how superior it is, you're just interpreting it that way because you're stubborn. Arrogant, sterile, and bitter folks in Taiwan? I'm pretty sure they're not, you're more of an example of one. That's what I meant, mainlanders are rougher and all that stuff you said. More pleasant to be around, lol are you kidding me, I have family in the mainland and others there arent that pleasant.
AznKorn8 1 month ago
@what77777 You're right, conversations don't revolve around how wonderful Taiwan is, because it doesn't. Maybe you need to stop mis-interpreting my words and twisting them around to make it sound like I'm bagging on the mainland and putting Taiwan above it because I'm not. Just goes to show how stubborn and arrogant you are.
AznKorn8 1 month ago
@AznKorn8 but i can see where @what77777 is/was coming from and what they were refering to, as i've noticed that some of the people who've tout being taiwanese seem to have a prejudice and perhaps even racism against china, and chinese - be it directly from within China or born/brought over/and grew up in another country, i.e. asian/chinese american (?...). Again not all but many/some have been/are, just take a look back at some of the content of the comments and what and how they're stated.
trdbkd11 2 weeks ago
@what77777 Nicely said. I TOTALLY agree with you.
alfredyu 1 week ago
@AznKorn8 and we are DEFINITELY not North and South Korea. They can't even be compared with China and Taiwan. China and Taiwan are on neutral terms, they're not at each other's throats.
lollipopluvaful 3 months ago 6
When he said he's "Chinese", he actually meant 華人.
milvipes 4 months ago
seems like lots of people hate my country...
poppoppop802 4 months ago
@cheyu65
Lol dude... That's so wrong please. I'm Singaporean so yeah. No way will we allow some shit like that from happening!
apprehensive 4 months ago
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cheyu65 4 months ago
I am Taiwanese, I dont want to be Chinese! I've never been to China and I dont give a shit ....if chinese people want to get some people to unite , they can ask Singapore people, they speak chinese as well ! But I think that will be like American people ask English people to unite together with them, they each have their own country, that doesnt make sense!
cheyu65 4 months ago
@cheyu65 LOL. Is Singapore the Republic of China? do they compete in international competitions as "Chinese Taipei"? have their own country? Singapore certainly..."Taiwan" the island is not recognized as a country by most of the world. Thanks for failing.
Filipinos4Islanders 4 months ago 9
@Filipinos4Islanders It isn't recognized as a country by most of the world politically, you're right. Countries want ties with the PRC because its the next power. But outside of politics people still see it as its own country.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@Filipinos4Islanders
you're Filipino...
I believe Taiwan is wealthier that the Philippines, is stronger military wise, and also, Taiwan has a higher average IQ than Filipinos. Why is that all the all the workers in Taiwanese factories are Filipinos and Indonesians? Why are most maids world wide Filipino? And why is the Asian po** section overloading with Filipino Whores? Do not judge or else you will be judged.
metube790 3 months ago
@metube790 Taiwan has a higher IQ? You must be retarded, IQ is intelligence quotient which is assigned to people when they are born, so on average, Taiwanese and Filipinos would have similar IQ averages. However, some people are and aren't able to harness these because of socio-economic conditions via education. Your bullcrap and mumbo jumbo is only representative that you lack some education.
khemistryy 3 months ago
@khemistryy If the ROC had won...well, I think, in time, after Chiang died, they might have been able to reform China like they did Taiwan, and US-Chinese relations would be strong to this day. I agree that the ROC had corruption, but the current government on the mainland is erratic and, though I am Chinese myself, I have grown very tired of hearing of their many abuses. Sun Yat-sun's dreams of Chinese democracy have been torn to shreds, and Marxism has prevailed...alas for my people.
Falamu445 2 months ago
@Filipinos4Islanders Well Taiwan (Republic of China) isn't recognized as a sovereign nation by a lot of governments anymore. Just so they can have a political relation to China (People's Republic of China). Even if most of the world doesn't recognized Taiwan's sovereignty, the facts show that it is. Taiwan has it's own democratic government that rules over Taiwan. Also the PRC wouldn't need the "One China, Two governments" thing if Taiwan was already part of China.
AznKorn8 1 month ago
@Filipinos4Islanders UR A FAIL NOOB BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS TAIWAN IS A COUNTRY. You guyz are so dumb check out western world forums everybody knows taiwan is suppressed by China that is the only reason. AND everybody knows. TAIWAN IS NOT CHINA. If it isn't a country it still doesn't mean its part of China dumbass.
knightsfly5 1 month ago
@knightsfly5 CHINESE TAIPEI. REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
U MAD! U MAD!
2SiIentD 1 month ago
@Filipinos4Islanders lol so we need a pinoy to lecture us now? what a laugh.. ain't you suppose to be cleaning your Taiwanese master's toilet?
redscar1385 3 weeks ago
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annie987321 1 week ago
Seriously guys, Taiwan n China r two completely different countries!!
wei850916 4 months ago
@wei850916 your comment really shows your ignorance.
OwlsFromNEWTS 4 months ago
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@wei850916 seriosuy, the civil war isn't offically over. No treaty of any sort has been signed. So legally, Taiwan and mainland China are still one country; look at our constitution and you'll see.
TheAntiMoronTW 4 months ago
Taiwanese because we're not communists
rocknroy1990 4 months ago
racially, he is Chinese. politically, he is american.
coulddieforpho 5 months ago
OHH YEESS HES TAIWANESE AND IM TOO
ChennyMe 5 months ago 6
@ChennyMe me toooo xDDD im so proud
Amymilee8 1 month ago
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okay seriously people. Taiwanese is UNDER the term of Chinese.
We say we're Taiwanese because we are PROUD OF WHO WE ARE.
we are PROUD TO BE TAIWANESE.
I don't neglect the fact that i'm chinese. so can everyone just stop bitching?!
saphira512 5 months ago 11
@saphira512 damn right! it's like a guy from hong kong saying he's a hongkonger or a girl from shanghai saying she's shanghainese! or a new yorker saying they're a yanky.
42cosmonauts 5 months ago
@42cosmonauts
Watch the video "Write in Taiwanese" on the 2010 U.S. Census. One of the girls in the video claims to be "Half Taiwanese/Half Cantonese" =)
BoriquenBeast 5 months ago
Probably Kevjumbas family went to Taiwan after WW2 with the Chinese KMT, unlike the natives in Taiwan, so he is welcomed to say he is Han. But do not say EVERY Taiwanese is Han, do you mean Taiwanese natives? they are not han lol, and Taiwanese, which has been living IN taiwan before the KMT came has been blending with the aborigines, so basically its not just ''han'' anymore
TheDopenessism 5 months ago
@TheDopenessism Taiwan has a far more Han percentage than even mainland China, even reported by the government. Not all people from the mainland speak Mandarin the same or look the same either, yet all the "Pro-Taiwanese" on here seem to continue to stereotype those from the mainland. It works both ways.
TheHispanicFilipino 5 months ago
@TheHispanicFilipino Well government now is KMT, which is Chinese, so of course they want everyone in Taiwan to be "Chinese". You said that we have more percentage than han?!!?! what a big joke, most of the Taiwanese, have been mixed with the locals a long time ago, and therefore creating "Taiwanese''. If next year DPP win the election then the truth will be revealed. Unfortunately there is a lot of "pro-Chinese" people commenting here.
TheDopenessism 5 months ago
@TheDopenessism Actually it's not a big joke, the joke is the huge LIE that you're trying to pass as fact. DO YOU HAVE THE DNA RESULTS of people from Taiwan to prove that MOST, as you say have been mixed with locals? oh wait what was that? No you don't, that's what I thought. I will go by the actual data and stats that "Taiwan" already provides, which is 98% Han and you're a dumbass plenty of people Han Chinese people from "Taiwan" call themselves Taiwan simply because they are from there.
ImSoPinoyPride 5 months ago
@TheDopenessism and if u want to dispute it, go cry to the World Fact book and the "Taiwanese" gov website. But obviously you have no affiliation with Taiwanese officials besides a stupid person who is trying to preach facts that he's taken out of his ass!!!!
ImSoPinoyPride 5 months ago
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@TheDopenessism But Han is not a concept based on genetic purity. Having aboriginal blood does not make one non-Han. If you have learnt Chinese history, you will know that there were assimilation policies, which turned non-Han into Han. Genetic purity is not a criterion to determine ethnicity.
TheAntiMoronTW 4 months ago
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TheDopenessism 5 months ago
-_- even though i would love to have people stop grouping the mainlanders and taiwanese and cantonese together and just calling us CHINESE but we all know that's never gonna happen even the younger american asians do it know because that's what we hear we can't help the habit of calling ourselves chinese instead of taiwanese
firesushi200 5 months ago
OMG,I'm a bit confused about this video.Both Kevin and I just learnt a new word "taiwanese" from that weird guy in the video though I firmly believe Kevin has probably already forgotten this uncommon word . If I remember correctly, Kevin has clarified he's Chinese in LYAZ video and another video about food culture several years ago in his Kevjumba youtuaccount. BTW, what's the hell meaning of this awkward-sounding word? Actually I never heard of it. It's really not easy to remember to be honest.
davidrossable 5 months ago
我想吸的KevJumba公鸡！
TheonHafet300 5 months ago
I'm Vietnamese-Hongkonger
MsThelegendofZelda 5 months ago
@yukicrossist
YukiCrossist 5 months ago
lol, looks like Kev just learned a new word: Taiwanese. And look at these racism comments, come on you people, aren't you just like almost the same genetically? Aren't you sharing similar culture and values? So you have different political views, China is red commies state, Taiwan is free blablabla, that means you should hate the people from the other side?? It's just ridiculous.
SharkmanJW 5 months ago 22
@SharkmanJW it's kinda like saying south america and north america are one..... like in france they just say the americaS in general o_O and yea it's ridiiculous ...
firesushi200 5 months ago
@SharkmanJW Yeah, I agree. I am from mainland China and I HIGHLY dislike how China became communist. I mean no disrespect to people from Taiwan when I say this, but I also dislike how some people from Taiwan say they aren't Chinese. It's like saying, "Oh, I'm not Chinese but I speak Chinese, I read Chinese, I write Chinese, the name of my country is actually the Republic of China, and I'm genetically Han Chinese with Chinese ancestry."
xaznboixd 3 months ago
@xaznboixd Although I get where you're coming from, that logic doesn't really work. Do Americans, Australians & Canadians get told they're not actually their own people because they speak english, read english, write english and are genetically & ancestrally english? Yes, Taiwan needs to acknowledge its roots, that they originated from China, but that doesn't mean they can't be their own people, & when they say they're not 'chinese', its just a way of distinguishing themselves from China.
Ryoko48 3 months ago
@Ryoko48 I get what you're saying too but there's something else. People from America, Australia, and Canada speak English, yes. But they aren't primarily made up of one ethnicity. There are Blacks, White, Latinos/Latinas, Asians, etc. With that being said, someone may call themselves an "Asian American" because they are of Asian ethnicity, and are citizens of the US. So would it make sense that someone is both Chinese and Taiwanese?
xaznboixd 3 months ago
@xaznboixd Well all those people in America just came over from other countries. It would make sense that someone is both Chinese and Taiwanese. People in Taiwan are ethnically Chinese, but they call themselves Taiwanese when it comes to nationality. Same with America, the majority of people are Caucasian and from England, Germany, Russia, etc. but they're American why aren't they just called whatever country they are from. They are German and American, or whatever ethnicity they are.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@AznKorn8 I'm glad that you agree on the part that people from Taiwan can be both Taiwanese and Chinese. But I honestly don't know why Caucasians are "American" and not "German American" etc. I think they're whatever ethnicity they are and American.
xaznboixd 3 months ago
@Ryoko48 The generations after the people that immigrated to the U.S. grew up in the U.S. So they call themselves Americans. Generations of people after the ones that moved to Taiwan grew up in Taiwan so they call themselves Taiwanese. Both sides have similarities but grow up in different ways and environments.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@xaznboixd Our nationality isn't Chinese but we are ethnically, that's why we say it. Would it be the same for America, Canada, and Australia. "Oh, I'm not English but I speak English, I read English, I write English, the name of my country is United States of America, and I'm genetically English with English ancestry." The 2 are different countries, just like the US and England. There are similarities but there is also differences that make us who we are.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@AznKorn8 I get what you mean. So like you're of Chinese ethnicity but of Taiwanese nationality (correct me if I got the wrong idea)?
xaznboixd 3 months ago
台湾和大陆也一样，可能我们的政见不一样，但是必须要记住我们都 是炎黄子孙！即使是现在，只要有外国损害中华民族的利益，我们都 应该并肩战斗！我們都是漢人。我們應該團結起來。
earthtojanson 5 months ago 2
yeah~ I'm so proud that I'm TAIWANESE = )))
RPAY100 5 months ago
I didn't know that Taiwan was a part of China
MusicaAmazigh 5 months ago
@MusicaAmazigh It isnt ^^
TheDopenessism 5 months ago
Taiwanese people are mostly Han Chinese by heritage, myself being one. It's just stupid how many Americans group mainlanders with Taiwanese people though. Not the same. Taiwanese people have WAY better manners than mainlanders, plus wayyyy hotter girls.
guitarhamster102 6 months ago 7
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WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
@guitarhamster102 LOL nice way to stereotype there buddy.
WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
@guitarhamster102 and we're not communists like those filthy animals.
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
国骂都被外国人知道了，还真他妈的！无论是谁，只要在中国生活过，便总得常听到“他妈的”或“干你娘”的脏话。我想：这话的分布，大概就跟美国人干预别国领土乃至侵入足迹之所至，次数恐怕也未必比“肏你妈”会少。
=)
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
@TaiwaneseNOTChinese You. Are full of hate. Represent mang REPRESENT.
tanj19 6 months ago
CHINK FIGHT!!! CHINK FIGHT! CHINK FIGHT!!!
MexicanInvasionPride 6 months ago
Please someone tell me the song that plays in the background? D;
YukiCrossist 6 months ago
what is the name of the song in the begining? :3
YukiCrossist 6 months ago
A lot of "anti-Chinese" people, especially Taiwanese, try too hard to separate themselves from the mainland. LOL @ different accents! Do you guys realize that there are many ethnic groups and provinces in China? Not everyone speaks Mandarin the same, just like any other country. What's next? Should Cantonese people continue to fight and someone like Jackie Chan should announce that he is no longer Chinese? or how about Jin the MC? Oh wait, Kevjumba has also said he's Chinese in his Iyaz video.
PhoKinhYue 6 months ago 22
You realize they have their own democratic system and don't pay taxes to the mainland. And mainlanders need a visa to visit Taiwan. Last time I checked (wait, I don't even need to check, just common sense) I didn't need a visa to cross from Ontario to Quebec. I don't think the Taiwanese are trying too hard to separate. They already ARE separate.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi u do realize Hong Kong for the longest time was separate too? but do you hear people like Jackie Chan claiming he is not Chinese? Noooooooooooo. Last time I checked (wait, oh I don't need to check, just common sense) just because North Korea and South Korea are two different nations politically...doesn't mean they are not KOREANS. Overseas Viets don't agree with Vietnamese communists, but they are all still Vietnamese. Common sense.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest Why do you guys keep referring to Jackie Chan like he represents HK? But anyway....HK before the British rule was a part of China, and now that it's under China's rule again. That's why "Jackie Chan" doesn't deny he's Chinese. Simple logic. Sorry you couldn't comprehend.
Haha how clever, quoting me to make you sound witty! And the sarcasm award goes to...me.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi Obviously you have no common sense. And where do you think the majority of people from Taiwan heritage came from? China. Sorry you couldn't comprehend. Same reason why Kevjumba and Jeremy Lin don't deny that they're Chinese either.
And the loser award goes to...you.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@chiahandidi
what?
ImSoPinoyPride 6 months ago in playlist kevjumba
@chiahandidi You clearly missed his point. Even if Taiwan was considered a separate country of its own, the majority of people are of Chinese heritage. Chinese can refer to both a NATIONALITY and ETHNICITY. Just because you're ashamed of saying you're Chinese, it doesn't mean other people are like that INCLUDING Kevjumba.
ImSoPinoyPride 6 months ago in playlist kevjumba
@PhoKinhYue Chill out. They are just saying they are Han ppl from Taiwan & not from China. They are not saying diff. accents = diff. country. It was just a difference btw the 2 countries. People in England, Canada, USA all speak English (some in different accents) but they are separate countries. The fact is Taiwan IS a separate country w/ its own government SEPARATE from China. In fact, since PRC's establishment, it never controlled any of the territories ROC's government currently governs.
chanjadeo 6 months ago 4
@chanjadeo
Actually the majority of the world doesn't even consider Taiwan as it's own "country" and the country itself isn't known as "Taiwan", Taiwan is just the island. It is governed by the "Republic of China". There is communist China PRC, and there's the non-communist ROC. They are all still Chinese. Just because North vs South are two different countries does not make them non-Koreans.
WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
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@WhiteGuysAsianGirls Please read all my comments before you use the same arguments that I just responded to. "Taiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both TW&China, ppl refer to themselves as Hua Ren meaning Chinese/Han ppl. It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are Hua Ren from TW, they are NOT saying that they are not from HAN ppl. Since they Han ppl are born in TW, they would naturally say their nat. is Taiwanese, just like an ABC would say their nat. is American"
chanjadeo 5 months ago
As you can see, I did not say they were not Chinese. Most Taiwanese are NOT ignorant like the user "TaiwaneseNOTChinese" & claim that they are not Hua Ren aka from Han ppl. Most Taiwanese ppl (TW citizens) KNOW that their (great) grand parents (etc) did migrate from mainland China. Some ppl like the user "TWNOTChinese" prob. strongly believe they are not Chinese from China bc A) they are TW Aboriginals. B) China's bad reputation/bad manner stereotype. C)Bad things China gov. did to TW in history
chanjadeo 5 months ago
@chanjadeo Taiwanese not the same thing!!!
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 5 months ago
@WhiteGuysAsianGirls People say they are Taiwanese because that is where they are from. They were born and raised there, that's why they refer to themselves as Taiwanese.
AznKorn8 3 months ago
@PhoKinhYue Taiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both Taiwan & China, ppl refer to themselves as "hua ren" which means "Chinese/Han ppl". It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are "hua ren" from Taiwan, they are NOT saying that they are not from the HAN ppl. So since they Han ppl are born in Taiwan, they would naturally say their nationality is Taiwanese, just like a person who has “Asian” parents but is born in the US would say their nationality is American.
chanjadeo 6 months ago
@chanjadeo
WE ARE TAIWANESE NOT CHINESE!!!! END OF STORY!!!
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago 4
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It's funny, "Taiwanese" people can't even make up their minds. Taiwan is only the island, the actual territory or state is referred to as "Republic of China". Just because you don't agree with China politically, doesn't mean you aren't Chinese. That's like me saying people from "North Korea" are not Koreans and I should call myself "Seoulrean". Both Kevin and Jeremy Lin, whose parents are from "Taiwan" have also said that they're Chinese.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago 20
@KoreansDoItBest I'm actually not too sure what you're trying to say to be honest. But Taiwan is not a territory or state. Sure, it's Republic of China, another way to call it: Taiwan, and it's different from PRC. So yes, they can call themselves Taiwanese. And Taiwanese people will call themselves Taiwanese because they're politically, socially, and geographically different. People from North Korea are North Koreans. You're South Korean. Are you different? Yes. Is PRC and ROC different? Yes.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi When did I say the Republic of China is the same PRC? See that's what you keep assuming when someone says CHINESE. That is you're mistake. When someone says they're Chinese, it doesn't only mean that they're from the PRC. Someone from Australia, Canada, USA, can all say they are also Chinese through their heritage or THEIR ETHNICITY. We are different POLITICALLY, not RACIALLY. WE ARE STILL KOREANS. You obvioulsy have a bias agenda.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest Have you lived in China or Taiwan? You realize then that they were ethnically different. Just because they have a common language and ancestry doesn't mean they have the same social lifestyles, religion, or culture. So when someone says Chinese, it refers politically and ethnically to China or PRC. No, I made no mistake, but thanks for trying.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi LMAO. You obviously haven't lived in China or Taiwan either. The two major ETHNIC GROUPS in China and Taiwan are Han Chinese.
CHINA has even more ethnic groups than Taiwan. So when someone says CHINESE, it doesn't only refer to CHina or PRC. Yes you made a mistake and thanks for failing.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest I love how you know my history. It's like we've been bffs forever! Yeah I failed my attempt to teach an idiot something. Sorry I tried.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi I don't think you speak for Taiwanese either. You make us look bad, please shut the fuck up.
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
@TaiwaneseNOTChinese 我的啊媽只能說日本話跟台灣話。我每天跟啊媽說台灣話。媽的。你是台灣人嗎？
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi Let me put it in a language you will understand, if you truly are from Taiwan.
幹你娘!!!!!
走開!!!!
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
@TaiwaneseNOTChinese lol, you sound like a Taiwanese wannabe who just wants to show off the swears he just learned from his buddy
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi nope, I know you're just mad. You don't speak for Taiwanese. Please shut the fuck up, do I really need to type that out for you in Traditional Chinese as well? lol
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
你說得對. 我不是代表台灣說話. 我代表我自己. google translate that Wannabe.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi Nope, the only wannabe is you crying over Youtube comments and spending your whole life on here. Google this bitch!
我是台灣人，不是中國人. 你是白痴.
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
@chiahandidi you're all Chinos, u mad bro?
MexicanInvasionPride 6 months ago
@MexicanInvasionPride what a racist ignorant comment.
chanjadeo 6 months ago
@chiahandidi no you just failed to understand and you backed that up with your initial comment. It's ok, I know it's difficult for slow people like you to understand.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest It's okay, I'm still giving slower people like you a chance to understand.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
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chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi haha obviously a person like you who already said he doesn't understand wouldn't understand to begin with. That's why you removed your comment because you just don't understand!
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest yeah I didn't understand you lol. I removed it because my comment was posted twice. Doing you a favor because I thought it would confuse those with low IQ
chiahandidi 6 months ago
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@chiahandidi since you're spending your whole life on Youtube:
干你娘
舔你的祖母的阴道
你强奸你的女儿和姐妹
TaiwaneseNOTChinese 6 months ago
@TaiwaneseNOTChinese lol says the guy who was still going on one hour after I signed off.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi Just because people in China have a common language and ancestry doesn't mean they have the same social lifestyles, religion, or culture either. I've taught English in both "Taiwan" and the mainland. Before you go on your Chinese government rant, check yourself.
WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
@WhiteGuysAsianGirls You've taught English in a country and you think you know everything about that country? That's the ignorance of white people.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi The ignorance is with you since you're contradicting yourself by generalizing White people. Clearly, you have no clue what you're talking about because you don't apply your own logic to what you're trying to preach.
WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
@WhiteGuysAsianGirls Tell me how much you know about China or Taiwan, then say that to me.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi small dicks, slanted eyes, pan face, can't drive, bad breathe, slanted pussies, dog eaters. All the same. It's true. Check the facts! hahahaha
MexicanInvasionPride 6 months ago
@chiahandidi oh ya and last time I checked, the majority of the world doesn't even think of "Taiwan" as a nation.
Taiwan = Republic of China aka CHINESE Taipei. They are still Chinese. Use common sense and realize that just because someone says that they're Chinese it doesn't mean they are communist. Kevjumba has even said he was "Chinese" as well, go watch his Iyaz video. Common sense.
KoreansDoItBest 6 months ago
@KoreansDoItBest And where did you check? I'd love to see the data! But if it's just according to your pea-sized brain, forget it haha. You make Kevjumba sound like he's your god; whatever he says is truth. Sad.
chiahandidi 6 months ago
@chiahandidi u mad bro? people from Taiwan = Chinese.
ImSoPinoyPride 6 months ago
@chiahandidi " I'm actually not too sure what you're trying to say to be honest. "
That's obviously your problem right there. It's quite clear what he's trying to say. He means EVEN THOUGH North Korea and South Korea are two different nations and both have two different political systems, that doesn't CHANGE the fact that they're both still KOREANS.
It's quite obvious that you have no common sense .
WhiteGuysAsianGirls 6 months ago
@chiahandidi No, you don't understand. I have family from Taiwan and they actually refer to themselves as Chinese from Taiwan. Not everyone from there denies that they're Chinese. Just like I know people who are Chinese from Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, Canada (Peter Chao), Kevjumba, etc. That's the point. All those people live in different countries with different governments but they're all still Chinese.
PhoKinhYue 6 months ago
aiwanese & Chinese ppl know that they come from the same HAN ppl. In both Taiwan & China, ppl refer to themselves as "hua ren" which means "Chinese/Han ppl". It's just Taiwanese ppl mean they are "hua ren" from Taiwan, they are NOT saying that they are not from the HAN ppl. So since they Han ppl are born in Taiwan, they would naturally say their nationality is Taiwanese, just like a person who has “Asian” parents but is born in the US would say their nationality is American.
chanjadeo 6 months ago
Taiwan makes up 99% of ROC that is why ppl refer to it as ROC. Both KevJumba & Jeremy Lin have said they're Chinese AND Taiwanese. Yes you can be both Chinese & Taiwanese. They're all from HAN ppl it's just different & SEPARATE countries. And don't judge ALL Taiwanese ppl just bc of the comments of 1 Taiwanese person geez. Not all Taiwanese ppl get offended if you call them Chinese, they just mean they're not from China, they're from Taiwan. Learn your history before you start stereotyping.
chanjadeo 6 months ago 2
So many CIA trolls on here....
proudemogrl 6 months ago
@Dorkwhenlearning Yes, I have been to China many times. Have you? Things change everytime I go there. You sound like a member of the KKK. Are you saying that Chinese people are incapable of civility, ettiquette, education, and morals? If you really are Chinese, then you have issues.
Bigot much?
proudemogrl 6 months ago
@proudemogrl ironic that even "Taiwan" tries to keep Traditional Chinese writing, yet these Green party extremists can't realize the fact that politics doesn't change someone's heritage.
SirBigDICKNigga 6 months ago
@SirBigDICKNigga what?
chiahandidi 6 months ago
這裡只講英文的嘛? haha
I have been to China and I'm Taiwanese. I know we have a lot of diferrent. Now Taiwan is a sovereign nation but China always think Taiwan is a part of China(PRC)! They never admitted Taiwan(ROC) is not a part of them.
pp28477498 6 months ago 2
ok for you arrogant people. officially there is 1 china, technically there is 2. prc (aka mainland, aka china), roc (taiwan, taipei). roc ruled all of china until 1949, the lost war moved to one of islands of china, TAIWAN. They can't call themselves chinese cause of the UN acknowledged only 1 China. Most "Taiwanese" are immigrants from mainland.
Taiwan is officially called Republic of China. Taiwan is the name of the island not the nation. So yes he is Taiwanese, but also he is Chinese.
myfunkychannel 6 months ago
Whats tiwanese?why dont asians like white people :'(
BeProudToBeYou 6 months ago
Sry I meant not born in china
lenangjf 6 months ago
Haha can't believe how some people can mix stuffs up, funny. My country is a multi-racial society but predominantly Chinese, thank god I'm a Chinese not born in Chinese. Some of the china people rly have no etiquette and I agree that their govt system is fucked up. And sadly, more and more china people are coming over to my country, I feel so scared now hahaha
lenangjf 6 months ago
Taiwan =/= China get that straight.
TheDopenessism 6 months ago 3
@TheDopenessism Taiwan doesn't equal the acknowledged UN China. But Taiwan is part of China in geography and culture terms not the government or communism stuff. As Taiwan is still in battle with Beijing of who is the real government or party leader of the greater China. Ever since the lost the war in 1949 of controlling the mainland of china, they were forced to the island of Taiwan.
officially 1 China, technically 2. Taiwan regards itself as the owner of all of China.
myfunkychannel 6 months ago
@myfunkychannel In terms of national identity, Taiwan is a divided political entity. As to the legal status of Taiwan and the Penghu Islands, some people claim Taiwan "a part of China," some assert that Taiwan belongs to the Taiwanese people,Therefore, some people favor the so-called "unification" with China. Most favor independence, The proposition you stated in your last comment is true, but ONLY for the KMT and it's followers, not for all the Taiwanese people.
TheDopenessism 6 months ago
@TheDopenessism
North Korea = Communist
South Korea = Non-Communist
North Koreans + South Koreans = Koreans.
Taiwan = Republic of China. Don't forget that.
KoreansGOGAY4JayPark 6 months ago
@KoreansGOGAY4JayPark True, some say Taiwan is identical to the Republic of China. But, some don't because they believe the ROC government is just a government-in-exile and an alien regime. The U.S. government holds the position that neither Taiwan nor the Republic of China enjoys the status of state. Under the Taiwan Relations Act, Taiwan is treated as a quasi-state, a self-govering political entity, and a protectorate of the United States. You cannot judge Taiwan and China as Korea.
TheDopenessism 6 months ago
@TheDopenessism says the guy who came back lol and the U.S. also protects South Korea, and he just did judge Korea with Taiwan and China. Keep crying.
BlackStunna818 6 months ago
and he is texan, i sooooo had the feeling about that too. proud of myself, proud of myself, i am right for once, lol
LoNaMuZiKe 6 months ago
ha, it's funny cuz from the vids i thought he was chinese, and so it turns out i'm right. (yes i knw he's from taiwan, and i know taiwan is separated from china, but he is of chinese race).
LoNaMuZiKe 6 months ago
me gusta :)
Linneaisweird227 6 months ago