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[786SyedFaizan]

VERY INTERESTING VIDEO OF AAMIR LIAQAT IS AVAILABE

"real face of aamir liaqat:

[06alamm]

Salam im trying ot sign up but there is no link :( ?

[shahidkamal]

@06alamm Please have a look at the message in the general section of the forum that shows you what you need to do.

[skyboy7us]

Christian in Pakistan call them selves Masseehi and that's what they want to be called.

Because they believe Christ's name wasn't ISA it was Yasoo so ISAI is not proper term to be used 4 them.

[fbajwa1]

Shahid Kamal. During your interview on Iqra, you said that Ahmadi Muslims are completely subservient to their host country.

Knowing that the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community openly condemned the Swiss Minaret ban, is it still fair to say we are completely subservient? Of course not. Condemning a law is not at all complete subservience.

So will you post a message recanting what you said about this topic on your forum (the cult)?

[shahidkamal]

That's a good question. I will do a blog post about this soon insha'Allah. BTW, how many Mirzais in Switzerland, how many Qadiani houses of worship there, how many Qadiani minarets there and who spoke up for you in Switzerland?

[fbajwa1]

How many of us in Switzerland?

Not Many. Very few in fact.

How many Mosques?

Again I'm not sure, but very few I suppose. Maybe we only have only one. I don't know.

How many Ahmadi minarets are there?

Same number as the number of mosques . I'm guessing one. Maybe two?

Who spoke up in Swtzerland?

to my knowledge, nobody. But this wasn't because we are afraid to or because we are ashamed or, like you say, subservient. It is because the opportunity never arose.

[fbajwa1]

If the Swiss media offered an interview to an Ahmadi official the way they asked ghar-Ahmadis, the Ahmadis would happily accept. But they didn't.

So how "exactly" do we speak up?

I also want to add that there are only four minarets in Switzerland. And if you look up Islam in Switzerland on Wikipedia you will see that the Ahmadiyya mosque is one of the mosques with a Minaret.

[shahidkamal]

By "ghar Ahmadis" you meant Muslims, right? Don't worry, i'm well versed on the Switzerland situation and the number of actual minarets. Unlike Mirzais, I take an active interest in such issues.

[fbajwa1]

Honestly, I was reluctant to use the word ghar Ahmadi initially because I had a feeling it would pinch a nerve. But I ended up using it to make a point.

You referred to me as a mirzai and a qadiani. Mirzai apparently means follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed AS. We refer to our jamat as Ahmadiyya because Ahmed was another name of The Holy Prophet SAW. Qadiani is a person from Qadian. Both of these terms are used out of ignorance and you are well aware of this fact but continued to use them.

[shahidkamal]

Didn't "pinch a nerve" at all. I used to use the term myself when I was a Qadiani. I know Mirzais are sensitive about these terms, but they use the term "Isai" to refer to Christians and "ghair Ahmadi" to refer to Muslims.

A "Mirzai" is a follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, whether they be from the Qadiani or Lahori branch of the movement. Muslims prefer not to use the term "Ahmadi", because it is a hijacked term.

[fbajwa1]

I never knew a religion can be named after a city. Seriously, what sense is there in calling my religion Qadiani.

According to YOUR logic, Jews and Christians are in fact Jerusalemites.

Hindus are now Bangaloris?

Sikhs are Amritsaris.

And I guess sunnis are Jerusalemites because they believe Prophet Muhammad SAW physically rose to heaven from the Al-Aqsa mosque

If you must to give us the name of a city, then make it Mecca.Because that is where my head is pointed when I bow to Allah.

[shahidkamal]

That's interesting, so you accept you have a different religion. If you did that, and that is what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his son did, then there would be few problems between us.

[fbajwa1]

Yes, of course my religion is different from yours. And obviously I'm going to argue that I believe in Islam and you are misled. Likewise, you will argue that you are in fact a true Muslim and I am the one who is misled.

[shahidkamal]

Actually, the whole "True Islam" meme is mostly an Ahmadiyya thing. There is just Islam. It doesn't need any prefixes (like "True") or suffixes (like "Ahmadiyya")

I wouldn't call myself a "True Muslim". Just a Muslim. I won't call you "non-Muslim" either. Just misguided. Is that a good enough basis for a conversation?

[fbajwa1]

Although I understand where you're coming from, I don't agree with you on the whole "True" thing

And you may consider me as a misled Muslim but that's becasue of your Ahmadi background. It is the consensus of mainstream Muslims that Ahmadis are kaffir. And the same goes for us Ahmadis as we beleive you are not an actual Muslim.

[AadamInsaan]

@fbajwa1

-Regarding muslims in general,

are you saying that people following mr. Mirza Ghulam A. are of the opinion that all non bleivers/followers of mr Mirza Ghulam A, from Qadian are non-muslims?

Can you give me an yes or no.

[fbajwa1]

ALL Muslims you the word Isai. Why did you say "but they[Qadianis] use the term 'Isai' to refer to Christians"

We beleive in Muhamad SAW as well as Ghulam Ahmed AS. So why do you call us mirzais only?

[shahidkamal]

I don't, I call them Christians. And what do Christians call themselves in Pakistan?

[fbajwa1]

Isahih meaning followers of Isa AS. Christian also means follower of Isa AS.

Who is the main figure of Christianity? Isa AS.

when I went to Pakistan I heard nonahmadi muslims refer to christians as Isaiah. I don't know where you got the idea that only ahmadis use this term. And Christian is an English word. So when we speak in English, we use the word Christian.

[fbajwa1]

I have a problem with mirzai becasue we follow Muhammed SAW. We have just as much respect and love towards him as you do. Who is the central figure of Islam- e-Ahmadiyyat? Hadhrat Muhammad SAW.

[skyboy7us]

@shahidkamal They want to be called masseehi and that's what they call them selves in Pakistan

[waqiahmed2]

I visited your site

If you think you are right then it should be open to everyone.

Reither it says: Forum permissions

You cannot post new topics in this forum. You cannot reply to topics in this forum.

[shahidkamal]

That's odd, that shouldn't happen. It's possible your application didn't get processed. Please send me your login details and I will investigate. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Predator00777]

its time to reveal the truth !!!!!!!

its time to lighten those blind eyes !!!!!

its time fer Mr Shahid Kamal and others to reveal ISLAM !!!!

thumbs up fer every1 working on that forum !!

[theguided1]

[2:19] صُمٌّۢ بُكْمٌ عُمْىٌ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُوْنَ ۙ‏

[2:19] صُمُّۢ بُكۡمٌ عُمۡىٌ۬ فَهُمۡ لَا يَرۡجِعُونَ

[2:19] They are deaf, dumb and blind; so they will not return.

[2:19] وہ بہرے ہیں، وہ گونگے ہیں، وہ اندھے ہیں۔ پس وہ (ہدایت کی طرف) نہیں لوٹیں گے۔

[theguided1]

[11:35] اور تمہیں میری نصیحت کوئی فائدہ نہیں دے گی خواہ میں تمہیں نصیحت کرنے کا ارادہ بھی کروں اگر اللہ چاہے کہ تمہیں گمراہ ٹھہرا دے۔ وہ تمہارا ربّ ہے اور اسی کی طرف تم لوٹائے جاؤ گے۔

[theguided1]

[11:25] The case of the two parties is like that of the blind and the deaf, and the seeing and the hearing. Is the case of the two alike? Will you not then understand?

[muhamedalam]

Assalamu alaikum Brother...cud u tel how can become a member in ur forum... i cudnt see any option to sign up for new members..

[shahidkamal]

wa `alaykum salaam wa Rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh. I will try and fix it this evening insha'Allah.

[IJKBaluch]

Shahid

You you can't bear truth so you banned me twice Why?

Your called your sister leaving jamaat as Bold & Beautiful step & I said yes its Bold & Beautiful like Star TV Series Bold & Beautiful . You removed my post & banned me permanently.

You people cannot bear truth & feel proud & think that you're rendering services to cause of Islam but in reality to are following Satan only.

Time has proved that you all R bunch of 72 sects against ONE Naji Jamaat but can never get United.

[fawzbani]

Right! you ahmedis are not even in the 72 sects LOL! what a pity you can't even accept the fact that you all are not MUSLIM, you are AHMEDI. You cannot be MUSLIM & AHMEDI at the same time, no such thing as two in one or two for one! TWO FOR ONE! na'uzubillah! you have made GOD cheap!

[xXloveforalXx]

get your facts straight , the holy prophet (saw) said theyre would be 73 sects in islam. and only one of them would be the right one. and who are you to tell us if we're muslims or not. God will give his final word to this, i think you should stay out of this, and do us all a favour.

[abseiduk]

brother where do they get the money from to build the big mosques and TV stations??? the ahmadiyea are a bunch of joke with a baseless faith.

[IJKBaluch]

Ikramkay310ghadhay.

If you like to read abuses blames they you must carry on but also watch artificial forum in the name of alislam and enjoy your brand of Islamic teaching.

When in your mind are used to blue prints only then how porn people like can understand.

MGA (as) clearly pointed out that those having inner eyes can only understand which provides yet another proof that you people are eyes blind ears duff disbelievers.

So carry on laughing & enjoying before your turn.

[IJKBaluch]

Not only you but you're predecessors has claimed they have given extra ordinary cast iron proofs against Ahmadiyyat but failed badly & gone to their graves without watching remotest success.

So what if an ill literate scholar pleasing his ego. by producing such nonsensical videos to which one can laugh a lot.

Your videos are proof of your modrate Islam knowledge.

You are making fool of yourself.

[IJKBaluch]

A f orum of Fake ID holder's Liar's Abuser's Blamer's & Rebele of Allah His Prophets.

So no one is joining because you all are serving the cause of your Master Ablees Laeen.

Your bloody Pic is enough to judge your so called brand of Islam.

Carry on adding sin for your life in hereafter.

You

[riazh1]

Shahid you are truly living by your name as a Witness to the truth. The Cult and it's zionist funders are feeling the power of the Truth; their days are numbered!

[IJKBaluch]

If you are your Madar Pidar Azad associates continue spreading vulgarity abuses & in the name of Islam no one will come to your forum.

You people have proved that you are Abad of Iblees.

Therefore, carry on pleasing Satan & wait for your turn.

[shahidkamal]

Uncle, you ran away because we presented cast iron proof of Mr. Mirza's vulgarity and blasphemy, from his own books. You couldn't handle it, so you ran and now call us Satanic? How very odd.

[karimwithlove]

Masroo ne kaha Sood buri cheez hai,,,magar MUSALMANO ne 50 Non-Interest BANks khol diye hain Uk me..

bartania ka har shahri janta hai -ISLAMIC banks Kiya hain aur Kiyon hain !!

ye to wahi baat huwi ke koi aakar kahe ke "hamne bartani logon ko bataya ke Mohammad saww Rasool hain"

had kardi qadianio ne

[tubiggies]

i didnt want to do this but kamal u asked for it- Let the truth become known-

exosing SHahid:

The reason he is no longer a muslim is because after his father died of cancer (Allah bless him) Shahid WANTED a loan from jamat for the costs, etc. And so Jamma'h rejecteed this cuz just exactly what does he think this is, lol . and so he got so mad that he suddenly realised the Prophets of Allah were fraedulent and so he left islam. That is the story of this man. have a nice day. Truth!

[shahidkamal]

Why do you not just use the term "Muslim"? Is the name that Alah (SWT) gave those who submit not good enough for you?

Mirza is your Satanic Master. Why? Because he was inspired by Satan. It is the only explanation. He too was in the habit of making ad hominem attacks and calling people liars when he lost an argument.

[tubiggies]

nomenclature bro- clearly sunnis have somthing against Education- no wonder u guys are experts in raising hell. u guys jump on the mistake of one ahamdi muslim and then on the other hand every hour some girl is raped by a sunni or wahabi and these are the ppeople of Allah!?Yee ok double stanard- Education DEficit- whos to blame? o and by the way mr. Kamal were rethinking of paying the cancer costs- what phony u are, i can aassasinate your character on so many fronts, but u hav fun utuber, enjoy.

[tubiggies]

i have no problem with Muslims- people who belive in peace. And one more thing my view does not represent the view of ahmadiyyat nessarilly so please dont over generealize. As we speak a sunni is killing someone, u tlak of exposing Ahmadi Muslims and u guys gett all excited about one incidence and blow it out of proportion- ssee if we ahamdies do the same- wed be writng BS sunnis do 24/7. u guysdont stop sining!!

[samrazulfiqar]

shahid you are so cute and naughty

[IamAhmadiMuslim]

but you lie all the time. you take excerpts from mirza sahib's books and make objections not even considerign that what you object on falls on holy prophet SAW. maybe your hearts are completely devoid of any taqwa.

[shahidkamal]

What is an "AhmadiMuslim"? What a strange oxymoron.

Listen, if you have an objection, raise it. If you are here for ad hominem attacks without any substance, then go the way of Mirza, your Satanic master.

Calling someone a liar without evidence is sinful, but as a Qadiani, that is the way you operate.

[IamAhmadiMuslim]

Dear shahidkamal. it is an oxymoron for you since you do not believe in it. for me it is a clear logical way to present myself.

funny that you object to my comments but then yourself call mirza sahib 'satanic master' and make a baseless statement at the end.

i had refuted several of mr.ikram310 misquotations and i am referring to that. How did i make an attack? i said MAYBE based on the evidence i have from previous encounters.

[AbuIsaSalafi]

Let us forget that part. But show us now evidances where the brother have made misstakes.

Please answer shahidkamals vids with clear evidances.

[samrazulfiqar]

oay tameez karo, there is no comparison b/w Allah's last massenger & ur fake nabi, read wat mehmood ahmad khaleefa qadian said

"mehdi k mutaliq jo pesh goiyan hoi hain un se maloom hota hai k kai mehdi hon gay.. aik tou khud mirza sahb hain, aainda bhi kai mehdi aa sakty hain"

ye b lo

"unhon ne samjh lia k khuda k khazany khatm ho gaye.. unka ye samjhna khuda tala ki qadr na samjhnay ki wajah se hai warna aik nabi kia main tou kehta hon k hazaron nabi hon gay"

who is ahmadi nabi these days?

[shahidkamal]

And they removed the Mirza Masroor facebook pages too...

[Philip0Stewart]

woohoo

shahid is back in town!!!

qadianis start runnin!

welcome back superstar!!!

[shahidkamal]

LOL! How are you doing bro?

Insha'Allah I got a new video coming today too...

[biggerguy2008]

shahidkamal, have you noticed how much your face has degraded over the period of one year since you started posting deception against Allah's chosen one, the defender of Islam as prophesied by the Holy Prophet (SAW) himself. It clearly shows how much laanat Allah has showered on your face. You almost look like a pig who has been purged of shame and fear of Allah.

[shahidkamal]

qadiani biggerguy, don't you have any shame? Is this the best you can do to defend your extremist cult? You are being banned to save you from yourself, but perhaps you should look at pictures of Masroor before he became your "khalifa" and pictures of him now. Then think again before being such a hate-filled extremist cultee.

[safbat]

MASHA ALLAH Shahid Kamal looks good.

ALLAH Almighty degrated face of Kazzab mga.

[biggerguy2008]

Your forum is another grouping of ikhwan-u-shayateen. iblees, your lord and master will be proud of you.

[samrazulfiqar]

bigger guy, you sound like a guy with BIG back and a tiny cock, shut ur mouth

[cankhadim]

Yall aint got no lives! ya claim "Ahamdiyyat is tottaly baloney"-and still u sacrifice hours of your useless! time to discuss it. Then you start to make friends over the internet. Now u know u jus big talk and following a religon over the internet(u got problems).

o and once again have a very merry christmas-Orthowack756,qadiani­-addicted-killer, shakmal and of course the risk kane -the group of losers(at life) out for attantion. Go practice Islam. Whether u b zunni, Shhia, or Ahmadi Muslim.

[shahidkamal]

Not your Internet - the site is being upgraded and moved to a new host today. It will be back soon insha'Allah.

[qadiyanikiller]

Welcome back brother shahid. Please keep up the noble work of exposing Mirza's idiocities. I came across a video clip from an ahmadi where he mentions an ilham of mirza. Mirza was unwell & prayed to Allah. Mirza aledgedly claims to have ilham from Allah, "hum nat tumhari bemarioon ka thaika lay rakha hay" haahahahahahaha! i expect Allah may have slaped him as well on some other ocassion.

Allah is kind to even the worst of human beings and this bugger says..........

Mirza is a cult leader.

[Rizkhanae]

Dear Mr Kamal

Nice to see you on board. Keep coming.

[awais123]

jazakallah welcome back brother, all qadianis are missing you

[farhan00]

Notice how he's wearing a black thowb :-)

I can tell by the collar

[Orthodox786]

Shahid bhai!!!!! Welcome back bro!!!!

[shahidkamal]

Jazakallah khayr akhi!

[monumonu2007]

surprise surprise!!!!!!!!!!!

[farhan00]

Can I contribute!

Seriously, I have some content I've wanted to share with you. Send me an email bro

[shahidkamal]

Of course brother, join us there and discuss!

[yousafuk2007]

Salaam. C U There soon

[IamBatman872003]

welcome back, its always a pleasure to learn from you, may allah guide me and you. Salam

[UltraBLACKKK]

JazakAllah Khayr bro.

[xiaahmad]

brother After soooooooooo Long time

plz keep making videos

[MoslimDude]

Keep up the good work. 5 stars.

[MoslimKid]

Jazak Allah Khair. Keep it up.