Project Gunwalker: ATF Scandal Unfolding; Gunrunner; Mexican drug Cartels; BATFE

[spacegasp]

@jibranstetter04 "Project Gunrunner was created during the Bush Administration to stop straw purchases of guns headed to Mexico"....... BULL SHIT!!! Bush is just as guilty...please stop being a schmuck...

[jbranstetter04]

@spacegasp No, Bush is not guilty at all. No guns walked to Mexico during the Bush Administration. Their legal advisers told them that not only would it be illegal to do it, but that it would be immoral. Then the Obama Administration reversed all of that and let guns go to Mexico. For what reason, we can only surmise.

[FreedomsPatriot]

Wait until your natural resources of oil & gas runs out and your economy will have to make a profit, then what will the welfare state do?

[FreedomsPatriot]

Obama propaganda stunt to introduce more gun control crap!

[Janusha]

@FreedomsPatriot

hahahaha americans and their infinite naivety and such fear of someone taking your god damn guns away. Oh my... how we point and laugh at you narcisistic bewildered flagwaving fools here.

[FreedomsPatriot]

Liberal ignorant people still have never heard of anything about this yet!

Way to go MSNBC & CNN, keep em ignorant!

[DD826]

ATF is also pressureing FFL dealers to hold guns until background checks are replied to, rather then the 3 day requirement.

[capnhands]

Mexico should sue the ATF

[jbranstetter04]

It's important to understand the difference between "Project Gunrunner" and "Fast and furious", or otherwise known as "Project Gunwalker".

Project Gunrunner was created during the Bush Administration to stop straw purchases of guns headed to Mexico.

Fast and furious was started during the Obama Administration. What it did was to allow the straw purchased guns to "walk" to Mexico. The guns would then be tracked; that didn't work out very well. US agents were instead killed with the guns.

[lovejen01]

@jbranstetter04 NObama made another mess, of course push the blame on some else like he has been doing his entire term.

[BennyKrumnow]

If I supply weapons to a foreign government, foreign group or individual and, that wepon/wepons are use to kill, even a solitary American citizen on American soil, I have committed an act of Treason.

There is a, in progress event, bigger than Nixon’s Watergate

Yet, It could easely be “Sweept Under The Rug”.

No lives where lost as a result of Nixon’s Watergate.

[Crusader4ever1]

Question is...Obama's gov't orders ATF to allow guns walk to the Cartel which is now known to consist of the Mexican cartel, Hugo Chavez 's private army the FARC and the IRANIANS...Hezbollah....so WHY!!!!!!!!!!! These are the bad people who have already murdered, beheaded 40,000 people on the Mexican border.....WHAT IS GOING ON.....IS THIS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE???

[LesPaulCustom79]

IMPEACH THE LAWBREAKERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

[Crusader4ever1]

Question is...Obama's gov't orders ATF to allow guns walk to the Cartel which is now known to consist of the Mexican cartel, Hugo Chavez 's private army the FARC and the IRANIANS...Hezbollah....so WHY!!!!!!!!!!! These are the bad people who have already murdered, beheaded 40,000 people on the Mexican border.....WHAT IS GOING ON.....IS THIS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE???

[LesPaulCustom79]

@Crusader4ever1 The bastard Obama should be IMPEACHED immediately.

[Janusha]

ok... I dont understand the relevance here... Arent people killed by US guns every single day of the year by the thousands ? Why is this so special?

And the mexicans werent told about this operation? When did EVER american police care or trust mexicans with their operations ? This is silly.

A gun culture will produce deaths. Live by the sword, die by the sword or... guns.

[jbranstetter04]

@Janusha You're kind of pathetic, aren't you? Oh well, it takes all kinds.

[DD826]

@jbranstetter04 I agree, he is pathetic. I just wonder how, the libs can tell the difference between a good gun and a bad gun? I mean, it is the gun right, not the person? right? lol

[patriciaannpat]

@Janusha I would explain this to you but I think it would just evaporate in your brain ...go back to watching Spongebob

[Janusha]

@patriciaannpat

Why dont you take time out of your very busy day and explain it to me Jim Bob.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - This is "special" because the Obama administration is responsible for the death of a border agent, it's called "treason!"

[Janusha]

@StompingRabbits

If you really want to pull it that far... Who MADE the guns in the first place. Is it any less "treason" if the drug cartels bought it from someone else ? I call it bullshit.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - Why does it matter who made the guns? The fact of the matter is that the Obozo administration supplied Mexican drug gangs with firearms that where then used to execute an American Federal Border Agent. It's not illegal for companies with the proper permits to manufacture firearms nor is it immoral regardless of how idiot liberals hate the firearms manufacturers! What is very illegal and completely immoral is for an American President to supply Mexican drug gangs with firearms!

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - Of course you call it "bullshit" because your a liberal! Rest assured that the family of the murdered border agent doesn't share your opinion! To them it's along the order of high crimes and as a matter of fact it does rise to the level of an impeachable offense furthermore it makes Nixon's role in the Watergate scandal look like jay walking!

[Janusha]

@Stomp

Liberal, conservative, libertarian. Such concepts have no meaning outside america. From here it all looks ultra conservative. Are you perhaps suggesting whatever drug cartell would otherwise be unable to get firearms? American made firearms even? Its illegal to shoot people... After the fact, does it really matter where the gun come from? Or it does matter but only up to a point. Not all the way to who built and marketed it?

This isnt comparable to government corruption.

[Janusha]

America with its gun culture and gun production always manages to find something else to blame each and every time someone is actually killed.

[azzh00le]

@Janusha Just stay in your own fag country and quit worrying about what we do here

[Janusha]

@azzh00le

Im sure this america vs the wooorld thing you guys got going is all very entertaining but this pathologic aversion towards any foreign influence is freakshow funny. No healthcare in 2011. While the rest of the world had it since the first world war. Instead of socialism you have 45 million people on foodstamps... how 1930s is that. Its normal to be desperately conservative in times of recession but if you are going to be conservative. First make sure what you have is worth conserving.

[azzh00le]

@Janusha lol! no health care? Please explain why all these Canadian license plates are in U.S. hospital parking lots. I knew a guy that crossed the border to the U.S. to get treated for cancer because he would've died if he waited in Canada. Instead if socialism? Yeah I've seen the wonders of socialism in Europe. lol! thats working out great! I've known people from Europe that lived under it and they tell me it sucks

[Janusha]

@azzh00le

Why is there no waiting list for operations in USA? Because insurance companies either wont cover it or refuse payment. How you can patriotically DEFEND that rotten business is what I find freakshow funny. Its touching to see bewildered flagwaving fools fighting for the right to be put out on the streets if you lose your job or get ill. And what happens to the homeless? Straight to prison where they dont look bad on crime and poverty statistics. Socially america is a dinosaur.

[azzh00le]

@Janusha I never said it was a perfect system and the health insurance industry has a very modest profit margin. These "flag waving fools" you speak of don't want their tax dollars supporting lazy moochers who are perfectly capable of working but refuse to because they'd prefer to have a mommy and daddy government wiping their asses for them. There is abuse of the welfare and foodstamp system I've witnessed it.

[Janusha]

@azzh00le

Yeah lazy moochers such as myself. I was a computer games designer until I was hit by a bus while test-driving my unregistered motorcycle. In america I would be ruined. Here I have no medical bills, I get paid still when I dont work inorder to keep my place in society until I return to the job that waits for me... In america all that would be entirely "unconstitutional" In america you instead fall out of society. In USA there is only ONE way to legally make money. Its called work.

[Janusha]

Anything you do outside of work to make money is pr definition a crime. And what do americans do with criminals? Put them away... Forever. because then they dont look bad on unemployment, poverty and crime statistics. Subsequently today 1 in 40 americans are in the prison system. 1 in 9 blacks are behind bars right now. Infact 1 in 4 prisoners in the whole world are americans. There they work for 50 pence an hour or they are put in solitary confinement. But hey.. atleast they arent unemployed.

[Janusha]

You say farmasutical corporations have a low margin? Arent they some of the biggest companies in america? In place of a social system, you have doctors and lawyers running your entire country. Sure as hell isnt a society I want to be in. It used to kinda make sense in america because you had far less taxes because your government didnt have a social system to run. But today.. You pay the same taxes as the rest of the modern world yet you get nothing in return whereas we have all these goodies.

[azzh00le]

@Janusha You have no clue what you're talking about. I've known people in youre situation and we have something called medicaid and ss disability and they do fine, we have those things which are intended for people who GENUINLEY NEED IT! Goddamn my ancestors came from your country, it troubles me we could be related

[Janusha]

@azzh00le

Yeah because obviously bankrupt, biblethumping america with a 5 times larger prison population than communist China, 14,5 trillion dollars below the red line, 1 in 7 americans living below the international standards of poverty, surviving on Foodstamps... You guys know best dont you.

[azzh00le]

@Janusha You can pull ambiguous statistics out of your ass all you want, I'm going by what I've witnessed and people I've known, I never said we were perfect. Like I said, if we're so evil just stay where you are and quit getting worked up about it. I pulled myself out of a world of shit I was in as a result of bad choices I made, and now I'm doing just fine and with ZERO government help. You're right the war on drugs was a failure and too many are imprisoned as a result of it.

[Janusha]

@azzh00le

Hahaha saying you are doing just fine without government help is like saying you dont need a helmet because you arent going to crash anyway. What are you paying all those taxes for when you have NO rights. NO benefits. NOTHING for free. No free education, no free healthcare, no job security. Your position in your society isnt guaranteed. What exactly are you paying tax for then ?

[Janusha]

As for my "ambiguous facts" I know obviously americans wont take a foreigners word for anything so I read them from your own countrys official numbers.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha -Horseshit you idiot, Conservative and Liberal are 2 concepts completely understood in other countries like Britain for example! I'm sure to you anybody ideologically to the right of Chairman Mao qualifies as "ultraconservative." The drug cartels will always be able to obtain firearms however that's no excuse for the PRESIDENT arming them for political subterfuge!

[Janusha]

@Stomp

What Im saying is.. left wing, right wing, from here your entire continent looks ultra conservative. Which is normal in times of recession such as it is... But if you are going to be freakshow conservative then atleast make sure what you have is worth conserving.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - The only "freak show" going on now is the Obama Administration....

[Janusha]

@StompingRabbits

Well... Its not like the administration changes much. Americans going round the world bombing third world shitholes for their "insurgents" and their oil, preaching democracy while at home you got 2 political parties which is marginally better than a dictatorship which has 1. Your 2 parties are there to give you the ILLUSION of choice while in reality its the same people year after year. Your elections are just about who gets to be famous for 4 years. Not what policies to use.

[Janusha]

Your 2 parties are there to give you the ILLUSION of opposition. While in reality these people visit the same countryclubs. In modern countries the entire government is changed out for each presidency so that new ideas can form. The way your 2 dominating parties effectivelly squish out any fresh blood trying to enter the scene, nothing less than a revolution would get some fresh thinking, new ideas into the US government.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - That's not entirely true! The United States isn't a pure Democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic! Pure Democracy is mob rule! Oil is of mas importance, what are the alternatives? You forget to mention the good that America has done around the World, like disaster relief and defeating the NAZIS! The two party system does have problems and shortcomings agreed but it's not an "illusion" of choice, we can vote politicians out if we don't like their agendas! Policy is indeed a factor!~

[Janusha]

@StompingRabbits

Yeah I know USA isnt strictly a democracy.. In a democracy you are free to vote for you own choice of political parties and subsequent policies whereas in america you are forced to choose between the 2 you are presented with. Your options are biblethumping desperately conservative or biblethumping desperately conservative. Behind the scenes, its the same people year after year regardless. Your elections are just about who gets to run the show and be famous for the next 4 years.

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - Oh pleeeease spare me! You're not forced to chose between two parties here, we do indeed have 3rd parties, it's just that they can't compete against the 2 big parties! Most Americans consider a 3rd party vote to be a waste of a vote but there is no "force" involved, you are free to waste your vote on an obscure party if you want! At any rate, this is about the U.S. Federal government illegally running firearms to Mexican drug cartels and the death of a Federal agent due to it!

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - "That far?" Obama & Holder are responsible for the deaths caused by firearms they supplied illegally to Mexican drug gangs! That is indeed a serious felony and an impeachable offense! Manufacturing firearms in the United States is not illegal provided you have all the proper permits from Government! What is very illegal is providing firearms to Mexican drug gangs and what is absolutely unconscionable is when the Mexican gangsters use them against our border agents! This is a FELONY!

[lovejen01]

@Janusha most people killed by gun violence in this country are mostly criminals on criminals and random acts but knuckle heads onto innocent by standers.

Why the Mexicans weren't told because NObama why hoping the fast and furious he could use this to prove the gun problem comes from this country so he can commit treason by abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Bah.. bullshit. Show me ONE country where people dont get killed by american guns. This is just ridiculous. Doesnt matter where the gun came from. Its not like they have problems buying their own american made guns. If one of their bullits happened to find an american target... So fucking what. Thats what guns do isnt it. Regardless of who sold it or who built it. American peaked at 30 000 gun related deaths a year. Which is most likely 100 times more than any other civilized nation.

[lovejen01]

@Janusha yes it does matter were the guns come form you don't see that NObama is trying to use this to abolish the 2nd Amd. The fact is the guns in most of the in Mexico come from other countries. I know lot people die from gun fire in the U.S. the thing is made out to be that law biding citizens are at fault when the fault are the ones who break the law and a weak justice system.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Most things in Mexico isnt made in Mexico you bewildered flagwaving fool. Do you take it to the president every time some nigger shoots another nigger on a street corner too ? Or every time a liquer store owner shoots some hooded burglar ? Someone sold him the gun too youknow. You are just using any excuse to discredit a politician you disagree with instead of applying some god damn logic. When you are living in a gun-nation, youre gonna have to deal with consequences.

[lovejen01]

@Janusha numb nuts you need to read more carefully and comprehend what has been said. I did not say most thing are made in Mexico, i said was the guns in Mexico come from other countries besides the U.S. I don't blame NObama for every crime did not say that either. I'm not discredit any politician they are doing fien on there own. I believe in my rights unlike you, you have to remember there always consequence regardless on what type society we live in past, present and future.

[lovejen01]

@lovejen01 Another thing numb nuts do you know why the non-Nazi did not revolt against Hitler and can look this up he took the right to bear arms from the people.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Yeah I know what you said and your logic is flawed. Simple as that. This little NObama bullshit you are flagging, isnt clever or witty. Just makes you seem like some freakshow teaparty activist. Are americans able to say ONE sentence about politics without having to pull out the old nazi and communist card ? Look up Goodwins law of nazi analogies.

[lovejen01]

@Janusha why don't look at some of the policies that NObama and the liberals push and compare to the Nazi politics.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Liberals, democrats, you call it what you like... its all biblethumping and desperately conservative from here.

Again... read up on Goodwins law of nazi analogies.

/watch?v=BfDCwP2SnI4

[lovejen01]

@Janusha i put to this way if they stop pushing similar or same legislation and running the country this i'll stop calling them Nazis. Unlike you i believe in way life and Constitution. The thing is ATF scandal is on the president and the death of those Border Patrol Agents. Also you don't realize had FBI and ATF go in Mexico without permission to enforce the law. Which is completely immoral, also grounds for war. Most like that what happen.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Nazi, communist, socialist... its all the same to you frantically flagwaving bewildered fools isnt it.

[lovejen01]

@Janusha if that is how you want to look at, the facts speak for themselves and for some reason pays attention. If don't like the flag waving, Constitution, american way of life always move to some country is communist and socialist.

[Janusha]

@lovejen01

Im saying the american way... The pathologic aversion towards any foreign influence and firm belief in your own superiority regardless of staggering evidence to the contrary, clouds your vision and from here looks incredibly narcissistic and naive.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha JEALOUS?

[Janusha]

@Free

Its so fucking hillarious when you bewildered flagwaving fools start talking about jealousy. Jealous of what exactly ? Your failed car industry that went bankrupt and moved to asia? Your 1 in 6 americans today living below the international standdardsf or poverty? Your 1 in 40 americans in the prison system? Infact 1 in 4 prisoners around the world are american. Your ridiculous social structure and desperately conservative biblethumping politicians. Congratulations on these achievements.

[Janusha]

What I find amazing is that these illusions of grandeour inspite of staggering evidence to the contrary is the norm over there.. You.. as bewildered and naive as you are, are no minority. You guys are ALL fucking mental. Living in your own bubble of uneducated blissful ignorance of what goes on out there. And still today... With your failed economy, Asia bled you dry and Europe passed you in everything, all your big words and hostility falls so flat to the ground out of todays bankrupt america.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha Hitler was no fan of religion or GOD unless he was the god to be worshiped. You are full of shit, but at least your are consistent...LOL!

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - That's nonsense, people don't get "killed by American guns" you scoundrel, people get killed by murderers! You're just ridiculous, nobody is forcing anyone to buy "American guns" furthermore America is not the only country on Earth with firearms manufacturers! Free men are free to carry arms, if you can't keep a firearm then you aren't a free citizen, you are a subject you dope! Free men having the right to bear arms is a corner stone of Western Civilization dating back to Rome! 

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - Bah...Bullshit, your momma dipshit! Show me ONE firearm that shoots and kills all by itself? Huh smart ass? Guns don't murder, people murder, you retard! Why do you keep saying "American made guns" over and over? Are you not aware that many countries have firearms manufacturers including but not limited to Italy, Germany, Britain, Belgium, France, China, Russia just to name a few? Freedom requires responsibility, get a grip!

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - If the amount of firearm related deaths in the United States has your balls in an uproar then you are free never to visit here! If you are already here then you are free to leave, that's what freedom is about idiot and free men are free to bear arms! Go jump in a lake you moron!

[StompingRabbits]

@Janusha - This is so special because the firearm used to murder the Federal Border Agent was supplied by Obama and Company, this is proven by the serial number on the firearm! Obama and Company are accomplices to murder and that makes it "special."

The Mexicans where part of the operation, it was a scam to frame American gun store owners and to propagandize for the dismantling the Second Amendment! It was a political FRAUD that Mexico took part in!

Guns don't kill, people kill.....

[Janusha]

@StompingRabbits

Back to rome.. Oh fuck dont we just love it when americans try to be all clever and shit with history. Europe is where history comes from dude.. even your history. This AMERICA VS THE WOOOORLD attitude does little for you these days. Whether the topic is economy, manufacturing, cars, politics or whatever it is, its always about waving that flag and discrediting any oposition rather than applying logic and sense. Look around... What does america know or DO best anymore. Not alot.

[Janusha]

USA had its day in the sun while Europe were recovering from 2 world wars that USA largely escaped. It only took you guys 2 generations to forget who your grandparents were. Today as Europe is prospering with the EU and the Euro, its amazing to see how increasingly left behind USA emerges. Held back by their desperately conservative biblethumping politics and ancient ways. All those big words might have gone down well in the 60s but fall a bit flat to the ground in todays bankrupt america.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha "Arent people killed by US guns every single day of the year by the thousands"

NO, most all of it is from illegal aliens and drug gangs. 2 to 5 million use a gun for self protection every year.

Does Norway have a mass shooting everyday?

[Janusha]

@FreedomsPatriot

Do arabs fly into your houses every day? USA peaked at some 30 000 gun related killings a year. Thats like 100 times higher than any civilized country. There are 25 million guns in circulation in currently in USA and name 1 year that USA hasnt been involved with war. Making such a fuzz over 1 god damn gun that got out of hand is ridiculous. Some of your frantically flagwaving fools will die for the right to have their guns. You insist on a gun culture, then live with it.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha You idiot, try asking me this questions if I lived in Israel with over 10,000 suicide bombers to date ?.... and remember dumbass, the US has over 300 MILLION people, 20 million in illegal aliens and hundreds of thousands of the poorest, non educated and most dangerous criminal gangs everyday!!!! Our own president ignores the war in Mexico with twice the murder rate than the US, where ALL GUNS ARE BANNED. Entire police force of 26 quit in one day last week.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha 2006 Total crimes (per capita) Norway: 71.9 per 1,000 people U.S. 80.1 per 1,000 people

nationmaster com/compare/Norway/United-Stat­es

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha You are so full of shit! IN 2006, US ranked 7th in the world.

"There are 25 million guns in circulation in currently in USA " MORE SHIT than FACTS>

You moron, there is over 250 million firearms in the US. Why do you think Admiral Yamamoto told the Imperial Forces of Japan in 1938 that an invasion of the US is impossible, because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass!

The US has an INSTANT self armed militia of a possible 250M people and VERY WELL ARMED!

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha "name 1 year that USA hasnt been involved with war"

name 1 year that rest of the cowardly world feed Africa or anything else liberating to any oppressed people. Saddam is dead, Bin Laden is dead, Hitler is dead...The US is thousands of times the most generous and fairest nation to ever exist on the face of the planet...EVER!! People break IN to live in the US while being slaughtered in the own muslin nation.

GOD has chosen years ago who represents his might through..

[Janusha]

@FreedomsPatriot

Hitler? This is exactly the naivety and stupidity im talking about. That somehow we OWE americans the right to run around the world bombing third world shitholes for their "insurgents" and their oil because america freed Europe from the nazis. This is ridiculous. First of all it was the Russians that did most of the chasing nazis out of Europe business regardless of what your war movies will tell you. Saving Private Ryan forexample. Great movie and a true story.

[Janusha]

Except it was an all british operation. The Russians got hitler by the way. No americans came to my country. Saddam and Bin Laden were YOUR creations. In the 80s CIA didnt like the previous leader of Iraq so they put Saddam Hussein in power instead. 1989 to 1992 CIA gave tens of billions of dollars to Afghan rebels to fight the russians. The Muhajedin, later became Taliban and AlQuaida. Allowing the rise of Bin Ladin... On CIA money and CIA training.

[Janusha]

Then you pay Pakistan 10 billion dollars so they will oppose Taliban and AlQuaida... And where was Osama found? In Pakistan. Also the Bin Ladin oil rich family were heavily involved with investments with your own god damn president.. Thats not even a conspiracy theory. It sounds to wild to be true but shockingly it isnt.

To get Osama and Saddam, you spent 10 years and 1,6 trillion dollars, killed 1,8 million people bankrupted your country. Your countrys politics is a biblethumping freakshow.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha You have proven your ignorance by changing subjects rather than answer any with real answers. Just educate yourself on real history instead of idiot false internet urban legends and bull shit from socialists. Almost 200 million people have died from just their own government last century AFTER they disarmed them. Just consider that for a while and learn something for a chance.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha We LET the Russians in first, and a big mistake. We had to feed thousands by air everyday while the Russia built walls!

Saddam begged the CIA for assistance & info so he could rise to power politically and execute his opposition. He just choose the US then and latter choose the USSR for WMD's ready to use on the Kurds. The US gave stinger missiles (not B$) to the North. Alliance (Mujahedin), NOT the Taliban Dumbass. N. Alliance fought the Taliban until Bin Laden assassinated leader.

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha Are yoiu that ignorant of Hitler and his National Socialist Party?

GUNCONTROL- Obama has tried to regulate Gov. to control everything, made huge debt., propaganda Czars in place without judicial vetting & blocking FOX news, openly pushing socialist ideology & congressional bribery, Pushing guns to Mexican drug cartels & falsely claiming it as a reason for gun control vie. UN while federal officials claim ignorance.

Liberal "HITLER DETECTORS" have cried wolf too long to recognize one!

[FreedomsPatriot]

@Janusha SO much ignorance, so little room...

OIL is a great reason for WAR, there is no life without it dumbass!

How much oil have we taken or land while your piss ant country riots for more freebies?

We saved Europe, granted decades interest free loans recently payed back. Russia was Hitlers best ally and already planned to take the other half of Europe Germany allotted them UNTIL Hitler betrayed Stallion via. operation Barbarossa & invaded USSR, who killed 80 million of their people before!

[badattitude77769]

@Janusha Millions of Americans own guns for sport, hunting, etc. and do not harm another; selling guns to cartels is pure evil, if you sold a gun to a drug cartel, you would be in prison.

[Janusha]

@badattitude77769

Perhaps you think drug cartels walk around with a sign on them saying "drug cartel" If people in the gun business never sold guns to people of questionable orign, they wouldnt make alot of business.

[Janusha]

@badattitude77769

Yeah well... as unrealistic as that sounds, I wasnt talking about your friend and his gunshop was I.

[99cacahuate]

@Janusha are you a tea party menber???

[Janusha]

@99cacahuate

Hell no.

[ECwashr]

This was obama's idea to impose gun restrictions. "Look here, the USA has sooo many guns they are showing up in mexico, we have to do something about this". Yea we do, IMPEACH!!

[Janusha]

@ECwashr

haha americans and their infinite naivety....

[ECwashr]

You can bet this goes all the way to obama and holder, they HAD TO APPROVE of this. No way some ATF supervisor made this decision on his own. WHAT will it take before our Senators stand up and IMPEACH or ARREST this USURPER TRAITOR??

[LesPaulCustom79]

IMPEACH THE GODDAMNED LAW BREAKERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND PUT THE ATF DUMBSHITS IN JAIL!!!

[deltaalpha21074]

@MrBloograss YUP sounds like the days of VIETNAM HEY YOu hate Aermica YES YES ok we ar Soviet UNION we shall send million of AK-47s and if things go really well Surface to Air missles...Same goes for this BS on the border suprised they didn;t send few Tanks and Bazookas..all to keep this game going...they cannot be this bad...unbelievable..hell they could have just hired one dumb wetback and said they all got stolen...he stole the truck and sold them all to his buddies.

[deltaalpha21074]

Probably ;they love this shit; hell they would be sending Grenades and Bazookas to keep this so called war going ..why to line thier pockets and get more BS! DHS contracts on cameras and equipment hell no big surprise to me...surprise they did not tell media what to say like some maniac sold guns to CARTEL for a million dollars...ATF makes no sense ...none! They cannot be this insane..why not just send land mines and Mortars???

[deltaalpha21074]

Probably ;they love this shti hell they would be sending Grenades and Bazzokas to keep this so called war going ..why to line thier pockets and get more BS DHS contracts on cameras and equipkment hell no big surprise to me...surprise they did not tell media what to say like some maniac sold guns to CARTEL for a million dollars...ATF makes no sense ...none!

[FreedomsPatriot]

Many should go to prison now!

[pnktout]

6:35 :) 

[MrDaleaaaa]

this is the deffenition of treason in the constitution conspirering against the people of the usa.thses people take oaths backing the oath means you purjered yourself.they are allways on cya mode obama wanted the violence for his campain against the peoples rights.they need it for propaganda they should be exstadited to mexico as murders

[MrDaleaaaa]

 this is the deffenition of treason in the constitution conspirering against the people of the usa.thses people take oaths backing the oath means you purjered yourself.they are allways on cya mode obama wanted the violence for his campain against the peoples rights.they need it for propaganda

[MrDaleaaaa]

this is the deffenition of treason in the constitution conspirering against the people of the usa.thses people take oaths backing the oath means you purjered yourself.

[eysofastrnjr]

Ill be surprised if if they ever do away with prohibition, theres to much money in it. keep in mind,None of the plants where the drugs come from have evil effects in thier natural and safe to put in your body intheir natural plant form until they get into the hands of men and turned into unnatural potent forms which then becomes poison in your body. All these plants were meant to serve a purpose in their natural form.Look what man has done with sex and the destruction it causes when abused.

[SKYfox911]

6:20, 6:25. Neither of those AK variants were a Romanian Model. But I'm a picky gun nut lol Good video. Thanks for posting

[jspecaspec23]

Support Obama you support murder

y o u t u . b e / _ x 0 d n A V T 5 h c

[HUTCHtopher]

Support the NRA

[iiixisa]

stop, STOP selling and sending arms to the drug dealers you Morons!!!!!

[yourtuber8541]

Are we feeding these people guns so they can destroy one another? Then offer to go in and "help" for resources or monopoly deals on the market? WTF is going on?!

[pkpapers]

Why is MMM silent? Because progressives (98% of MA Journalism awardees) know very well it is necessary to eliminate 2nd amendment rights in order for a poweful and well-funded politically correct system to be established in the US which will obey international protocals established by experts on political correctness.

[backrubs62]

@pkpapers the answer is easy. the main stream media is in bed with this administration.

I have only seen these reports on Fox and CBS. the others, cnn, nbc, abc, msnbc all on the tank for obama

[ymp5000]

This is the most despicable act I think I have ever seen a presidential administration engage in. seeing as how the Obama admin. is now talking about ramping up gun control laws through executive order and other “non-legislative” means I have no doubt that Operation Gunwalker was devised to create a received need for further restricting our 2nd amendment rights.

[ChecklTheGameolMate]

take down the ATF and take the guns as weapons against bigger agencies. sounds easy enough right? too bad we are the definition of a depressed nation. what happens when you become depressed? you sleep a lot.

[yourmomlied69]

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[awakenedblckteen1991]

END the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms Explosive and Everything Sharp(BATFECES)!!! DEFUND BATFECES!! They are anti gun gestapo agents whose goal is to ban guns! I hope this scandal takes them down and they should lose funding at once!

[MrPissonyourgrave]

They need to shout this from the rooftops, they are trying to destroy this country.

[Yojimbo707]

Carlos Pascual is a terrorist like his partners in Florida and Cuba

[BoldReiver]

For a long time I believed the ATF needed reform, now I truly believe its a runaway train and needs to be disbanded! There are plenty of other Law Enforcement organizations that already do the same work (in a more legit manner) than as the ATF.

[Kerogas]

Google " institutional perjury" and consider what you might pay for search results like that , then consider what you would do to your managers if it were your company so prominantly represented in those search results . I'd fire every last one of the capetbagging sons of bitches .

[tacticoolzombie]

Obama is lettting the guns run into mexico to get the numbers of american guns used in mexican crimes to go up...why ? youa sk....as an excuse for further gun control !

[MrSteveParr]

@tacticoolzombie

You nailed it my friend!

[stephenabm]

The ATF should be eliminated, as it is riddled with corruption and does not follow its own laws. There are many law abiding citizens in prison due to unlawful tactics and menacing. I am outraged!

[ceomeye]

the reason there is no outcry is because the government keeps you in fear.... and also because its good business trading arms in not only mexico but all over the freaking world.... mexico is not new.... the U.S CIA and others trade arms all over the world and someone is getting rich on the killing of people.....

[gobiernopodrido]

the us gov. supply guns to drug cartels to have an excuse to invade Mexico like the 911 excuse to invade irak ...

[sjr341]

Politicians want our second amendment abolished. BATFE are instructed not to act so that in the end, the only so-called "solution" would be to disarm all of America.

[deadman12078]

I've been going to the wrong gunshop.

[rawdawg15]

They did this so they could pass restrictive gun laws. Everything worked, the gun shop owners knew what was happening...so you don't need more restrictive laws. you just need more competent leadership in the DOJ

[pfizzbones]

I can tell how this ends. Fact is our ATF now is selling the weapons to Mexican drug cartels. The average American patriot is demonized by this administration, saying that WE are the problem with guns in Mexico. Hence, the legislation of tracking our purchases near the border, which will lead to tracking our gun purchases across the nation. It ends like this....If the government is going to deal with this, they will blame the American citizen and our 2nd Amendment will be fully targeted.

[patriotim12]

@pfizzbones I agree 100%.

[DontTread0nMe1776]

ATF, IRS, CIA, DHS, what do they all have in common? Unconstitutional alphabet soup organizations that should be abolished immediately.

[jbranstetter04]

@DontTread0nMe1776 The CIA will never be abolished. Are you aware that during the Revolutionary war we had secret agents working on behalf of the Patriots? We had, we have, and we will always have a need for secret agents in this country. I for one am not out to commit suicide as a country. It is a very dangerous world that we live in, and there are people, groups, and countries who would see us destroyed. It is only fear mongering if there is nothing to fear.

[wyattherb23]

@jbranstetter04 TO BAD 98 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY ARE NOT NEAR AS INTELLIGENT AS YOU...

[jbranstetter04]

@wyattherb23 I hope you're being serious and not playing with me. It's just that some people believe that we can just sit here in our own great country and that no one will ever want to destroy us. They think that we have the option of waiting until they are at our doorstep to defend ourselves. But that is not how the world works nowadays. They had nothing even close to a nuclear bomb when George Washington wrote his Farewell Address. We can mind our own business, but we must stay alert.

[StompingRabbits]

@jbranstetter04 - It may never be abolished but it has been compromised, Leon Panetta is said to have ties to known Communists!

[vashguud]

Some ATF need to go to jail over this. It's illegal to do this.. one felony count per gun to all involved but the whistle blowers.

[gobiernopodrido]

@vashguud the order of supply drug cartels with guns come from top power orders make the math =