This must've been a long time ago, since among those japanese best... Momochi, tokido, uryo, dashio, kyabetsu, mizoteru, kindevu and a HANDFUL of players weren't recognized at the time.
Interesting to see how little difference there is from one Wiiyu spammer to the next when you put them side by side, irrespective of how much smoke one may get blown up his bony b-hind.
@SquishyAgate Yes. And the reason it's called 'zoning' is because it SOUNDS less scrubby than spamming - what it literally is. It's to preserve the reputation of these so called 'pros', for they're put on a pedestal in this game & calling them 'pro spammers' isn't exactly flattering.
Abusing a move because of its hard-to-circumvent nature is by definition SPAMMING. You can use whatever euphemism you like, but the fact remains. If overcoming this tactic were so easy, it wouldn't be used - fact.
@Sablicious he uses zoning to keep his area. it's not like he's running away & throwing fireballs, he's doing it to keep his distance to give him time to preform his next move. either that, or he wants his opponent to come after him.
either way--gotta do what you gotta do to win. there's a way around everything.
@SquishyAgate If there was "a way around everything" in SFIV, you'd see more than just the 'Scrubby 6' (Sagat, Ryu, Akuma, Balrog, Rufus, Able) used in tournies.
Moreover, you wouldn't see a thousand FBs thrown per round and throws whored every time someone's rote pattern doesn't work.
@Sablicious you have a point, but thats where tiers come into play.
I main Ken, & i make him look better than people would expect, however i play on a controller, so inputs come out correct like 75% of the time. my poor ass can't afford an arcade stick, then again i play so good on a dpad i'm considering a fight pad other than the stick. You got 360?
@SquishyAgate You can have my TE stick if you like 'cause fight games are spiraling to a scrubby place I don't want to be dragged down too! -_-
*Have PSN and Live, but the Ps3 is heading for a full refund as the on-line is garbage, both connection -and- competition-wise. Even the spammer extraordinaire himself, Daigo ('gameinn') is on Live... lol! xD
@SquishyAgate If the thing didn't function for PC, you probably would be in luck!
But given I wouldn't have brought it if it had been a strictly 360-only controller, the point is sorta moot.
At any rate, you can pick 'em up a lot cheaper now. I've seen 'em around for like half what I got it for. Moreover, you don't actually need a TE stick, a standard edition is just fine as command inputs in SFIV are designed for control PADS, and thus are Wii-easy to execute.
@Sablicious Picking a character doesn't make you a scrub, bitching about tactics you don't know how to get around and don't bother trying to learn makes you a scrub.
@SAlpsu Picking a broken training wheels character and spamming the same Wii level, rote repetition ad nausem is the very definition of being a 'scrub'.
Just 'cause one may win doesn't necessarily make them a GOOD PLAYER in game with as many shortcomings as SF4 - fact.
@Sablicious There are no broken characters in SF4, they're all fairly close, except Dan, and he's not meant to be. If anyone's repeating moves ad nauseam, they're not going to win, unless they're playing against someone even worse.
@SAlpsu Indeed. For example, Daigo is a better SPAMMER than most his opponents.
Couple this with the fact Wiiyu is near broken in how he has no real bad match-ups (compared to other characters, some of who have most of the roster going against them!) in a game that is as match-up and spam-centric as any fight-game ever made, and you've got Gaygo Umehado!
@Sablicious Does it matter if he spams? Not really. Playing a game competitively means doing what it takes to win and Ryu has amazingly good fireballs. Daigo plays to win, not look flashy. He plays bare bones SF. If you can't figure out a way past the projectiles, who's fault is that? Certainly not his
@Sablicious Other fireball characters can cancel out Ryu's, give yourself super armor, characters like Zangief, Balrog, Abel, (to name a few) have moves that can go completely through fireballs and potentially punish Ryu. Bottom line is that this is the way the game is played. When Daigo played 3rd Strike, he didn't spam Hadoukens because they weren't good in that game. They're good in this one, so why shouldn't he use them to their full abilities?
@Sablicious I'll be more inclined to believe you when you're a multi-time world champ in the game like he is. Fact of the matter remains that hadou-zoning is the best way to play Ryu in SF4. Why give yourself a handicap by taking away your best move? Be flashy for the sake of random internet comment posters and risk losing? Yeah, right
The "best way" to play SF, or any fight-game, is to NOT pick the top tier, near-broken characters & spam hard-to-circumvent, rote patterns
It's this attitude that makes gams like SF4 the bore fests they are - peeps play only to win, not to get better. They chose characters & use play styles - no matter how face-palm boring - that are most likely to win. Hence 25% of onliners being Ryus/Kens
At least MK9 looks to buck this trend with its diverse roster & fun-looking gameplay
@Sablicious Ryu comes in about 6th on this tier list, which is high, but not broken. Again, many characters have ways to get past the fireballs, so it sounds to me like you're trying to justify your own inability to breakthrough on Ryu's alleged brokenness. The reason you see a bunch of Ryu/Ken players is because they're so familiar, being series staples for the past 20 years. And MK9? Mortal Kombat hasn't been relevant to anything pertaining to competitive fighting games in like, 7 years
@KingofKH Naturally you wouldn't want to hear the realities of your precious.dumbed down 'Shoto fighter IV'.
Why would you want something you pump so much time into honing your scrubbery presented as the two-move spam fest it in actuality is?
PS: lol @ the recent usage/BP/win-loss data on Japanese SF4 players - Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sagat and Gaygo's new cheese spammer Yun making up the top 5! xD
Have fun with your Gen Wii brawler - the SF series has been dead to hardcore players since SFIII.
@Sablicious That's why your supposed to utilse all of your characters attributes and abilities to avoid them like other fireballs focus attacks and jumping. Some of the characters are over and underpowered but if you know that then simply pick the one's that aren't and if you can't avoid something simple like fireballs then that's simply your fault. Try practicing or watching videos like this one to conjour up some strategies against it.
@Sablicious oh so mortal kombat is scrub free hmm so freeze-upercut spear-upercut his not scrub tastic right? at least street fighter doesn't have charcter's with projectile's that immobilize their opponents completly for a free combo you should know by now that mortal kombat is and always be in street fighter's shadow.
@Rapthorne54 No. MK's been an utter turd gameplay-wise since day dot. However, its roster, narrative, design, presentaiton far surpass SF's.
Having said that, there are no more 'hardcore' fighting games any more--they died with coin-hungry arcades--only HARDCORE PLAYERS. As such, any game can be played in a hardcore fashion; from your generic shovelware FPS Halos to SF. This, however, does not make the GAME hardcore, only its followers.
All games are, at their core, casual now. Thank Nintendo.
This is why MK2011 looks like it may be superior to SF & its rehashes - it actually looks FUN.
SF4 is not fun. Outside of the satisfaction derived from winning, there's little to enjoy in a game that promotes & rewards rote pattern spamming & limited character abuse.
SF4 is an entry-level fighting game made primarily to move units in this era of casual gaming, & it shows.
At least MK is TRYING to improve & give gamers what they want, not just stuff a pacifier in their faces.
@Sablicious I doubt it. i mean street fighter always brings in new strategies and combos while staying true to the nature of the game. And it always comes up with something different to its style of gameplay in every series its come out in. mortal kombat's only done that maybe once or twice, besides have you even seen mortal kombat being registered as a competitive tournament level game? perhaps the new mk may be a better game but that remains to be seen, and until then [s]sf4 remains supreme.
@Sablicious like mortal kombat is so much more advanced. mash out random combos pick sub-zero or scorpion because their's no way you can win without continuosly abusing those immobilizing projectiles to get a free combo. At least you have to work for your win in this game besides those tactics work on scrubs not pros. Your probably complaining cause it happens to you and you don't know what to do so you just rant about it instead of simply trying to get better am i right?
@Rapthorne54 Cancer upon scrub Gen Wii gamer trolls who spam comments on YouTube profiles then block who they spam so they don't get the same back.
Cancer in your mother's whore slut hole. If you meet me, the last image you see will be your tiny, throbbing rodent heart in my hand as I devour it. Pray this is the last correspondence you receive on pain of your worthless, waste-of-space life.
@Sablicious oooohhhh death threats to anonomys users. like i'll ever see you let alone could you defeat me you pathetic troll if you fought me the last thing you'd ever see would be the flies buzzing over your rotting corpse but i digress its been fun playing with you but i've got better things to do then sit here and messege you all day about your dipshit trolling and lack of brain power that you obviously can't obtain.
@Rapthorne54 If you ask me mortal kombat is much more boring then this but to each his own i guess....Besides its not going to be anything special im sure just the same old shit.
go fuck yourself you fag.And i hope murdoc from gorillaz burn your little ass to hell where satan will lick you and your dick.Suck it whore go proststute on the streets with your fat tits Chill out you retarded little ass hat.You are a mean bastard with no friends^^
get a life go watch disney cartoons oh wait you might hate disney never mind my sweet big fat ignorant shit. the reason why you hate king of fighters and street fighter so much is because you suck at fighting games.
is this potato or camera?
tw1s 1 week ago
HAUDOUKEN HAUDOUKEN HAUDOUKEN HAUDOUKEN HAUDOUKEN HAUDOUKEN
PEKKA860 2 weeks ago
in all the video, i only heard: HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEEEEEEEEEN!!!!
xD
vaunpezyfrenaenseco 2 weeks ago
Daigo wins finally...nobody can defeat him?
ucs680903 2 weeks ago
nevermind
JakariHanma 3 weeks ago
Which ones Daigo? Blue?
JakariHanma 3 weeks ago
i thought daigo is the beast
k1ller2one 1 month ago
there is no japanese player better than daigo
cmolodiets 1 month ago
@cmolodiets In 3rd strike there are plenty better than him.
DriftHero77 1 month ago
HADOUKEN!!!
arthas1100 1 month ago
This shit is so boring,HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN.
Omfg
TheMarkofthor 2 months ago
240p we meet again...
pXFr0st 2 months ago 20
@pXFr0st wow haven't seen this written on every 240p video out there. Very original.
garrymcnaney 2 months ago
chunli is one hell of a sexy bitch
fireinhole0 3 months ago
mugen sound quality
850iStyle 3 months ago
Hadouken, hadouken, hadouken...
Patolini007 3 months ago
0:47 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE ULTIMATE STREAND THE BATTLE CONTINUES
zekiramasterdragon 4 months ago
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zekiramasterdragon 4 months ago
damn those 2 nerds below me going hard they both probalby 130 pounds each and havent seen the sun in months.
iludmik 1 year ago
i feel this guy daigo goes into his ultra mood when he is losing lol
clients26 1 year ago
i have to say viper intended to lose, he could of win the sec and third round
him118 1 year ago
Daigo's face when he loses: -_-
Daigo's face when he ties: -_-
Daigo's face when he wins: -_-
dragonfistX200 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This must've been a long time ago, since among those japanese best... Momochi, tokido, uryo, dashio, kyabetsu, mizoteru, kindevu and a HANDFUL of players weren't recognized at the time.
TheGosu 1 year ago
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TheGosu 1 year ago
Damnit I wish I could speak Japanese
Fatalxx1 1 year ago
I'm a boy did pretty well. I don't know his name, sorry.
bahaanaldo 1 year ago
very good matches
shunyu2 1 year ago
I like the way that C viper dude played Viper ftw
Anime4Life35 2 years ago 2
Interesting to see how little difference there is from one Wiiyu spammer to the next when you put them side by side, irrespective of how much smoke one may get blown up his bony b-hind.
Sablicious 2 years ago
@Sablicious it's called zoning for a reason. there's a difference.
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@SquishyAgate Yes. And the reason it's called 'zoning' is because it SOUNDS less scrubby than spamming - what it literally is. It's to preserve the reputation of these so called 'pros', for they're put on a pedestal in this game & calling them 'pro spammers' isn't exactly flattering.
Abusing a move because of its hard-to-circumvent nature is by definition SPAMMING. You can use whatever euphemism you like, but the fact remains. If overcoming this tactic were so easy, it wouldn't be used - fact.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious he uses zoning to keep his area. it's not like he's running away & throwing fireballs, he's doing it to keep his distance to give him time to preform his next move. either that, or he wants his opponent to come after him.
either way--gotta do what you gotta do to win. there's a way around everything.
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@SquishyAgate If there was "a way around everything" in SFIV, you'd see more than just the 'Scrubby 6' (Sagat, Ryu, Akuma, Balrog, Rufus, Able) used in tournies.
Moreover, you wouldn't see a thousand FBs thrown per round and throws whored every time someone's rote pattern doesn't work.
The proof of the pudding's in the sour tasting.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious you have a point, but thats where tiers come into play.
I main Ken, & i make him look better than people would expect, however i play on a controller, so inputs come out correct like 75% of the time. my poor ass can't afford an arcade stick, then again i play so good on a dpad i'm considering a fight pad other than the stick. You got 360?
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@SquishyAgate You can have my TE stick if you like 'cause fight games are spiraling to a scrubby place I don't want to be dragged down too! -_-
*Have PSN and Live, but the Ps3 is heading for a full refund as the on-line is garbage, both connection -and- competition-wise. Even the spammer extraordinaire himself, Daigo ('gameinn') is on Live... lol! xD
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious kudos to you. & if you send it to me via mail, i'll appreciate it. [:
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@SquishyAgate dictionary[dot]reference[dot]com/browse/facetious
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious lol i know you weren't being serious.
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@SquishyAgate If the thing didn't function for PC, you probably would be in luck!
But given I wouldn't have brought it if it had been a strictly 360-only controller, the point is sorta moot.
At any rate, you can pick 'em up a lot cheaper now. I've seen 'em around for like half what I got it for. Moreover, you don't actually need a TE stick, a standard edition is just fine as command inputs in SFIV are designed for control PADS, and thus are Wii-easy to execute.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious oh i know, i just want something i can put on a cabinet with no shift when i'm goin crazy on the stick.
SquishyAgate 1 year ago
@Sablicious this is about that scrubby 6. you spelled abel wrong... doesn't matter that much but it somewhat bothers me D:
noobpwnager 1 year ago
@noobpwnager Sorry, 'DisAble'.
My bad ^_-
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious lol. much better XD
noobpwnager 1 year ago
@Sablicious Picking a character doesn't make you a scrub, bitching about tactics you don't know how to get around and don't bother trying to learn makes you a scrub.
SAlpsu 1 year ago 8
@SAlpsu Picking a broken training wheels character and spamming the same Wii level, rote repetition ad nausem is the very definition of being a 'scrub'.
Just 'cause one may win doesn't necessarily make them a GOOD PLAYER in game with as many shortcomings as SF4 - fact.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious There are no broken characters in SF4, they're all fairly close, except Dan, and he's not meant to be. If anyone's repeating moves ad nauseam, they're not going to win, unless they're playing against someone even worse.
SAlpsu 1 year ago
@SAlpsu Indeed. For example, Daigo is a better SPAMMER than most his opponents.
Couple this with the fact Wiiyu is near broken in how he has no real bad match-ups (compared to other characters, some of who have most of the roster going against them!) in a game that is as match-up and spam-centric as any fight-game ever made, and you've got Gaygo Umehado!
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious Does it matter if he spams? Not really. Playing a game competitively means doing what it takes to win and Ryu has amazingly good fireballs. Daigo plays to win, not look flashy. He plays bare bones SF. If you can't figure out a way past the projectiles, who's fault is that? Certainly not his
DevilNinja900 1 year ago
@DevilNinja900 If the game doesn't give the other characters tools to get past his projectiles, who's fault is that? Certainly not mine.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious Other fireball characters can cancel out Ryu's, give yourself super armor, characters like Zangief, Balrog, Abel, (to name a few) have moves that can go completely through fireballs and potentially punish Ryu. Bottom line is that this is the way the game is played. When Daigo played 3rd Strike, he didn't spam Hadoukens because they weren't good in that game. They're good in this one, so why shouldn't he use them to their full abilities?
DevilNinja900 1 year ago
@DevilNinja900 Umehado can spam whatever training wheels character he wants.
It's just that it's nauseatingly boring and people should stop lauding him for it because it's nothing special.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious I'll be more inclined to believe you when you're a multi-time world champ in the game like he is. Fact of the matter remains that hadou-zoning is the best way to play Ryu in SF4. Why give yourself a handicap by taking away your best move? Be flashy for the sake of random internet comment posters and risk losing? Yeah, right
DevilNinja900 1 year ago
@DevilNinja900 No.
The "best way" to play SF, or any fight-game, is to NOT pick the top tier, near-broken characters & spam hard-to-circumvent, rote patterns
It's this attitude that makes gams like SF4 the bore fests they are - peeps play only to win, not to get better. They chose characters & use play styles - no matter how face-palm boring - that are most likely to win. Hence 25% of onliners being Ryus/Kens
At least MK9 looks to buck this trend with its diverse roster & fun-looking gameplay
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious Ryu comes in about 6th on this tier list, which is high, but not broken. Again, many characters have ways to get past the fireballs, so it sounds to me like you're trying to justify your own inability to breakthrough on Ryu's alleged brokenness. The reason you see a bunch of Ryu/Ken players is because they're so familiar, being series staples for the past 20 years. And MK9? Mortal Kombat hasn't been relevant to anything pertaining to competitive fighting games in like, 7 years
DevilNinja900 1 year ago
@Sablicious you've been horribly wrong for almost a year now
KingofKH 1 year ago
@Sablicious you're stupid. Please don't express your stupid opinions.
KingofKH 1 year ago
@KingofKH Naturally you wouldn't want to hear the realities of your precious.dumbed down 'Shoto fighter IV'.
Why would you want something you pump so much time into honing your scrubbery presented as the two-move spam fest it in actuality is?
PS: lol @ the recent usage/BP/win-loss data on Japanese SF4 players - Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Sagat and Gaygo's new cheese spammer Yun making up the top 5! xD
Have fun with your Gen Wii brawler - the SF series has been dead to hardcore players since SFIII.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious That's why your supposed to utilse all of your characters attributes and abilities to avoid them like other fireballs focus attacks and jumping. Some of the characters are over and underpowered but if you know that then simply pick the one's that aren't and if you can't avoid something simple like fireballs then that's simply your fault. Try practicing or watching videos like this one to conjour up some strategies against it.
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Rapthorne54 That's why sights are firmly fixed on MK9 and Silly Scrub Flailer Is V-ism is a distant memory.
Sorry - need more than cMK > Hado > cMK > Hado > cMK... SKR to sate my fight gaming appetite ^_-
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious oh so mortal kombat is scrub free hmm so freeze-upercut spear-upercut his not scrub tastic right? at least street fighter doesn't have charcter's with projectile's that immobilize their opponents completly for a free combo you should know by now that mortal kombat is and always be in street fighter's shadow.
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Rapthorne54 No. MK's been an utter turd gameplay-wise since day dot. However, its roster, narrative, design, presentaiton far surpass SF's.
Having said that, there are no more 'hardcore' fighting games any more--they died with coin-hungry arcades--only HARDCORE PLAYERS. As such, any game can be played in a hardcore fashion; from your generic shovelware FPS Halos to SF. This, however, does not make the GAME hardcore, only its followers.
All games are, at their core, casual now. Thank Nintendo.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Rapthorne54 [cont]
This is why MK2011 looks like it may be superior to SF & its rehashes - it actually looks FUN.
SF4 is not fun. Outside of the satisfaction derived from winning, there's little to enjoy in a game that promotes & rewards rote pattern spamming & limited character abuse.
SF4 is an entry-level fighting game made primarily to move units in this era of casual gaming, & it shows.
At least MK is TRYING to improve & give gamers what they want, not just stuff a pacifier in their faces.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious I doubt it. i mean street fighter always brings in new strategies and combos while staying true to the nature of the game. And it always comes up with something different to its style of gameplay in every series its come out in. mortal kombat's only done that maybe once or twice, besides have you even seen mortal kombat being registered as a competitive tournament level game? perhaps the new mk may be a better game but that remains to be seen, and until then [s]sf4 remains supreme.
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Rapthorne54 Yeah. "New combos and strategies" - cMK > Hado > SRK > Ulra and mash SRK reversals if in trouble.
Some strategies. ~_~
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious like mortal kombat is so much more advanced. mash out random combos pick sub-zero or scorpion because their's no way you can win without continuosly abusing those immobilizing projectiles to get a free combo. At least you have to work for your win in this game besides those tactics work on scrubs not pros. Your probably complaining cause it happens to you and you don't know what to do so you just rant about it instead of simply trying to get better am i right?
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Rapthorne54 Cancer upon scrub Gen Wii gamer trolls who spam comments on YouTube profiles then block who they spam so they don't get the same back.
Cancer in your mother's whore slut hole. If you meet me, the last image you see will be your tiny, throbbing rodent heart in my hand as I devour it. Pray this is the last correspondence you receive on pain of your worthless, waste-of-space life.
You've been warned.
Sablicious 1 year ago
@Sablicious oooohhhh death threats to anonomys users. like i'll ever see you let alone could you defeat me you pathetic troll if you fought me the last thing you'd ever see would be the flies buzzing over your rotting corpse but i digress its been fun playing with you but i've got better things to do then sit here and messege you all day about your dipshit trolling and lack of brain power that you obviously can't obtain.
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Sablicious Oh look, an little kid trying to act tough.
type87randomXD 5 months ago
@type87randomXD Video games.
Enjoy =)
Sablicious 5 months ago
@type87randomXD an little kid? oh yeeee
XxGonixXFAN 5 months ago
@Rapthorne54 If you ask me mortal kombat is much more boring then this but to each his own i guess....Besides its not going to be anything special im sure just the same old shit.
Rapthorne54 1 year ago
@Sablicious STAY SALTY
Plawzable 1 month ago
@Plawzable SHOVELWARE SHOVELWARE
Sablicious 1 month ago
@Sablicious NIGGA MERRY CHRISTMAS HERE'S SOME MORTON FOR YOUR ASS
Plawzable 1 month ago
@Sablicious Stay nooby!
wtfdudenotcool101 1 month ago
@wtfdudenotcool101 Stay casual ^_-
Sablicious 1 month ago
@Sablicious
Stay icecream
Skelros 1 month ago
@Skelros Stay Wii wand
Sablicious 1 month ago
@Sablicious
mh let me think about that one.. ok here i go
Stay excavated absorption terrace!
Skelros 1 month ago
@Skelros Stay Kinect'd
Sablicious 4 weeks ago
@Sablicious well, as u seen, with timing, a simple tatsu will avoid hadouken so it actually is easy, if you are skilled
ryuhayabusa2000 4 months ago
@Sablicious
go fuck yourself you fag.And i hope murdoc from gorillaz burn your little ass to hell where satan will lick you and your dick.Suck it whore go proststute on the streets with your fat tits Chill out you retarded little ass hat.You are a mean bastard with no friends^^
get a life go watch disney cartoons oh wait you might hate disney never mind my sweet big fat ignorant shit. the reason why you hate king of fighters and street fighter so much is because you suck at fighting games.
TheAngelmisa 1 year ago
This poor guy must get no pussy at all. He's just too good at this game to have a social life.
4G63FD 2 years ago
Worse. He's MARRIED!! : /
Sablicious 2 years ago
hee iss ???????
maaartadella 2 years ago
Well, he's called 'the beast' not 'the brain'... : /
Sablicious 2 years ago
haters
chilonewolf 2 years ago
daigo first round doesn't count.
akathetruthteller 2 years ago
daigo just KNOWS - -
scrubydan 2 years ago
yappari..psychic power does exist.
Hellbottom 2 years ago